An Ode to 100 Pitches (1 Viewer)

[Chemical X]

100 pitches, no more no less. no matter your size, no matter your age. lefty, righty, Dominican, Venezuelan. 100 pitches is all there is......

IMO, for some odd reason, 100 pitches seems to be the imposed limit. why is this the arbitrary number? cause it's triple digits? I think there numerous reasons for the decline of the modern pitcher, but somehow I figure pitchers are pacing themselves nowadays to get to 100 pitches. I truly think at this point they are looking to be pulled. is there a study out there, pitcher by pitcher, that analyzes pitches per pitcher, etc?

 

[Eephus]

High stress innings are probably as big a factor as total pitch count

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Urban Shocker never worried about his pitch count.

 

[jon_mx]

Managers adhere too much to the arbitrary 100 pitch pitch-count limit. If only we used a base 12 numbering system, that number might be 144 pitches.

 

[jon_mx]

Mark Fidrych is the guy a lot of people point to about a pitcher who was abused by being over pitched. Despite not making his first start until May 15th, Fidrych managed to pitch 24 complete games and pitched over 250 innings. He pitched 13 times on three day rest. Two of his games were back to back starts which he pitched 11 innings. Pitch counts were not done back then, but it is believed he had several days of pitching nearly 175 pitches. He led the league in ERA and had a WAR of 9.6 for that year, ending up 2nd in the Cy Young voting. The next year Fidrych hurt his shoulder pitching during the season, and never regained his magic from the 1976 season. Some blame the way he was abused. However many point to the knee injury he suffered early in the season shagging fly balls. They say this changed his pitching motion and blame his shoulder injury on bad mechanics.

 

[Raider Nation]

Buncha coddled babies today. Nolan Ryan threw 259 pitches in a 12-inning game in '74. Satchel Paige used to pitch both ends of doubleheaders.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

100 pitches, no more no less. no matter your size, no matter your age. lefty, righty, Dominican, Venezuelan. 100 pitches is all there is......

IMO, for some odd reason, 100 pitches seems to be the imposed limit. why is this the arbitrary number? cause it's triple digits? I think there numerous reasons for the decline of the modern pitcher, but somehow I figure pitchers are pacing themselves nowadays to get to 100 pitches. I truly think at this point they are looking to be pulled. is there a study out there, pitcher by pitcher, that analyzes pitches per pitcher, etc?

I don't think they are pacing themselves. I think it's just the opposite. They know they get 100 pitches and it doesn't seem to matter that much to managers how they get there. So they just throw as hard as they can for 100 pitches and they are done.

I think that guys used to be more about pacing themselves. I guess Verlander is kind of trying to mold himself in this way. Christy Mathewson talked about this in his writings (for a current reference).

Of course, it was easier to pace yourself in the older times when hitters were less advanced.

 

[Eephus]

100 pitches, no more no less. no matter your size, no matter your age. lefty, righty, Dominican, Venezuelan. 100 pitches is all there is......

IMO, for some odd reason, 100 pitches seems to be the imposed limit. why is this the arbitrary number? cause it's triple digits? I think there numerous reasons for the decline of the modern pitcher, but somehow I figure pitchers are pacing themselves nowadays to get to 100 pitches. I truly think at this point they are looking to be pulled. is there a study out there, pitcher by pitcher, that analyzes pitches per pitcher, etc?

I don't think they are pacing themselves. I think it's just the opposite. They know they get 100 pitches and it doesn't seem to matter that much to managers how they get there. So they just throw as hard as they can for 100 pitches and they are done.

I think that guys used to be more about pacing themselves. I guess Verlander is kind of trying to mold himself in this way. Christy Mathewson talked about this in his writings (for a current reference).

Of course, it was easier to pace yourself in the older times when hitters were less advanced.

You're less advanced

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Ok, ok, Deacon White was way advanced, old man.