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dparker713
Footballguy
Teams send everyone through waivers. I'm somewhat surprised someone would chance putting a claim in and getting stuck with the contract, but the Jays wont just give him away so this likely amounts to nothing.
Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
Total guess here. Either SF or Tex.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Hearing White Sox
Wrigley
Footballguy
of course you are.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Read on another site that the Orioles broadcast mentioned that it was them.But why would anyone talk about the White Sox?
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Team can put any player on waiversThen each team in that league (AL or NL) gets a chance to claim him in a worst to first order.If he clears that league (no one claims him), then he goes through the other league in the same order, worst to first.If he is claimed, the waiving team has 3 options1. Trade him to the team that claimed him2. Take him back if a trade doesn't work out.3. Just let the claiming team take him and claiming team has to eat the contract.
dparker713
Footballguy
Ok, after the non-waiver trade deadline, pretty much every player in MLB is put on waivers. Each team then gets to put in a waiver claim on any player, with teams given priority based on their current record - worst record gets highest priority on all its waiver claims. If a team puts in a claim on a player, then the team with the player currently on their roster has three choices. A) It can withdraw the player from the waiver process, B) it can work a trade for that player with the team that submitted the claim and that team only, or C) allow the waiver claim to proceed without getting compensation in return. If the player is not claimed by anyone, then he is free to be traded to any team in baseball. Big money and playoff teams have been known to put in waiver claims just to block teams ahead in the standings from getting any players that can help them. However, there is a significant risk. A players with horrendous contracts get through waivers all the time, as no one wants to repeat the Randy Myers blunder which left San Diego on the hook for the last 2 years of one of the worst contracts in baseball.
flysack
Footballguy
So everyone is "put on waivers" automatically after the trade deadline passes? Why put someone on waivers? I always thought teams only did it in attempt to either -1. trade someone after the deadline2. Try to dump a guy with a terrible contract on a team who thinks they can make him work.
dparker713
Footballguy
StarkWhy wouldn't you put a player's name on waivers is the better question. There is really no downside, other than the occasional leak like in Rios' case. It gives GM's options between now and Aug 31.
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PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Any chance the Jays just let him and his contract go for nothing?
Balco
Footballguy
I would have to think so, or at least let him go for marginal prospects. I like Rios as a player, but he has a long term contract at pretty big money. The Jays already have the albatross of vernon Wells' contract. The obvious issue is alienating their fan base by letting him walk for nothing.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
So much talent, but this guy just does not give a ####.
Michael Brown
Footballguy
Kim Jones on YES said he was just traded to White Sox
ETA: He's listed in the starting lineup in the pregame boxscore, however
ETA #2: Nevermind -- YES has the boxscore with Jose Bautista in RF, so Rios is out. Will look for a link.
This is the best I've got so far. No major outlets picking it up just yet. Apparently the Jays are letting him go for nothing just to lose the contract.
ETA: He's listed in the starting lineup in the pregame boxscore, however
ETA #2: Nevermind -- YES has the boxscore with Jose Bautista in RF, so Rios is out. Will look for a link.
This is the best I've got so far. No major outlets picking it up just yet. Apparently the Jays are letting him go for nothing just to lose the contract.
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millertyme1
Footballguy
Looks like that is exactly what has now happened...
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urbanhack
Fight The Power!
update?
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
:fistbump:
crewmember
Footballguy
I'm also hearing White Sox
BoulderBob
Footballguy
Apparently he is signed, sealed, delivered to Chicago. Amazing glove, but I'm not sure that bat is ever going to live up to its potential/albatross of a contract, but it 'aint my money. I guess the Sox have more cash than they let on...
The look on the Jays GM's face was priceless, he probably hurled soon after...
I really believe he screwed the pooch here, as Rios, while certainly having a horrible contract, still has decent value, imo...
The look on the Jays GM's face was priceless, he probably hurled soon after...
I really believe he screwed the pooch here, as Rios, while certainly having a horrible contract, still has decent value, imo...
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Capella
Footballguy
shut it down
Footballguy
It was his decision.
"Oh ####, we just traded away Rios...for nothing!"
whoknew
Footballguy
Do you know how the waiver wire works?It was his decision.
WTF? You realize they can pull players back from waivers.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
might want to look into how waivers work.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
I don't know how Ricciardi still has a job. So on the one hand, he gets rid of an overplayed player, on the other hand he overpaid him to begin with.
So he trims some fat here, I still don't know how this helps him. Who does he sign in the offseason? How can the ownership be confident giving this guy the key to sign any free agent, he has been a disaster so far on that front.
I guess he has homegrown a little bit of talent but not enough to compete obviously.
He should have been gone by now.
So he trims some fat here, I still don't know how this helps him. Who does he sign in the offseason? How can the ownership be confident giving this guy the key to sign any free agent, he has been a disaster so far on that front.
I guess he has homegrown a little bit of talent but not enough to compete obviously.
He should have been gone by now.
Capella
Footballguy
He's probably done. The Wells contract alone should have got him the door. Then the Rios contract, then mangling the Halladay deal, and the team is nowhere near competing with the top-3 in the division.Edit: He'll make a superb direct of player personnel, or something. Guy can draft and find young talent.
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dparker713
Footballguy
I seriously doubt this was his decision. The contract wasn't good, but it also wasnt horrible. It wouldnt make sense from a baseball perspective to give Rios away. From an economic/onwership standpoint however, this was a no brainer. Also, for any move of this significance you know the ownership had to be involved.
A
awesomeness
Guest
Not really. He's got a good arm, but his glove is pretty average.
shut it down
Footballguy
This year he's been very average, but previously he's put up pretty strong UZR's the last 5 years, including 23.9 in 2008.Unless you're running some sort of hypothetical franchise with bottomless coffers, getting rid of Rios is a great move. The fans are pissed, but you can go out next year and get a player who's better and cheaper.
Bogart
Footballguy
I remember that offseason I was willing to kill to make him a Ranger. The number of legit CF this team has had easily fits on one hand. But once the news of the contract with TOR came out, I just shook my head, tipped my hat to Wells' agent, and thanked God Texas didn't take on that kind of contract.I still can't believe Vernon Wells is due to make 20 million dollars...like 5 years from now.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Really? They haven't been able to find a CF for 5 years and Dye is likely gone at the end of this year.
Rios isnt a CFer
Wrigley
Footballguy
Rios is NO Jermaine Dye
Bogart
Footballguy
Keith Law seems to disagree. There is no way Rios lives up to his contract, but he should have more value in CF.
eagles2007
Footballguy
For all those who have criticized the Pirates - which is worse? Not spending money or spending it foolishly? This seems like an all-time boneheaded move. Pay a guy too much, then cut him. Oh well, it's the Blue Jays and no one cares about Canada.
eagles2007
Footballguy
The Jays signed him to a bad contract. That's my point. I don't want to see the Pirates doing that. And, yes, one has to question the White Sox ...
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
I'll be sure to pass your concerns on to Kenny Williams.
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awesomeness
Guest
eagles2007 said:
Terrible, just terrible.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Pirates are worse.eagles2007 said:
dparker713
Footballguy
Pirates atleast seem to have a plan.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Yeah - trade away anything that costs over $2 million for peanuts.The Jays are at least trying to contend.
GOB
Footballguy
The Pirates are doing it much better, at least in theory. Now, in reality? The Pirates do not spend enough money to ever compete. But they atleast understand that you might as well get something for what you will lose in a few months.I am a huge Red's fan and I do not understand how they continually miss out on this opportunity. They did it very well with Adam Dunn and Griffey. But this year they left Arthur Rhodes and Harang/Arroyo which is terrible. Now obviously I do not know if they couldnt get anything for these guys, because yeah they suck, but I would have rather seen them eat alot of contract and dump them then keep them.
And for the record, the Rolen trade was just embarrassing on every level.
