Should Schools Ban Cell Phones in the Classroom? (1 Viewer)

[msudaisy26]

If we had the money, we'd put our kids in private school. Not that that solves all problems, but it gets you smaller class sizes, and generally an atmosphere of more buy-in.

I write this not trying to integrate politics into the conversation, but what's transpiring in this thread is why 'choice' has legs. It's not right that cost is a barrier to a quality education and the best public schools are also generally in wealthy communities.

Unfortunately that is the way of life, not just in schools.

 

[Manster]

If you don't want your kid to be on their phone during school, the solution is simple. Don't let them have their phone during school.

CAPISCE?

Stop expecting teachers to parent for you. You do it. Biggest bunch of entitled whiners.

Do you have kids in school right now?

This isn't about me not allowing my kid to not have her phone. It's about the kids who are running wild, and using their phones to cyber bully, etc......

Well my kid doesn’t do that, so the state shouldn’t be overstepping into the school district to unnecessarily restrict them. The district already has rules about this.

Again, anyone can feel free to not let their kid have their phone at school. What makes anyone think they should have authority over what every kid in the state does? “I don’t like a thing, so there should be a law against it!” How about no. You do you, stop thinking you can force, by law, everyone to do what you want.

Well,hopefully ur kid hasn't had to endure the same ******** mine has with the cyber bullying

Why are you so adamant about allowing cell phones in schools anyway? The LAST thing my kid wants is to not have her cell phone at school.......just like EVERY other kid. They are kids. They don't know what's good for them. Their brains are not fully developed. At some point, the adults have to step in and take charge. Schools should not be a place for kids to have a bunch of freedom. They should be there to learn. And since we've decided the bad kids can't be kicked out anymore.....or really even disciplined, why should they have access to something that they will inevitably use to cyber bully?

 

[Manster]

If you don't want your kid to be on their phone during school, the solution is simple. Don't let them have their phone during school.

CAPISCE?

Stop expecting teachers to parent for you. You do it. Biggest bunch of entitled whiners.

Do you have kids in school right now?

This isn't about me not allowing my kid to not have her phone. It's about the kids who are running wild, and using their phones to cyber bully, etc......

It's also looking at it from a societal aspect. Since Covid learning and test scores have declined substantially. Students lost a year of learning, and we have to figure out how to rebound from that. If phones in the classroom are compounding learning issues, we owe it to the kids to examine the situation.

My kid has excellent grades. Get your kid a tutor, or don’t. “We” certainly don’t have to “figure out” anything about my kid’s grades, so you can stop trying.

Whats your problem? Sounds like you have it all figured out, yet you want to come in here and spit venom.

 

[fantasy stud]

I'm a middle school teacher and our school rule is real simple at my school. They aren't aloud to use them and they shouldn't be visible. It's very cut and dry and we have few issues.

Im not saying you don't have few issues, but issues we've dealt with, the teacher had zero idea there was an issue. Bad kids can be pretty good at getting away with **** right under a teachers nose, especially if class size is large.

Of course there will always be a few who are sneaky.

 

[Joe Bryant]

If you don't want your kid to be on their phone during school, the solution is simple. Don't let them have their phone during school.

CAPISCE?

Stop expecting teachers to parent for you. You do it. Biggest bunch of entitled whiners.

Do you have kids in school right now?

This isn't about me not allowing my kid to not have her phone. It's about the kids who are running wild, and using their phones to cyber bully, etc......

It's also looking at it from a societal aspect. Since Covid learning and test scores have declined substantially. Students lost a year of learning, and we have to figure out how to rebound from that. If phones in the classroom are compounding learning issues, we owe it to the kids to examine the situation.

My kid has excellent grades. Get your kid a tutor, or don’t. “We” certainly don’t have to “figure out” anything about my kid’s grades, so you can stop trying.

This can be a good and useful discussion. Maybe we're reading your posts wrong but it sounds a lot more combative than I think is helpful.

We're all trying to figure this out and discuss together.

 

[MAC_32]

This can be a good and useful discussion. Maybe we're reading your posts wrong but it sounds a lot more combative than I think is helpful.

We're all trying to figure this out and discuss together.

While I agree, the argument behind Grace's stance has led to fleeting thoughts floating through my head. I just haven't written them because I'm wary there isn't a way to discuss without getting political. Cell phone bans in classrooms is a no-brainer to me and just about anyone I know in education - removing them from the classroom enhances the learning experience and there is no defending the counter. That said, that dynamic is due to our reality driven by leave no child behind, the 14th amendment, a general environment in which parents don't hold their kids accountable, and admin are more willing to bend towards them than defend their teachers.

Change the laws and better support our teachers, then we can have a real debate on what to do about cell phones. I can see the argument for allowing the privilege as long as certain standards are met, dictated locally, but in our current world in which there are no consequences for bad behavior (some hyperbole) there's no conversation to be had.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

politics....hmmmmm....lot of things aren't allowed in a classroom/educational environment.....guns, knives, porn, pot, cigs, pet snakes, gameboys, certain colors of clothes, snacks, ordering pizza delivery (sorry Spicoli)/ whatever....heck your not supposed to use profanity or certain non PC words that are allowed in other environments.....because they have negative impact on the educational environment.....why can't cell phones just be one of those things....what positive does the educational environment gain from cell phones that outweighs the negative distraction....why aren't we up in arms about not being able to order pizza to class...they need to eat right...?..who cares if it's a distraction....they gotta eat and can't force me to eat cafeteria food.....obviously some of the things I mentioned are illegal for "minors" anyway....but the point is the same....we have put cell phones and the perceived "need" of instant access on this pedestal....(I get people will always fall back on the school shooting stuff).....but schools have become more diligent in their safety around that area....probably not perfect....but still...how did we ever live without these little devices when were drinking out of a hose...and riding bikes without helmets...heck, one could argue cell phones and instant access and social media and cyber bullying, etc....contribute to the one major thing we feel our kids need these bad boys for...

 

[Joe Bryant]

This can be a good and useful discussion. Maybe we're reading your posts wrong but it sounds a lot more combative than I think is helpful.

We're all trying to figure this out and discuss together.

While I agree, the argument behind Grace's stance has led to fleeting thoughts floating through my head. I just haven't written them because I'm wary there isn't a way to discuss without getting political. Cell phone bans in classrooms is a no-brainer to me and just about anyone I know in education - removing them from the classroom enhances the learning experience and there is no defending the counter. That said, that dynamic is due to our reality driven by leave no child behind, the 14th amendment, a general environment in which parents don't hold their kids accountable, and admin are more willing to bend towards them than defend their teachers.

Change the laws and better support our teachers, then we can have a real debate on what to do about cell phones. I can see the argument for allowing the privilege as long as certain standards are met, dictated locally, but in our current world in which there are no consequences for bad behavior (some hyperbole) there's no conversation to be had.

Thanks. It for sure could get political but I think we can discuss this without having to go there.

I think you're right in most people see removing them in the class room as the obvious solution. I know I do.