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Amobi Okoye (1 Viewer)

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In a lot of mock drafts, I've been seeing Okoye go anywhere from 4th to the Bucs to 7th to the Vikings and I haven't seen a new mock draft lately that has Okoye going much lower than #9. I know his stock is rising, but any reason to raise his stock this much over the past, oh, week?

I love Okoye as a prospect and I think he'll be a great DT, but if he goes at #4, it'll reek of Mike Mamula.

 
I love Okoye as a prospect and I think he'll be a great DT, but if he goes at #4, it'll reek of Mike Mamula.
Don't know a thing about Okoye yet, but if you are making a Mamula comparison, I'd say that does not bode well. Mamula turned out to be such a dud. Although, I don't think he was used properly by the (then) Eagles coaching staff. Ray Rhodes was enamored with the guy after the combines, due to his impressive bench press performance, but Rhodes was never good at picking solid draft picks. (Remember the guy with a bum eye, on the QB's blind side!) Mamula would have been better utilized as an outside LB, instead of DE. His career might have lasted longer also. Now, I need to do some research on this Okoye kid......
 
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In a lot of mock drafts, I've been seeing Okoye go anywhere from 4th to the Bucs to 7th to the Vikings and I haven't seen a new mock draft lately that has Okoye going much lower than #9. I know his stock is rising, but any reason to raise his stock this much over the past, oh, week?I love Okoye as a prospect and I think he'll be a great DT, but if he goes at #4, it'll reek of Mike Mamula.
Okoye is a pretty solid prospect. I don't know that he goes at 4, but I bet he's gone by 10. The thing about him is he probably has the most upside of anybody in the draft because, heck the kid might grow two or three more inches and pack on another 25 pounds of muscle. Of course the sudden fortune he's about to get could have a negative effect on him as well.
 
Anyone see that piece ESPN did on him Sunday? Very impressive. And the kid is only 19 years old. He was in accellerated courses all throughout highschool.

 
Anyone see that piece ESPN did on him Sunday? Very impressive. And the kid is only 19 years old. He was in accellerated courses all throughout highschool.
Of course the sudden fortune he's about to get could have a negative effect on him as well
When someone has that type of motivation, sudden fortune will have no negative effect IMO. These are the kind of kids that are very self motivated and determined. Top 10 pick but not top 5....if the Bucs want him, trade down with someone interested.
 
In a lot of mock drafts, I've been seeing Okoye go anywhere from 4th to the Bucs to 7th to the Vikings and I haven't seen a new mock draft lately that has Okoye going much lower than #9. I know his stock is rising, but any reason to raise his stock this much over the past, oh, week?I love Okoye as a prospect and I think he'll be a great DT, but if he goes at #4, it'll reek of Mike Mamula.
It won't reek of Mamula.1. Okoye has a very unique profile: NFL-draft eligible at 19, yet has enough skill on game tape to be a 1st rounder. And tons of people think this.2. Mamula was a second round player at bet, before he wowed the Eagles at the combine. Not so many people thought he wa a real 1st rounder, and he wasn't young enough to expect physical growth, etc.I'd say they are pretty different.
 
Okoye spent all four years at Louisville; starting his final two and rotating his first two.

He's actually one of the most seasoned DT out of the top DTs in this draft (Harrell, Branch, McBride, Pitcock, Tyler, McDonald). Only Pitcock and Tyler played as much in college as Okoye.

The Mamula comparison is off-base.

 
Anyone see that piece ESPN did on him Sunday? Very impressive. And the kid is only 19 years old. He was in accellerated courses all throughout highschool.
Of course the sudden fortune he's about to get could have a negative effect on him as well
When someone has that type of motivation, sudden fortune will have no negative effect IMO. These are the kind of kids that are very self motivated and determined. Top 10 pick but not top 5....if the Bucs want him, trade down with someone interested.
The kid's extremely motivated and probably will be the smartest guy on the team he signs on. It's not like he's some troubled kid from the projects that is going to be brought down by a bunch of questionable cohorts and choices. He's made all the right choices to now so character is something where I'd rate this kid at the top of the heap. He's already shown 1st rounder skills so he's basically a productive college player with tons of potential, smarts, motivation, size, etc. What is not to like other than maybe that he didn't play in one of the big conferences?
 
An age-old question for Amobi Okoye By The Associated PressWednesday, April 18, 2007LOUISVILLE, Ky. - The opening question is always the same. Always.When NFL personnel first meet Amobi Okoye, they don't ask the former Louisville star how he molded himself into one of the top defensive line prospects in this year's draft. They don't wonder about his work habits or pester him about what it was like growing up in Nigeria.Their question is much simpler, often spoken in hushed tones to let Okoye know it's OK to finally drop his guard and let them in on the secret they think he's keeping."They're always like, 'Are you 19? Really?"' Okoye says, shaking his head. "They say 'You can tell me. I won't tell anybody.' "Okoye sighs and lets out a little laugh. The questions he's hearing now are the same ones he heard four years ago after joining the Cardinals at age 16, a time when most players are getting ready for their junior year of high school."I'm used to it," said Okoye, who turns 20 in June. "People have always been asking me about it. In my head, when I hear it now, I'm like, 'Again?"'Don't get Okoye wrong. He's not ungrateful for the attention or exasperated by the somewhat skeptical look in a scout's eyes whenever they watch him work out.It's just he's ready for people to start looking past the date on his birth certificate and concentrate on what's made him a virtual lock to go in the first round: the never-idle motor he spent three seasons harnessing before finally letting loose; the lighting quick way he gets off the ball; the nimble footwork that makes double-teaming him nearly impossible."I'm a player, you know?" he said. "Let's talk about football."Okoye understands the skepticism. Everything about him, from his cerebral, quiet nature to his 6-foot-1, 300-pound frame, suggests he's all grown up. His deep voice rumbles from somewhere out of his thick chest. His words are measured, polite and exact."You hear about his age, and you wonder how he's going to fit in," said Atlanta defensive line coach Kevin Wolthausen, who coached Okoye at Louisville before following Bobby Petrino to the Falcons. "But it just goes back to his parents and the way he was raised. He's never known anything different."When Okoye moved from Nigeria to Alabama at age 12, he spent two weeks in middle school before voluntarily testing into high school so he could be with his older brother and sister. He joined the football team at Lee High in Huntsville, Ala., after one of his friends told him he'd probably get "broken" if he tried to run with the big boys."So, I was like, 'You know, just for that, I am going to go out there,' " he said.At that point, his impressions of the sport were the blurry images he saw during random games broadcast to Nigeria. The rules were a mystery. He thought the whole thing looked like some chaotic brawl.But Okoye learned to love football, even if he didn't understand it. He enjoyed being part of a team, and playing helped him fit in with his older classmates, who quickly forgot the kid who'd just knocked them over was three years younger than them.It didn't take long for colleges to notice. But nearly every one wanted Okoye to redshirt when he got to school to allow his body and his mind to mature.It wasn't what he wanted to hear. He wanted to play. Now."I didn't want to redshirt or grayshirt, nothing like that," he said.Louisville didn't choose Okoye as much as he chose Louisville after attending a couple of summer football camps at the school. He came with the promise he'd be given a chance to get on the field."During two-a-days that first year, (playing) is what I wanted to do, and I just kept going after it," he said.It worked. Okoye played in 13 games as a 16-year-old freshman in 2003, even picking up a sack. He moved into the starting lineup as a junior, and last season became the driving force on a defense that helped Louisville to the Big East title and a win in the Orange Bowl."I think he was simply ready," Wolthausen said. "All we could do with him was screw it up. So, we tried not to screw it up."Okoye finished with 55 tackles and eight sacks on his way to being a second-team All-American, playing with the kind of intelligence teammate Zach Anderson said "just proved he's smarter than all of us."Okoye etched his place into school lore during a 23-17 win over Cincinnati in October. With the Bearcats driving down the field in the final minute trying for an upset, Okoye's relentless pursuit of quarterback Dustin Grutza became a staple of the team's video sessions the rest of the season. Petrino would point to Okoye's all-out effort as something that should be the rule, not the exception.It's that kind of attitude that's helped propel Okoye's draft stock. His athleticism impressed Tampa Bay coach Jon Gruden at the Senior Bowl, and during Louisville's recent pro day, he was surrounded by coaches, scouts and general managers eager to see if the 19-year-old was as good as advertised.Still, the age question lingers. Though he was 16 when he arrived at Louisville, he was still only six or seven years younger than the oldest player on the team. In the NFL he could be sitting next to veterans who were already in high school when he was born.It's a dynamic Okoye is aware of, but knows there's only one way to earn the respect of his new teammates."I'm just going to go in there and work hard," he said. "Those guys have been around a long time. I just want to learn from them and prove that I belong."
 
He's moved up on my list since I started evaluating prospects this year. I think it's a combination of things. First of all, once you have your master list you start looking for flaws in it. I like most of the experts (I am not even close to being an expert) had Branch rated higher than Okoye, but then I saw a drill in the combine that was a red flag on the amount of effort he would put in as an NFL player. That wouldn't have changed anything, but it was followed by a Branch interview that would seem to reinforce my thoughts from that drill. Then you start to look more at NFL team specifics. How does this guy fit in your system? The cream will rise to the top. Not because of what they did usually, but more because of what the other guys didn't do. Then you look at the ceiling and the floor and how much you feel the risk on any specific player is. Last but not least, you look at fan acceptance and I don't know about what's going on at your water coolers, but a lot of people are talking about the 19 year old that's gonna get drafted in the first round. A few of them don't know what a DT is, but they still buy tickets. Things usually happen for a reason and good players seem to find a way to make things happen.

 

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