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Wingnut
Footballguy
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
By saying top tier, are we talking about $18M a year or more? That kind of top tier?
And am I the only one who thinks Andy Reid must look like he swallowed a handful of worms when he watches game tape of Smith?
And am I the only one who thinks Andy Reid must look like he swallowed a handful of worms when he watches game tape of Smith?
RBM
Footballguy
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
This is true, but only due to strength of schedule. I just finished writing (so it's not live yet) my Rearview QB article. Smith's schedule was 1.2 FP/G easier than average; Brady, Kaep, and Ryan were each about 1 FP/G tougher than average.
Kaepernick and Ryan will probably have tough scheduels again this year, but Smith's certainly looks to be a bit tougher than it was last year.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Really? I know that at his worst, Cutler will make some awful decisions and lose some games, but at least he has the ability and psychological makeup to potentially win his team games as well. Smith is what he is, and paired with the Bears' defense a game manager like Smith would seem like a recipe for utter disaster. Smith is spectacularly unsuited to get the ball to "go up and get it despite the coverage" WRs like Marshall and Jeffrey -- he checks down to his safety valve any time a defender is within a few yards of his primary reads.
RBM
Footballguy
The last game Smith played was one of the best performances by a qb I've ever seen. I don't see Cutler ever being able to play at that level after watching him as closely as I have the last 5 years.Coeur de Lion said:
And I'm pretty positive that if you give Jeffrey and Marshall to Smith, he would have no problem getting them the ball in any situation. After seeing what Trestman did for McCown, you don't think he would make some magic with Smith?
drummer
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
Chiefs agreeing to terms with QB Alex Smith leaves the franchise tag wide open for Justin Houston if need be.
Chiefs agreeing to terms with QB Alex Smith leaves the franchise tag wide open for Justin Houston if need be.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Four-year deal with $45 million guaranteed.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Sounds like the $45 million in guarantees is actually guaranteed. $30 million at signing, $15 million next March.
BaBastage
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
Wingnut
Footballguy
I don't even need to read this to know I'd rather have Kaep over Alex.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Yup. He suffered for years under bad coaching but with good coaching (Harbs & Reid), we've seen him play pretty well. He definitely has his limitations but he seems to know how to play within them now.
drummer
Footballguy
They should make all those short dump-offs to Charles rushing TDs as well.
Actually, I think this is the second time this happened to Smith. The first in 2011.
drummer
Footballguy
drummer
Footballguy
Jeebus, it's Reacher Report. That site is like Tranny Webzone dressing up for the prom.
A long time ago in a fanblog far far away....
There was this guy who used to want to be a Front Page writer for Niners Nation. He used to post all kinds of Ninerfan stuff, and usually skewed it to make the player or team look in it's best light. Like say, post a thread on Shaun Hill's passer rating of 104.9 after a game. Of course, he didn't post the real stat: 14-24 for 152 yards. So I did. What happened after was he melting down over it:
"See this Jim? I hate this drummer guy! He does this to me all the time!"
After a while, we didn't see him around much anymore. The off-season was upon us, and David Fucillo (Fooch) asked for volunteer writers, and I offered to help out with a few. Fanblogs are really, really busy with information, most of which you really don't need to use, but because they need to refresh it with several articles due to the demand - as well as the general ADD of fans who post and read those blogs - any article will suffice. Thus, why Fooch was recruiting, because his site was getting busy in a hurry.
I wound up writing a bunch of articles over a span of a year, most of which I hated, but Fooch liked, lol. I'd post stat articles that weren't about stats, but how people were using them now, (just to counter "Florida" Danny Tuccitto's DVOA articles, lol), articles about my favorite subject: the Front Office, etc. I was kinda like a pinch hitter, posting articles when needed, sometimes within the hour just to get copy out, because Fooch needed something for the 3pm slot.
When Mike Singletary's final season as Head Coach was underway, I stopped writing articles because my own work season was starting, and just went back to being a poster. I still was on "staff" though, and of course if you read anything I post here, it's a LOT worse when it's posted on a fan blog. I can tell fans that Singletary was crapping the bed, how the Yorks screwed this up again, how the 49ers still can't remember offense, and that they forgot what a real QB and WR looks like, etc. But I can't write about that on the Front Page. I wound up sort of Persona Non-Grata (just like here!), all the while being validated by the team itself. Not from anybody from the front office or media. Just by the season, the team's performance, and how it was totally predictable from the very first game.
Even some of the other writers didn't like what I posted. Mostly because I had the guts to say what they couldn't, was right almost 90% of the time, and that the same fans who didn't like my posts were giving them a whole lotta page clicks. In a way, I was hurting their credibility, and also, there is a lot of perks to be had when you write for a popular fan blog. You just don't get free scrunchies when you criticize those who give them to you.
When Harbaugh Day came upon us, guess who came back? Mr. Shaun Hill Passer Rating! We were already talking Harbaugh way before (I brought him up months before, who which lol Fooch didn't think would work out). We all were sitting at our computers waiting to see if Harbaugh was gonna choose SF over MIA. We got a great tip that he was choosing SF because he saw Harbaugh at a local barbershop getting his dome ready, and it turned out to be the case. I caused a panic throughout the day telling them that if they didn't get Harbaugh, it was gonna be Baalke/Billick 2011. Being that my track record was so good there that they called me "Singletary's Rat" over at NN, the panic was quite palpable. A HUGE ejaculation came errrrrrr was upon us when Harbaugh was announced as Messiah. It happened way past Happy Hour IIRC, and Mr. Passer Rating was calling me out over several threads. After a while I tired of him, and just posted this one sentence:
"Have another beer nocal..."
What happened after, is something you never read about in Fanblogs.
I wound up taking my own advice, had a beer, and went to bed. I woke up to my email inbox hammered with all kinds of messages. Mr Passer Rating went on and called the whole site of NN out, asked them why I was a writer there, why he wasn't, etc. The morning crew deleted all of his posts. I explained to Fooch that I never met the guy, how if I knew he had a problem, etc. It was pretty darn awesome. Harbaugh getting hired, and Mr. Passer Rating having a meltdown.
I wound up leaving NN for good, by my own choice. But every once in a while, I would check it out. What I saw was more of Bleacher Report being installed, even with a sort of cross site relationship with BR writers, like Dylan "I never saw a Trent Baalke draft pick that wasn't a slam dunk Blue Chip, even in the 7th round" DeSimone posting FP articles there. The kicker was that Mr. Passer Rating wishes came true: I wasn't at NN anymore, he was stealing errrrrr writing front page articles there finally, and the 49ers were winning games.
From the "Where is Mr. Passer Rating now?" file:
When I read the 49er Webzone, I am reminded of how cruel sports are to fans of it. Like, the ratio of males to females within a fanblog is to the point where we really do have to wonder where the human race is going, and why most males today can't even get a job at a 7-11. It's the most un-sociable environment for young and old males. Why? Because of the same reason internet porn is huge: just by using a mouse, you are enjoying something that is at this moment unattainable: life. You are involved within a virtual safezone, and the only credit you need is to not make us feel unsafe! I used to remind fans of how little they have to do with teams winning games, but that just takes all the fun out of being a fan, right? The reason sports are cruel to males is that when we lose, we lose a lot more than we really do. Which is weird because all we just do is lose a game. Yet, the cool thing is we all lose together, and the worst thing is:
When we don't realize it wasn't we who lost the game.
Thus, leading to Mr.Passer Rating, and how cruel he was to the Webzone:
Mr. Passer Rating left NN to write for Bleacher Report. Yeah. I mean, I can't even figure that a lateral move. It's like trying to cross pollinate nutgrass with Carl Spackler's latest hybrid grown in Mono Lake soil. Yet, as most successful writers do in an age of the internet - where we never earn a freakin' dime for as many hours we invest - we need stats.
The harsh reality in any male dominated realm - well it's not harsh at all - it's that is is way too predictable.
Mr' Passer Ratings greatest article - the one that validates him to one of the biggest 49er fansites - had this premise:
"The San Francisco 49ers are not only the greatest team in football, but they are the greatest team in all of sports!"
There lies the dream of young men.
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Mr. Irrelevant
IBL Representative
Hilts
Footballguy
2014
Alex Smith: 2,211 yards. 327 attempts. 65.1 completion %. 6.76 ypa. 13 touchdowns. 4 interceptions. 4 fumbles.
Colin Kaepernick: 2,736 yards. 376 attempts. 61.2 completion %. 7.28 ypa. 15 touchdowns. 8 interceptions. 7 fumbles.
Faust
MVP
After two years, was Alex Smith trade a success for Chiefs?
http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/10042/after-two-years-was-alex-smith-trade-a-success-for-chiefs
http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/10042/after-two-years-was-alex-smith-trade-a-success-for-chiefs
cstu
Footballguy
drummer
Footballguy
Yeah, the article really doesn't even break down how the 49ers were able to turn the 2 picks into 5 players through multiple trades. 49ers ended up getting Tank Carradine, Corey Lemonier (involved another draft pick also), Carlos Hyde, Chris Borland & Steve Johnson for Alex Smith. All five players should be getting good playing time next year. I don't see any way that this trade won't be considered a huge success by the 49ers in another 2 to 3 years.
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drummer
Footballguy
The only player that will bear fruit in the long run is Hyde, and even that's a maybe. Baalke draft picks seem to have a shelf life of a year or two. Even FA Stevie Johnson fell off the radar. Borland, while a gamer is still a bit small for a LB, and durability can be an issue. But to your point, they did get good value off of the trade, even in the short run.
Faust
MVP
Confident Smith throwing more aggressively for Chiefs:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000530430/article/confident-smith-throwing-more-aggressively-for-chiefs
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000530430/article/confident-smith-throwing-more-aggressively-for-chiefs
Faust
MVP
Alex Smith failed to ignite Chiefs' passing game until too late:
http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/13850/alex-smiths-failed-to-ignite-chiefs-passing-game-until-too-late
http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/13850/alex-smiths-failed-to-ignite-chiefs-passing-game-until-too-late
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