All Day Peterson or McFadden (1 Viewer)

[pinda]

It's pretty much a foregone conclusion that McFadden is the top RB coming out of the draft. So I was wondering from the guys that watched both play, who is the better prospect, Adrian Peterson (AD) or McFadden. I don't remember a time when back to back years had such hyped RBs coming out.

Ok so let's make some assumptions first. Adrian Peterson hasn't been drafted and you haven't seen him light up the league in his rookie year. Peterson stays one more year and comes out this current year along with McFadden.

Here are the questions:

1. Who gets drafted higher, Peterson or McFadden? Why?

2. Who will be a better pro long term?

I know it's tough to say 100% since Peterson is already drafted with a team that has a solid Oline, but entertain me here and share your thoughts.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

Maybe it's just me but Darren McFadden doesn't look like a running back. He's just too ####### tall. I've gotta go with Peterson for both questions. Sorry for the unscientific explanation.

 

[nflandboobs]

This may come off a little generic, but I think AD is the better runner, and DMAC is more well-rounded. I think DMAC will be drafted higher because of the talent coming out this year. I can't see him not being a top 5 pick.

 

[dparker713]

McFadden is great, but I would rate Peterson higher as a pure running back. He's got better size and power, and they're both exceptionally fast. From what Ive seen, McFadden doesnt have as much of an ability to make people miss, and though Peterson didn't do much receiving in college I might give him an edge there, and he certainly gets an edge in pass blocking. They both have great vision, and McFadden has the added element of having run the wildcat formation the past 2 season, effectively being an option QB for portions of the game.

An area where I have no idea about McFadden is the intangibles. And here I think Peterson is fairly off the charts. McFadden has the chance to be great, but I've always thought Peterson could turn out to be a special player.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I am a bigtime SEC homer who has been watching McFadden since he was a freshman. He's a great RB, but he's not even in the same league as AD.

 

[Slider]

I like Felix Jones more.

 

[Islander]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=346913&hl=

 

[Cookiemonster]

Peterson hype>Bush hype>McFadden hype. An excellent back-to-back-to-back set of RBs.

 

[Islander]

Peterson hype>Bush hype

Really??? I beg to differ. Not coming out of college.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Peterson hype>Bush hype

Really??? I beg to differ. Not coming out of college.

Just seems to me like Peterson was getting the special attention as a freshman that Bush was getting as a sophomore. Peterson was touted as the best combination of size/speed/power since Bo Jackson. Everyone has always wondered how Bush would translate to the pros, where with Peterson the only question was "Will he hold up?"FWIW, they were both called "Once in a decade talents," in back-to-back years.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Projected to the NFL, I would go Peterson>McFadden>Bush.

College career, I would go Bush>McFadden>Peterson.

McFadden is so much bigger and quicker than most defenders that there is a hugh disparity at the college level. In the NFL the gap between him and the defenders won't be as large and his average lateral movement will drop him below Peterson. I still like McFadden's average lateral movement and great size over Bush's great lateral movement and average size in the NFL though.

 

[EBF]

Peterson is the better back. He has the same type of speed with a better build, more power, and shiftier feet.

McFadden has a weird build for the position. I think he'll probably be a good NFL RB, but he's probably not as good as the hype would lead you to believe. He doesn't look like an NFL RB in terms of body type and he doesn't always flash much power or lateral quickness. A lot of his big plays are just straight line runs that are set up by the team's tricky offensive scheme.

Felix Jones is closer to the prototypical NFL RB than McFadden is. He's short and stocky with the shiftiness that kills. I like him a lot and think he could be a first round pick and maybe even the third RB off the board. Is he better than McFadden? I don't know, but his game fits the NFL mold.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Peterson hype>Bush hype

Really??? I beg to differ. Not coming out of college.

I look @ the hype being the pre-Thanksgiving hype. End-of-season in their respective draft years, the hype always gets blown out of proportion. I for one, was very impressed w/ McFadden last year, but thought the SEC wouldn't let him do that again. He's already exceeded my expectations of him, but I'm not calling him Bo reincarnated. Peterson on the other hand... I traded Lee Evans and two 1st round picks for the #1 overall, and would have given more. That would be about my ceiling for what I would give for McFadden.

 

[pinda]

Felix Jones is closer to the prototypical NFL RB than McFadden is. He's short and stocky with the shiftiness that kills. I like him a lot and think he could be a first round pick and maybe even the third RB off the board. Is he better than McFadden? I don't know, but his game fits the NFL mold.

I agree about Jones although they are only 2 inches and a couple of pounds apart. They don't look like they are that close in size, but I guess they are. I think his "advisors" may tell him to stick around for another year where he can be featured and showcase himself so he can get top 10 money. The difference from being the 3rd RB in the draft and a top is huge $$$$$.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

I like Felix Jones more.

Was thinking this exact thing while watching the game tonight.

 

[FavreCo]

I like Felix Jones more.

Was thinking this exact thing while watching the game tonight.

I tend to like the 5-9" to 5'-11 guys as their tend to be able to run lower and last longer.

 

[NatronIsMean]

Honestly, not very comparable IMO. As a college fan, McFadden isn't that "clear cut stud" type. Not like Ricky Williams, AP, or the others that came out as clear #1s in their draft classes. AP is leagues ahead.

 

[weasel3515]

After watching McFadden against LSU today, I'd have to say I'd draft him for sure next year. Why? Not only for his running, but for his passing which reminds me of the additional points owners get from LT. His height is deceptive, but as he slashes through defenses his 4.3 speed comes out. He makes running a sweep and getting 7 yards look like nothing. And mind you, this wasn't some terrible defense he did this to today. I own ADP for my one franchise player next year at the end of the 1st round but I am going to target McFadden somehow, perhaps 3rd round.

 

[TaxMan]

Peterson hype>Bush hype

Really??? I beg to differ. Not coming out of college.

I look @ the hype being the pre-Thanksgiving hype. End-of-season in their respective draft years, the hype always gets blown out of proportion. I for one, was very impressed w/ McFadden last year, but thought the SEC wouldn't let him do that again. He's already exceeded my expectations of him, but I'm not calling him Bo reincarnated. Peterson on the other hand... I traded Lee Evans and two 1st round picks for the #1 overall, and would have given more. That would be about my ceiling for what I would give for McFadden.

I traded Carson Palmer and a very possible top-4 pick in 2008 for Matt Schaub, first pick in 2008 rookie draft (McFadden) and a 3rd rounder

 

[super sleeper]

I think that McFadden is more reminiscent of Bush coming out of college than Peterson, not because they are similar players, but because both are not traditional workhorse backs in the sense that an ADP or LT were coming into the league. The team that drafts McFadden will be able to use him in so many different ways, as a runner, passer, and receiver. He'll keep Ds guessing, which makes him valuable even when he doesn't have the ball.

As far as who I'd rather have, or who would be drafted higher, I think McFadden is more intriguing as a prospect because of the potential to revolutionize an offense and deliver on what we were promised to get from Bush, a multiple threat that opposing teams have to game plan for.

 

[gianmarco]

Projected to the NFL, I would go Peterson>McFadden>Bush. College career, I would go Bush>McFadden>Peterson.McFadden is so much bigger and quicker than most defenders that there is a hugh disparity at the college level. In the NFL the gap between him and the defenders won't be as large and his average lateral movement will drop him below Peterson. I still like McFadden's average lateral movement and great size over Bush's great lateral movement and average size in the NFL though.

Peterson is the better back. He has the same type of speed with a better build, more power, and shiftier feet. McFadden has a weird build for the position. I think he'll probably be a good NFL RB, but he's probably not as good as the hype would lead you to believe. He doesn't look like an NFL RB in terms of body type and he doesn't always flash much power or lateral quickness. A lot of his big plays are just straight line runs that are set up by the team's tricky offensive scheme. Felix Jones is closer to the prototypical NFL RB than McFadden is. He's short and stocky with the shiftiness that kills. I like him a lot and think he could be a first round pick and maybe even the third RB off the board. Is he better than McFadden? I don't know, but his game fits the NFL mold.

These 2 posts are dead-on, I think. I've been a big fan of McFadden since I first saw him a few years ago and I think he has the potential to do well. That being said, there was no question that Peterson was going to be elite. McFadden is just the next #1 that is being hyped and I think he's going to do pretty well if he lands in a good spot, but LT or AP he's not. The comments above about college career for NFL career sums it up. A lot of people think the hype for these #1 guys is here every year and is a big reason why some dismissed AP. Yes, the hype was there for Ronnie Brown and Cadillac and Bush and now McFadden. But a lot of that was because of their studly college careers and was the "mainstream" stuff that you see Sportscenter little specials on. However, when it came to Peterson, the "real" hype came from virtually every NFL scout who saw him and claimed we were looking at the best RB prospect to come out since the likes of OJ or Bo Jackson. Different hype from different people. While some are calling McFadden another once in a decade talent, it's not the same as what we heard about AP and probably rightly so. He'll still be good, but he's no AP.

 

[SSOG]

I think McFadden will have a longer career than Peterson, though. Just seems to be better at avoiding hits and injuries.

 

[bonesman]

College Homers?!

Am I the only one that finds that amusing?

 

[Intergalactic Kegger]

Peterson hype>Bush hype

Really??? I beg to differ. Not coming out of college.

I agree. I've never seen any football player come out of college with more hype than Reggie Bush. This kid lined up like 6-10 major endorsement deals and had his face plastered everywhere before he ever took a snap at the pro level. It was unreal. Maybe Bush is a good RB for PPR fantasy leagues, but that's not exactly what we were being sold here.

 

[Stealthycat]

did anyone watch the game last night ? a top run defense and he goes off for

ATT YDS TD LG

McFadden 32 206 3 73

CP/AT YDS TD INT

McFadden 3/6 34 1 0

KICKOFF RETURNS

NO AVG TD LG

McFadden 3 16.3 0 19

259 yards of total offense, he scores 4 TD's, he's fast, hammers hard, he's big, tough, can play 75% of the offensive plays .... the guy is a BEAST

 

[Stealthycat]

he doesn't always flash much power or lateral quickness. A lot of his big plays are just straight line runs that are set up by the team's tricky offensive scheme.

first, he can BLAST around the outside, he's got 4.3/4.4 speed, and second, Houston Nutt doesn't have a tricky offensive play in his book !!

 

[yellowdog]

Maybe it's just me but Darren McFadden doesn't look like a running back. He's just too ####### tall. I've gotta go with Peterson for both questions. Sorry for the unscientific explanation.

You would've said the same thing about this guy.

 

[3C's]

Maybe it's just me but Darren McFadden doesn't look like a running back. He's just too ####### tall. I've gotta go with Peterson for both questions. Sorry for the unscientific explanation.

Barely taller than Peterson. A little lighter (skinny) though.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Arkansas Rushing

CAR YDS AVG TD LG

D. McFadden 32 206 6.4 3 73

P. Hillis 11 89 8.1 2 65

F. Jones 9 85 9.4 0 31

L. Crawford 1 5 5.0 0 5

Team 53 385 7.3 5 73

I'm going to assume at least some of DM's production is due to the offensive line and/or schemes Arkansas runs. If he doesn't end up with an NFL team with a good offensive line he may not reach the heights AP has shown so far.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Maybe it's just me but Darren McFadden doesn't look like a running back. He's just too ####### tall. I've gotta go with Peterson for both questions. Sorry for the unscientific explanation.

Barely taller than Peterson. A little lighter (skinny) though.

Isn't he only like 19 or 20 years old? The boy still has some room to grow. But lets be honest here, you really can't compare anyone to ADP. It just isn't fair.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Very interestin thread... I did one myself where I compared Bush / ADP / #1 Rookie pick in 08... see here http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...p;#entry7762546

When you caompare the 3, you also need to take into account the NFL teams that their on... ADP is on a run happy / Great Run O-Line team which allows him to use his talents to the fulliest.

Bush is on a Pass happy offense which also allows him to use his Pass Catching ability. The Run Blocking isn't so much there.

Now with DMac, we need to see which team he lands on... if he lands on a real Bad team, then he could dissapoint for a couple of yrs. I notice that he has a Great O-line in front of him now... but man he has a very upright run style which makes him look like Brandon Jacobs out there.

ADP is in a Great situation in Minny and he by far and away the best option out of the 3; and hes proven that he his the hype... if you own the #1 rookie pick next yr and someone coughns up ADP for it... take it.

 

[2323]

i believe dmac will be dissapointing in the nfl. he does not have a rb style, he runs like a wr. right now he is purely relying on his speed and not rb ability. if both dmac and jonathan stewart are available - i take stewart.

 

[derek245583]

When I look at RBs i like to not only see how they run but how they finish off the run.

If anyone watched the game yesterday, they would have seen the way McFadden finishes his runs off. He just falls down. It almost looked like he was trying to avoid injury. People would grab him high and he would sorta take his own feet out from under him and just fall down.

When I watch RBs in the NFL like LT2, LJ, AD, etc. they finish off the run by plowing forward for another yard or two after contact.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

After watching McFadden against LSU today, I'd have to say I'd draft him for sure next year. Why? Not only for his running, but for his passing which reminds me of the additional points owners get from LT. His height is deceptive, but as he slashes through defenses his 4.3 speed comes out. He makes running a sweep and getting 7 yards look like nothing. And mind you, this wasn't some terrible defense he did this to today. I own ADP for my one franchise player next year at the end of the 1st round but I am going to target McFadden somehow, perhaps 3rd round.

If that was 4.3 speed, then the DB from LSU runs a 3.9!!

 

[Mr. Peterson]

After watching McFadden against LSU today, I'd have to say I'd draft him for sure next year. Why? Not only for his running, but for his passing which reminds me of the additional points owners get from LT. His height is deceptive, but as he slashes through defenses his 4.3 speed comes out. He makes running a sweep and getting 7 yards look like nothing. And mind you, this wasn't some terrible defense he did this to today. I own ADP for my one franchise player next year at the end of the 1st round but I am going to target McFadden somehow, perhaps 3rd round.

If that was 4.3 speed, then the DB from LSU runs a 3.9!!

Yeah, he got caught quickly. McFadden is probably more of a 4.4 - 4.5 type of speed. I'll call it a 4.42.

 

[Duke1948]

After watching McFadden against LSU today, I'd have to say I'd draft him for sure next year. Why? Not only for his running, but for his passing which reminds me of the additional points owners get from LT. His height is deceptive, but as he slashes through defenses his 4.3 speed comes out. He makes running a sweep and getting 7 yards look like nothing. And mind you, this wasn't some terrible defense he did this to today. I own ADP for my one franchise player next year at the end of the 1st round but I am going to target McFadden somehow, perhaps 3rd round.

If that was 4.3 speed, then the DB from LSU runs a 3.9!!

the football weighs 10 lbs.....sort of amusing reading what you think he will do in the pros.....he doesn't have the moves, he doesn't hit people,he doesn't have a RB style(?), he runs like a WR, he doesn't do this, he doesn't do that......

if he can run for 200 yds on probably the best rush D in college football.....that's all i need.

if you knew all that you think you know, you wouldn't be playing fantasy football.

 

[yellowdog]

i believe dmac will be dissapointing in the nfl. he does not have a rb style, he runs like a wr. right now he is purely relying on his speed and not rb ability. if both dmac and jonathan stewart are available - i take stewart.

Watch out! The person drafting next may try to kiss you!

 

[kremenull]

Peterson is the better back. He has the same type of speed with a better build, more power, and shiftier feet. McFadden has a weird build for the position. I think he'll probably be a good NFL RB, but he's probably not as good as the hype would lead you to believe. He doesn't look like an NFL RB in terms of body type and he doesn't always flash much power or lateral quickness. A lot of his big plays are just straight line runs that are set up by the team's tricky offensive scheme. Felix Jones is closer to the prototypical NFL RB than McFadden is. He's short and stocky with the shiftiness that kills. I like him a lot and think he could be a first round pick and maybe even the third RB off the board. Is he better than McFadden? I don't know, but his game fits the NFL mold.

You guys are ludicrous to think that Jones will be better than McFadden........McFadden is a CAN'T MISS SUPERSTAR in waiting....I'm sure hoping that the Jets, Dolphins, and whoever else are believing what you guys are saying and pass on him so that my Raiders can get him and watch him electrify stadiums week in and week out. Jones is very good as well, but not as good as this kid, not even close.McFadden has the frame to add 10-15 lbs very easily and I believe that he is already bigger than his listed weight of 205, more likely 210-212 right now. When he reaches 220+, at 6'2", you will see Dickerson/O.J./"AD" re-incarnated. He could end up being just as good as Peterson, I would not be surprised......

 

[kremenull]

After watching McFadden against LSU today, I'd have to say I'd draft him for sure next year. Why? Not only for his running, but for his passing which reminds me of the additional points owners get from LT. His height is deceptive, but as he slashes through defenses his 4.3 speed comes out. He makes running a sweep and getting 7 yards look like nothing. And mind you, this wasn't some terrible defense he did this to today. I own ADP for my one franchise player next year at the end of the 1st round but I am going to target McFadden somehow, perhaps 3rd round.

If that was 4.3 speed, then the DB from LSU runs a 3.9!!

Boy, keep these ridiculous posts coming, so I can keep setting them straight........Let me briefly explain something.....There is no doubt that McFadden is VERY fast, and ultra-quick. A 4.3 right along Peterson's, or faster is a done deal at the combine. Consider this for a moment.......RBs, especially workhorses like McFadden, at this point of the season have had like 200+ carries and taken quite a pounding........What does that mean?......Well, if you follow the natural process of thinking here, it means that his body is more than likely worn down some at this point while this DB who was tracking him down (with a bit of an angle, I might add) is probably very fast as well but doesn't have 250-290 lb assassins pummeling him on every play. So McFadden isn't going to run a 4.3 on EVERY single play given this workload and punishment toll.......comprende muchachos?

I saw all I needed to see on that run....the dynamite burst through the hole and quick bounce to the sidelines just to get into position to make such an electric run.........And yes, LSU does have great speed on defense as well....

 

[BigTex]

I missed out on AD last year, only climbing up to the #2 spot..........I won't miss out on DMac.

 

[Gerg73]

While I like McFadden, I think the SYSTEM he played in HAS to be taken into account. Think of his 76 yard TD run....it was from the QB position. I'd venture to say that MOST of his big runs come out of that Wild Hog Formation.

I don't think we're goinmg to see his NFL Teram run that formation very much. I've NEVER been impressed with his power. He can hit the corner and take it to the house at anytime though. So he's intrigueing, but not a sure thing in my mind.

When you look at the days his Teamates Jones and Hillis had against the same Defense, it has to make you wonder.

Could Felix Jones have had as many yards with 32 carries? I think he would've had as many as McFadden had.

My FAVORITE RB for the 2008 draft is Jonathan Stewart as mentioned before in this thread. Wat6ch where he gets drafted. He will be the NFL Rookie of the Year in 2008 and a top 15 pick after he BLOWS UP at the combine at 230 pounds.

Think Ronnie Brown!

 

[AussieOyOyOy]

After watching McFadden against LSU today, I'd have to say I'd draft him for sure next year. Why? Not only for his running, but for his passing which reminds me of the additional points owners get from LT. His height is deceptive, but as he slashes through defenses his 4.3 speed comes out. He makes running a sweep and getting 7 yards look like nothing. And mind you, this wasn't some terrible defense he did this to today. I own ADP for my one franchise player next year at the end of the 1st round but I am going to target McFadden somehow, perhaps 3rd round.

If that was 4.3 speed, then the DB from LSU runs a 3.9!!

Boy, keep these ridiculous posts coming, so I can keep setting them straight........Let me briefly explain something.....There is no doubt that McFadden is VERY fast, and ultra-quick. A 4.3 right along Peterson's, or faster is a done deal at the combine. Consider this for a moment.......RBs, especially workhorses like McFadden, at this point of the season have had like 200+ carries and taken quite a pounding........What does that mean?......Well, if you follow the natural process of thinking here, it means that his body is more than likely worn down some at this point while this DB who was tracking him down (with a bit of an angle, I might add) is probably very fast as well but doesn't have 250-290 lb assassins pummeling him on every play. So McFadden isn't going to run a 4.3 on EVERY single play given this workload and punishment toll.......comprende muchachos?

I saw all I needed to see on that run....the dynamite burst through the hole and quick bounce to the sidelines just to get into position to make such an electric run.........And yes, LSU does have great speed on defense as well....

Take it from a homer that has seen all of his college carries. AD was run down a few times in college. Hell, a Texas DB with no angle just flat ran him down from behind in his freshman year. But there are certainly no questions about AD's speed. Football plays aren't olympic sprints. There are many more variables.

 

[Stealthycat]

I live in Arkansas, I've watched DMAC for 3 years.

We have one of the WORST passing games in DIV I football. DMAC was a Heisman runnerup last year, he caught teams by surprise a bit. We haven't got an offensive coordinator to ammount to anything, Nutt run him to Tulsa in the off season, run our all american QB to SCAL as well as our top WR recruit.

SEC teams line up to STOP DMAC - stop him, you win against Arkansas most of the time.

LSU didn't do it, and they tried all night. LSU coach said he put 2 guys on DMAC and they "held" him to 240 all purpose yards and 4 TD's

look into WHO McFadden is and what he's done ........ its amazing, and BTW he's ahead of Bo Jackson now in yards total in the SEC, not bad company huh ?

 

[CravenM]

McFadden = Chris Brown, Titans

Tall, fast, likes to take on LB head-to-head = oft injured

 

[SproutDaddy]

I think McFadden will have a longer career than Peterson, though. Just seems to be better at avoiding hits and injuries.

I traded out of the #1 pick this past year in a dynasty rookie draft. Was able to trade back into the #2 to take Johnson. It was pretty easy having 2 Oklahoma homers in the league. There's been a big stir on our message board dealing with who was the better pick, AD or CJ. I took the opportunity to better my team with the position that I was in. Ultimately, I still like CJ as the better pick. There was no doubt in my mind that AD would be awesome, but he has that history of going down. Johnson has nothing but room to improve. Rarely do WR make noise their first year, especially underclassmen. IMO, McFadden will be better simply for the fact that he isn't as brittle. Then again, I'm an SEC homer.

 

[Horses Mouth]

I think McFadden will have a longer career than Peterson, though. Just seems to be better at avoiding hits and injuries.

I traded out of the #1 pick this past year in a dynasty rookie draft. Was able to trade back into the #2 to take Johnson. It was pretty easy having 2 Oklahoma homers in the league. There's been a big stir on our message board dealing with who was the better pick, AD or CJ. I took the opportunity to better my team with the position that I was in. Ultimately, I still like CJ as the better pick. There was no doubt in my mind that AD would be awesome, but he has that history of going down. Johnson has nothing but room to improve. Rarely do WR make noise their first year, especially underclassmen. IMO, McFadden will be better simply for the fact that he isn't as brittle. Then again, I'm an SEC homer.

talk about trying to make yourself feel better about passing on AD for CJ. it stings, doesn't it?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I think McFadden will have a longer career than Peterson, though. Just seems to be better at avoiding hits and injuries.

McFadden dislocated his toe and missed playing time after an "incident" at a night club so I might not put any money behind that guess. McFadden is going to be a fine back IMO, I just don't think he's going to be special like Peterson.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I think McFadden will have a longer career than Peterson, though. Just seems to be better at avoiding hits and injuries.

I traded out of the #1 pick this past year in a dynasty rookie draft. Was able to trade back into the #2 to take Johnson. It was pretty easy having 2 Oklahoma homers in the league. There's been a big stir on our message board dealing with who was the better pick, AD or CJ. I took the opportunity to better my team with the position that I was in. Ultimately, I still like CJ as the better pick. There was no doubt in my mind that AD would be awesome, but he has that history of going down. Johnson has nothing but room to improve. Rarely do WR make noise their first year, especially underclassmen. IMO, McFadden will be better simply for the fact that he isn't as brittle. Then again, I'm an SEC homer.

talk about trying to make yourself feel better about passing on AD for CJ. it stings, doesn't it?

lol. He'll be crying for years.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I would be very happy to land one of them next season.... I would be with my team if I had both

 

[LessThanZero]

I missed out on AD last year, only climbing up to the #2 spot..........I won't miss out on DMac.

I traded Frank Gore away for the #2 pick (#1 took CJ due to desperate WR need), Colston and Ronnie Brown, who I traded away around week 4 to the worst team in the league for his 2008 first, so I'll probably end up with McFadden and ADP Plus my terrible season (thanks for that first half, Drew Brees ) means my first rounder will also probably be top 6 or so.As for the OP's question, I'd be tempted to agree with those saying ADP > McFadden > Bush. I think it's early to tag ADP as a serious injury risk. He seems to be recovering for the LCL quickly, and the collarbone in college is really not an injury-risk type of injury. I think the bigger reason to be wary of him as an injury risk is his running style -- I know some people will hate this, but he really does make me nervous when he fights so hard for every yard. He reminds me of a QB that never slides to protect himself. That said, he's such a special talent that I'd rather have him than McFadden or Bush in all but the weirdest of FF scoring formats. I say that taking into account that we've already seen Bush and ADP in the NFL, because it's pretty impossible not to take that into account. But I went after ADP really hard before our rookie draft. I got a great deal for him (Gore for ADP/Colston/Ronnie Brown), but that was a combination of negotiation, situation, and the fact that both of us highly valued Gore. I'd have traded Gore for just ADP and Colston though if I'd had to to get the deal done though, I valued him that much before the season. I just don't see McFadden or Bush being quite that unique, although I think they'll both be good RBs, possibly even career studs (Bush particularly in PPR leagues).