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bigbottom said:
Given my posts in the PSF, you probably didn’t have me pegged for fronting a southern rock cover band. 
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And somewhere out there, there's a pic of four pinko FBGs (well, TANAC probably isn't a pinko) posing next to the General Lee at one of your shows.  Buncha hypocrites, we are.

 
rockaction said:
The Needle and the Spoon is amazing. 
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I love the guitars in this song. 🎸 Allen Collins' solo(s) is far out, man!  They had 3 guitars going a lot in their songs, and sometimes did dual leads. My favorite LS song.

 
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I'd put the trio "Free Bird", "Simple Man" and "Tuesday's Gone" up there with almost any three songs from any single album.

 
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zamboni said:
I'd put the trio "Free Bird", "Simple Man" and "Tuesday's Gone" up there with almost any three songs from any single album.
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Yup, was coming in to make sure the second two were mentioned.

I don't enjoy much else in their catalogue, but dang those are three amazing songs on multiple levels.  My HS buddy and I used to crank them up in the mid-90's on a lot of "wandering around town on a Friday/Saturday night" type adventures.  We usually had a minor air guitar jam session during Free Bird.  Good times.

 
scorchy said:
And somewhere out there, there's a pic of four pinko FBGs (well, TANAC probably isn't a pinko) posing next to the General Lee at one of your shows.  Buncha hypocrites, we are.
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At THE REDNECK COUNTRY CLUB no less. But no worries - your photo was all about the kitsch!

 
Play me a song Curtis Loew, Curtis Loew

Well I got your drinking money tune up your dobro

People said he was useless, them people all were fools

'Cause Curtis Loew was the finest picker to ever play the blues

 
Just took a drive under the exurban lights with "Simple Man" on in the background. Interesting trip. Now I'm so caffeinated I could sail to the moon. Nice to be out in seventy-eighty degree weather under the street lights with that song playing in the background. Not the most authentic trip, but a pleasant one. I mean, they were electrified and all that. 

 
rockaction said:
Just took a drive under the exurban lights with "Simple Man" on in the background. Interesting trip. Now I'm so caffeinated I could sail to the moon. Nice to be out in seventy-eighty degree weather under the street lights with that song playing in the background. Not the most authentic trip, but a pleasant one. I mean, they were electrified and all that. 
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Nice Rock.  Enjoy the moment my man. 👍

 
ekbeats said:
Nice Rock.  Enjoy the moment my man. 👍
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Yeah, that drive, even with the concrete, is a good one sometimes. Used to be all dirt roads and stuff here. It was an outpost for a long L.A. commute. Now it’s self-sufficient and huge. Amazing the suburban sprawling nature of it. Villas for everybody! 

 
rockaction said:
Just took a drive under the exurban lights with "Simple Man" on in the background. Interesting trip. Now I'm so caffeinated I could sail to the moon. Nice to be out in seventy-eighty degree weather under the street lights with that song playing in the background. Not the most authentic trip, but a pleasant one. I mean, they were electrified and all that. 
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rockaction said:
Yeah, that drive, even with the concrete, is a good one sometimes. Used to be all dirt roads and stuff here. It was an outpost for a long L.A. commute. Now it’s self-sufficient and huge. Amazing the suburban sprawling nature of it. Villas for everybody! 
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The 3 day heat wave here has created some epic early evening weather.  Was in the pool with the fam at 7pm with some Lynyrd playing in the background (all thanks to rock sticking them in my head last night).  Was a perfect night.

 
It would have been interesting to see where Skynyrd would have gone musically if that plane didn't crash. The 1980s weren't kind to most of the Boomer artists in general, but Southern Rock got wiped off of the map.

I really don't see any way Skynyrd could have done the same thing they'd been doing in the '70s and remain radio hitmakers. I mean, .38 Special still had hits, but had changed their sound so much that they could have been from Laurel Canyon. The rest were gone, either dead or doped out or irrelevant.

On the other hand, Skynyrd was an immensely talented band and Ronnie Van Zandt was one of the best songwriters (& singers) of the '70s. They maybe could have gone the Heart/ZZ Top route, but would have had to temper the "southern" part of their act a good bit.

Had they just stayed the same, I've no doubt they would have still been a huge concert draw but they'd have been a non-entity on the singles charts or on the radio. Of course, Hank William, Jr made a helluva a career that way.

I saw them live in the mid-90s and it wasn't good. The musicians who remained were fine, but Johnny Van Zandt was a pathetic frontman - he can't hold his brother's jock strap as either a singer or as a stage presence. And they were still draping themselves in Confederate symbolism. The fact that Hank, Jr opened should give you a good idea of both the crowd and the mood.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
It would have been interesting to see where Skynyrd would have gone musically if that plane didn't crash. The 1980s weren't kind to most of the Boomer artists in general, but Southern Rock got wiped off of the map.
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I don't know how interesting it would have been. The Southern romantics were pretty much politically insolvent by then, and the '80s had production putting sheen on everything. I don't think they would have survived, and it's probably about when they were on the decline, anyway. 

It's tragic what happened, but I think they'd have faded away otherwise, talent or no talent. 

Anyway, this thread was started because of the conflict between Southern romanticism and modern sensibilities, so I'm glad we got a post really commenting on it. There is an ugly underbelly to Southern leisure and arts, and we find it even in its music. I don't think enough has been said about it. 

 
rockaction said:
I don't know how interesting it would have been. The Southern romantics were pretty much politically insolvent by then, and the '80s had production putting sheen on everything. I don't think they would have survived, and it's probably about when they were on the decline, anyway. 

It's tragic what happened, but I think they'd have faded away otherwise, talent or no talent. 

Anyway, this thread was started because of the conflict between Southern romanticism and modern sensibilities, so I'm glad we got a post really commenting on it. There is an ugly underbelly to Southern leisure and arts, and we find it even in its music. I don't think enough has been said about it. 
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Agreed.

I guess why I think it's interesting is that they - unlike a 2nd tier band like Molly Hatchett - had the musical chops to morph into something else and be good at that, too.

But maybe their original ideals were too ingrained to change in any meaningful way. It's pretty obvious they couldn't without Ronnie, and - as you say - it's probable he wouldn't/couldn't either and they'd have just been a whiskey-drinkin', the-South's-gonna-rise-again, "outlaw" act like Charlie Daniels.

Though......if you dive into some of their lyrics, they seemed to be fighting against some of those Southern/Outlaw sensibilities at the same time.

Complicated band, complicated legacy. I long ago owned up to my hypocrisy in liking artists who I may not like from a philosophical or political or social standpoint. 

 
Uruk-Hai said:
Though......if you dive into some of their lyrics, they seemed to be fighting against some of those Southern/Outlaw sensibilities at the same time.
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Didn't MCA want them to use the Confederate flag as a backdrop? I'm pretty sure LS perceived the flag as Southern Heritage like many in the South did at that time, and some still do. I remember rebel rafts were sold at beaches in the South all the time in the 70s, and they weren't being sold as racist rafts. There were other items sold too that had the flag on it.  Even the General Lee on TV had the flag on top of its car. The Confederate flag was not used by everyone as a symbol of hate, but it was used by some as that, and it will forever now be seen as a hate symbol.  * These days everyone knows that the Confederate flag offends people, and so if people still choose to fly it, then they deserve whatever negative label is placed on them. For the record, I've never owned anything with the rebel flag on it, including the raft. I guess some kids may have thought the stars and bars was neat, but I always thought of it as the "redneck raft".

 
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simey said:
Didn't MCA want them to use the Confederate flag as a backdrop? I'm pretty sure LS perceived the flag as Southern Heritage like many in the South did at that time, and some still do. I remember rebel rafts were sold at beaches in the South all the time in the 70s, and they weren't being sold as racist rafts. There were other items sold too that had the flag on it.  Even the General Lee on TV had the flag on top of its car. The Confederate flag was not used by everyone as a symbol of hate, but it was used by some as that, and it will forever now be seen as a hate symbol.  * These days everyone knows that the Confederate flag offends people, and so if people still choose to fly it, then they deserve whatever negative label is placed on them. For the record, I've never owned anything with the rebel flag on it, including the raft. I guess some kids may have thought the stars and bars was neat, but I always thought of it as the "redneck raft".
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Fellow Floridian Tom Petty flew the CSA flag for the Southern Accents tour but lived long enough to realize he'd been "downright stupid"

 
Once we hit Louisiana, baby, I don't care
Got a brand new airplane waiting for us there
Give this piece of #### back to Aerosmith.
Wake me up when we get there.

The right engine gave a little flash, the pilot panicked and dumped the gas
Everything is quiet, we're dropping fast.
When we touch down gonna whup' his ###!

Greenville to Baton Rouge
Can't die now got a show to do
The life I live is the life I choose
Greenville to Baton Rouge.

 
simey said:
Didn't MCA want them to use the Confederate flag as a backdrop? I'm pretty sure LS perceived the flag as Southern Heritage like many in the South did at that time, and some still do. I remember rebel rafts were sold at beaches in the South all the time in the 70s, and they weren't being sold as racist rafts. There were other items sold too that had the flag on it.  Even the General Lee on TV had the flag on top of its car. The Confederate flag was not used by everyone as a symbol of hate, but it was used by some as that, and it will forever now be seen as a hate symbol.  * These days everyone knows that the Confederate flag offends people, and so if people still choose to fly it, then they deserve whatever negative label is placed on them. For the record, I've never owned anything with the rebel flag on it, including the raft. I guess some kids may have thought the stars and bars was neat, but I always thought of it as the "redneck raft".
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The Netflix doc had a good segment on that with Ronnie talking about this and how it was pride and heritage and not meant as racist. 

Seemed earnest, especially considering the time and the heritage.

 
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