After what 1st round running back goes off the board to the wr's b (1 Viewer)

[jaylasoul14]

Historically rb's dominate the first round but this year moss, owens, and wayne seem like surer bets than second tier of 1st round rb's

After the top rb's are gone ( LT, AP, Westy, Addai, jackson, gore) I feel the next best picks are the top wr's. Especially in ppr or .5 ppr. how could anyone take barber, portis, lj, or lynch over a proven wr stud. Does portis's 70 and 1td games really help you win a given week, when any of the wr's named can blow up for 30 or 40 fantasy points?

me persoanlly once gore and jackson go im going wr or brady in the first round. You need a stud at a position to really be a difference maker.

 

[Joe Paterno]

Moss is a sure thing? Since when?

 

[thejag]

Since when is anyone a sure thing?

C'mon, it's fantasy football.

 

[jaybebo]

Not a fan of taking a WR or QB in the first round, unless the league starting lineup and scoring a very favorable to it.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

to me after these guys I'll gladly grab TO or RMoss or even Wayne

LT

ADP

Sjax

Westy

Addai

Gore

portis

MB3

about pick 8 IMO

 

[jaylasoul14]

Obviously nothing is a sure thing, but moss, owens and wayne are safer bets to have monster seasons that any second tire 1st round rb including portis and barber. portis and barber are not studs at their postions, moss, owens , and wayne are. No way in hell i ever take clinton portis over a game changer like moss or owens. 70 yards a week and occational tds do not win u weeks, 10 catches for 150 and 2 tds does.

 

[jurb26]

Obviously nothing is a sure thing, but moss, owens and wayne are safer bets to have monster seasons that any second tire 1st round rb including portis and barber. portis and barber are not studs at their postions, moss, owens , and wayne are. No way in hell i ever take clinton portis over a game changer like moss or owens. 70 yards a week and occational tds do not win u weeks, 10 catches for 150 and 2 tds does.

Portis has finished no worse than RB11 when playing at least 13 games. He has finished in the top 6 4 out of 6 years.

 

[jaylasoul14]

portis final year numbers are always very good, he'll grind out those 12-15 points a week. that doesn't help u win. u win when a guy on your team scores 25 or more. the top wr's do that with much more frequency than second tier rb such as portis.

 

[switz]

portis final year numbers are always very good, he'll grind out those 12-15 points a week. that doesn't help u win. u win when a guy on your team scores 25 or more. the top wr's do that with much more frequency than second tier rb such as portis.

So wrong, so wrong...

 

[Joe Paterno]

portis final year numbers are always very good, he'll grind out those 12-15 points a week. that doesn't help u win.

Yes, it does.

 

[jurb26]

portis final year numbers are always very good, he'll grind out those 12-15 points a week. that doesn't help u win. u win when a guy on your team scores 25 or more. the top wr's do that with much more frequency than second tier rb such as portis.

OK, so you just hate Portis. Moving on......

 

[fruity pebbles]

portis final year numbers are always very good, he'll grind out those 12-15 points a week. that doesn't help u win. u win when a guy on your team scores 25 or more. the top wr's do that with much more frequency than second tier rb such as portis.

they'll also play a good hand in you losing when they get 1 catch for 4 yards.

 

[BigRed]

Historically rb's dominate the first round but this year moss, owens, and wayne seem like surer bets than second tier of 1st round rb'sAfter the top rb's are gone ( LT, AP, Westy, Addai, jackson, gore) I feel the next best picks are the top wr's. Especially in ppr or .5 ppr. how could anyone take barber, portis, lj, or lynch over a proven wr stud. Does portis's 70 and 1td games really help you win a given week, when any of the wr's named can blow up for 30 or 40 fantasy points?

Yes to the Portis question, for starters. And good luck finding WRs that blow up for 30 or 40 fantasy points.

me persoanlly once gore and jackson go im going wr or brady in the first round. You need a stud at a position to really be a difference maker.

You only need to score more pts than the other teams. That could be with a "stud" or with a solid corps of so-called "2d tier" guys.In your case, you also need typing lessons.

 

[jaylasoul14]

agree to disagree then......i should have mentioned all my leagues are start 3 wr's. to win i feel you need to have difference makers who can score 30 points easily and no rb outside the elites do that very often. i have moss, owens, and wayne before portis, lynch types

 

[jurb26]

i have moss, owens, and wayne before portis, lynch types

The problem is that Portis shouldn't be grouped with "Lynch types." To each their own. You don't like Portis.

 

[Mordraken]

portis final year numbers are always very good, he'll grind out those 12-15 points a week. that doesn't help u win. u win when a guy on your team scores 25 or more. the top wr's do that with much more frequency than second tier rb such as portis.

So wrong, so wrong...

I think "Wrong" = " the top wr's do that with much more frequency than second tier rb such as portis."But the "Right" = "u win when a guy on your team scores 25 or more. "I am a big proponent of having a solid group of players who will give you a baseline and then a couple of home-run threats who will crush the average of players at their position. Outside of the top 4-5 picks (LT, ADP, Jackson, West), those are mostly WRs and QBs (TO, Brady, Manning, Wayne, Moss) - people who can score 3-4X what ath eaverage starting WR or QB does.I think there was an article on FBG a couple of years back that answered the question "do you want players with a high or low Standard Deviation on your team". The answer was yes.... If you have 2 players that average 10 fantasy points, and one has a standard deviation of 3 and the other has a SD of 7, the SD=7 guy would generate more winnign weeks.For players on the back half of a snake-draft, going with a combo of TO & Moss or Brady & TO and picking up a pair of RBs in the 3rd/4th round may pay higher dividens than picking up a pair of 2nd tier RBs and 2nd-3rd tier WRs/QBs. I think that's what he was trying to say...

 

[Joe Paterno]

agree to disagree then......

No.

 

[Mr. Soup Nazi]

Since when is anyone a sure thing?C'mon, it's fantasy football.

Rumor has it, Braylon Edwards is a lock to start for the Browns this season.

 

[jaylasoul14]

Thanks Mordraken, u just summed it up perfectly. u can get a 4th round rb who might score 4 points less than a portis or lynch on any given week, but most likely your wr1 and qb will have destroyed the opponent at that spot by double. If you draft and the end of a snake draft this is clearly the way to go. I would love to see an argument against this

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

to me after these guys I'll gladly grab TO or RMoss or even WayneLTADPSjaxWestyAddaiGoreportisMB3about pick 8 IMO

I think I'll have to agree with this line of thinking in this case.

 

[unckeyherb]

agree to disagree then......i should have mentioned all my leagues are start 3 wr's. to win i feel you need to have difference makers who can score 30 points easily and no rb outside the elites do that very often. i have moss, owens, and wayne before portis, lynch types

I can't think of a single WR that scores 30 points easily/consistently. Maybe we score differently, but Moss last year topped 30 once in wk 11, TO once also in wk 11, Wayne no, Fitz no, Housh no. Granted we were not PPR last year and this year we are going to .5 ppr. Still though, outside of top tier QB's I don't know how you can possibly rely on any player to "easily" score 30 points.

 

[LawFitz]

agree to disagree then......i should have mentioned all my leagues are start 3 wr's. to win i feel you need to have difference makers who can score 30 points easily and no rb outside the elites do that very often. i have moss, owens, and wayne before portis, lynch types

I can't think of a single WR that scores 30 points easily/consistently. Maybe we score differently, but Moss last year topped 30 once in wk 11, TO once also in wk 11, Wayne no, Fitz no, Housh no. Granted we were not PPR last year and this year we are going to .5 ppr. Still though, outside of top tier QB's I don't know how you can possibly rely on any player to "easily" score 30 points.

I think scoring and starting requirements are making all the difference in this argument. Years ago we switched from 2 starting WR and no PPR to 3 starters plus 0.5 PPR. These seemingly small changes made a HUGE difference in the value of WRs in my league. Full PPR leagues have even more of this effect obviously.The value of positions is now much better balanced (6 pts per TD pass, 1 starting QB) and stud WRs go before 2nd tier RBs as they should.

It all comes down to scoring but in start 3 WR, 0.5 or 1 PPR leagues stud WRs like Moss, TO and Wayne should definitely go ahead of 2nd tier bores like Clinton Portis. All things equal (i.e. stud v stud) RBs still have more value but no longer are studs passed up for the CPs of the world simply b/c you have to have good (if not great) RBs.

 

[fantasyplayer]

to me after these guys I'll gladly grab TO or RMoss or even WayneLTADPSjaxWestyAddaiGoreportisMB3about pick 8 IMO

I think I'll have to agree with this line of thinking in this case.

I'm in a couple of leagues that start a flex (WR/RB/TE). In these league, there's an advantage to having 3 quality RBs. Would this affect at what point you would take Moss or Brady?

 

[fatness]

portis final year numbers are always very good, he'll grind out those 12-15 points a week. that doesn't help u win.

Yes, you're right. It's more reliable to pick a guy who scores fewer points.

 

[FUBAR]

to me after these guys I'll gladly grab TO or RMoss or even WayneLTADPSjaxWestyAddaiGoreportisMB3about pick 8 IMO

I think I'll have to agree with this line of thinking in this case.

I'm in a couple of leagues that start a flex (WR/RB/TE). In these league, there's an advantage to having 3 quality RBs. Would this affect at what point you would take Moss or Brady?

You didn't ask me, but I'm not taking Brady until the 2nd - so I may not get him in most leagues. Lineup + scoring makes the difference, if WRs outscore RBs, my flex is probably a WR anyway, so that won't boost RBs IMO. It might in others opinion though, which would make RB2s go higher than otherwise, so maybe I'd push to get one a little faster. In my experience, when I've drafted late in the 1st, I've ended up going RB/WR or WR/RB. This year will be no different, probably.

 

[Cass Durham]

agree to disagree then......i should have mentioned all my leagues are start 3 wr's. to win i feel you need to have difference makers who can score 30 points easily and no rb outside the elites do that very often. i have moss, owens, and wayne before portis, lynch types

I can't think of a single WR that scores 30 points easily/consistently. Maybe we score differently, but Moss last year topped 30 once in wk 11, TO once also in wk 11, Wayne no, Fitz no, Housh no. Granted we were not PPR last year and this year we are going to .5 ppr. Still though, outside of top tier QB's I don't know how you can possibly rely on any player to "easily" score 30 points.

I think scoring and starting requirements are making all the difference in this argument. Years ago we switched from 2 starting WR and no PPR to 3 starters plus 0.5 PPR. These seemingly small changes made a HUGE difference in the value of WRs in my league. Full PPR leagues have even more of this effect obviously.The value of positions is now much better balanced (6 pts per TD pass, 1 starting QB) and stud WRs go before 2nd tier RBs as they should.

It all comes down to scoring but in start 3 WR, 0.5 or 1 PPR leagues stud WRs like Moss, TO and Wayne should definitely go ahead of 2nd tier bores like Clinton Portis. All things equal (i.e. stud v stud) RBs still have more value but no longer are studs passed up for the CPs of the world simply b/c you have to have good (if not great) RBs.

This is absolutely correct. It's all about the scoring system. In PPR leagues last year, these WRs outscored Portis, who did have a solid year last year:Randy Moss

Reggie Wayne

Terrell Owens

Braylon Edwards

T.J. Houshmandzadeh

Larry Fitzgerald

Wes Welker

Chad Johnson

Brandon Marshall

Marques Colston

So, yeah, it makes perfectly good sense to take some of the top tier WRs after the first 5 or 6 RBs come off the board.

 

[Stealthycat]

you got a redraft coming up, you're in one of the last slots, you get TO, then grab Randy Moss, grab a MJD or McFadden or Willie Parker or any number of 2nd level RB's in the 3rd and 4th then Romo in the 5th maybe ....

its got merit and the weeks TO and Moss go off ?

 

[kethnaab]

Romo in the 5th? I've done almost 20 drafts so far for leagues, and I haven't seen Romo make it to the 3rd let alone the 5th.

PPR makes 100% of the difference. if I pick at the back half and one of the big 3 WRs are left, damn straight one (or 2) are going to start for me. Hell, even in non-PPR, I grab one of those 3 if they're available. This is a year where there is a big more value to the middle tier RBs (or perhaps I should say, the dropoff isn't as significant)

The dropoff past TO/Wayne/Moss is significant to the 2nd tier of WRs (Braylon, Colston, Fitz, Ocho, Housh, etc) both from a final production standpoint and from a "top-line potential" standpoint. The big 3 are in the perfect position to score noticeably higher and make a huge difference. Not as many RBs are in that position.

Now, in a PPR/PP4C league (point/4 carries), the RBs come back in style, and TDs become far less significant.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I think at about pick 6 you should start considering Moss. If you're in PPR and start WR 3 leagues, the value of a Stud at WR goes up. I love having a great running back as much as anyone but is Frank Gore really going to out produce Randy Moss? Maybe

If you take Gore at 6 and then at 7, do you really think Marion Barber is going to out produce Moss? I guess maybe

It all goes down to your rankings. I personally think Randy Moss get 1200 and double digit TD's much easier than any running back I can draft starting at around 6. I think Moss will be at around 1500 and 15 and if you believe that, how can you pass up anyone who's going to put up those numbers at 6.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

you got a redraft coming up, you're in one of the last slots, you get TO, then grab Randy Moss, grab a MJD or McFadden or Willie Parker or any number of 2nd level RB's in the 3rd and 4th then Romo in the 5th maybe ....its got merit and the weeks TO and Moss go off ?

You have a lot of reading to catch up..........at least you came to the right place.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

agree to disagree then......i should have mentioned all my leagues are start 3 wr's. to win i feel you need to have difference makers who can score 30 points easily and no rb outside the elites do that very often. i have moss, owens, and wayne before portis, lynch types

I can't think of a single WR that scores 30 points easily/consistently. Maybe we score differently, but Moss last year topped 30 once in wk 11, TO once also in wk 11, Wayne no, Fitz no, Housh no. Granted we were not PPR last year and this year we are going to .5 ppr. Still though, outside of top tier QB's I don't know how you can possibly rely on any player to "easily" score 30 points.

I think scoring and starting requirements are making all the difference in this argument. Years ago we switched from 2 starting WR and no PPR to 3 starters plus 0.5 PPR. These seemingly small changes made a HUGE difference in the value of WRs in my league. Full PPR leagues have even more of this effect obviously.The value of positions is now much better balanced (6 pts per TD pass, 1 starting QB) and stud WRs go before 2nd tier RBs as they should.

It all comes down to scoring but in start 3 WR, 0.5 or 1 PPR leagues stud WRs like Moss, TO and Wayne should definitely go ahead of 2nd tier bores like Clinton Portis. All things equal (i.e. stud v stud) RBs still have more value but no longer are studs passed up for the CPs of the world simply b/c you have to have good (if not great) RBs.

This is absolutely correct. It's all about the scoring system. In PPR leagues last year, these WRs outscored Portis, who did have a solid year last year:Randy Moss

Reggie Wayne

Terrell Owens

Braylon Edwards

T.J. Houshmandzadeh

Larry Fitzgerald

Wes Welker

Chad Johnson

Brandon Marshall

Marques Colston

So, yeah, it makes perfectly good sense to take some of the top tier WRs after the first 5 or 6 RBs come off the board.

Although I agree scoring systems make a difference on where certain players go, just saying that these guys scored more points than a given RB, in this case Portis makes them a better selection. A kicker may score more points than a RB but that doesn't make drafting the kicker the best selection for that round. You have to look at the drop off at RB behind Portis to determine who is more valuable to draft. Do I take Portis here because there's not a lot I like at RB behind him and then get a WR next round because there's a bunch that's all about at the same level or do I take the WR.

 

[Cass Durham]

agree to disagree then......i should have mentioned all my leagues are start 3 wr's. to win i feel you need to have difference makers who can score 30 points easily and no rb outside the elites do that very often. i have moss, owens, and wayne before portis, lynch types

I can't think of a single WR that scores 30 points easily/consistently. Maybe we score differently, but Moss last year topped 30 once in wk 11, TO once also in wk 11, Wayne no, Fitz no, Housh no. Granted we were not PPR last year and this year we are going to .5 ppr. Still though, outside of top tier QB's I don't know how you can possibly rely on any player to "easily" score 30 points.

I think scoring and starting requirements are making all the difference in this argument. Years ago we switched from 2 starting WR and no PPR to 3 starters plus 0.5 PPR. These seemingly small changes made a HUGE difference in the value of WRs in my league. Full PPR leagues have even more of this effect obviously.The value of positions is now much better balanced (6 pts per TD pass, 1 starting QB) and stud WRs go before 2nd tier RBs as they should.

It all comes down to scoring but in start 3 WR, 0.5 or 1 PPR leagues stud WRs like Moss, TO and Wayne should definitely go ahead of 2nd tier bores like Clinton Portis. All things equal (i.e. stud v stud) RBs still have more value but no longer are studs passed up for the CPs of the world simply b/c you have to have good (if not great) RBs.

This is absolutely correct. It's all about the scoring system. In PPR leagues last year, these WRs outscored Portis, who did have a solid year last year:Randy Moss

Reggie Wayne

Terrell Owens

Braylon Edwards

T.J. Houshmandzadeh

Larry Fitzgerald

Wes Welker

Chad Johnson

Brandon Marshall

Marques Colston

So, yeah, it makes perfectly good sense to take some of the top tier WRs after the first 5 or 6 RBs come off the board.

Although I agree scoring systems make a difference on where certain players go, just saying that these guys scored more points than a given RB, in this case Portis makes them a better selection. A kicker may score more points than a RB but that doesn't make drafting the kicker the best selection for that round. You have to look at the drop off at RB behind Portis to determine who is more valuable to draft. Do I take Portis here because there's not a lot I like at RB behind him and then get a WR next round because there's a bunch that's all about at the same level or do I take the WR.

By listing all those WRs, I was making the point that WRs can score an abundant amount of points in a PPR league, making them more valuable than a normal league. You of course have to take position scarcity into consideration at any point in the draft as you stated. In this scenario, I would rank Moss, TO, and Wayne at least above Gore and Portis in a PPR league. And that is what I was saying to be more clear.

RBs and WRs are more similar in value with PPR leagues. The rule of thumb is to draft the player(WR/RB) that you have projected to score the most points. But, if all things are equal, always take the RB until you fill out your starting positions at RB and WR. Then all you have to do is draft for value around that motto. Last year I strayed from my "rule of thumb" by going RB heavy early in a PPR league that uses a Flex. It cost me a championship... Never again.

 

[fantasyplayer]

In a non PPR league, I'd have a hard time taking a WR before LT, ADP, SJAX, Westy, Addai, Gore, Barber, Portis, Lynch and LJ were gone. I think Moss would have to duplicate his performance from last year to justify being taken in front of any of those guys. And I don't expect that to happen.

Yes, he may out produce some of them (even in non PPR), but I'd rather get the workhorse RB and take my chances with WR value plays later in the draft.

 

[TD Ryan]

Thanks Mordraken, u just summed it up perfectly. u can get a 4th round rb who might score 4 points less than a portis or lynch on any given week, but most likely your wr1 and qb will have destroyed the opponent at that spot by double. If you draft and the end of a snake draft this is clearly the way to go. I would love to see an argument against this

I'm not sure why there such a rush to pile on you here in this thread.

I understand what you're trying to say.

Portis gives owners a lot of consistency but hasn't really blown up for an outrageous fantasy week.

If we look at Portis' weekly fantasy performances in '07, we can see this for ourselves:

here's his 17 weeks with the number of fantasy points score (ppr):

note (+) means he surpassed 100 total yards, an important benchmark in many yardage bonus leagues

15

13

15

bye

9

9

18

7

25 (+)

19 (+)

5

14 (+)

11

17 (+)

18

22 (+)

28 (+)

his two biggest games came in week 16 and 17. Weeks when many Portis owners may not have even cared.

After those two monster weeks, he only had (1) 20 fantasy point week.

And he had 100 total yards only 6 times.

Portis is a nice fantasy asset, but he's not an elite fantasy player.

He puts up nice, consistent points on a weekly basis.

He's "safe" if you're in the camp that no longer worries about his durability.

Looks to me like he's the new Rudi Johnson.

 

[Getinthemix]

you got a redraft coming up, you're in one of the last slots, you get TO, then grab Randy Moss, grab a MJD or McFadden or Willie Parker or any number of 2nd level RB's in the 3rd and 4th then Romo in the 5th maybe ....its got merit and the weeks TO and Moss go off ?

I actually prefer to get LT in the first, Steven Jackson in the 2nd, Moss in the 3rd, Owens in the 4th and Brady in the 5th. I also think that getting getting a sleeper like Andre Johnson in the 14th to 17th round range could reap some nice rewards.

 

[hotboyz]

My scoring is 9 pt for all td's over 40 yds and 6 pts for all td's under 40 yds. with no ppr. After the top 6 rb's are gone I think you absolutely can consider grabbing 1 of the big 3 wr. The question is who exactly will be the top 3 wr's. I think if you think you can steal a Steve Smith in the back half of the 2nd rd then maybe you can grab a portis,mcgahee etc... in the 1st rd.

Here's how my leagues top 60 players at the end of 2007:

Brady Tom NWE "Free Agent" 569.64

Romo Tony DAL "Free Agent" 444.84

Manning Peyton IND "Free Agent" 386.2

Favre Brett GNB "Free Agent" 378.48

Brees Drew NOR "Free Agent" 363.62

Anderson Derek CLE "Free Agent" 356.38

Moss Randy NWE "Free Agent" 350.3

Roethlisberger Ben PIT "Free Agent" 344.56

Tomlinson LaDainian SDG "Free Agent" 342.58

Hasselbeck Matt SEA "Free Agent" 340.84

Palmer Carson CIN "Free Agent" 336.24

Westbrook Brian PHI "Free Agent" 322.4

Warner Kurt ARI "Free Agent" 309.58

McNabb Donovan PHI "Free Agent" 291.56

Peterson Adrian MIN "Free Agent" 290.9

Cutler Jay DEN "Free Agent" 287.68

Manning Eli NYG "Free Agent" 276.94

Kitna Jon DET "Free Agent" 273.04

Owens Terrell DAL "Free Agent" 271

Addai Joseph IND "Free Agent" 263.6

Rivers Philip SDG "Free Agent" 254.08

Portis Clinton WAS "Free Agent" 252.7

Lewis Jamal CLE "Free Agent" 252.1

Edwards Braylon CLE "Free Agent" 251.9

Wayne Reggie IND "Free Agent" 247.4

Garrard David JAC "Free Agent" 238.56

Johnson Chad CIN "Free Agent" 228.7

Fitzgerald Larry ARI "Free Agent" 221.2

McGahee Willis BAL "Free Agent" 216.8

Barber Marion DAL "Free Agent" 215.5

Marshall Brandon DEN "Free Agent" 205.2

Colston Marques NOR "Free Agent" 205.2

Houshmandzadeh T.J. CIN "Free Agent" 204.7

Young Vince TEN "Free Agent" 204.34

Garcia Jeff TAM "Free Agent" 204.2

Chargers San Diego SDG "Free Agent" 201

James Edgerrin ARI "Free Agent" 199.8

Campbell Jason WAS "Free Agent" 199.8

Gore Frank SFO "Free Agent" 199.8

Burress Plaxico NYG "Free Agent" 198.5

Lynch Marshawn BUF "Free Agent" 197.22

Parker Willie PIT "Free Agent" 197.1

Graham Earnest TAM "Free Agent" 196.2

Jennings Greg GNB "Free Agent" 192

Taylor Fred JAC "Free Agent" 189

Welker Wes NWE "Free Agent" 188.9

Grant Ryan GNB "Free Agent" 188.3

Curtis Kevin PHI "Free Agent" 188

Jackson Steven STL "Free Agent" 186.38

Jones-Drew Maurice JAC "Free Agent" 185.5

White LenDale TEN "Free Agent" 185.2

White Roddy ATL "Free Agent" 185

Seahawks Seattle SEA "Free Agent" 180

Jacobs Brandon NYG "Free Agent" 178.3

Holt Torry STL "Free Agent" 176.9

Smith Steve CAR "Free Agent" 176.8

Gates Antonio SDG "Free Agent" 175.5

Witten Jason DAL "Free Agent" 175.5

Jackson Tarvaris MIN "Free Agent" 172.44

Gonzalez Tony KAN "Free Agent" 172.2

 

[jaylasoul14]

i feel vindicated! yesterday my opinion was attacked! In fact, i feel this is the year to go wr/wr if you draft near the end.

You backs will be thomas jones and darren mcfadden caliber, but you will destroy teams wr's almost everyweek by alot. Especially true in ppr or .5ppr. then you dont draft a wr to 8th round or later and get like 3 or 4 decent rb's in rounds 3,4,5,and 6. Mike turner, selvin young, thomas jones, rudi johnson, macfadden. to me mcgahee , lynch, portis arent much better than these guys. whats the difference, 4 points a week? and your wr's will beat the other team by 20 most weeks.

 

[jaylasoul14]

( picking wr's early) moss,owens,mcfaddden,and mike turner sounds much better to me than portis,lynch,greg jennings, santanio holmes ( picking rb's early)

 

[s_ezy]

every year is the year to go WR/WR, if you know what you are doing.

this thread happens every single offseason.

 

[Grahamburn]

i feel vindicated! yesterday my opinion was attacked! In fact, i feel this is the year to go wr/wr if you draft near the end. You backs will be thomas jones and darren mcfadden caliber, but you will destroy teams wr's almost everyweek by alot. Especially true in ppr or .5ppr. then you dont draft a wr to 8th round or later and get like 3 or 4 decent rb's in rounds 3,4,5,and 6. Mike turner, selvin young, thomas jones, rudi johnson, macfadden. to me mcgahee , lynch, portis arent much better than these guys. whats the difference, 4 points a week? and your wr's will beat the other team by 20 most weeks.

The problem you're going to run into is letting those 2nd tier running backs fall into the lap of the owners picking at the middle/bottom of the second. If Gore/Portis/McGahee/Lynch are around at pick 2.7, 2.8, or 2.9 after a receiver run at the end of the first/early second then those players are going to be coupled with the likes of Steven Jackson, Brian Westbrook, Addai and so on. These owners then have the distinct advantage of going receiver in the third knowing the fact that those owners taking receiver early in the first and second rounds MUST take a running back in the late third round. That let's middle tier receivers like Torry Holt or Brandon Marshall fall, of which can compete on a weekly basis with TO and Moss, on a team that already has a dominant running back corps. In my eyes you're setting your team up for failure if you're hoping you can beat SJAX/McGahee each week with Michael Turner and Darren McFadden because you have a TO/Moss facing Holt or someone of the like.Westbrook, McGahee, Holt, Marshall seems quite a bit stronger than TO, Wayne, Turner, McFadden.