Very strong arm, great mobility, possibly limited ability to read defenses. Think poor man's Michael Vick.
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AJ FEELEY traded to Chargers (1 Viewer)
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Otis
Footballguy
With Garcia just coming back and healthy and McCown throwing for 400 yards each of the past two weeks, the Jets seem to be, by far, the most likely candidate in the Rivers lottery. Most Jets fans will tell you it's no secret that this is a win-now team. Pennington is toast as a franchise QB, and Vinny the Guido just won't get it done.
I would not be in the least bit surprised to see Losman in a Jets jersey by midnight.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Ravens, ......Saints???,
Ok, Im getting it now - if rivers is on target in his development, and doesnt have the whopping signing bonus that comes with a top of the first pick, then you would actually trade leinart (as the #1 pick) + more for him, since you're getting almost the same thing much cheaper, and with less work/time to develop/reap rewards.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Maybe they won't trade Rivers like we're thinking but perhaps let Brees walk?
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
I just don't see it happening. Brees is looking very solid and Rivers still has growing pains to go thru.SD can make a serious run at a SB next year if they use free agency and the draft to improve their secondary.
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avoiding injuries
Footballguy
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Not to hijack, but both times the teams that traded for the consensus #1 QB were pretty happy.
jonessed
Footballguy
The Chargers and the City of San Diego are still working out details for a new stadium deal to keep San Diego in San Diego. The Charger management definitely wants to stay. Brees is pretty popular and given the Leaf ordeal I don't know if a change like that would go over to well. I'm not hip on sports politics, but it doesn't seem like the right time to dump your pro-bowl QB.
I think it depends on whether they make the playoffs this year, and how far they go.
Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
The very Qb's in question whose job he would be taking (getting old or just bad) are under contract for a loong time. a few notables:Kyle Boller: Signed through 2008
Gus Ferotte: Signed through 2007
Pat Ramsey: Signed through 2007, scheduled to make most money next year
Mark Brunell: Signed through forseable future 2011(?)
Trent Dilfer: Signed through 2009
Kerry Collins: Signed through 2009
Jake Plummer: Signed through 2009
Kurt Warner: Signed through 2006 (MOST LIKELY PLACE FOR RIVERS)
Kyle Orton: Signed through 2009
Jeff Garcia: Signed through 2007 (voidable BY HIM at the end of this year)
Joey Harrington: Signed through 2007
As you can see, there is only one opportunity for him to start next year (if Denny wants to use a 1st rounder on him), one next year (if Saban wants to use a 1st rounder on him)- but until 2008, the options of where to go are extremely slim. By that year however, he as a #4 pick overall will have been sitting on the bench for a total of 5 years.
Which leads me to ask- if Denny Green needs a QB, it would seem as if the Cardinals are first in line for the Matt Lienart sweepstakes- would you take rivers over a shot at him? If not, then Rivers will be benched until the end of the 2007 season- over two years from now.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Isn't Rivers making the NFL minimum?
Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
So they take the risk of plugging him in as an Immediate starter? 
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
They got a sixth round pick for swapping a backup they'd never use anyway.
-OZ-
Footballguy
and I tend to believe whoever gets Leinart will be pleased as well. I understand the reasoning, but IMHO everyone is reading way more into this than need be. Feeley isn't a great backup, and Lemon has more potential than most seem to realize. Not to say he'll be a stud, but a decent backup for a veteran QB (so I get Miami's interest). I suppose this could mean they let Brees walk and Feeley is the better backup for Rivers, but I can't see how Feeley would be a much better backup to Brees than the younger, cheaper QB.Miami saves cap $, which helps them a lot.
I'd venture to say 99% of NFL fans already thought Rivers or Brees would be dealt anyway, this doesn't change that.
Maybe I'm being pessimistic, but is this really big news?
Or is it just that a trade was made, any trade, and there's not a whole lot else to discuss?
Native
Footballguy
FOXSports.com has learned that the Dolphins have agreed on a trade with the Chargers that sent their former starting quarterback A.J. Feeley to San Diego for their third-string quarterback Cleo Lemon and a late-round pick.Feeley and Jay Fielder split starting duties under the Dave Wannstedt-Rick Spielman regime, but Feeley never lived up to the promise he showed as a backup in Philadelphia. In 2004, Feeley completed just 53.7 percent of his passes for 1,893 yards. He also threw more interceptions (15) than he did touchdown passes (11).Feeley lost out on the starter's job to Gus Frerotte during training camp and has, in fact, been relegated to emergency third quarterback status for most of the season. He has not thrown a single pass in the regular season this year.Of course, neither has Lemon, who has spent the last two seasons backing up both Rivers and Chargers starter Drew Brees.
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Rivers is cheaper than Testaverde. That's part of why he's so attractive. (Rivers is set to make $615,000 next year. Testaverde is making more than $700,000 this year.)
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Testaverde is also under contract next year too.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Yeah, but it's fun to speculate. and this situation will probably be the most discussed of this off-season.
There was never any question about whether Rivers would be traded this year. The Chargers were not shopping him, and were not listening to offers.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Teams aren't as desperate for a QB right now. They would need a whole training camp to get Rivers ready. His value will be just as high in April as it is know. Plus if Brees gets injured they would put Rivers in and not Feeley.Rivers will be dealt before the Draft this off-season.Seems pretty foolish for a team who could convert that bench talent into something that will help them on the field.
Particularly now that they have an able backup QB...
I don't think Feeley is more able than Lemon.Seems pretty foolish for a team who could convert that bench talent into something that will help them on the field.
Particularly now that they have an able backup QB...
Otis
Footballguy
One has more game experience than the other, which generally is a good thing if the Chargers make a SB run and lose Brees somewhere down the stretch.I don't think Feeley is more able than Lemon.Seems pretty foolish for a team who could convert that bench talent into something that will help them on the field.
Particularly now that they have an able backup QB...
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
The only way this could come back to bite the Chargers would be if Brees got hurt, and then Rivers proceeded to either get hurt or perform poorly. If he ended the year with a statline of 4 starts, 600 yards, 2 TDs, 8 INTs, his trade value would probably go down. If he tore his ACL, his trade value would definitely go down.Teams aren't as desperate for a QB right now. They would need a whole training camp to get Rivers ready. His value will be just as high in April as it is know. Plus if Brees gets injured they would put Rivers in and not Feeley.Rivers will be dealt before the Draft this off-season.Seems pretty foolish for a team who could convert that bench talent into something that will help them on the field.
Particularly now that they have an able backup QB...
I don't know what a blocking move is. But the Chargers play the Eagles this week, and the Eagles just signed former Charger LB Zeke Moreno. So the Chargers go out and get a former Eagle backup QB (giving up a player who would never see the field anyway, and getting a draft pick in the process). Feeley could be used as a defensive consultant this week.Maybe it has nothing to do with that at all, but it's something for the conspiracy theorists to ponder.
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Chase Stuart
Footballguy
A blocking move would be if the Chargers thought the Broncos were going to trade for AJ Feeley and San Diego didn't want them to do that, because that would uh, help Denver win the division?
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Would that make him Marcus Vick?
Rovers
Footballguy
From what I've read, Rivers is almost untradable. While his salary isn't big, the cap hit the Chargers would take, based on River's signing bonus, which would be something like a 10 million cap hit (sorry, I forget the exact number, but I know it's big) if he were traded now. At this point, the signing bonus cap hit is spread out over the length of the contract. If they trade him, they take the hit in one year. If they tag Brees, that's a ton of money too. If anything, I think they will let Brees walk. That would be the best solution, cap-wise at least.
No I'm not. That doesn't affect the Jets.
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