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Ahmad Bradshaw and David Wilson (1 Viewer)

I'm curious what it should take to get Wilson in dynasty. I own Bradshaw and didn't pick high enough to get him in the rookie draft. I made a couple offers prior to preseason and they went nowhere. A couple more bad games and what would his price point be?
Depends on the owner's patience. Personally, I don't see me dropping his price this year as I didn't expect much from him this year. I'd still want a good young WR or a top QB - I picked him 1.05 after Luck and RG3 were taken, I'd have preferred one of the QBs and would easily trade Wilson for either, even if I had to add a QB2 type.
 
I'm curious what it should take to get Wilson in dynasty. I own Bradshaw and didn't pick high enough to get him in the rookie draft. I made a couple offers prior to preseason and they went nowhere. A couple more bad games and what would his price point be?
His price would probably be the same. A few bad games to start the season isn't going to put dynasty owners in panic mode. Redraft, sure, but I don't think there will be a major effect on his dynasty price if he doesn't get a lot of time to start the season.
 
How much work should we expect WIlson to get today?
Good question. Nobody gives a #### about my team, but I'm facing a tough decision of whether to start him, Hillis, or Dwyer. Wish NYG wasn't playing tonight.So I'd like to hear how much people think he'll be on the field tonight.
How can you not go with Hillis? I think that's an easy choice.
I'm definitely leaning that way, and that's the lineup I have set right now. He's got the most chance of getting the most touches, but I think Wilson could be the x-factor who makes a couple of big plays.
That's exactly why I put in Wilson over Hillis myself in another league. No way are they running Bradshaw 100% of every running play tonight, if Wilson can get good carries and pop a few good runs...who knows, he might even sneak in a TD or something.Also nice having a player to root for on opening night, just sayin'.
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'ImTheScientist said:
'shadyridr said:
cant believe people started wilson at flex and thought hed take over for a two time super bowl 26 yr old rb.
:lmao: ... Rookies
in re: starting wilson here- agree. classic overcoaching.in general: you have to get over this rookie rb thing. its a fallacy. talent + opportunity = Championship :houshmansadah:
 
'BigSteelThrill said:
Wilson was seeing plenty of time right up until that fumble.With Coughlin, its something that is not acceptable. The team will work hard to correct it.
it's these kind of rationalizations that get people into trouble. Trust your eyes. He's a huge hold in keeper/dyno but in redraft? he's a handcuff/injury lottery ticket like 20 other backs in the league.Admittedly he's on the short list of 20 likely to get the rock for sure, and Bradshaws injury history aint great, but don't convince yourself it's not a duck. That #### be quacking.
 
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I'm curious what it should take to get Wilson in dynasty. I own Bradshaw and didn't pick high enough to get him in the rookie draft. I made a couple offers prior to preseason and they went nowhere. A couple more bad games and what would his price point be?
His price would probably be the same. A few bad games to start the season isn't going to put dynasty owners in panic mode. Redraft, sure, but I don't think there will be a major effect on his dynasty price if he doesn't get a lot of time to start the season.
I think you could get an owner overreacting here. Time to buy in keeper/dyno/redrafts where yo already own bradshaw. His price will never be lower.
 
Guessing Wilson owners will panic and not realize NYG plays the Bucs next week. I'll pick him up and ship him after 10 garbage time carries vs the worse deference in the league. Or wait till later when hes on waivers and has adjusted to the nfl game. Can't feel sorry for anyone that started him Week 1 in a divisional game :no:

 
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One thing to keep in mind is that Bradshaw only carried the ball 17 times yesterday - a manageable total for him.

Now way is Coughlin going to hand him the ball 25-30 times on a regular basis, in games where they are controlling the clock. The Giants want to get back to running the football with regularity, so Wilson will be needed. It may take a bit more time for Wilson now, but owners shouldn't panic.

It's a dent to his redraft status, but dynasty leaguers should relax. If you were expecting him to explode out of the gate, your expectations were too high to begin with.

 
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I'm curious what it should take to get Wilson in dynasty. I own Bradshaw and didn't pick high enough to get him in the rookie draft. I made a couple offers prior to preseason and they went nowhere. A couple more bad games and what would his price point be?
His price would probably be the same. A few bad games to start the season isn't going to put dynasty owners in panic mode. Redraft, sure, but I don't think there will be a major effect on his dynasty price if he doesn't get a lot of time to start the season.
I think you could get an owner overreacting here. Time to buy in keeper/dyno/redrafts where yo already own bradshaw. His price will never be lower.
Not a bad time to buy, but I think his price can and will get lower. It's a gamble, but I think there's a decent chance you'll be able to get Wilson dirt cheap next offseason.
 
Criminal that they didn't find a way to get Wilson opportunities in space after Bradshaw went down. They need to get this kid up to speed and let him

Flourish

 
Giants beat writer:

@JennyVrentas

Andre Brown got IV after the game. While he was talking to media, sounded like he received a negative XRay result but he wouldn't say. #nyg

 
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Criminal that they didn't find a way to get Wilson opportunities in space after Bradshaw went down. They need to get this kid up to speed and let him

Flourish
I think a lot had to do with the fact that NYG was losing until late.If theyre up comfortably, I bet Wilson is getting more touches.

 
Criminal that they didn't find a way to get Wilson opportunities in space after Bradshaw went down. They need to get this kid up to speed and let him

Flourish
I think a lot had to do with the fact that NYG was losing until late.If theyre up comfortably, I bet Wilson is getting more touches.
I agree on this. Wilson is not going to be used much in passing situations right now and the Giants were in pure pass mode by the time Bradshaw went down. Then Brown had some nice runs and they just rode the hot hand. If Bradshaw is out I do expect Wilson will see a lot more chances this week although Brown will still likely be the lead back.But who knows, maybe Brown fumbles on his first play and then Wilson takes over.

 
Criminal that they didn't find a way to get Wilson opportunities in space after Bradshaw went down. They need to get this kid up to speed and let him

Flourish
I think a lot had to do with the fact that NYG was losing until late.If theyre up comfortably, I bet Wilson is getting more touches.
I agree on this. Wilson is not going to be used much in passing situations right now and the Giants were in pure pass mode by the time Bradshaw went down. Then Brown had some nice runs and they just rode the hot hand. If Bradshaw is out I do expect Wilson will see a lot more chances this week although Brown will still likely be the lead back.But who knows, maybe Brown fumbles on his first play and then Wilson takes over.
Wilson also ran the wrong route or made the wrong read on a play. It almost led to an INT but the DB, Barber I think, dropped the ball.
 
So what is the feeling among Bradshaw owners? 50/50 timeshare with Brown when he comes back? Does Bradshaw keep the goal line touches?

 
So what is the feeling among Bradshaw owners? 50/50 timeshare with Brown when he comes back? Does Bradshaw keep the goal line touches?
After last night I really dont see how that is possible. That is not in Browns DNA to split time, he is a back that gets better with touches. Platooning him would be a mistake in my opinion.Bradshaw has never ran as good as Brown did last night. He never broke tackles they way Brown did in the first half.If anything I think it means that they now have the luxury of not rushing Bradshaw back.
 
So what is the feeling among Bradshaw owners? 50/50 timeshare with Brown when he comes back? Does Bradshaw keep the goal line touches?
I think the thread title needs to be changed. If Bradshaw does lose work over the course of the year, it clearly wont be to Wilson. I actually picture Coughlin using Brown like he used to us Jacobs when Bradshaw comes back. While Brown is not as big, he runs downhill with power.
 
So what is the feeling among Bradshaw owners? 50/50 timeshare with Brown when he comes back? Does Bradshaw keep the goal line touches?
Id say 60/40 Bradshaw/Brown at worst. Goal line touches, who knows but Id still say Bradshaw. Hes been a pretty good TD machine in recent years. Honestly going into the year most people thought it would be 60/40 Bradshaw/Wilson so I dont think much has changed since preseason.
 
So what is the feeling among Bradshaw owners? 50/50 timeshare with Brown when he comes back? Does Bradshaw keep the goal line touches?
After last night I really dont see how that is possible. That is not in Browns DNA to split time, he is a back that gets better with touches. Platooning him would be a mistake in my opinion.Bradshaw has never ran as good as Brown did last night. He never broke tackles they way Brown did in the first half.

If anything I think it means that they now have the luxury of not rushing Bradshaw back.
This is the second thread I saw you spout this nonsense. You must own Brown and not Bradshaw. This is Brown's YPC by quarter:1st: 7 YPC

2nd: 3.17 YPC

3rd: 2 YPC

4th: 3 YPC

His runs in the 1st quarter:

7, 31, 0, 16, 3, 1, 19

His runs from the 2nd quarter on:

2, 7, 1, 1, 3, 5, 3, 0, 2, 3, 7, 1, 1

If anything he got WORSE with touches. Either that or Carolina adjusted.

 
So what is the feeling among Bradshaw owners? 50/50 timeshare with Brown when he comes back? Does Bradshaw keep the goal line touches?
After last night I really dont see how that is possible. That is not in Browns DNA to split time, he is a back that gets better with touches. Platooning him would be a mistake in my opinion.Bradshaw has never ran as good as Brown did last night. He never broke tackles they way Brown did in the first half.

If anything I think it means that they now have the luxury of not rushing Bradshaw back.
This is the second thread I saw you spout this nonsense. You must own Brown and not Bradshaw. This is Brown's YPC by quarter:1st: 7 YPC

2nd: 3.17 YPC

3rd: 2 YPC

4th: 3 YPC

His runs in the 1st quarter:

7, 31, 0, 16, 3, 1, 19

His runs from the 2nd quarter on:

2, 7, 1, 1, 3, 5, 3, 0, 2, 3, 7, 1, 1

If anything he got WORSE with touches. Either that or Carolina adjusted.
I dont own either just a big fan of Brown. I have seen him at every level from HS up. Brown excels at getting carries in bulk regardless of what he did last night.
 

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