AMC's "The Killing" - Season 3 (1 Viewer)

[Officer Pete Malloy]

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otherwise the lie between them about both quitting smoking, and then showing both having a cigarette in the next scenes makes no sense.

They both wanted the other to think that they were healthy and doing well.

Yeah, this. It was actually pretty obvious, Snogger.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Looks like it could be a good season

This. Really psyched about it. First episode was great.

Dude, check out Linden's legs. Her thighs are about as big around as a paper towel tube. Right up your alley.

 

[snogger]

So I just finished the first episode of season 3....

Spoiler

So that's a bunch of bodies in the water at the end? The biggest hole is obviously how did Linden suddenly find the buildings/trees/pond after 4 years? She wasn't motivated to find it earlier? Is the setup supposed to be that the Dad is the killer and he took the kid with him to the pond a bunch? I presume that isn't how it will play out.

Saarsgard is excellent in his role. (Didn't know he was married to sad turtle). HE looks familiar but seeeing his IMDB page I don't think I've seen anything he's been in. As a note, his name is "Ray Seward" for two episodes and then he become "Tom Seward" towards the end of the season with a big gap in between.

All in all, I really liked it. To be fair, I really liked the first season but didn't watch the second.

Spoiler

The previous drawings didn't have the buildings in the background. When she visited where he is living now, and was taken to his bedroom, she noticed a "new" picture and took it with her.

Seemed Linden recognized the buildings and thus headed out to an area where the buildings were, and the drawings of the woods made more sense.

as too whether that further implicates the father or not is the question

 

[snogger]

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otherwise the lie between them about both quitting smoking, and then showing both having a cigarette in the next scenes makes no sense.

They both wanted the other to think that they were healthy and doing well.

Yeah, this. It was actually pretty obvious, Snogger.

I get that..read what I was responding to understand ... I was making a point that if they weren't planning on building something between Holder and Linden then those scenes wouldn't make sense..

 

[Abraham]

So I just finished the first episode of season 3....

Spoiler

So that's a bunch of bodies in the water at the end? The biggest hole is obviously how did Linden suddenly find the buildings/trees/pond after 4 years? She wasn't motivated to find it earlier? Is the setup supposed to be that the Dad is the killer and he took the kid with him to the pond a bunch? I presume that isn't how it will play out. Saarsgard is excellent in his role. (Didn't know he was married to sad turtle). HE looks familiar but seeeing his IMDB page I don't think I've seen anything he's been in. As a note, his name is "Ray Seward" for two episodes and then he become "Tom Seward" towards the end of the season with a big gap in between.

Spoiler

All in all, I really liked it. To be fair, I really liked the first season but didn't watch the second.

Spoiler

The previous drawings didn't have the buildings in the background. When she visited where he is living now, and was taken to his bedroom, she noticed a "new" picture and took it with her. Seemed Linden recognized the buildings and thus headed out to an area where the buildings were, and the drawings of the woods made more sense. as too whether that further implicates the father or not is the question

Spoiler

so they were bodies in the water?

 

[snogger]

So I just finished the first episode of season 3....

Spoiler

So that's a bunch of bodies in the water at the end? The biggest hole is obviously how did Linden suddenly find the buildings/trees/pond after 4 years? She wasn't motivated to find it earlier? Is the setup supposed to be that the Dad is the killer and he took the kid with him to the pond a bunch? I presume that isn't how it will play out.

Saarsgard is excellent in his role. (Didn't know he was married to sad turtle). HE looks familiar but seeeing his IMDB page I don't think I've seen anything he's been in. As a note, his name is "Ray Seward" for two episodes and then he become "Tom Seward" towards the end of the season with a big gap in between.

Spoiler

All in all, I really liked it. To be fair, I really liked the first season but didn't watch the second.

Spoiler

The previous drawings didn't have the buildings in the background. When she visited where he is living now, and was taken to his bedroom, she noticed a "new" picture and took it with her.

Seemed Linden recognized the buildings and thus headed out to an area where the buildings were, and the drawings of the woods made more sense.

as too whether that further implicates the father or not is the question

Spoiler

so they were bodies in the water?

Spoiler

Yep.. here is a preview of next week

 

[Mentos]

GordonGekko is due for a post soon. Somebody please quote it before he takes it down for I am going to bed soon. Thank you

 

[simey]

Holder had me

I liked his "bobbing for apples" comment he made to the hooking street rat.

 

[snogger]

Loved Skinners look when Linden told him that his wife knows about them.

 

[snogger]

Have to say Gordon.. I tend to glance at your posts and move on as they go on for way too long and I have the attention span of a gnat ..

But in this case I enjoyed you post.

BTW.. I have to learn to pay attention more during the shows..

I couldn't figure out what the hell Seward was cutting, since it was no where near a death slice..

Had to read the Killing recap to realize he was cutting out the Tattoo.

 

[Grahamburn]

So I just finished the first episode of season 3....

Spoiler

So that's a bunch of bodies in the water at the end? The biggest hole is obviously how did Linden suddenly find the buildings/trees/pond after 4 years? She wasn't motivated to find it earlier? Is the setup supposed to be that the Dad is the killer and he took the kid with him to the pond a bunch? I presume that isn't how it will play out.

Saarsgard is excellent in his role. (Didn't know he was married to sad turtle). HE looks familiar but seeeing his IMDB page I don't think I've seen anything he's been in. As a note, his name is "Ray Seward" for two episodes and then he become "Tom Seward" towards the end of the season with a big gap in between.

Spoiler

All in all, I really liked it. To be fair, I really liked the first season but didn't watch the second.

This is the kind of stuff that annoyed me about the first couple seasons. I never felt like the detectives behaved in a rational manner.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

So that's a bunch of bodies in the water at the end? The biggest hole is obviously how did Linden suddenly find the buildings/trees/pond after 4 years? She wasn't motivated to find it earlier? Is the setup supposed to be that the Dad is the killer and he took the kid with him to the pond a bunch? I presume that isn't how it will play out.

........ I never felt like the detectives behaved in a rational manner.

Yes, the number of bodies signifies that since Linden and the Lt first closed the case, that the original killer has been still killing all of this time. Because he kills "street" children who have slipped through the cracks of the system, to mostly parents who are gone, on drugs or don't care, no one notices and no one reports them missing. If they are reported missing, no vast amount of resources are put into it.

Linden believes these killings all tie in to the original case, that was closed, and the result was Saarsgard on death row. The Lt believes or acts as if the killings now are separate, that Linden can't detach from the case personally and doesn't want to create a situation where Saarsgard can get out of execution by something Linden does or finds or theorizes.

When Linden first dealt with the child, who was locked in a room with his murdered mother, the child only drew the trees and the tree line. At the time, the picture meant nothing or could be construed several ways. One argument, I think that was discussed last season when Linden was in the psych ward was that it was coping response by the boy. When Linden visits the boy again in the S3 pilot, it's the same treeline picture, but now with houses to the side and I think a dock. Then Linden goes to try to recreate where the boy would have needed to be, to have locked in that image and want to draw it over and over again. By doing this, she searches the area and finds the bodies. It was the increased detail in the 2nd photo she found recently on the wall of the childs room that led her there.

It's implied that the case, when she was on it originally, caused her massive emotional trauma and now it's revealed she was banging the married Lieutenant at the time. In S1 or S2, she uses a resource who was a former partner that Holder figures out that she slept with. So that's two former partners that Linden has slept with. She states she had doubts about the father (Saarsgard) as the killer, but there was too much on her plate to argue it. She was also outranked and the city and the department wanted a high profile case closed.

The inference is that whether or not the father is the killer, his son was exposed enough to that area, to have memorized, even at a young age, the treeline and drew it over and over again. This implies while the father might not be the killer, it's evident he knows something he's not saying upfront right now.

His behavioral model, attacking the priest, getting close to attacking the guard, making threats, being difficult, demanding to be hanged, seems to be his way of ensuring he will die and that the death will form some type of satisfaction. His? Doubtful. Someone else? Probably. Why would a man do that? A man would do that if he thought a failure to comply and take the fall would mean his family would be killed for it. That's the only leverage the show has given, his surviving child. Clearly someone on the outside wants him dead, wants his case closed and wants the public to have no doubts that he was the killer.

The problem with procedural aspect of the show is that a genuine "redball", a high profile public case, would be serviced by an entire unit, not just a couple of detectives. The show seems to soften this some by introducing a new partner for Holder and a former partner for Linden, except both seem conveniently placed to be disposable to get any potential S4 with Linden and Holder back together out of necessity. Holder current partner is a roadblock. By the end of the season, he will be transferred, guilty, disgraced, retired or dead. This is like the Lion King and realizing Mufasa has to die for Simba to get to the point of learning to grow up. Obi Wan dies so Luke has to grow up. Sonny Corleone dies so Michael can take over the family.

Where Veena Sud is failing is the lack of other detectives and the lack of other concurrent cases. While their is a primary arc, the show does little in the way of secondary arcs and character development. This is why there are so many red herrings, to time fill.

A better example of what The Killing could be would be the BBC's Wire In The Blood. Watching Wire in the Blood shows how "gimmicky" The Killing can be at times.

Have you ever thought of doing "dates" on Seattle's skid-row?

 

[snogger]

Missed last week as we were on vacation and i forgot to set the DVR..

But after watching this weeks episode I don't feel I missed much as this week certainly felt like a "filler" episode.. aka

 

[BigJim®]

Am I hearing right that everyone on this show takes Bullet for a male? I'd always assumed Bullet was female.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Am I hearing right that everyone on this show takes Bullet for a male? I'd always assumed Bullet was female.

The character is definitely female

 

[meanjoegreen]

Am I hearing right that everyone on this show takes Bullet for a male? I'd always assumed Bullet was female.

You aren't hearing right. They know she is a female. At the beginning of the season Holder called her a slang name and referred to her as being female acting like a boy, but since they have gotten to know each other he doesn't make fun of her anymore.

 

[snogger]

Very good episode last night.

next week should be interesting as well.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

You knew that the pastor would be a total red herring. And the person stalking Bullet will probably be Callie's mom or something.

My top 3 suspects right now are:

1) Becker

2) Jack

3) Aunt Terry

I am a big fan of Gil.

 

[snogger]

Thought last nights episode was pretty good.. fully expected the pastor to kill himself when he said "Forgive me father"..

Can't believe there are only 3 more episodes to go.

 

[Tiger Fan]

this season has been very good

 

[NutterButter]

Someone fill me in on why the guy that was banging Callie's mom is no longer a suspect? It seemed like they were looking for him and then Pastor Mike came into play was the girl with the missing fingers was found.

 

[Mentos]

Someone fill me in on why the guy that was banging Callie's mom is no longer a suspect? It seemed like they were looking for him and then Pastor Mike came into play was the girl with the missing fingers was found.

Unless I missed something, they are still looking for that guy

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Someone fill me in on why the guy that was banging Callie's mom is no longer a suspect? It seemed like they were looking for him and then Pastor Mike came into play was the girl with the missing fingers was found.

Unless I missed something, they are still looking for that guy

Yes

 

[snogger]

My first thought last night was GREAT work wrapping up the Serial killer angle with two shows left, time left to tie up the Ray storyline..

But as I think about it..something has to tie it all together and there are a couple people left that I could see being part of it..

Detective Carl Reddick.. He has never liked Linden and almost seemed to be "watching" over Holder, rather then working with him.. Then he just happens to be the guy that finds the box of rings..

Also, if I recall correctly, his hand was bandaged when Holder showed up to beat the snot out of him.. he kept yelling during the beat down "I did call, I did Call".. Maybe he called Skinner who didn't forward it on...

Maybe he and Skinner are in it together??

Lastly,

Enjoyed the twist on the pastor guy who found "killing" people using his mind rather then by his hands to be just as enjoyable.

 

[Tiger Fan]

best season so far

 

[Abraham]

Can I get a recap of whodunit and what not? I've seen three of the episodes this season and enjoyed it but there is little chance I'll get to see the ones I missed.

 

[snogger]

Can I get a recap of whodunit and what not? I've seen three of the episodes this season and enjoyed it but there is little chance I'll get to see the ones I missed.

With two shows left they've hung it on the cabby, that was the missing daughters mother's Boyfriend..

Missing daughter is still missing.. Mother is either a crack whore or should be one with as many personality's as she's shown... went from.. I hate my daughter, hope she dies on the street.. To.. My daughter is missing, I love her and miss her so much ..

Ray is still scheduled to hang.. Guard in prison who's wife was cheating on him got called home as his son killed the mothers boyfriend..

Pastor on Death Row was a Lunatic who found "killing" people with mind games was just as fun and enjoyable as killing them with his bare hands..

Holder beat the crap out of Riddick, using him as a scapegoat for Bullet's death.

Linden and Holder came oh so close to starting a relationship and then just about it.

Think that's about it.. Still no real hints on the real killer of Ray's wife and why he would have protected that person up until the last week of his life.

 

[Johnny Bing]

Can I get a recap of whodunit and what not? I've seen three of the episodes this season and enjoyed it but there is little chance I'll get to see the ones I missed.

With two shows left they've hung it on the cabby, that was the missing daughters mother's Boyfriend..

Missing daughter is still missing.. Mother is either a crack whore or should be one with as many personality's as she's shown... went from.. I hate my daughter, hope she dies on the street.. To.. My daughter is missing, I love her and miss her so much ..

Ray is still scheduled to hang.. Guard in prison who's wife was cheating on him got called home as his son killed the mothers boyfriend..

Pastor on Death Row was a Lunatic who found "killing" people with mind games was just as fun and enjoyable as killing them with his bare hands..

Holder beat the crap out of Riddick, using him as a scapegoat for Bullet's death.

Linden and Holder came oh so close to starting a relationship and then just about it.

Think that's about it.. Still no real hints on the real killer of Ray's wife and why he would have protected that person up until the last week of his life.

I think the other important story line is Ray's son ID'd the cabby as in the room and killed his mom. So Linden was determined that Ray was innocent. However, the crack whore mom verified that the cabby was out of town during the date the killing happened. So for some reason the boy lied. Maybe because he knew it may save his dad, who is now struggling with the fact he is going to die. Earlier in the season he was ready, but now he is going through some soul searching and not willing to die for something that we suspect he didn't do.

So now we are back to: what is Ray hiding or who is Ray hiding if he didn't kill his wife?

 

[BigJim®]

Think that's about it.. Still no real hints on the real killer of Ray's wife and why he would have protected that person up until the last week of his life.

I'd say there are extremely strong hints of one character. Who found the rings? Who took calls from Bullet and would know where she was? What type of offender would make that living victim skip town and scared for her life and uncooperative with police? Why would Bullet have not named the offender in a VM left for Holder? The hints may end up being misleading, but are screaming police offender.

I doubt Mills is the real offender, but have to say I was that Linden totally dismissed the boy's identification of Mills on the basis of a crackhead mom saying Mills was in Alaska 3 years ago. Really? An over the top skeptic like Linden does no investigation whatsoever and takes it as gospel fact? What exactly is it about Mills, or his here today/gone tomorrow relationship with Lutz, that would make Linden immediately conclude a bullet proof alibi? Just odd. Would have found it far more believable if Linden considered the Alaska travel a false alibi Mills fed Lutz to do what he wanted for a couple weeks.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Holder is , but...

Stan Larsen from last season will be the series' best character and it's not even close.

 

[snogger]

Think that's about it.. Still no real hints on the real killer of Ray's wife and why he would have protected that person up until the last week of his life.

I'd say there are extremely strong hints of one character. Who found the rings? Who took calls from Bullet and would know where she was? What type of offender would make that living victim skip town and scared for her life and uncooperative with police? Why would Bullet have not named the offender in a VM left for Holder? The hints may end up being misleading, but are screaming police offender.

I doubt Mills is the real offender, but have to say I was that Linden totally dismissed the boy's identification of Mills on the basis of a crackhead mom saying Mills was in Alaska 3 years ago. Really? An over the top skeptic like Linden does no investigation whatsoever and takes it as gospel fact? What exactly is it about Mills, or his here today/gone tomorrow relationship with Lutz, that would make Linden immediately conclude a bullet proof alibi? Just odd. Would have found it far more believable if Linden considered the Alaska travel a false alibi Mills fed Lutz to do what he wanted for a couple weeks.

Yea, I guess the "hints" as they are have been there as I pointed that out in my post before

Detective Carl Reddick.. He has never liked Linden and almost seemed to be "watching" over Holder, rather then working with him.. Then he just happens to be the guy that finds the box of rings..

Also, if I recall correctly, his hand was bandaged when Holder showed up to beat the snot out of him.. he kept yelling during the beat down "I did call, I did Call".. Maybe he called Skinner who didn't forward it on...

Maybe he and Skinner are in it together??

and yes, he took the calls from Bullet, but at one point Bullet is still making the calls and the killer is sitting outside the restaurant.. so kinda goes back to my "more then one person behind this all" thinking..

The only thing is why Ray would take the blame?? Did they threaten to kill his son if he didn't take the blame?

That is the one part that I'm hoping they clear up as I can't see any other reason to take the blame and leave your kid alone, scarred and scared.

 

[BigJim®]

The only thing is why Ray would take the blame?? Did they threaten to kill his son if he didn't take the blame?

That is the one part that I'm hoping they clear up as I can't see any other reason to take the blame and leave your kid alone, scarred and scared.

Yeah, I'm just saying the strongest signs are that it was a cop, so I would not say there is no hint of whodoneit.

On the whole 'why is Ray taking the blame' angle, I must be missing something. Seems to me he acts like he doesn't have the first clue who did it. The backstory I've seen is he had angrily accepted his fate as a wrongfully convicted and - possibly because he knows he's no father of the year material - was leaving it at that with his child because he had no other explanation. Maybe he acts that way because his twisted mind thought it was the right thing to do for his kid to have closure. I've gotten zero indication from his interaction with Linden that he's capable of fingering anyone else.

 

[snogger]

The only thing is why Ray would take the blame?? Did they threaten to kill his son if he didn't take the blame?

That is the one part that I'm hoping they clear up as I can't see any other reason to take the blame and leave your kid alone, scarred and scared.

Yeah, I'm just saying the strongest signs are that it was a cop, so I would not say there is no hint of whodoneit.On the whole 'why is Ray taking the blame' angle, I must be missing something. Seems to me he acts like he doesn't have the first clue who did it. The backstory I've seen is he had angrily accepted his fate as a wrongfully convicted and - possibly because he knows he's no father of the year material - was leaving it at that with his child because he had no other explanation. Maybe he acts that way because his twisted mind thought it was the right thing to do for his kid to have closure. I've gotten zero indication from his interaction with Linden that he's capable of fingering anyone else.

here is when things turned with his story line for me....Linden gets the new drawing, which leads her to the mass grave..

When she shows Ray the new drawing he freaks out and tells the guard.. 'I'm done here" and stops talking..

Leads me to believe he knows something about the Burial ground, or the true identity of the serial killer(s)....

which leads me back to why wouldn't he tell Linden what he knows???

ETA.. speculation.. what if Ray and his son are heading out for a fishing trip and see something that leads them to the burials and they see the killer(s). The killer(s) see them leaving and being cops track them down They then kill the wife in front of Ray, nit realizing the kid saw it. Ray knows everything he says is videotaped but once his son starts to remember things Ray thinks the way out is to have the son say what he saw...

 

[BigJim®]

here is when things turned with his story line for me....

Linden gets the new drawing, which leads her to the mass grave..

When she shows Ray the new drawing he freaks out and tells the guard.. 'I'm done here" and stops talking..

Leads me to believe he knows something about the Burial ground, or the true identity of the serial killer(s)....

which leads me back to why wouldn't he tell Linden what he knows???

Or, he's beside himself in anger that she's just now investigating at this depth 3 years later, and days before his execution - something he was more direct about 2 or 3 episodes later. JMHO

 

[snogger]

here is when things turned with his story line for me....

Linden gets the new drawing, which leads her to the mass grave..

When she shows Ray the new drawing he freaks out and tells the guard.. 'I'm done here" and stops talking..

Leads me to believe he knows something about the Burial ground, or the true identity of the serial killer(s)....

which leads me back to why wouldn't he tell Linden what he knows???

Or, he's beside himself in anger that she's just now investigating at this depth 3 years later, and days before his execution - something he was more direct about 2 or 3 episodes later. JMHO

Added something as you did to add to the guessing

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Think that's about it.. Still no real hints on the real killer of Ray's wife and why he would have protected that person up until the last week of his life.

I'd say there are extremely strong hints of one character. Who found the rings? Who took calls from Bullet and would know where she was? What type of offender would make that living victim skip town and scared for her life and uncooperative with police? Why would Bullet have not named the offender in a VM left for Holder? The hints may end up being misleading, but are screaming police offender.

I doubt Mills is the real offender, but have to say I was that Linden totally dismissed the boy's identification of Mills on the basis of a crackhead mom saying Mills was in Alaska 3 years ago. Really? An over the top skeptic like Linden does no investigation whatsoever and takes it as gospel fact? What exactly is it about Mills, or his here today/gone tomorrow relationship with Lutz, that would make Linden immediately conclude a bullet proof alibi? Just odd. Would have found it far more believable if Linden considered the Alaska travel a false alibi Mills fed Lutz to do what he wanted for a couple weeks.

was thinking the same thing.

 

[Otis]

best season so far

Not even close. Such an awesome season. Really well done.

 

[Otis]

Holder is , but...

Stan Larsen from last season will be the series' best character and it's not even close.

Totally disagree. Holder and Linden carry the show. Awesome characters and acting.

 

[Otis]

I bet we come full circle and it was Ray after all.

 

[snogger]

Quite the impact last night.. It was one thing to see him drop.. yet another to watch him struggle.

So Ray showed up afterwards... Doesn't seem like Ray was covering for anyone.. He blamed himself for her death and was why he took the blame.. had he stayed like Adrian yelled at him to do she might still be alive.

I understand Adrian not wanting to speak as he blamed his dad.. or maybe he fears for his own life as they still haven't answered how he knew about the burial grounds in the swamp area.

If I recall he had a tree house in the back yard.. How far away is their house from the burial grounds??

Maybe he was in the tree house and witnessed someone dumping a body.. Killer saw him and Adrian knew he saw him which is why he was so angry at his dad leaving that night as he knew he was caught..

He hides in closet, killer shows up and threatens the mom to tell him where her son is or she is dead, she doesn't give him away and is killed.

we also still haven't found Kallie...

Spoiler

Previews show Holder and Linden figuring out something is a little and that a cop may be in on it.. They also find a new body in the trunk of a burned car.. could be Kallie in her moms car??

If they decide to stick to the formula of the first "killing" maybe there are 3 people involved.. Cabbie, Reddick and Skinner...

2 hour finale next week

 

[Johnny Bing]

Didn't care for the way they justified Ray taking the fall for his wife's murder.

Yes, he left his wife and he felt responsible, but knowing there is a killer out there and your taking the blame for that serial killer doesn't make any sense. I don't see how anyone could just take the fall and not to mention the death penalty for another killer.

 

[snogger]

Didn't care for the way they justified Ray taking the fall for his wife's murder.

Yes, he left his wife and he felt responsible, but knowing there is a killer out there and your taking the blame for that serial killer doesn't make any sense. I don't see how anyone could just take the fall and not to mention the death penalty for another killer.

Yea.. I understand blaming yourself.. but knowing that the real killer is still out there you'd figure at some point before the week of the execution you would say something about not being the killer.. If for nothing else to protect your son.

Although this season has been light years above the previous ones, a few things the writers have just let slide are bothersome.

1. Linden has yet to ask Adrain why he continued to draw the burial grounds over and over.. Should have been the FIRST question she asked when she was given a chance to question him about identifying the person in the photos.

2. Guards son kills his mothers boyfriend and they just let that story line go.. Nothing at all in this last hour and he still is at work for the hanging.. Seriosly.. Your kid murders someone, no way in heck they allow you back to work.. especially to hang someone..

Guess they were trying to show his conflicting feelings now that his son murdered someone in ending someones life, thus the reason he couldn't put the bag on Ray's head.. But still bad writing IMO.

3. No more questioning of Cabbie.. I guess he lawyer'd up?? But still would have thought they'd attempt to question him further even with a lawyer present..

All in all it has been a very good season.. Just hope the last two hours close some of the holes.

 

[Johnny Bing]

Didn't care for the way they justified Ray taking the fall for his wife's murder.

Yes, he left his wife and he felt responsible, but knowing there is a killer out there and your taking the blame for that serial killer doesn't make any sense. I don't see how anyone could just take the fall and not to mention the death penalty for another killer.

1. Linden has yet to ask Adrain why he continued to draw the burial grounds over and over.. Should have been the FIRST question she asked when she was given a chance to question him about identifying the person in the photos.

That is a good point, where did the drawings come into play? If the boy was in the closet, how did he know where the burial grounds were?

I agree, not a horrible season, just some poor writing on issues they initially made big stories, but then didn't follow-up with them.

 

[snogger]

Quite the impact last night.. It was one thing to see him drop.. yet another to watch him struggle.

So Ray showed up afterwards... Doesn't seem like Ray was covering for anyone.. He blamed himself for her death and was why he took the blame.. had he stayed like Adrian yelled at him to do she might still be alive.

I understand Adrian not wanting to speak as he blamed his dad.. or maybe he fears for his own life as they still haven't answered how he knew about the burial grounds in the swamp area.

If I recall he had a tree house in the back yard.. How far away is their house from the burial grounds??

Maybe he was in the tree house and witnessed someone dumping a body.. Killer saw him and Adrian knew he saw him which is why he was so angry at his dad leaving that night as he knew he was caught..

He hides in closet, killer shows up and threatens the mom to tell him where her son is or she is dead, she doesn't give him away and is killed.

we also still haven't found Kallie...

Spoiler

Previews show Holder and Linden figuring out something is a little and that a cop may be in on it.. They also find a new body in the trunk of a burned car.. could be Kallie in her moms car??

If they decide to stick to the formula of the first "killing" maybe there are 3 people involved.. Cabbie, Reddick and Skinner...

2 hour finale next week

best Holder impression....Snap.. Ok so tree house wasn't in backyard.. the recall on my part was Ray talking about building a tree house .. and now Skinner has Adrain

 

[Class Dismissed]

Joel Kinnaman flat out stole every scene he was in this year.

 

[Class Dismissed]

for all the criticism they received for dragging out seasons 1&2 this one sure ended abruptly.

 

[Abraham]

Update on what happened?

 

[Otis]

HFS

 

[Otis]

for all the criticism they received for dragging out seasons 1&2 this one sure ended abruptly.

Seriously.

 

[The Dude]

I didn;t mention it here but I stated that the only far fetched things was the killer finding Bullett right as Bullett found out he was the killer - seemed a bit far fetched.

Glad to see they tied it together tonight.