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Why does everyone hate Millennials?  The Baby Boomers are to blame for at least 75% of this countries problems. And all they do is blame everyone else.

 
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PIK95 said:
Why does everyone hate Millennialspeech?  The Baby Boomers are to blame for at least 75% of this countries problems. And all they do is blame everyone else.
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Isn't it the American way for every generation to blame other generations for the country's woes?

 
Galileo said:
Which FBGers need to sign up for classes?
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In the last several years, there’s been growing alarm over the fact that many young people can no longer perform basic skills. In fact, one survey goes so far as to say that there are 20 basic skills – ranging from reading a map to baking bread – that are in danger of extinction in some of the developed parts of the world.
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In fairness, my wife is completely incapable of reading a map.  It's truly amazing how she just can't do this.

 
Galileo said:
Isn't it the American way for every generation to blame other generations for the country's woes?
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No.  Our grandparents were pretty decent, the X'rs are pretty solid, and Millennialshe will be alright.  Boomers blew everything up for self gratification imo. X's at least waited for the kids to leave the nest before they started divorcing and being selfish.

  Millennials have it really tough imo.  Some have the end of the boomers generation for parents which is a nightmare generally in this age.  Changes in technology and education are making them adjust by the minute.  They also have the curse of the smartphones, which holds them to a higher standard in their youth.  Everything is filmed and recorded.  It's a very confusing and incriminating time. Ishaming doesn't help. They do have much better pron.

I'm lucky to be an X'r. 

 
IvanKaramazov said:
In fairness, my wife is completely incapable of reading a map.  It's truly amazing how she just can't do this.
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I'm in the same boat.  My wife can't even use the map/navigation on her Iphone.  She insists on turning her phone around so that the "little arrow" is pointing in the same direction as her nose.  It's a big problem on road trips as she also insists on me looking at the road at all times while I drive.  We pull over a lot. 

 
IvanKaramazov said:
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In the last several years, there’s been growing alarm over the fact that many young people can no longer perform basic skills. In fact, one survey goes so far as to say that there are 20 basic skills – ranging from reading a map to baking bread – that are in danger of extinction in some of the developed parts of the world.
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I don't know these "basic skills":

  • Knitting (never)
  • Recall a friend or relative’s phone number from memory (not since the 90s)
  • Recall a partner’s phone number from memory (not since the 90s)
  • Identifying trees, insects and flowers (I can tell an evergreen from an oak I don't know specific types of cicadas - flowers?  I know roses, that's all)
  • Baking bread from scratch (never)
  • Wiring a plug (Otis-level technical skills here)
 
Arizona Ron said:
I don't know these "basic skills":

  • Knitting (never)
  • Recall a friend or relative’s phone number from memory (not since the 90s)
  • Recall a partner’s phone number from memory (not since the 90s)
  • Identifying trees, insects and flowers (I can tell an evergreen from an oak I don't know specific types of cicadas - flowers?  I know roses, that's all)
  • Baking bread from scratch (never)
  • Wiring a plug (Otis-level technical skills here)
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Where did you get this list?  I didn't see it in the article, but i don't think knitting is a 'basic skill'.  Sewing, i think would be.  recalling phone numbers, eh, not sure (although, i bet i could recall a few of my friends phones numbers from back then.  I can identify some trees, some insects and some flowers.  I think baking is an art, and not a basic skill, but if i had a recipe, i cold probably follow along enough to do it.  I hate electricity, but could probably do basic wiring, red to red, white to white, black to black(just make sure you shut off the power first)

 
Maybe millennials should just play along at this point and go with it for trolling and entertainment purposes...

- I M stupid how do I wipe my a**?

- Let me get this bread out of my toaster with this knife

- How do I practice safe sex to avoid imaginary children like Koya?

 
Stoneys said:
Where did you get this list?  I didn't see it in the article, but i don't think knitting is a 'basic skill'.  Sewing, i think would be.  recalling phone numbers, eh, not sure (although, i bet i could recall a few of my friends phones numbers from back then.  I can identify some trees, some insects and some flowers.  I think baking is an art, and not a basic skill, but if i had a recipe, i cold probably follow along enough to do it.  I hate electricity, but could probably do basic wiring, red to red, white to white, black to black(just make sure you shut off the power first)
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The article had a link to a list of 20 basic skills. TBH, I thought most of them were silly.

 
Seems strange to me that recalling a partner's phone number and recalling a friend's/relative's phone number are considered two distinct skills.

 
The skill list is rather silly...as is the whole notion of an "Adulting School" IMO.  If the skills on that list actually become extinct, it has more to do with the fact that the skill has become useless as other means have taken its place.  I certainly wouldn't equate this skill list with what it means to be an adult.

 
Arizona Ron said:
I don't know these "basic skills":

  • Knitting (never)
  • Recall a friend or relative’s phone number from memory (not since the 90s)
  • Recall a partner’s phone number from memory (not since the 90s)
  • Identifying trees, insects and flowers (I can tell an evergreen from an oak I don't know specific types of cicadas - flowers?  I know roses, that's all)
  • Baking bread from scratch (never)
  • Wiring a plug (Otis-level technical skills here)
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Good point.  I can't do a bunch of those things either.  

 
Godsbrother said:
PIK95 said:
Why does everyone hate Millennials?  The Baby Boomers are to blame for at least 75% of this countries problems. And all they do is blame everyone else.
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:rolleyes:
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He's right--if it wasn't for the Boomers having sex, there wouldn't be all these Millennials running around. We created the problem--we didn't even educate kids enough to know the difference between possessives and plurals.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
In fairness, my wife is completely incapable of reading a map.  It's truly amazing how she just can't do this.
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brun said:
The article had a link to a list of 20 basic skills. TBH, I thought most of them were silly.
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Agreed.  Some of these are important skills imo - map reading, spelling and grammar, understanding units of measurement.  But many are niche, might be nice to know but don't help a lot.   Darning socks?  Touch typing?  

Yesterday my 13yo son and I were talking about using an abacus. I don't remember why they were useful (I recall the basics) and that skill doesn't seem pertinent.  

 
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Arizona Ron said:
I don't know these "basic skills":

  • Knitting (never)
  • Recall a friend or relative’s phone number from memory (not since the 90s)
  • Recall a partner’s phone number from memory (not since the 90s)
  • Identifying trees, insects and flowers (I can tell an evergreen from an oak I don't know specific types of cicadas - flowers?  I know roses, that's all)
  • Baking bread from scratch (never)
  • Wiring a plug (Otis-level technical skills here)
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:lmao:  these are the "basic skills" they listed?  what the #### is wrong with old people.  life is changing, get over it.

 
apalmer said:
He's right--if it wasn't for the Boomers having sex, there wouldn't be all these Millennials running around. We created the problem--we didn't even educate kids enough to know the difference between possessives and plurals.
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Years ago my wife made a commitment to do her part to fix the problem.   :sadbanana:

 
Quite a few of the "basic skills" listed are obsolete.  Map/Compass have been replaced by GPS in almost all situations.  Looking something up in the index of a book is something that you don't have to do anymore for the most part.  Handwriting, recalling phone numbers, spelling.  Those have all been replaced.  Next we'll have an article bemoaning that we can't use abacuses or use a microfiche reader.

 
PIK95 said:
No.  Our grandparents were pretty decent, the X'rs are pretty solid, and Millennialshe will be alright.  Boomers blew everything up for self gratification imo. X's at least waited for the kids to leave the nest before they started divorcing and being selfish.

  Millennials have it really tough imo.  Some have the end of the boomers generation for parents which is a nightmare generally in this age.  Changes in technology and education are making them adjust by the minute.  They also have the curse of the smartphones, which holds them to a higher standard in their youth.  Everything is filmed and recorded.  It's a very confusing and incriminating time. Ishaming doesn't help. They do have much better pron.

I'm lucky to be an X'r. 
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Don't they embrace all those technological advances though? I don't know of any millenials (I work at a college) who embrace a movement that embraces luddism for the sake of their own privacy. 

 
Stoneys said:
Where did you get this list?  I didn't see it in the article, but i don't think knitting is a 'basic skill'.  Sewing, i think would be.  recalling phone numbers, eh, not sure (although, i bet i could recall a few of my friends phones numbers from back then.  I can identify some trees, some insects and some flowers.  I think baking is an art, and not a basic skill, but if i had a recipe, i cold probably follow along enough to do it.  I hate electricity, but could probably do basic wiring, red to red, white to white, black to black(just make sure you shut off the power first)
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Baking's more of a science than an art. 

 
  1. Reading a map - Can do it.
     
  2. Using a compass - Can do it.
     
  3. Tie a specific knot - are we talking tie knot or navy/boy scouts type stuff? I can do the former.
     
  4. Darn socks - Can do, would never though due to not being cost/time efficient.
     
  5. Looking something up in a book using an index rather than “Googling it” - Can do, but likely it's an efficiency thing here as well.
     
  6. Correct letter writing technique - Like how to FORMAT letters? What are we idiots?
     
  7. Understanding pounds and ounces - Again, I doubt anyone wouldn't know this unless they were true degenerates.
     
  8. Knowing your spelling and grammar - Can do it, see above. Although in most instant-messaging applications this has been abbreviated.
     
  9. Converting pounds and ounces to grams and kilograms - This is now a google thing, but I still know it.
     
  10. Starting a fire from scratch - Survivor style without flint? Or with flint? I can do the later.
     
  11. Handwriting - Um, what? No my handwriting is atrocious in both 'print' and cursive.
     
  12. Understanding feet and inches - This is a joke if you live in the US. Also the US is a joke to everyone using the metric system.
     
  13. Knitting - No? Why would I? This is a hobby.
     
  14. Recall a friend or relative’s phone number from memory - Yes. Although not necessary anymore.
     
  15. Recall a partner’s phone number from memory - See above.
     
  16. Identifying trees, insects and flowers - Um That's a pine tree/white birch level type stuff, or that's an Juniper or a Spruce from VT? Former, not the later.
     
  17. Touch typing - Again, i'm sure anyone who uses a physical keyboard knows this.
     
  18. Baking bread from scratch - Yep, my basic recipe is easy, 5 cups semolina flour, handful of salt, two tablespoons of olive oil, a packet of yeast and a tablespoon of sugar in warm water, then slowly add water until you get the desired consistency.
     
  19. Taking up trousers - Yes, again a time/efficiency thing though. Suit-pants necessary. Everything else... just buy the damned things to fit.
     
  20. Wiring a plug - I have a masters in EE, but an idiot can follow the package directions or watch a youtube video.
 
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8.  Knowing your spelling and grammar
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Do they really not know this, or are we simply seeing shortcuts in places where it's not so important (twitter, texts, etc.)?  I have to admit, the grammar/spelling I see in tweets burns my eyes.

 
Niles Standish said:
Quite a few of the "basic skills" listed are obsolete.  Map/Compass have been replaced by GPS in almost all situations.  Looking something up in the index of a book is something that you don't have to do anymore for the most part.  Handwriting, recalling phone numbers, spelling.  Those have all been replaced.  Next we'll have an article bemoaning that we can't use abacuses or use a microfiche reader.
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You think spelling is outdated?

 
In the last several years, there’s been growing alarm over the fact that many young people can no longer perform basic skills. In fact, one survey goes so far as to say that there are 20 basic skills – ranging from reading a map to baking bread – that are in danger of extinction in some of the developed parts of the world.
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Skills :lmao:

 
Holy ####, this list is stupid.

  1. Reading a map - Not necessary for most of society.  Those that need to know, do.
     
  2. Using a compass - Who can't use a compass but also, see #1.
     
  3. Tie a specific knot - See #1
     
  4. Darn socks - Not only not necessary but a complete waste
     
  5. Looking something up in a book using an index rather than “Googling it” - See #1
     
  6. Correct letter writing technique - Agreed
     
  7. Understanding pounds and ounces - Maybe 
     
  8. Knowing your spelling and grammar - Agreed
     
  9. Converting pounds and ounces to grams and kilograms - Maybe
     
  10. Starting a fire from scratch - See #1
     
  11. Handwriting - See #1
     
  12. Understanding feet and inches - Really?  I don't know anyone over the age of 10 that can't tell me how many inches are in a foot.
     
  13. Knitting - LOL
     
  14. Recall a friend or relative’s phone number from memory - See #1
     
  15. Recall a partner’s phone number from memory - See #1
     
  16. Identifying trees, insects and flowers - See #1
     
  17. Touch typing - Disagree - I think most people that use it every day can touch type.
     
  18. Baking bread from scratch - See #1
     
  19. Taking up trousers - See #1
     
  20. Wiring a plug - See #1
 
Galileo said:
The skill list is rather silly...as is the whole notion of an "Adulting School" IMO.  If the skills on that list actually become extinct, it has more to do with the fact that the skill has become useless as other means have taken its place.  I certainly wouldn't equate this skill list with what it means to be an adult.
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Yeah it's like saying churning butter is a lost skill. No #### that's what the grocery store is for.

I didn't look at the list but driving stick shift seems to be a dying skill...even my wife  doesn't know how to do that and I am 99.9% sure my kids never will. Again probably no need to in this day and age but find it interesting given I drove stick the first 12 years I drove.

 
Mookie said:
I'm in the same boat.  My wife can't even use the map/navigation on her Iphone.  She insists on turning her phone around so that the "little arrow" is pointing in the same direction as her nose.  It's a big problem on road trips as she also insists on me looking at the road at all times while I drive.  We pull over a lot. 
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There is a reason my wife drives and I navigate.  

The time that we just got to Dublin and I drove (right side driver, left side of the road, stick shift, etc.) out of the city may have been the worst hour of my marriage (20 years on).  If there was live camera coverage of that I'd be a youtube star. 

 
Kanil said:
Holy ####, this list is stupid.

  1. Converting pounds and ounces to grams and kilograms - Maybe
  2. Understanding feet and inches - Really?  I don't know anyone over the age of 10 that can't tell me how many inches are in a foot.
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This is a British list.  Those 2 are basically old folk that grew up on the old system complaining that the kids who grew up on metric don't understand the old system.  It's the equivalent of an old person in the US wondering why kids today don't know how to write cursive.

 
i'll be honest, i didn't even know what darning socks meant.  i still don't know, i'm not going to google it.  do not try to explain it to me, i won't read your post.

 
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