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You keep bringing up his long TD's. I dont think anyone is expecting Jackson to have that many again. I just think he will catch more passes and more "short" TD's. He will still have his share of long TD's, he is the most expolsive WR in the league.

That's cool, I just disagree and I think Maclin overtakes him as WR1 by 2011.

 
Joe T said:
RB - Marion Barber

Barber is now the Cowboys number 2 option at RB. He is currently ranked as the #41 RB in the top 300 and went at 7.06 in the FBG PPR Staff draft. That seems way too high for a guy with so little upside. Even if something happens to F. Jones this year, Barber still has Tashard Choice to deal with. Barber seemed to lose a step last year and was already lacking in speed. He's a guy I would pass on if drafted anywhere in the top 10 rounds. He's the kind of guy who is on his way down in his career and is the kind of guy that will add nothing to your lineup.

WR - Percy Harvin

Harvin had a great rookie season. He went 4.04 in the FBG Staff PPR draft and is ranked as the #17 ranked WR in the top 300. He is not a terrible stretch here, but with so many other options on the Vikings his upside is limited. He finished at about WR 25 last year in PPR leagues. Given that he had a great rookie season and still finished around the #25 WR, how much higher than that can he go? Not much without changes in the Vikings pecking order. Taking him in the fourth round is too high.
Good thread that should generate discussion.I couldnt disagree more about MBIII though. I think he is seriously Undervalued at RB41. Playing last year with a significant quad injury Barber still averaged a more than respectable 4.4 ypc. Early indications are that he looks lighter and quicker this year and, at 27, I think it's pre-mature to say he is on the downside of his career. This is a guy who has had 46 TDs the last 4 years, plays in an offense that will create plenty of scoring opportunities, and is still likely to be the best option at the GL. To say he has little upside and is the kind of guy that will add nothing to your lineup is ridiculous IMO.
Not to mention that Felix hasn't played all 16 in either of his first two seasons and is already having knee swelling issues this summer. I see Choice as 3rd in the pecking order if Barber is healthy. Barber could be a steal at that position if Felix's knee continues to be troublesome. Sure, Barber has had his own injury issues, but at this point headed into the 2010 season I think you have to rate Felix as the bigger injury risk.
Based on their running styles, i dont think this is true.

 
Bowe as a fantasy WR2 is about as overrated as I have seen this season. Chambers and McCluster will make things difficult for him to be startable, imo, many weeks.
Bowe could end up with #2 WR numbers but it depends on how the Cheifs do. He is painful to watch as a fantasy player. He always seems to be entering the 4th qtr with 2 catches for 13 yards, then on the final 2 drives when the Cheifs are down he gets another 40 yards and a TD under the 2 minute warning.
 
I saw Tom Brady mentioned and I have to ask why. He put up 4400/28 last year after missing a full season recovering from major knee surgery and playing with shoulder, rib, and finger injuries (broken ribs and broken finger).

 
I saw Tom Brady mentioned and I have to ask why. He put up 4400/28 last year after missing a full season recovering from major knee surgery and playing with shoulder, rib, and finger injuries (broken ribs and broken finger).
I think it's more "gut" than anything. I think people are perceiving the Pats as a dynasty in the decline. It's subtle/unsubstantiated/rumor things. Tom seems to be more focused on family and southern Cal than on being the best QB in the league. Randy has started to resemble the old "I take plays off" Moss. Is the Defense going to be any better this season or are they still a season or two away from being a cohesive unit like we got used to? How much is the drop off from Good.Moss+Quick.Welker to Bad.Moss+Edelman or Bad.Moss+Gimpy.Welker?I'm not saying I buy into it, but I think enough whispers have circulated that people are starting to get a little uncomfortable and want to hedge on Brady a bit.
 
WR-Randy Moss. Just don't like the effort he exhibits and he's starting to reach that age where many WRs start to slide. Just don't think he deserves to be the second WR drafted in redrafts.

RB-Steven Jackson-he's a beast but taken a beating on a team that is going to continue to struggle. He's likely going to be available when I pick 12th in my redraft and I'm going to pass.
That's insane. He's never been worse than RB12 since the first season when he was no longer just Faulk's handcuff, and that's even when he misses his average of 2 games per year. He played on a HISTORICALLY bad offense last year...175 points is incredibly difficult to do in the modern era, and he'll be used heavy this year a la Michael Turner. Atlanta wrote the book on bringing in a rookie QB, STL has some receivers with talent (Burton possession and Avery deep threat, Gilyard could do slot this year perhaps) enough to score closer to the middle of the pack as a team this year. I'm sure the career low in TDs will come up, but even if it doesn't, he's still a top 5 RB option every single week you start him. If I knew I could get him at the turn, I would be all over pick 10 (I don't like the ends, so 10 is where I'd go anyway)
Must be a difference in league scopring rules-In our PPR league scoring with bonuses for over 100 yards Jackson has finished in the following spot among RB's :2009 9th

2007 14th

2008 15th

2006 2nd

In a league where all TDs are 6pts unless I believe he's going to revert back to his 2006 output, he doesn't deserve to be taken at the 12 spot. 3 QB's and at least 1 WR will be taken before my pick. I will either go WR-WR or take a RB from a team who has a shot at winning their division. Such as Benson(depending on his suspension status), Mathews(whats he going to look like in the preseason?), etc.

 
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Having a hard time understanding all the Kolb hate.....in a recent draft in the mock draft forum, all of his weapons (RB, WR, TE)were gone by the 5.01 pick.....I'll take the guy throwing them the ball.....this is a pass first offense, what more could you ask for....he has been givin the keys to a sportscar....they trusted him enough to let DM go and to throw the ball a ton last year when thrown to the wolves....this dude screams fantasy production.....

overrated:

QB: Ryan

RB: Mendenhall

RB: Pierre Thomas

WR: Wayne

WR: Roddy White

WR: Michael Crabtree

TE: Zach Miller OK

 
I believe that Larry Fitzgerald is way overvalued (some have him as the #1 WR). Leinart is awful and Derek Anderson or even Skelton could be starting by season's end. Boldin is gone, which makes Breaston the #2. He is better suited as a #3/slot receiver and as a result, there will more double teams/more pressure on Fitz. The running game (while improved over recent years) is only adequate and will not keep defenses from doubling Fitz.

I recognize that Fitz is incredibly talented, but I believe his situation makes him the #7 or #8 WR.

 
Very nice analysis, Joe T. You make a good point about Crabtree being on a team that doesn't throw well. I found that unless you're dealing with an absolute stud (Andre Johnson for example) it is better to have an OK WR on a team that throws well rather than a very good WR on a team that doesn't.
HOU is a team that doesnt pass very well?
 
I believe that Larry Fitzgerald is way overvalued (some have him as the #1 WR). Leinart is awful and Derek Anderson or even Skelton could be starting by season's end. Boldin is gone, which makes Breaston the #2. He is better suited as a #3/slot receiver and as a result, there will more double teams/more pressure on Fitz. The running game (while improved over recent years) is only adequate and will not keep defenses from doubling Fitz. I recognize that Fitz is incredibly talented, but I believe his situation makes him the #7 or #8 WR.
:goodposting:
 
I'm going with Sid Rice and Miles Austin. I like them, but not as Top 5-10 WRs...
I'm actually not responding to your post. I just wanted to point out you absolutely have the best profile pic I've seen on FBG's in my 7+ years here. /salute :unsure:
 
I know it is still late July, but some players are being taken way too early in drafts. This list is subject to change as these guys will probably move up and down throughout the preseason, but as of July 27th here is my All-Overrated Team of 2010.

QB - Kevin Kolb

QB is actually the hardest position to find an overrated player. Most QB's are fairly valued, but Kolb stands out as the current best option here. In the FBG PPR staff draft Kolb went at 7.06. In the mid-July top 300 PPR list, FBG has Kolb at QB9. Some things to keep in mind is that he is filling in for McNabb who never threw for 4,000 yards in his career as an Eagle and often finished in the low 20's in TD's. Is Kolb going to do marginally better than McNabb? It is possible, but the Eagles have a declining offensive line and a limited running game. Given that Kolb is also entering his first year as a starter, why would he be drafted or ranked ahead of Eli Manning who through for over 4,000 yards last year and 27 TD's. E. Manning is entering the prime of his career, but is ranked lower than Kolb. It doesn't make a lot of sense. I like Kolb and think he will be good, just odds are he won't live up to his current ranking of QB 9. Even if you do not want to draft E. Manning, you could wait and still get guys like Favre, Flacco, or Ryan in the 9th round who will likely have similar or better numbers than Kolb.

RB - Knowshon Moreno

Moreno was drafted at 3.11 in the FBG PPR Staff draft earlier this month and is ranked at RB11 in the FBG PPR top 300. Moreno finished with roughly 950 rushing yards and 250 receiving yards and 9 TD's in his rookie year. Those numbers are not terrible, but why would he move up from around RB20 where he finished last year all the way to number 11? He had zero games with 100 yards rushing last year which is pretty hard to do. He also averaged just 3.8 yards per carry. At RB11, he seems too high. There is much better value to be had later.

RB - Marion Barber

Barber is now the Cowboys number 2 option at RB. He is currently ranked as the #41 RB in the top 300 and went at 7.06 in the FBG PPR Staff draft. That seems way too high for a guy with so little upside. Even if something happens to F. Jones this year, Barber still has Tashard Choice to deal with. Barber seemed to lose a step last year and was already lacking in speed. He's a guy I would pass on if drafted anywhere in the top 10 rounds. He's the kind of guy who is on his way down in his career and is the kind of guy that will add nothing to your lineup.

WR - Michael Crabtree

Crabtree is the #1 Overrated player so far this preseason. He finished 2009 averaging just 9.8 PPG in PPR leagues. Is the fact that he is making his first full training camp vaulting him up the rankings? He was drafted 3.06 in the FBG Staff PPR league and is ranked as WR22 in the top 300. He is a decent talent on a team that can't throw the ball very well. If you are taking him in the 3rd round of a draft you need WR1 like production out of a guy that likely will end up being a mediocre #2 WR on most fantasy teams. There are so many better guys you can get in the 5th and 6th rounds that make taking Crabtree in the 3rd a waste.

WR - Percy Harvin

Harvin had a great rookie season. He went 4.04 in the FBG Staff PPR draft and is ranked as the #17 ranked WR in the top 300. He is not a terrible stretch here, but with so many other options on the Vikings his upside is limited. He finished at about WR 25 last year in PPR leagues. Given that he had a great rookie season and still finished around the #25 WR, how much higher than that can he go? Not much without changes in the Vikings pecking order. Taking him in the fourth round is too high.

WR - Dez Bryant

Drafted at 5.02 in the FBG PPR Staff league and is ranked as WR 36 in the FBG top 300. He is a rookie on a team loaded with offensive weapons. No doubt that he is a massive talent and getting into training camp early will help him. But rookie WR's tend to struggle AND there just aren't enough footballs to go around in Dallas to give Bryant a chance to perform that highly. In the fifth round, there are way too many solid guys out there to go after an unproven rookie WR.
Is it too early for a :goodposting: ?

 
I somehow must have missed the comments on McNabb before, but the Eagles as a team have thrown for over 4000 yards in 5 of the past 6 seasons. The only reason McNabb never hit that mark was due to constant nagging injury.

 
I know it is still late July, but some players are being taken way too early in drafts. This list is subject to change as these guys will probably move up and down throughout the preseason, but as of July 27th here is my All-Overrated Team of 2010.

QB - Kevin Kolb

QB is actually the hardest position to find an overrated player. Most QB's are fairly valued, but Kolb stands out as the current best option here. In the FBG PPR staff draft Kolb went at 7.06. In the mid-July top 300 PPR list, FBG has Kolb at QB9. Some things to keep in mind is that he is filling in for McNabb who never threw for 4,000 yards in his career as an Eagle and often finished in the low 20's in TD's. Is Kolb going to do marginally better than McNabb? It is possible, but the Eagles have a declining offensive line and a limited running game. Given that Kolb is also entering his first year as a starter, why would he be drafted or ranked ahead of Eli Manning who through for over 4,000 yards last year and 27 TD's. E. Manning is entering the prime of his career, but is ranked lower than Kolb. It doesn't make a lot of sense. I like Kolb and think he will be good, just odds are he won't live up to his current ranking of QB 9. Even if you do not want to draft E. Manning, you could wait and still get guys like Favre, Flacco, or Ryan in the 9th round who will likely have similar or better numbers than Kolb.

RB - Knowshon Moreno

Moreno was drafted at 3.11 in the FBG PPR Staff draft earlier this month and is ranked at RB11 in the FBG PPR top 300. Moreno finished with roughly 950 rushing yards and 250 receiving yards and 9 TD's in his rookie year. Those numbers are not terrible, but why would he move up from around RB20 where he finished last year all the way to number 11? He had zero games with 100 yards rushing last year which is pretty hard to do. He also averaged just 3.8 yards per carry. At RB11, he seems too high. There is much better value to be had later.

RB - Marion Barber

Barber is now the Cowboys number 2 option at RB. He is currently ranked as the #41 RB in the top 300 and went at 7.06 in the FBG PPR Staff draft. That seems way too high for a guy with so little upside. Even if something happens to F. Jones this year, Barber still has Tashard Choice to deal with. Barber seemed to lose a step last year and was already lacking in speed. He's a guy I would pass on if drafted anywhere in the top 10 rounds. He's the kind of guy who is on his way down in his career and is the kind of guy that will add nothing to your lineup.

WR - Michael Crabtree

Crabtree is the #1 Overrated player so far this preseason. He finished 2009 averaging just 9.8 PPG in PPR leagues. Is the fact that he is making his first full training camp vaulting him up the rankings? He was drafted 3.06 in the FBG Staff PPR league and is ranked as WR22 in the top 300. He is a decent talent on a team that can't throw the ball very well. If you are taking him in the 3rd round of a draft you need WR1 like production out of a guy that likely will end up being a mediocre #2 WR on most fantasy teams. There are so many better guys you can get in the 5th and 6th rounds that make taking Crabtree in the 3rd a waste.

WR - Percy Harvin

Harvin had a great rookie season. He went 4.04 in the FBG Staff PPR draft and is ranked as the #17 ranked WR in the top 300. He is not a terrible stretch here, but with so many other options on the Vikings his upside is limited. He finished at about WR 25 last year in PPR leagues. Given that he had a great rookie season and still finished around the #25 WR, how much higher than that can he go? Not much without changes in the Vikings pecking order. Taking him in the fourth round is too high.

WR - Dez Bryant

Drafted at 5.02 in the FBG PPR Staff league and is ranked as WR 36 in the FBG top 300. He is a rookie on a team loaded with offensive weapons. No doubt that he is a massive talent and getting into training camp early will help him. But rookie WR's tend to struggle AND there just aren't enough footballs to go around in Dallas to give Bryant a chance to perform that highly. In the fifth round, there are way too many solid guys out there to go after an unproven rookie WR.
Is it too early for a :shrug: ?
Yes.....especially on Dez and Percy.

And, you can't :no: yourself. Bad form.

 
David Yudkin said:
I somehow must have missed the comments on McNabb before, but the Eagles as a team have thrown for over 4000 yards in 5 of the past 6 seasons. The only reason McNabb never hit that mark was due to constant nagging injury.
Even more reason not to have drafted Kolb. :thumbup:
 
I know it is still late July, but some players are being taken way too early in drafts. This list is subject to change as these guys will probably move up and down throughout the preseason, but as of July 27th here is my All-Overrated Team of 2010.

QB - Kevin Kolb

QB is actually the hardest position to find an overrated player. Most QB's are fairly valued, but Kolb stands out as the current best option here. In the FBG PPR staff draft Kolb went at 7.06. In the mid-July top 300 PPR list, FBG has Kolb at QB9. Some things to keep in mind is that he is filling in for McNabb who never threw for 4,000 yards in his career as an Eagle and often finished in the low 20's in TD's. Is Kolb going to do marginally better than McNabb? It is possible, but the Eagles have a declining offensive line and a limited running game. Given that Kolb is also entering his first year as a starter, why would he be drafted or ranked ahead of Eli Manning who through for over 4,000 yards last year and 27 TD's. E. Manning is entering the prime of his career, but is ranked lower than Kolb. It doesn't make a lot of sense. I like Kolb and think he will be good, just odds are he won't live up to his current ranking of QB 9. Even if you do not want to draft E. Manning, you could wait and still get guys like Favre, Flacco, or Ryan in the 9th round who will likely have similar or better numbers than Kolb.

RB - Knowshon Moreno

Moreno was drafted at 3.11 in the FBG PPR Staff draft earlier this month and is ranked at RB11 in the FBG PPR top 300. Moreno finished with roughly 950 rushing yards and 250 receiving yards and 9 TD's in his rookie year. Those numbers are not terrible, but why would he move up from around RB20 where he finished last year all the way to number 11? He had zero games with 100 yards rushing last year which is pretty hard to do. He also averaged just 3.8 yards per carry. At RB11, he seems too high. There is much better value to be had later.

RB - Marion Barber

Barber is now the Cowboys number 2 option at RB. He is currently ranked as the #41 RB in the top 300 and went at 7.06 in the FBG PPR Staff draft. That seems way too high for a guy with so little upside. Even if something happens to F. Jones this year, Barber still has Tashard Choice to deal with. Barber seemed to lose a step last year and was already lacking in speed. He's a guy I would pass on if drafted anywhere in the top 10 rounds. He's the kind of guy who is on his way down in his career and is the kind of guy that will add nothing to your lineup.

WR - Michael Crabtree

Crabtree is the #1 Overrated player so far this preseason. He finished 2009 averaging just 9.8 PPG in PPR leagues. Is the fact that he is making his first full training camp vaulting him up the rankings? He was drafted 3.06 in the FBG Staff PPR league and is ranked as WR22 in the top 300. He is a decent talent on a team that can't throw the ball very well. If you are taking him in the 3rd round of a draft you need WR1 like production out of a guy that likely will end up being a mediocre #2 WR on most fantasy teams. There are so many better guys you can get in the 5th and 6th rounds that make taking Crabtree in the 3rd a waste.

WR - Percy Harvin

Harvin had a great rookie season. He went 4.04 in the FBG Staff PPR draft and is ranked as the #17 ranked WR in the top 300. He is not a terrible stretch here, but with so many other options on the Vikings his upside is limited. He finished at about WR 25 last year in PPR leagues. Given that he had a great rookie season and still finished around the #25 WR, how much higher than that can he go? Not much without changes in the Vikings pecking order. Taking him in the fourth round is too high.

WR - Dez Bryant

Drafted at 5.02 in the FBG PPR Staff league and is ranked as WR 36 in the FBG top 300. He is a rookie on a team loaded with offensive weapons. No doubt that he is a massive talent and getting into training camp early will help him. But rookie WR's tend to struggle AND there just aren't enough footballs to go around in Dallas to give Bryant a chance to perform that highly. In the fifth round, there are way too many solid guys out there to go after an unproven rookie WR.
bump. Did I get all 6 here?
 
Did Moreno really go around RB11 in most drafts? He seemed to go around RB20 or so in most drafts I was in or checked out, and that is about where he is ranked in most, so I'd say he was about as good as he should have been (especially a PPG average, considering he missed a few games early in the season). Just wondering...

 
I know it is still late July, but some players are being taken way too early in drafts. This list is subject to change as these guys will probably move up and down throughout the preseason, but as of July 27th here is my All-Overrated Team of 2010.

QB - Kevin Kolb

QB is actually the hardest position to find an overrated player. Most QB's are fairly valued, but Kolb stands out as the current best option here. In the FBG PPR staff draft Kolb went at 7.06. In the mid-July top 300 PPR list, FBG has Kolb at QB9. Some things to keep in mind is that he is filling in for McNabb who never threw for 4,000 yards in his career as an Eagle and often finished in the low 20's in TD's. Is Kolb going to do marginally better than McNabb? It is possible, but the Eagles have a declining offensive line and a limited running game. Given that Kolb is also entering his first year as a starter, why would he be drafted or ranked ahead of Eli Manning who through for over 4,000 yards last year and 27 TD's. E. Manning is entering the prime of his career, but is ranked lower than Kolb. It doesn't make a lot of sense. I like Kolb and think he will be good, just odds are he won't live up to his current ranking of QB 9. Even if you do not want to draft E. Manning, you could wait and still get guys like Favre, Flacco, or Ryan in the 9th round who will likely have similar or better numbers than Kolb.

RB - Knowshon Moreno

Moreno was drafted at 3.11 in the FBG PPR Staff draft earlier this month and is ranked at RB11 in the FBG PPR top 300. Moreno finished with roughly 950 rushing yards and 250 receiving yards and 9 TD's in his rookie year. Those numbers are not terrible, but why would he move up from around RB20 where he finished last year all the way to number 11? He had zero games with 100 yards rushing last year which is pretty hard to do. He also averaged just 3.8 yards per carry. At RB11, he seems too high. There is much better value to be had later.

RB - Marion Barber

Barber is now the Cowboys number 2 option at RB. He is currently ranked as the #41 RB in the top 300 and went at 7.06 in the FBG PPR Staff draft. That seems way too high for a guy with so little upside. Even if something happens to F. Jones this year, Barber still has Tashard Choice to deal with. Barber seemed to lose a step last year and was already lacking in speed. He's a guy I would pass on if drafted anywhere in the top 10 rounds. He's the kind of guy who is on his way down in his career and is the kind of guy that will add nothing to your lineup.

WR - Michael Crabtree

Crabtree is the #1 Overrated player so far this preseason. He finished 2009 averaging just 9.8 PPG in PPR leagues. Is the fact that he is making his first full training camp vaulting him up the rankings? He was drafted 3.06 in the FBG Staff PPR league and is ranked as WR22 in the top 300. He is a decent talent on a team that can't throw the ball very well. If you are taking him in the 3rd round of a draft you need WR1 like production out of a guy that likely will end up being a mediocre #2 WR on most fantasy teams. There are so many better guys you can get in the 5th and 6th rounds that make taking Crabtree in the 3rd a waste.

WR - Percy Harvin

Harvin had a great rookie season. He went 4.04 in the FBG Staff PPR draft and is ranked as the #17 ranked WR in the top 300. He is not a terrible stretch here, but with so many other options on the Vikings his upside is limited. He finished at about WR 25 last year in PPR leagues. Given that he had a great rookie season and still finished around the #25 WR, how much higher than that can he go? Not much without changes in the Vikings pecking order. Taking him in the fourth round is too high.

WR - Dez Bryant

Drafted at 5.02 in the FBG PPR Staff league and is ranked as WR 36 in the FBG top 300. He is a rookie on a team loaded with offensive weapons. No doubt that he is a massive talent and getting into training camp early will help him. But rookie WR's tend to struggle AND there just aren't enough footballs to go around in Dallas to give Bryant a chance to perform that highly. In the fifth round, there are way too many solid guys out there to go after an unproven rookie WR.
bump. Did I get all 6 here?
if you had just listed players, maybe - but your reasoning were flat out wrong on Kolb and Bryant.
 

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