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Ahmad Bradshaw to Indy? (1 Viewer)

JaxBill said:
rockaction said:
Bradshaw is legit and knows Indy's system. I'm a little disappointed I drafted Gore in my main league without thinking that they might sign him after Week One. I think I would have gone with a different back, because when Bradshaw is healthy, he's a monster pass catcher and picks up blitzes in the backfield really, really well. But it's not just that his leg is broken; I think he's a bone-on-bone guy and he has screws in his feet, too.

He's still worthy of a roster spot for some of the shootoutts that the Colts might get into at times.​
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This is the same guy who couldn't beat out Trent Richardson last year, right?
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:lmao:

 
Jack White said:
pantherclub said:
Jack White said:
Since we play a weekly game, Bradshaw might have some value for as long as he's healthy. He's worth a spot on your bench unless it's shallow.
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Thats the rub I think here, most redraft leagues have adopted short benches and roster spot. (at least the leagues I am in) so dropping someone on your current team one week in to pick up AB who hasnt signed and is coming off injury is a huge gamble. If you are in a league with basically unlimited roster space and there is nobody else on the wire then sure why not but I dont think those leagues exist anymore. At least not the big money ones.
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What is the typical number of bench spots?

My main league is 9 starters and 9 bench spots, which I think is about right . . . one backup for each starter.

We also use FAAB instead of waivers, which I think makes a difference.
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5 bench spots in both my redraft leagues.

QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/Flex/D/K

Still found room for him in one. Adios Torrey Smith.

 
JaxBill said:
rockaction said:
Bradshaw is legit and knows Indy's system. I'm a little disappointed I drafted Gore in my main league without thinking that they might sign him after Week One. I think I would have gone with a different back, because when Bradshaw is healthy, he's a monster pass catcher and picks up blitzes in the backfield really, really well. But it's not just that his leg is broken; I think he's a bone-on-bone guy and he has screws in his feet, too.

He's still worthy of a roster spot for some of the shootouts that the Colts might get into at times.
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This is the same guy who couldn't beat out Trent Richardson last year, right?

he is a decent receiving back though.
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I wouldn't put it that way. They wound up splitting the load for the most part, and it was clear that Bradshaw was a much better back. Bradshaw played more snaps when he was healthy while Richardson started.

Bradshaw attempted 90 rushes for 425 yards, or 4.7 per attempt.

Richardson attempted 159 for 519, or about 3.25 a carry.

Bradshaw also saw a bunch of targets out of the backfield. He got 47 targets, caught 38, and gained about 300 yards.

eta* Until Bradshaw's injury, Bradshaw played more snaps than Richardson did, and the bulk of Richardson's runs came in Games 2, 3, and 4 where the Colts won comfortably and were still in the process of trying to get Richardson going.

 
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Makes a whole lot of sense... he's younger than I realized too - only 29. Look at Sproles at 32... Bradshaw could approximate that role for Indy's offense and be a huge contributor.

 
He was amazing last year. Seems like a no brainer for Indy with only 32 yr old Gore and 2 rookies on the roster. Gore and Bradshaw would make a great combo for them. With Ballard being released I gotta think this happens soon.

This does dampen expectations for Gore somewhat as he was drafted in FF in hopes of getting some combination of the combined stats of Bradshaw, TRich, and Herron from last year. But both Gore and Bradshaw will be startable if he is signed.

 
rockaction said:
JaxBill said:
rockaction said:
Bradshaw is legit and knows Indy's system. I'm a little disappointed I drafted Gore in my main league without thinking that they might sign him after Week One. I think I would have gone with a different back, because when Bradshaw is healthy, he's a monster pass catcher and picks up blitzes in the backfield really, really well. But it's not just that his leg is broken; I think he's a bone-on-bone guy and he has screws in his feet, too.

He's still worthy of a roster spot for some of the shootouts that the Colts might get into at times.
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This is the same guy who couldn't beat out Trent Richardson last year, right?

he is a decent receiving back though.
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I wouldn't put it that way. They wound up splitting the load for the most part, and it was clear that Bradshaw was a much better back. Bradshaw played more snaps when he was healthy while Richardson started.

Bradshaw attempted 90 rushes for 425 yards, or 4.7 per attempt.

Richardson attempted 159 for 519, or about 3.25 a carry.

Bradshaw also saw a bunch of targets out of the backfield. He got 47 targets, caught 38, and gained about 300 yards.

eta* Until Bradshaw's injury, Bradshaw played more snaps than Richardson did, and the bulk of Richardson's runs came in Games 2, 3, and 4 where the Colts won comfortably and were still in the process of trying to get Richardson going.
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So last year where he was clearly the better back here are his double digit carry games

Week 2 - 13

Week 5 - 15

Week 6 - 11

Week 7 - 10

Indy didn't bring him back. They sign Gore to a big contract instead. Indy waits until now so they don't have to guarantee his contract to sign him.

Sure he could be a decent role player in a dynamic offense. I'm just saying that he isn't being signed to carry a huge load even if Gore were to go down.

 
Anyone who says he wasn't vital to the colts (and ur fantasy team) clearly hasn't watched him play and are just being stat whores. Why would u not take him as a flier. You have nothing to lose but so much to gain when playing and healthy

 
Put a claim in on him for $1. He either gets signed by Indy and I'm happy, he gets signed by another team and I re-evaluate, or I carry him for a week and likely dump him after that if he goes unsigned. Our waivers run daily so I'd rather grab him now than have to potentially fight for him tomorrow, or the next day, after he signs with someone.

 
Jack White said:
pantherclub said:
Jack White said:
Since we play a weekly game, Bradshaw might have some value for as long as he's healthy. He's worth a spot on your bench unless it's shallow.
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Thats the rub I think here, most redraft leagues have adopted short benches and roster spot. (at least the leagues I am in) so dropping someone on your current team one week in to pick up AB who hasnt signed and is coming off injury is a huge gamble. If you are in a league with basically unlimited roster space and there is nobody else on the wire then sure why not but I dont think those leagues exist anymore. At least not the big money ones.
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What is the typical number of bench spots?

My main league is 9 starters and 9 bench spots, which I think is about right . . . one backup for each starter.

We also use FAAB instead of waivers, which I think makes a difference.
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That would be glorious. We only have 6 bench spots to go with 9 starters.

 
Dropped R. Mathews for Hillman this morning since he was sitting out there as a FA.

But now, I'm tempted to pick up Bradshaw.... I know it's a gamble, but I can afford the risk. Hmmmm....

 
I had him last year...picked him up off W after week 1. He went on a tear, and after a few weeks, I traded him for K. Benjamin. For the first few weeks of that trade, I was regretting it as he was putting up a TD almost every week until he got hurt. He's legit, and they use him in really odd, but productive ways. He was their goal-line back for much of last year. The Colts really aren't a pound-it-up-the-middle type team like the 49'ers were. I think Gore is still a good RB...but I don't think his style fits the Colt's Offense. I think if Bradshaw is signed, they'll both have value. If the Colts are in a close game, I think Bradshaw is the guy. If it's a Colt's blow-out, Gore would get more carries in must-run situations.

I threw my hat into the ring for him. We're through waivers, so I grabbed him and dropped Alfred Blue. I figure Texas is such a cluster#### anyway that it's not a big loss.

 
It is a bit unclear. Has he already served his one game suspension, or must he sit for a game once he signs (with Indy or elsewhere) ?

 
Would you guys rather have Dunbar or Bradshaw? Seems to me Dunbar is locked in as the 3rd down RB or is that IND timeshare more valuable? I'm not ready to toss Gore aside, but then again Bradshaw was effective with Richardson. However, Gore can catch passes and block.

 
Keith1 said:
It is a bit unclear. Has he already served his one game suspension, or must he sit for a game once he signs (with Indy or elsewhere) ?
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From rotoworld.

Bradshaw's one-game suspension is up, and he's reportedly 100 percent healthy after breaking his leg last November.

 
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bleachercreacher said:
Mile High said:
Keith1 said:
It is a bit unclear. Has he already served his one game suspension, or must he sit for a game once he signs (with Indy or elsewhere) ?
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From rotoworld.Bradshaw's one-game suspension is up, and he's reportedly 100 percent healthy after breaking his leg last November.
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I think rotoworld is wrong here. Fairly certain he has to sign to serve his suspension.
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Yeah, it doesn't make sense that he could serve a suspension from the unemployment line.

 
Doesn't surprise me that Rotoworld would be "wrong."

Ironically, I am regularly checking their website/newsfeed to see news of Bradshaw signing with Indy. So far, I have seen nothing.

 
Keith1 said:
Doesn't surprise me that Rotoworld would be "wrong."

Ironically, I am regularly checking their website/newsfeed to see news of Bradshaw signing with Indy. So far, I have seen nothing.
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I have FAAB waivers running tonight, and I'm hoping nothing breaks today.

 
Jack White said:
bleachercreacher said:
Mile High said:
Keith1 said:
It is a bit unclear. Has he already served his one game suspension, or must he sit for a game once he signs (with Indy or elsewhere) ?
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From rotoworld.Bradshaw's one-game suspension is up, and he's reportedly 100 percent healthy after breaking his leg last November.
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I think rotoworld is wrong here. Fairly certain he has to sign to serve his suspension.
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Yeah, it doesn't make sense that he could serve a suspension from the unemployment line.
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Would he even play the first week after signing. 1 game would seem to be a non issue.

 
Mile High said:
Jack White said:
bleachercreacher said:
Mile High said:
Keith1 said:
It is a bit unclear. Has he already served his one game suspension, or must he sit for a game once he signs (with Indy or elsewhere) ?
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From rotoworld.Bradshaw's one-game suspension is up, and he's reportedly 100 percent healthy after breaking his leg last November.
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I think rotoworld is wrong here. Fairly certain he has to sign to serve his suspension.
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Yeah, it doesn't make sense that he could serve a suspension from the unemployment line.
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Would he even play the first week after signing. 1 game would seem to be a non issue.
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So let's get him signed ! LOL

 
Keith1 said:
Mile High said:
Jack White said:
bleachercreacher said:
Mile High said:
Keith1 said:
It is a bit unclear. Has he already served his one game suspension, or must he sit for a game once he signs (with Indy or elsewhere) ?
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From rotoworld.Bradshaw's one-game suspension is up, and he's reportedly 100 percent healthy after breaking his leg last November.
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I think rotoworld is wrong here. Fairly certain he has to sign to serve his suspension.
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Yeah, it doesn't make sense that he could serve a suspension from the unemployment line.
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Would he even play the first week after signing. 1 game would seem to be a non issue.
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So let's get him signed ! LOL
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I agree. I want to look like a genius to my league mates.

 
Mile High said:
Would he even play the first week after signing. 1 game would seem to be a non issue.
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Normally I'd say he wouldn't...but he's going to the team and system he already knows. My bigger question would just be conditioning. I have no doubt he's in shape...but contact might be hard to replicate off a team.

Ultimately, I'm adding him hoping he gets on a team and plays in the next 2-3 weeks...If it's not right away, either for suspension or other reason, I'm OK with it. It's a long shot to get him on the field this week either way.

 
ATB said:
Id like to pick him up but idk that I can drop CMike or Matt Jones - too much upside.
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FWIW, I cut Jones for him. Morris looked really good against Miami and I just don't see him being much more than a handcuff this year. I tend to take more lottery ticket moves so it all depends on your risk tolerance. Bradshaw may never sign.

 
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We had this discussion in another thread and everything we find there was that a suspended player does serve time while not on a roster. So Bradshaw could come in and play immediately.

 
ponchsox said:
ATB said:
Id like to pick him up but idk that I can drop CMike or Matt Jones - too much upside.
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FWIW, I cut Jones for him. Morris looked really good against Miami and I just don't see him being much more than a handcuff this year. I tend to take more lottery ticket moves so it all depends on your risk tolerance. Bradshaw may never sign.
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I'd do this too...not to mention, we should know in a week or two what will come of this whole Bradshaw thing...if nothing happens, I'd bet Jones is still out there.

 
saintfool said:
Isn't week 2 when contracts for vets aren't guaranteed too?
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Yes.

Every reason for him to be signed by now. That is why I am a little concerned he isn't signed yet. Maybe teams think he is done. You don't even read anything about workouts.

 
I'm in. If he doesn't get signed, no biggie I'll drop him Sunday morning for next week's streaming defense. But if they sign him, nice upside and he'd probably have a better chance of seeing my active roster than most of the other lottery picks sitting on the wire.

 
Fat Nick said:
Jail said:
saintfool said:
Isn't week 2 when contracts for vets aren't guaranteed too?
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Yes.

Every reason for him to be signed by now. That is why I am a little concerned he isn't signed yet. Maybe teams think he is done. You don't even read anything about workouts.
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Where did this "rumor" of Indy looking at him start anyway?
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It was in the Indy Star.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2015/09/16/report-colts-waiveinjured-vick-ballard/72335332/

Going forward, one name to watch is Ahmad Bradshaw. The eight-year veteran is a free agent after spending the past two seasons with the Colts, both of which ended with season-ending injuries. He led all backs in receiving touchdowns (six) last season despite missing the final six games.

The Colts remain interested in bringing Bradshaw back and he's now healthy after recovering from a broken leg in 2014, according to NFL sources. Bradshaw also faces a one-game NFL suspension for a marijuana charge in February.
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BroncoFreak_2K3 said:
Buck Bradcanon said:
Link makes it sound like he still has to serve suspension. Really do not think that's correct.
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Hes not active on a roster, why wouldn't that be correct?
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Ray Rice wasn't on an active roster last year and his suspension is considered served isn't it.

On the Bradshaw front- I don't think it is the backs that are the problem, it is the offensive line that is. Doesn't matter who you put in there, the yardage totals will be small.

 
montana_grizzly_bears said:
BroncoFreak_2K3 said:
Buck Bradcanon said:
Link makes it sound like he still has to serve suspension. Really do not think that's correct.
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Hes not active on a roster, why wouldn't that be correct?
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Ray Rice wasn't on an active roster last year and his suspension is considered served isn't it. On the Bradshaw front- I don't think it is the backs that are the problem, it is the offensive line that is. Doesn't matter who you put in there, the yardage totals will be small.
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Exactly. Someone linked the NFL suspension rules in another thread and it basically said that players can serve their suspensions while not on a roster. If that wasn't the case, some of these guys with 6-8 game suspensions would never get a second chance.
 
I thought Ray Rice had to serve a suspension once he got picked up which would discourage teams from picking him up?

 
Here is an article mentioning serving suspension while not on a roster:

Twenty two of the 43 suspended players are on NFL teams.

The other 21 will serve their suspensions as free agents.

The players under contract don't count against their respective teams' 53-man rosters while suspended. Once the suspensions are over, roster moves will need to be made maintain roster limits.
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Stephen Holder of the Indianapolis Start says they promoted a RB from their practice squad to replace Ballard. I guess that means Bradshaw is out?

link

 
VandyMan said:
Stephen Holder of the Indianapolis Start says they promoted a RB from their practice squad to replace Ballard. I guess that means Bradshaw is out?

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Hard to tell. Makes me feel better about not picking him up though and blowing my waiver position.

 
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