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at some point he has to have a good game and carry the team in a big game. They were talking super bowl with the assets they've added and their defense and he's the one big cog holding them back. AJ Green makes him look ssooooo much better than he is.
I wouldn't go that far, Bernard is a very good young player but he is still learning. BJGE is still useful as a closer and short yardage guy. A 60 - 40 split in favor of Bernard should be how they use them. Eifert is going to be good but tight end is the hardest position for rookies to learn on offense. There is a reason why you don't see a ton of rookie tight ends light the league on fire. Even Gronk didn't start putting up big numbers and play a ton of snaps until the end of his rookie year.
Lets not forget Matt Ryan looked this bad his first few years in the league too, and his team was going 1 and done in the playoffs too. Give him time
Apparently never. It's amazing how many people just refuse to see this. It's was said well before the season started and it's been confirmed thru 4 games, Clev can play D.
I agree with this for the most part. Green is constantly seeing press man with safety help. If that is the case, then Cinci needs to expose the other areas of the D. Both of their TEs should be good enough to win those battles. Sanu is pretty good as well. Better yet, Cinci could run the ball to open up PA.
Freeman would work wonders
so you made it to the title game riding him as your number one?
No sir I did not - just fascinated to look at one league's end of season stats and shocked to see him at 4th for total and 5th for average.
use it as leverage to get someone else to draft him early next year.
Wow, just read that gem.
I made it with him as my technical number 1. I had him and A. Smith in my QBBC. Unfortunately I mind f'd things and benched him for A. Smith and lost because of it.
this is why I can't ever see myself owning dalton again. Dropped him mid season because of it, don't even know why I drafted him. Too much beer I guess.
Because he's not that good is one reason. I'd light myself on fire before i took him as the 5th qb off the board.
He's a great QB2 or 2nd QB of a QBBC. I don't see having him as my QB1 unless I get him really late.
Same here. I benched Romo for Dalton in my championship game. It was the reason I won. Thanks Andy
That is a great stat.
He's not in the same stratosphere as those guys. I don't care what anyone says, what stats you come up with, I don't see it. As a fantasy qb yes he has value in advantageous starts but nfl wise he's proved nothing. He beats up on dogs and gets smoked in test games. He's Matt Schaub 2013.
And in 3-4 years from now we will be able to say that same thing about some other mediocre QB considering every year that goes by the league gets more passer friendly.
No shame in that. Nobody thinks he's the next Manning or Marino. But the point is (I think) that the guy doesn't get credit for what he does. Gets smoked in test games? How do you make the playoffs if you can't win test games? If that were true, they'd be 6-10 every year.
look at who cincy has beaten, who they have lost to, who smoked them, and why.The Bengals are loaded with talent, they're better than bad and mediocre teams, despite Dalton. Against the best? Nope. I think they can win a game this year since they will probably be at home, but once they have to go on the road, good night.
They have beaten
QB1 - Manning(Big gap)
I think the bigger point is that people talk about Dalton like he's a below average QB who's barely starting quality in the NFL. That's laughable.
I suppose he'll be talked about if enough coaches get fired. I'm not sure if he's as hot a commodity as he was after last season. The longer the staff stays together the better in my opinion, though I think if Gruden gets a HC job somewhere then they'll get an OC with a similar philosophy.AllVolUT said:
Are Russ Wilson and Andrew luck average?If Wilson ticks up to 30 tds next year, he'll be in the vicinity. Luck has to throw 35 or so. Not impossible, but unlikely IMO. These are guys that are considered the best young franchise qbs, the future at the position, and they might not achieve Dalton's tds.ghostguy123 said:
I don't get all the hate for him. Is he perfect? No, but Matt Ryan was drafted higher then this and their stats and careers seem to be pretty similar through the first 3 years. Yet I don't remember Ryan getting killed this bad.
both of those guys are much better than Dalton. Wilson has no wr's/te's whatsoever and still can move an offense and make terrific individual plays. Same with Luck.
