An open bible is better than an open mind (1 Viewer)

[Psychopav]

OK, now I see where you two are going with this. You guys are both using an absolutist definition of the phrase "open mind", suggesting that it means "empty mind", in order, apparently, to justify the original statement. Possibly because you are both religious Christians and don't want to criticize anyone who is promoting Christianity?

But this is dishonest, because both of you know, or should know, that the colloquial, accepted definition of "open mind" means a mind willing to accept new ideas, and willing to allow facts or newly found knowlege to change one's preconceived ideas or convictions.

Tim, I am sure you consider yourself open-minded, but you are really not on a lot of topics. All you know about global warming is the 97% of scientists whose life is dependent upon global warming theory being true, believe global warming is true. No matter what argument or fact are presented, you completely ignore the merits of the argument and fall back on what the tithe-sucking experts believe.

do you think tim should be more open minded?

This is how you choose to spend your time when you could be playing ? It may be time for an intervention.

 

[B-Deep]

OK, now I see where you two are going with this. You guys are both using an absolutist definition of the phrase "open mind", suggesting that it means "empty mind", in order, apparently, to justify the original statement. Possibly because you are both religious Christians and don't want to criticize anyone who is promoting Christianity?

But this is dishonest, because both of you know, or should know, that the colloquial, accepted definition of "open mind" means a mind willing to accept new ideas, and willing to allow facts or newly found knowlege to change one's preconceived ideas or convictions.

Tim, I am sure you consider yourself open-minded, but you are really not on a lot of topics. All you know about global warming is the 97% of scientists whose life is dependent upon global warming theory being true, believe global warming is true. No matter what argument or fact are presented, you completely ignore the merits of the argument and fall back on what the tithe-sucking experts believe.

do you think tim should be more open minded?

This is how you choose to spend your time when you could be playing ? It may be time for an intervention.

:(

 

[B-Deep]

i signed up for the next game!

 

[SacramentoBob]

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Open Bible WW?

 

[B-Deep]

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Open Bible WW?

closed mind ww

 

[SacramentoBob]

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Open Bible WW?

closed mind ww

You are Leviticus 20:13, GGRP. Each night you can choose one person to view to see if they are practicing homosexuality and kill them.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

i signed up for the next game!

Open Bible WW?

closed mind ww

You are Leviticus 20:13, GGRP. Each night you can choose one person to view to see if they are practicing homosexuality and kill them.

lol

 

[fatness]

i signed up for the next game!

Open Bible WW?

closed mind ww

You are Leviticus 20:13, GGRP. Each night you can choose one person to view to see if they are practicing homosexuality and kill them.

lol

 

[Deepster]

I want both personally. But here's what I think it means. Christians who believe the bible is the word of God feel that the information in the bible is very important. They have committed to submit to the teachings of scripture and to interpret their circumstances in light of the existence of God, the gospel, and standard Christian teaching. So in some sense, once someone has decided to believe the bible either is or isn't the word of God, their mind has been 'closed' or rather put on a track to either listen to or not listen to its teachings.

Nonsense. What a church fears most is someone approaching the bible with the same standards of critical thought (or open mindedness) that they would anything else.

A good church does not fear this but encourages it as long as you agree with them at the end of the day..Fixed.

 

[proninja]

I've been doing some reading lately on fundamentalism vs neo-orthodoxy and watching a few friends who are fans of both Barth and Van Til argue some points, and it's been interesting to hear the viewpoints of those who approach the bible with an open mind vs those who don't, all from a reformed perspective.

This probably isn't the thread for that discussion, but there are many Christians (faithful ones even) who approach the bible with far more open of a mind than many would think.

 

[matuski]

I've been doing some reading lately on fundamentalism vs neo-orthodoxy and watching a few friends who are fans of both Barth and Van Til argue some points, and it's been interesting to hear the viewpoints of those who approach the bible with an open mind vs those who don't, all from a reformed perspective.

This probably isn't the thread for that discussion, but there are many Christians (faithful ones even) who approach the bible with far more open of a mind than many would think.

But they aren't true Christians.

 

[mr roboto]

I've been doing some reading lately on fundamentalism vs neo-orthodoxy and watching a few friends who are fans of both Barth and Van Til argue some points, and it's been interesting to hear the viewpoints of those who approach the bible with an open mind vs those who don't, all from a reformed perspective.

This probably isn't the thread for that discussion, but there are many Christians (faithful ones even) who approach the bible with far more open of a mind than many would think.

But they aren't true Christians.

You are so horribly tiresome and typical.

 

[matuski]

I've been doing some reading lately on fundamentalism vs neo-orthodoxy and watching a few friends who are fans of both Barth and Van Til argue some points, and it's been interesting to hear the viewpoints of those who approach the bible with an open mind vs those who don't, all from a reformed perspective.

This probably isn't the thread for that discussion, but there are many Christians (faithful ones even) who approach the bible with far more open of a mind than many would think.

But they aren't true Christians.

You are so horribly tiresome and typical.

Lighten up Francis.

 

[jon_mx]

I've been doing some reading lately on fundamentalism vs neo-orthodoxy and watching a few friends who are fans of both Barth and Van Til argue some points, and it's been interesting to hear the viewpoints of those who approach the bible with an open mind vs those who don't, all from a reformed perspective.

This probably isn't the thread for that discussion, but there are many Christians (faithful ones even) who approach the bible with far more open of a mind than many would think.

But they aren't true Christians.

You are so horribly tiresome and typical.

Lighten up Francis.

Ditto.

 

[matuski]

I've been doing some reading lately on fundamentalism vs neo-orthodoxy and watching a few friends who are fans of both Barth and Van Til argue some points, and it's been interesting to hear the viewpoints of those who approach the bible with an open mind vs those who don't, all from a reformed perspective.

This probably isn't the thread for that discussion, but there are many Christians (faithful ones even) who approach the bible with far more open of a mind than many would think.

But they aren't true Christians.

You are so horribly tiresome and typical.

Lighten up Francis.

Ditto.

I knew you loved me.

 

[danielmclark]

I've been doing some reading lately on fundamentalism vs neo-orthodoxy and watching a few friends who are fans of both Barth and Van Til argue some points, and it's been interesting to hear the viewpoints of those who approach the bible with an open mind vs those who don't, all from a reformed perspective.

This probably isn't the thread for that discussion, but there are many Christians (faithful ones even) who approach the bible with far more open of a mind than many would think.

But they aren't true Christians.

No True Scotsman

 

[Psychopav]

i signed up for the next game!

Open Bible WW?

closed mind ww

You are Leviticus 20:13, GGRP. Each night you can choose one person to view to see if they are practicing homosexuality and kill them.

lol

Someone pass me a stoning item imo.

 

[fatness]

Some preacher on TV wants me to have an open wallet. He didn't mention a Bible or a mind.

 

[Mario Kart]

Some preacher on TV wants me to have an open wallet. He didn't mention a Bible or a mind.

A friend of mine, who is a nun, wants me to enter her open VaJayJay. Just seems wrong.

 

[Otis]

i signed up for the next game!

Open Bible WW?

closed mind ww

You are Leviticus 20:13, GGRP. Each night you can choose one person to view to see if they are practicing homosexuality and kill them.

 

[matuski]

I've been doing some reading lately on fundamentalism vs neo-orthodoxy and watching a few friends who are fans of both Barth and Van Til argue some points, and it's been interesting to hear the viewpoints of those who approach the bible with an open mind vs those who don't, all from a reformed perspective.

This probably isn't the thread for that discussion, but there are many Christians (faithful ones even) who approach the bible with far more open of a mind than many would think.

But they aren't true Christians.

No True Scotsman

Any wiki links out there for a honda?

 

[(HULK)]

Most seminary educated pastors have read across the whole spectrum, from evangelical/catholic theology to higher biblical criticism (non-Christian scholarship viewing the bible as any other text). I know this is hard for your myopic view of Christian education to believe, but when I was studying greek, Hebrew, personally translating several books from the original languages etc we routinely consulted sources from all points of the spectrum. I honestly came to the belief that I did for a combination of historical, literary, and experiential reasons.

What time I spend on these boards is usually in the Shark Pool, but I lurk here sometimes too. I never thought I'd dip a toe in these waters & post something, but here it goes... & I hope I don't draw back a nub.mr roboto is spot on with this. I am currently in seminary & just finished one of the more interesting & challenging courses I've taken- Modern & PostModern Theology. We read a ton of stuff! Hundreds of pages each week from all kinds of people- everyone from Barth (Neo-Orthodoxy), to Henry (Evangelical), to Cone (Liberation), to Olson (PoMo), & everything in between. I attend a very conservative Baptist seminary but we are not blind to the academy or the need to engage the culture. Some of us get it. The world is a different place since the Enlightenment. Modernism called for evidence. PoMo says there are no foundations. Things have changed & the world is different, but it is the world we are called to minister in.The way I see it, the 21st century is the most like the 1st century than any century since. Religious pluralism & postmodern thought is remarkably like the world of the New Testament. The Aposle Paul went to Mars Hill when he had to. He didn't win many people with his Gospel tale of a Resurrected man who is the Lord over all, but he did engage the culture, win a hearing, & he got invited back. The educators & philosophers wanted to hear it again. That's why we read what we read, not in spite of what we believe but BECAUSE of what we believe.That's enough for now I guess... & just for the record, I loathe stinking church signs.

my father was in the seminary for a while and has a masters in theology. He dropped at The last minute because he wanted a family of his own. I'll confirm what is above as well.That said, he thinks taking the bible as literal truth is both small minded and dangerous. He believes the message, but knows a story is a story. Although he pretty much believes the new testament is largely accurate. He waffles on the divinity of Jesus even.