AFCC Game Thread: Patriots/Broncos - The Final Showdown (1 Viewer)

[Sabertooth]

Gotta be Elways kid standing behind Davis.

 

[[scooter]]

I didn't know the Broncos were owned by The Joker.

 

[rascal]

She is hideous

 

[Gachi]

So Peyton has taken 2 different teams to the super bowl twice, am I right?

Has a QB ever done that?

 

[Tanner9919]

Game not really even close despite score.pats havent won a postseason road game since 2006 , 10 years running.



When Brady leads your team in rushing you will not win. Pats once again show their soft side..

And I counted at least 7 intentional grounding plays by Brady am I right?

You cant throw the ball in the ground just because you're about to be sacked.

Pats got punked once again. This just in..Brady NOT the best postseason QB of all time.

 

[Higgs]

This will be a day not long forgotten in Vegas lore. Sharps made a KILLING.

Yep heard 5x as much action came in on the Pats this weekend.

True. 80/20 split and the line NEVER MOVED. Folks, if you ever see this happen again (and you probably won't) bet the farm on the other team.

ESPN had an article saying as of Saturday the total money coming in was pretty balanced. MGM guy saying it was within 10k between the teams.

that's cuz the sharps saw what was going on and all went big on Denver late. It was 80/20 yesterday, which is when I broke into my son's piggy bank.

 

[Anarchy99]

As far as BB not kicking FGs, it looks bad now but it could just have easily backfired. If DEN had gotten one more first down in either of two possessions, the game would have been over and people would have wondered how you kick a FG when you need a TD to tie.

 

[Anarchy99]

Game not really even close despite score.pats havent won a postseason road game since 2006 , 10 years running.



When Brady leads your team in rushing you will not win. Pats once again show their soft side..

And I counted at least 7 intentional grounding plays by Brady am I right?

You cant throw the ball in the ground just because you're about to be sacked.

Pats got punked once again. This just in..Brady NOT the best postseason QB of all time.

It's tough to win on the road when almost all your playoff games are at home.

 

[Pipes]

As far as BB not kicking FGs, it looks bad now but it could just have easily backfired. If DEN had gotten one more first down in either of two possessions, the game would have been over and people would have wondered how you kick a FG when you need a TD to tie.

This. I was fully expecting Brady and the Pats to convert on 4th down every time they tried.

 

[bostonfred]

This just in..Brady NOT the best postseason QB of all time.

Four losses in conference championship games, he's the worst!

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Yea baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

 

[georg013]

Thanks for the warm up New England. Now get out of our stadium. The revenge tour stops here.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Thank you Jim Nantz for having the class not asking Peyton about retirement there. He'll be asked enough about it soon.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

As far as BB not kicking FGs, it looks bad now but it could just have easily backfired. If DEN had gotten one more first down in either of two possessions, the game would have been over and people would have wondered how you kick a FG when you need a TD to tie.

I thought BB definitely made the right decision the first time. The second one was closer IMO. Denver manages their offense differently if you kick the FG in either spot, so the game doesn't necessarily play out the same way.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Thanks for the warm up New England. Now get out of our stadium. The revenge tour stops here.

 

[dparker713]

In all my years of watching football, not kicking a FG either time was one of the greatest mistakes I have seen by a head coach and made by one of the greatest coaches of all time. Just goes to show you that nobody is perfect. What a great game to watch. It would be nice to see Manning end on a high note.

Completely moronic but won't get called on it cause he's BB.

It's not moronic. It's aggressive.

There was obviously plenty of time to take the FG then get the ball back and score. Game over.

The O line was getting beaten pretty much every play. New England was fortunate to be able to move the ball at all. It took some insane plays. Getting the ball back and scoring was hardly a given.

 

[georg013]

Game not really even close despite score.pats havent won a postseason road game since 2006 , 10 years running.



When Brady leads your team in rushing you will not win. Pats once again show their soft side..

And I counted at least 7 intentional grounding plays by Brady am I right?

You cant throw the ball in the ground just because you're about to be sacked.

Pats got punked once again. This just in..Brady NOT the best postseason QB of all time.

I did notice the intentional grounding. Every time he was under pressure. It was ridiculous.

 

[[scooter]]

So Peyton has taken 2 different teams to the super bowl twice, am I right?

Has a QB ever done that?

Earl Morrall went to the Super Bowl twice with the Colts and twice with the Dolphins, but he was a backup two of those years.

 

[Hoss Style]

I'm not sure what the Pats fans were saying earlier in this thread, because I'm hammered and didn't read it all, but I remember during the season most of them said Denver couldn't win if:

A) The Pats had their WRs healthy (specifically Edleman) - check

B) Gronk played a full game: check

C) Osweiler didn't play, since most said Peyton not playing was actually an upgrade: check

D) Denver's defense couldn't stop the Pat's passing game: check

I'm glad everyone was healthy, and it was a great game. I hope there are no excuses, since when the Pats beat Denver in the past there were none, either. Denver is a better team this year.

 

[Johnnymac]

Game not really even close despite score.pats havent won a postseason road game since 2006 , 10 years running.



When Brady leads your team in rushing you will not win. Pats once again show their soft side..

And I counted at least 7 intentional grounding plays by Brady am I right?

You cant throw the ball in the ground just because you're about to be sacked.

Pats got punked once again. This just in..Brady NOT the best postseason QB of all time.

I did notice the intentional grounding. Every time he was under pressure. It was ridiculous.

It's not grounding if there is a receiver in the area. Just because the ball goes into the ground does not mean it's grounding.

 

[Morton Muffley]

As far as BB not kicking FGs, it looks bad now but it could just have easily backfired. If DEN had gotten one more first down in either of two possessions, the game would have been over and people would have wondered how you kick a FG when you need a TD to tie.

I thought BB definitely made the right decision the first time. The second one was closer IMO. Denver manages their offense differently if you kick the FG in either spot, so the game doesn't necessarily play out the same way.

I disagree. Denver manages their offense the EXACT same way if you kick the second FG to make it 20-15 with 2:30 left and NE with all three TOs. I typically like BB's aggressiveness and had absolutely no problem with BB's 4th and 2 call in 2006 but I just thought NE's best chance to win today was to do so in regulation and for that they required a FG

Either way. Congrats Broncos fans...manning made the plays early and the defense made them early AND late

 

[JIslander]

I'm not sure what the Pats fans were saying earlier in this thread, because I'm hammered and didn't read it all, but I remember during the season most of them said Denver couldn't win if:

A) The Pats had their WRs healthy (specifically Edleman) - check

B) Gronk played a full game: check

C) Osweiler didn't play, since most said Peyton not playing was actually an upgrade: check

D) Denver's defense couldn't stop the Pat's passing game: check

I'm glad everyone was healthy, and it was a great game. I hope there are no excuses, since when the Pats beat Denver in the past there were none, either. Denver is a better team this year.

Not to mention, I'd say key calls went NE way --

 

[Deamon]

Thankfully I don't have to root against a team in the super bowl this year with the pats eliminated

Isn't it more fun when you're rooting hard for a team in the superbowl?

 

[Arodin]

Thankfully I don't have to root against a team in the super bowl this year with the pats eliminated

Isn't it more fun when you're rooting hard for a team in the superbowl?

You can still root for your squares' numbers or your postseason fantasy players!

 

[Pots]

As far as BB not kicking FGs, it looks bad now but it could just have easily backfired. If DEN had gotten one more first down in either of two possessions, the game would have been over and people would have wondered how you kick a FG when you need a TD to tie.

Correct. The main reason the Broncos were so conservative on their subsequent possession was because they didn't go for the FG. If they did, it wouldn't have been as easy a 3 and out. You can say going for it on 4th gave them the next possession with much more time on the clock, which they would have needed anyway with the FG.

 

[Deamon]

This will be a day not long forgotten in Vegas lore. Sharps made a KILLING.

Yep heard 5x as much action came in on the Pats this weekend.

Vegas: Making billions off delusional homers since day 1.

delusional to think the pats win todays game by more then 3? Most neutral fans were surprised the line opened so low. To call someone who thought NE would win this game "delusional" is idiotic.

 

[GoBirds]

In all my years of watching football, not kicking a FG either time was one of the greatest mistakes I have seen by a head coach and made by one of the greatest coaches of all time. Just goes to show you that nobody is perfect. What a great game to watch. It would be nice to see Manning end on a high note.

Completely moronic but won't get called on it cause he's BB.

It's not moronic. It's aggressive.

There was obviously plenty of time to take the FG then get the ball back and score. Game over.

The O line was getting beaten pretty much every play. New England was fortunate to be able to move the ball at all. It took some insane plays. Getting the ball back and scoring was hardly a given.

Would have worked out alot better that the arrogant BB always go for it.

 

[dparker713]

Thankfully I don't have to root against a team in the super bowl this year with the pats eliminated

Isn't it more fun when you're rooting hard for a team in the superbowl?

You can still root for your squares' numbers or your postseason fantasy players!

Rooting against a team isn't the same as rooting for the other team. It's less enjoyable.

 

[Ghost Rider]

What a game. Both teams did a lot right and a lot wrong; it was like a prize fight. That is what championship football games should always be like. Mad props to Brady, Belichick, Manning, Kubiak and especially that Broncos D. Fantastic!

 

[pats3in4]

Broncos did an outstanding job on D. Well earned win. Good luck in SB50.

 

[Hoss Style]

As far as BB not kicking FGs, it looks bad now but it could just have easily backfired. If DEN had gotten one more first down in either of two possessions, the game would have been over and people would have wondered how you kick a FG when you need a TD to tie.

I thought BB definitely made the right decision the first time. The second one was closer IMO. Denver manages their offense differently if you kick the FG in either spot, so the game doesn't necessarily play out the same way.

I disagree. Denver manages their offense the EXACT same way if you kick the second FG to make it 20-15 with 2:30 left and NE with all three TOs. I typically like BB's aggressiveness and had absolutely no problem with BB's 4th and 2 call in 2006 but I just thought NE's best chance to win today was to do so in regulation and for that they required a FG

Either way. Congrats Broncos fans...manning made the plays early and the defense made them early AND late

Everyone is talking about BB and the FG, but I think the biggest eye opener from me is that he refused to help his tackles the entire game. He was so sure that his passing attack could beat Denver's D, and he was wrong. Brady paid for it, big time. I've watched Denver all year, and the Pats might be the only team that didn't help consistently when the QB was getting tenderized.

 

[dparker713]

This will be a day not long forgotten in Vegas lore. Sharps made a KILLING.

Yep heard 5x as much action came in on the Pats this weekend.

Vegas: Making billions off delusional homers since day 1.

delusional to think the pats win todays game by more then 3? Most neutral fans were surprised the line opened so low. To call someone who thought NE would win this game "delusional" is idiotic.

Low? The line favored the pats by 6.5 over the number one seed in the conference when you back out home field. somehow people convinced themselves the pats were a monster after looking merely ok against the Chiefs.

 

[JIslander]

Broncos did an outstanding job on D. Well earned win. Good luck in SB50.

 

[Deamon]

Thankfully I don't have to root against a team in the super bowl this year with the pats eliminated

Isn't it more fun when you're rooting hard for a team in the superbowl?

You can still root for your squares' numbers or your postseason fantasy players!

Rooting against a team isn't the same as rooting for the other team. It's less enjoyable.

I dont understand what you said.

But assuming you're neutral on the other three teams, it would be quite exciting to cheer hard for carolina or arizona rather then just not care who wins

 

[dparker713]

Broncos did an outstanding job on D. Well earned win. Good luck in SB50.

That should be SB L

 

[ShamrockPride]

I just wanna know where Devouredbychaos is at. Time for his profile to go silent until next season, right? Literally the AFC ITS.

 

[Deamon]

This will be a day not long forgotten in Vegas lore. Sharps made a KILLING.

Yep heard 5x as much action came in on the Pats this weekend.

Vegas: Making billions off delusional homers since day 1.

delusional to think the pats win todays game by more then 3? Most neutral fans were surprised the line opened so low. To call someone who thought NE would win this game "delusional" is idiotic.

Low? The line favored the pats by 6.5 over the number one seed in the conference when you back out home field. somehow people convinced themselves the pats were a monster after looking merely ok against the Chiefs.

You are clearly incapable of being impartial as you hate the Patriots.

You don't "take out home field" and adjust the line. The line was 3.5, and it was not delusional in the slightest bit to think the pats would win by more then 3.5. That's pure hyperbole or trolling. I have lots of Denver fan friends who were surprised at the low 2.5 opening spread and thought it should be around 4 or 5.

 

[Flash]

As happy as I am for Manning, tomorrow's line is going to be Denver + 6.5 or something like that, right?

Opened vs either Az or Car as 2 pt dogs

 

[Deamon]

Gonna hurt TB's legacy --3 picks -

Yeah this game is what everyone will remember. Lol.

Wasn't it only 2? XP one doesn't count.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

What a game. Both teams did a lot right and a lot wrong; it was like a prize fight. That is what championship football games should always be like. Mad props to Brady, Belichick, Manning, Kubiak and especially that Broncos D. Fantastic!

 

[dschuler]

As far as BB not kicking FGs, it looks bad now but it could just have easily backfired. If DEN had gotten one more first down in either of two possessions, the game would have been over and people would have wondered how you kick a FG when you need a TD to tie.

I thought BB definitely made the right decision the first time. The second one was closer IMO. Denver manages their offense differently if you kick the FG in either spot, so the game doesn't necessarily play out the same way.

I disagree. Denver manages their offense the EXACT same way if you kick the second FG to make it 20-15 with 2:30 left and NE with all three TOs. I typically like BB's aggressiveness and had absolutely no problem with BB's 4th and 2 call in 2006 but I just thought NE's best chance to win today was to do so in regulation and for that they required a FGEither way. Congrats Broncos fans...manning made the plays early and the defense made them early AND late

Exactly. And the way the game played out, they would have never needed a TD. Overly agressivenss on an offense that wasn't able to move the ball after the D made second half adjustments

 

[duaneok66]

As far as BB not kicking FGs, it looks bad now but it could just have easily backfired. If DEN had gotten one more first down in either of two possessions, the game would have been over and people would have wondered how you kick a FG when you need a TD to tie.

I thought BB definitely made the right decision the first time. The second one was closer IMO. Denver manages their offense differently if you kick the FG in either spot, so the game doesn't necessarily play out the same way.

I disagree. Denver manages their offense the EXACT same way if you kick the second FG to make it 20-15 with 2:30 left and NE with all three TOs. I typically like BB's aggressiveness and had absolutely no problem with BB's 4th and 2 call in 2006 but I just thought NE's best chance to win today was to do so in regulation and for that they required a FG

Either way. Congrats Broncos fans...manning made the plays early and the defense made them early AND late

Everyone is talking about BB and the FG, but I think the biggest eye opener from me is that he refused to help his tackles the entire game. He was so sure that his passing attack could beat Denver's D, and he was wrong. Brady paid for it, big time. I've watched Denver all year, and the Pats might be the only team that didn't help consistently when the QB was getting tenderized.

great post.

 

[Deamon]

As happy as I am for Manning, tomorrow's line is going to be Denver + 6.5 or something like that, right?

Opened vs either Az or Car as 2 pt dogs

No way is it 6.5. Probably will be 2.5 or 3 at kickoff.

 

[humpback]

As far as BB not kicking FGs, it looks bad now but it could just have easily backfired. If DEN had gotten one more first down in either of two possessions, the game would have been over and people would have wondered how you kick a FG when you need a TD to tie.

I thought BB definitely made the right decision the first time. The second one was closer IMO. Denver manages their offense differently if you kick the FG in either spot, so the game doesn't necessarily play out the same way.

I disagree. Denver manages their offense the EXACT same way if you kick the second FG to make it 20-15 with 2:30 left and NE with all three TOs. I typically like BB's aggressiveness and had absolutely no problem with BB's 4th and 2 call in 2006 but I just thought NE's best chance to win today was to do so in regulation and for that they required a FGEither way. Congrats Broncos fans...manning made the plays early and the defense made them early AND late

No way to know that- there's a huge difference between being up 5 vs. 8.

 

[dparker713]

This will be a day not long forgotten in Vegas lore. Sharps made a KILLING.

Yep heard 5x as much action came in on the Pats this weekend.

Vegas: Making billions off delusional homers since day 1.

delusional to think the pats win todays game by more then 3? Most neutral fans were surprised the line opened so low. To call someone who thought NE would win this game "delusional" is idiotic.

Low? The line favored the pats by 6.5 over the number one seed in the conference when you back out home field. somehow people convinced themselves the pats were a monster after looking merely ok against the Chiefs.

You are clearly incapable of being impartial as you hate the Patriots. You don't "take out home field" and adjust the line. The line was 3.5, and it was not delusional in the slightest bit to think the pats would win by more then 3.5. That's pure hyperbole or trolling. I have lots of Denver fan friends who were surprised at the low 2.5 opening spread and thought it should be around 4 or 5.

it was delusional to think the pats should have been favored by that much. And that has next to nothing to do with thinking the pats could win by more than a field goal. Lines are about probabilities, not possibilities.

 

[sho nuff]

Game not really even close despite score.pats havent won a postseason road game since 2006 , 10 years running.



When Brady leads your team in rushing you will not win. Pats once again show their soft side..

And I counted at least 7 intentional grounding plays by Brady am I right?

You cant throw the ball in the ground just because you're about to be sacked.

Pats got punked once again. This just in..Brady NOT the best postseason QB of all time.

I did notice the intentional grounding. Every time he was under pressure. It was ridiculous.

I noticed he gets rid of it...but NNE were grounding.

I also noticed you were quiet until now when you run your mouth.

 

[sho nuff]

I just wanna know where Devouredbychaos is at. Time for his profile to go silent until next season, right? Literally the AFC ITS.

He logged in as georg so he could be on the winning side?

 

[Deamon]

This will be a day not long forgotten in Vegas lore. Sharps made a KILLING.

Yep heard 5x as much action came in on the Pats this weekend.

Vegas: Making billions off delusional homers since day 1.

delusional to think the pats win todays game by more then 3? Most neutral fans were surprised the line opened so low. To call someone who thought NE would win this game "delusional" is idiotic.

Low? The line favored the pats by 6.5 over the number one seed in the conference when you back out home field. somehow people convinced themselves the pats were a monster after looking merely ok against the Chiefs.

You are clearly incapable of being impartial as you hate the Patriots. You don't "take out home field" and adjust the line. The line was 3.5, and it was not delusional in the slightest bit to think the pats would win by more then 3.5. That's pure hyperbole or trolling. I have lots of Denver fan friends who were surprised at the low 2.5 opening spread and thought it should be around 4 or 5.

it was delusional to think the pats should have been favored by that much. And that has next to nothing to do with thinking the pats could win by more than a field goal. Lines are about probabilities, not possibilities.

The Pats SHOULD have been favored by 3.5, if not more. Hindsight is pretty easy hey? The line was good if not too low. You're delusional to think otherwise.

 

[Anarchy99]

I thought Denver had a much better offensive game plan to start the game even if the running game didn't work. NE did a great job adjusting their defense for the second half. The Pats never really changed their blocking scheme and that killed them. Hats off to Denver they played tough all game.

 

[Higgs]

This will be a day not long forgotten in Vegas lore. Sharps made a KILLING.

Yep heard 5x as much action came in on the Pats this weekend.

Vegas: Making billions off delusional homers since day 1.

delusional to think the pats win todays game by more then 3? Most neutral fans were surprised the line opened so low. To call someone who thought NE would win this game "delusional" is idiotic.

Low? The line favored the pats by 6.5 over the number one seed in the conference when you back out home field. somehow people convinced themselves the pats were a monster after looking merely ok against the Chiefs.

You are clearly incapable of being impartial as you hate the Patriots. You don't "take out home field" and adjust the line. The line was 3.5, and it was not delusional in the slightest bit to think the pats would win by more then 3.5. That's pure hyperbole or trolling. I have lots of Denver fan friends who were surprised at the low 2.5 opening spread and thought it should be around 4 or 5.

it was delusional to think the pats should have been favored by that much. And that has next to nothing to do with thinking the pats could win by more than a field goal. Lines are about probabilities, not possibilities.

The Pats SHOULD have been favored by 3.5, if not more. Hindsight is pretty easy hey? The line was good if not too low. You're delusional to think otherwise.

$1,000 says you're wrong.