Annonymous exposes Steubenville Rape Case (1 Viewer)

[Rayderr]

Guilty per AP.

Should've read one post up.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Guilty per AP.

Should've read one post up.

We cross-posted.

 

[gsmayes]

looks like the Dillon Panthers are going to suck this year.

 

[Abraham]

Both defendants found "Delinquent" (juvenile version of guilty) on all 3 counts.

So they get their hand slapped and records expunged when they turn 18?What a ####### joke.

I believe it's up til they are 21.

 

[StrikeS2k]

Both defendants found "Delinquent" (juvenile version of guilty) on all 3 counts.

So they get their hand slapped and records expunged when they turn 18?What a ####### joke.

Steubenville High School students Trent Mays and Ma'Lik Richmond were sentence to at least a year in juvenile jail, capping a case that came to light via a barrage of morning-after text messages, social media posts and online photos and video. Mays was sentenced to an additional year in jail on a charge of illegal use of a minor in nudity-oriented material, to be served after his rape sentence is completed

The length of their sentence beyond the minimum one year will be determined by juvenile authorities; they can be held until they're 21.

http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-teens-guilty-rape-face-plus-jail-145306028--spt.html

 

[SacramentoBob]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

 

[Henry Ford]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

 

[Joe Summer]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the party. She knew the risks."

 

[Henry Ford]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the party. She knew the risks."

Again, what?

 

[Rayderr]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

 

[Henry Ford]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

When you have drunk so much that you passed out, have you ever been repeatedly raped and violated, then urinated on, all of it on video?

 

[Rayderr]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

When you have drunk so much that you passed out, have you ever been repeatedly raped and violated, then urinated on, all of it on video?

I've actually never been drunk. I don't drink. But, not sure why you're targeting me, even after I said that the 2 boys were in the wrong.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

It's a shame these kids aren't going to a maximum security adult facility where they would be raped every day for 20 years.

 

[Jobber]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

It's a shame these kids aren't going to a maximum security adult facility where they would be raped every day for 20 years.

I'm fairly certain Anonymous and their ilk will make life difficult for these guys for years to come. They'd have been better off in prison for a few years, if not for the sole purpose of appeasing everyone and letting this drop for good.

 

[Henry Ford]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

When you have drunk so much that you passed out, have you ever been repeatedly raped and violated, then urinated on, all of it on video?

I've actually never been drunk. I don't drink. But, not sure why you're targeting me, even after I said that the 2 boys were in the wrong.

I'm not targeting you. I'm asking a question. It's open for Sacramento Bob to answer, too, if that's better.

 

[Courtjester]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

Easily an entry for the worst post of the year....

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

You can't be serious

 

[Mohawk]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

That is a sick and disgusting thing to say Bob!

 

[Rayderr]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

When you have drunk so much that you passed out, have you ever been repeatedly raped and violated, then urinated on, all of it on video?

I've actually never been drunk. I don't drink. But, not sure why you're targeting me, even after I said that the 2 boys were in the wrong.

I'm not targeting you. I'm asking a question. It's open for Sacramento Bob to answer, too, if that's better.

liI will say this, and keep in mind that this in no way excuses the actions of the boys involved. People should always take steps to protect themselves. Much like how you and I wouldn't go walking though the bad part of town flashing a big wad of cash, neither should high school girls be getting so wasted that they pass out in front of a bunch of horny high school boys. Maybe you and I get lucky and don't mugged. Maybe a girl who passes out from drinking too much doesn't have anything bad happen to her. Or maybe you and I do get mugged and she does get raped, but we can identify the person and put them away. Isn't it still better not to be in that situation to begin with? Not saying it's her fault, but if she was smart, she could've prevented it from happening. I see a lot of comments on the news websites about how great this is to teach boys everywhere a lesson. It should also be teaching girls everywhere a lesson.

 

[Mario Kart]

The boys are lucky to not be getting more time than they are. Not sure how they can hold their heads up especially to the girl after this but these boys won the jackpot by not going to adult jail.

Nobody should be blaming the girl. That is just stupid. Maybe it was her first time drinking, whatever, no one called help for this girl? Anyone pointing fingers at the girl is just plain stupid and would be crying bloody murder if it was their daughter.

 

[bigbottom]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

When you have drunk so much that you passed out, have you ever been repeatedly raped and violated, then urinated on, all of it on video?

I've actually never been drunk. I don't drink. But, not sure why you're targeting me, even after I said that the 2 boys were in the wrong.

I'm not targeting you. I'm asking a question. It's open for Sacramento Bob to answer, too, if that's better.

liI will say this, and keep in mind that this in no way excuses the actions of the boys involved. People should always take steps to protect themselves. Much like how you and I wouldn't go walking though the bad part of town flashing a big wad of cash, neither should high school girls be getting so wasted that they pass out in front of a bunch of horny high school boys. Maybe you and I get lucky and don't mugged. Maybe a girl who passes out from drinking too much doesn't have anything bad happen to her. Or maybe you and I do get mugged and she does get raped, but we can identify the person and put them away. Isn't it still better not to be in that situation to begin with? Not saying it's her fault, but if she was smart, she could've prevented it from happening. I see a lot of comments on the news websites about how great this is to teach boys everywhere a lesson. It should also be teaching girls everywhere a lesson.

And none of this is really relevant to Bob's original statement, which is that the girl had to come up with a story once the pictures started making the rounds to avoid being called a slut at school. And that it was a shame that the boys now have a record.

 

[StrikeS2k]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

When you have drunk so much that you passed out, have you ever been repeatedly raped and violated, then urinated on, all of it on video?

I've actually never been drunk. I don't drink. But, not sure why you're targeting me, even after I said that the 2 boys were in the wrong.

I'm not targeting you. I'm asking a question. It's open for Sacramento Bob to answer, too, if that's better.

liI will say this, and keep in mind that this in no way excuses the actions of the boys involved. People should always take steps to protect themselves. Much like how you and I wouldn't go walking though the bad part of town flashing a big wad of cash, neither should high school girls be getting so wasted that they pass out in front of a bunch of horny high school boys. Maybe you and I get lucky and don't mugged. Maybe a girl who passes out from drinking too much doesn't have anything bad happen to her. Or maybe you and I do get mugged and she does get raped, but we can identify the person and put them away. Isn't it still better not to be in that situation to begin with? Not saying it's her fault, but if she was smart, she could've prevented it from happening. I see a lot of comments on the news websites about how great this is to teach boys everywhere a lesson. It should also be teaching girls everywhere a lesson.

Yeah, and if girls dress provocatively they deserve to get raped too!! Seriously man, you and Bob should quit while you're behind.

 

[Nikki2200]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

How noble of you.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Link

 

[johnnycakes]

I heard, "if you can't do the time then don't do the crime" long before I left high school. Maybe those boys will get a much-needed education in juvey.

 

[Henry Ford]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

When you have drunk so much that you passed out, have you ever been repeatedly raped and violated, then urinated on, all of it on video?

I've actually never been drunk. I don't drink. But, not sure why you're targeting me, even after I said that the 2 boys were in the wrong.

I'm not targeting you. I'm asking a question. It's open for Sacramento Bob to answer, too, if that's better.

liI will say this, and keep in mind that this in no way excuses the actions of the boys involved. People should always take steps to protect themselves. Much like how you and I wouldn't go walking though the bad part of town flashing a big wad of cash, neither should high school girls be getting so wasted that they pass out in front of a bunch of horny high school boys. Maybe you and I get lucky and don't mugged. Maybe a girl who passes out from drinking too much doesn't have anything bad happen to her. Or maybe you and I do get mugged and she does get raped, but we can identify the person and put them away. Isn't it still better not to be in that situation to begin with? Not saying it's her fault, but if she was smart, she could've prevented it from happening. I see a lot of comments on the news websites about how great this is to teach boys everywhere a lesson. It should also be teaching girls everywhere a lesson.

Can I rethink the question of whether I'm targeting you?

 

[Oliver Humanzee]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

Jesus, what a scumbag.

 

[Oliver Humanzee]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

When you have drunk so much that you passed out, have you ever been repeatedly raped and violated, then urinated on, all of it on video?

I've actually never been drunk. I don't drink. But, not sure why you're targeting me, even after I said that the 2 boys were in the wrong.

I'm not targeting you. I'm asking a question. It's open for Sacramento Bob to answer, too, if that's better.

liI will say this, and keep in mind that this in no way excuses the actions of the boys involved. People should always take steps to protect themselves. Much like how you and I wouldn't go walking though the bad part of town flashing a big wad of cash, neither should high school girls be getting so wasted that they pass out in front of a bunch of horny high school boys. Maybe you and I get lucky and don't mugged. Maybe a girl who passes out from drinking too much doesn't have anything bad happen to her. Or maybe you and I do get mugged and she does get raped, but we can identify the person and put them away. Isn't it still better not to be in that situation to begin with? Not saying it's her fault, but if she was smart, she could've prevented it from happening. I see a lot of comments on the news websites about how great this is to teach boys everywhere a lesson. It should also be teaching girls everywhere a lesson.

Can I rethink the question of whether I'm targeting you?

Yes. Scumbag Lite here. Now 50% more passive aggressive.

 

[NutterButter]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

Jesus, what a scumbag.

 

[kface]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

Jesus, what a scumbag.

 

[Rayderr]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

When you have drunk so much that you passed out, have you ever been repeatedly raped and violated, then urinated on, all of it on video?

I've actually never been drunk. I don't drink. But, not sure why you're targeting me, even after I said that the 2 boys were in the wrong.

I'm not targeting you. I'm asking a question. It's open for Sacramento Bob to answer, too, if that's better.

liI will say this, and keep in mind that this in no way excuses the actions of the boys involved. People should always take steps to protect themselves. Much like how you and I wouldn't go walking though the bad part of town flashing a big wad of cash, neither should high school girls be getting so wasted that they pass out in front of a bunch of horny high school boys. Maybe you and I get lucky and don't mugged. Maybe a girl who passes out from drinking too much doesn't have anything bad happen to her. Or maybe you and I do get mugged and she does get raped, but we can identify the person and put them away. Isn't it still better not to be in that situation to begin with? Not saying it's her fault, but if she was smart, she could've prevented it from happening. I see a lot of comments on the news websites about how great this is to teach boys everywhere a lesson. It should also be teaching girls everywhere a lesson.

Yeah, and if girls dress provocatively they deserve to get raped too!! Seriously man, you and Bob should quit while you're behind.

No where did I say that. Are you a parent? Do you teach your kids things to keep them safe? (i.e. don't accept a ride from that stranger with candy.) Parents of teenage girls everywhere should be having a talk with them about the dangers of drinking.

 

[Abraham]

Showing poor judgment does not mean a person "deserves" to be a victim of a crime more than a person that shows good judgement. In fact, those we surround ourselves with have an ethical duty to help those that can not help themselves. It's no different than calling a cab for someone who had too much at the bar. The worst part about this whole case to me is that no one at the parties thought "something wrong is going on." None of them had sisters or nieces or friends to think "I may be drunk, and they may be drunk, but this is not cool..."

 

[Mile High]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

When you have drunk so much that you passed out, have you ever been repeatedly raped and violated, then urinated on, all of it on video?

I've actually never been drunk. I don't drink. But, not sure why you're targeting me, even after I said that the 2 boys were in the wrong.

I'm not targeting you. I'm asking a question. It's open for Sacramento Bob to answer, too, if that's better.

liI will say this, and keep in mind that this in no way excuses the actions of the boys involved. People should always take steps to protect themselves. Much like how you and I wouldn't go walking though the bad part of town flashing a big wad of cash, neither should high school girls be getting so wasted that they pass out in front of a bunch of horny high school boys. Maybe you and I get lucky and don't mugged. Maybe a girl who passes out from drinking too much doesn't have anything bad happen to her. Or maybe you and I do get mugged and she does get raped, but we can identify the person and put them away. Isn't it still better not to be in that situation to begin with? Not saying it's her fault, but if she was smart, she could've prevented it from happening. I see a lot of comments on the news websites about how great this is to teach boys everywhere a lesson. It should also be teaching girls everywhere a lesson.

Yeah, and if girls dress provocatively they deserve to get raped too!! Seriously man, you and Bob should quit while you're behind.

No where did I say that. Are you a parent? Do you teach your kids things to keep them safe? (i.e. don't accept a ride from that stranger with candy.) Parents of teenage girls everywhere should be having a talk with them about the dangers of drinking.

Also parents of teenage boys need to teach them to respect others. The boys where the ones who made the decision to take it to a whole new level.

 

[StrikeS2k]

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

When you have drunk so much that you passed out, have you ever been repeatedly raped and violated, then urinated on, all of it on video?

I've actually never been drunk. I don't drink. But, not sure why you're targeting me, even after I said that the 2 boys were in the wrong.

I'm not targeting you. I'm asking a question. It's open for Sacramento Bob to answer, too, if that's better.

liI will say this, and keep in mind that this in no way excuses the actions of the boys involved. People should always take steps to protect themselves. Much like how you and I wouldn't go walking though the bad part of town flashing a big wad of cash, neither should high school girls be getting so wasted that they pass out in front of a bunch of horny high school boys. Maybe you and I get lucky and don't mugged. Maybe a girl who passes out from drinking too much doesn't have anything bad happen to her. Or maybe you and I do get mugged and she does get raped, but we can identify the person and put them away. Isn't it still better not to be in that situation to begin with? Not saying it's her fault, but if she was smart, she could've prevented it from happening. I see a lot of comments on the news websites about how great this is to teach boys everywhere a lesson. It should also be teaching girls everywhere a lesson.

Yeah, and if girls dress provocatively they deserve to get raped too!! Seriously man, you and Bob should quit while you're behind.

No where did I say that. Are you a parent? Do you teach your kids things to keep them safe? (i.e. don't accept a ride from that stranger with candy.) Parents of teenage girls everywhere should be having a talk with them about the dangers of drinking.

How do you know her parents didn't have that talk? She was at a party with FRIENDS. Who expects to get raped at a party with friends, regardless of whether she drank? As I said, you should quit while you're behind.

 

[Rayderr]

Showing poor judgment does not mean a person "deserves" to be a victim of a crime more than a person that shows good judgement. In fact, those we surround ourselves with have an ethical duty to help those that can not help themselves. It's no different than calling a cab for someone who had too much at the bar. The worst part about this whole case to me is that no one at the parties thought "something wrong is going on." None of them had sisters or nieces or friends to think "I may be drunk, and they may be drunk, but this is not cool..."

I don't think anyone has said that deserve to be a victim. Rather that people should try to use good judgement in the first place. Not sure why that's ruffled so many feathers here.

 

[StrikeS2k]

Showing poor judgment does not mean a person "deserves" to be a victim of a crime more than a person that shows good judgement. In fact, those we surround ourselves with have an ethical duty to help those that can not help themselves. It's no different than calling a cab for someone who had too much at the bar. The worst part about this whole case to me is that no one at the parties thought "something wrong is going on." None of them had sisters or nieces or friends to think "I may be drunk, and they may be drunk, but this is not cool..."

I don't think anyone has said that deserve to be a victim. Rather that people should try to use good judgement in the first place. Not sure why that's ruffled so many feathers here.

You're suggesting that she shares some culpability. Cause, you know, in your world if she wasn't there or didn't drink it wouldn't have happened. Seems pretty simple. You should quit while you're behind.

 

[Rayderr]

Showing poor judgment does not mean a person "deserves" to be a victim of a crime more than a person that shows good judgement. In fact, those we surround ourselves with have an ethical duty to help those that can not help themselves. It's no different than calling a cab for someone who had too much at the bar. The worst part about this whole case to me is that no one at the parties thought "something wrong is going on." None of them had sisters or nieces or friends to think "I may be drunk, and they may be drunk, but this is not cool..."

I don't think anyone has said that deserve to be a victim. Rather that people should try to use good judgement in the first place. Not sure why that's ruffled so many feathers here.

You're suggesting that she shares some culpability. Cause, you know, in your world if she wasn't there or didn't drink it wouldn't have happened. Seems pretty simple. You should quit while you're behind.

Good lord dude...

Not saying it's her fault, but if she was smart, she could've prevented it from happening.

 

[StrikeS2k]

Showing poor judgment does not mean a person "deserves" to be a victim of a crime more than a person that shows good judgement. In fact, those we surround ourselves with have an ethical duty to help those that can not help themselves. It's no different than calling a cab for someone who had too much at the bar. The worst part about this whole case to me is that no one at the parties thought "something wrong is going on." None of them had sisters or nieces or friends to think "I may be drunk, and they may be drunk, but this is not cool..."

I don't think anyone has said that deserve to be a victim. Rather that people should try to use good judgement in the first place. Not sure why that's ruffled so many feathers here.

You're suggesting that she shares some culpability. Cause, you know, in your world if she wasn't there or didn't drink it wouldn't have happened. Seems pretty simple. You should quit while you're behind.

Good lord dude...

Not saying it's her fault, but if she was smart, she could've prevented it from happening.

You can keep saying that but no one believes you. You should quit while you're behind. Oh, and maybe you shouldn't comment on things you have no personal experience with.

 

[Rayderr]

Showing poor judgment does not mean a person "deserves" to be a victim of a crime more than a person that shows good judgement. In fact, those we surround ourselves with have an ethical duty to help those that can not help themselves. It's no different than calling a cab for someone who had too much at the bar. The worst part about this whole case to me is that no one at the parties thought "something wrong is going on." None of them had sisters or nieces or friends to think "I may be drunk, and they may be drunk, but this is not cool..."

I don't think anyone has said that deserve to be a victim. Rather that people should try to use good judgement in the first place. Not sure why that's ruffled so many feathers here.

You're suggesting that she shares some culpability. Cause, you know, in your world if she wasn't there or didn't drink it wouldn't have happened. Seems pretty simple. You should quit while you're behind.

Good lord dude...

Not saying it's her fault, but if she was smart, she could've prevented it from happening.

You can keep saying that but no one believes you. You should quit while you're behind. Oh, and maybe you shouldn't comment on things you have no personal experience with.

Yeah, that was such a shocking position to take, I can understand why you don't want to believe it.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Some of you people need to calm down a little and actually listen to what Rayderr is saying instead of responding to what you're imagining that he's saying. Sheesh. As a father of a middle-school girl, I'm definitely going to try to teach her to watch out for herself and not always rely on the kindness and good graces of others. That shouldn't be even remotely controversial.

 

[StrikeS2k]

Some of you people need to calm down a little and actually listen to what Rayderr is saying instead of responding to what you're imagining that he's saying. Sheesh. As a father of a middle-school girl, I'm definitely going to try to teach her to watch out for herself and not always rely on the kindness and good graces of others. That shouldn't be even remotely controversial.

This is from Rayderr:

"If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have drank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

That's his quote manip of a previous post. See post 211. He can try to backtrack and qualify his quote manip all he wants, but he clearly holds the girl partially responsible for what happened to her.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Some of you people need to calm down a little and actually listen to what Rayderr is saying instead of responding to what you're imagining that he's saying. Sheesh. As a father of a middle-school girl, I'm definitely going to try to teach her to watch out for herself and not always rely on the kindness and good graces of others. That shouldn't be even remotely controversial.

This is from Rayderr:

"If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have drank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

I'm not sure what kind of advice you're going to offer your daughter, but I'm going to recommend to her that she not get passed out at a party full of drunken adolescent boys.

 

[StrikeS2k]

Some of you people need to calm down a little and actually listen to what Rayderr is saying instead of responding to what you're imagining that he's saying. Sheesh. As a father of a middle-school girl, I'm definitely going to try to teach her to watch out for herself and not always rely on the kindness and good graces of others. That shouldn't be even remotely controversial.

This is from Rayderr:

"If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have drank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

I'm not sure what kind of advice you're going to offer your daughter, but I'm going to recommend to her that she not get passed out at a party full of drunken adolescent boys.

Right. And as I already asked, how do we know that didn't happen here? You do realize that kids, especially teens, often times ignore advice from their parents. let me ask you this. If she gets raped after having passed out at a party with friends, are you going to say "Well I told you not to get that drunk. You knew the risks."? I doubt it.

 

[Rayderr]

Some of you people need to calm down a little and actually listen to what Rayderr is saying instead of responding to what you're imagining that he's saying. Sheesh. As a father of a middle-school girl, I'm definitely going to try to teach her to watch out for herself and not always rely on the kindness and good graces of others. That shouldn't be even remotely controversial.

This is from Rayderr:

"If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have drank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

That's his quote manip of a previous post. See post 211. He can try to backtrack and qualify his quote manip all he wants, but he clearly holds the girl partially responsible for what happened to her.

Let's put it back in context here.

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

So, I was fixing the translation of Bob's statement.

 

[StrikeS2k]

Some of you people need to calm down a little and actually listen to what Rayderr is saying instead of responding to what you're imagining that he's saying. Sheesh. As a father of a middle-school girl, I'm definitely going to try to teach her to watch out for herself and not always rely on the kindness and good graces of others. That shouldn't be even remotely controversial.

This is from Rayderr:

"If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have drank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

That's his quote manip of a previous post. See post 211. He can try to backtrack and qualify his quote manip all he wants, but he clearly holds the girl partially responsible for what happened to her.

Let's put it back in context here.

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

So, I was fixing the translation of Bob's statement.

Yeah, that's what you were doing.

 

[Rayderr]

Some of you people need to calm down a little and actually listen to what Rayderr is saying instead of responding to what you're imagining that he's saying. Sheesh. As a father of a middle-school girl, I'm definitely going to try to teach her to watch out for herself and not always rely on the kindness and good graces of others. That shouldn't be even remotely controversial.

This is from Rayderr:

"If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have drank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

That's his quote manip of a previous post. See post 211. He can try to backtrack and qualify his quote manip all he wants, but he clearly holds the girl partially responsible for what happened to her.

Let's put it back in context here.

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

So, I was fixing the translation of Bob's statement.

Yeah, that's what you were doing.

Do you think Joe Summer is also saying it's her fault for going to the party?At this point, I honestly don't know if you're fishing or just a freaking moron.

 

[bigbottom]

Some of you people need to calm down a little and actually listen to what Rayderr is saying instead of responding to what you're imagining that he's saying. Sheesh. As a father of a middle-school girl, I'm definitely going to try to teach her to watch out for herself and not always rely on the kindness and good graces of others. That shouldn't be even remotely controversial.

This is from Rayderr:

"If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have drank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

That's his quote manip of a previous post. See post 211. He can try to backtrack and qualify his quote manip all he wants, but he clearly holds the girl partially responsible for what happened to her.

Let's put it back in context here.

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

So, I was fixing the translation of Bob's statement.

Again, I'd like to point out that the initial translation and your fixed translation aren't anywhere close to what Bob's statement said.

 

[Rayderr]

Some of you people need to calm down a little and actually listen to what Rayderr is saying instead of responding to what you're imagining that he's saying. Sheesh. As a father of a middle-school girl, I'm definitely going to try to teach her to watch out for herself and not always rely on the kindness and good graces of others. That shouldn't be even remotely controversial.

This is from Rayderr:

"If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have drank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

That's his quote manip of a previous post. See post 211. He can try to backtrack and qualify his quote manip all he wants, but he clearly holds the girl partially responsible for what happened to her.

Let's put it back in context here.

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

So, I was fixing the translation of Bob's statement.

Again, I'd like to point out that the initial translation and your fixed translation aren't anywhere close to what Bob's statement said.

Take that up with Joe Summer then.

 

[bigbottom]

Some of you people need to calm down a little and actually listen to what Rayderr is saying instead of responding to what you're imagining that he's saying. Sheesh. As a father of a middle-school girl, I'm definitely going to try to teach her to watch out for herself and not always rely on the kindness and good graces of others. That shouldn't be even remotely controversial.

This is from Rayderr:

"If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have drank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

That's his quote manip of a previous post. See post 211. He can try to backtrack and qualify his quote manip all he wants, but he clearly holds the girl partially responsible for what happened to her.

Let's put it back in context here.

It's a shame these kids now have a record because some girl is afraid to be called a slut in school. We all know what happens at these parties and she had to come up with an excuse once the pictures starting making the rounds.

What?

Translation: "If she didn't want to get violated, then she shouldn't have gone to the partydrank so much that she passed out. She knew the risks."

Fixed. (tho I still believe they were in the wrong.)

So, I was fixing the translation of Bob's statement.

Again, I'd like to point out that the initial translation and your fixed translation aren't anywhere close to what Bob's statement said.

Take that up with Joe Summer then.

You claim to have been "fixing" The translation of Bob's statement, not making your own statement. I can buy that. But in what way were you fixing the translation of Bob's statement?Edit: I do find your knee-jerk defensiveness somewhat interesting, though, as I'm on your side in terms of thinking that you're being unfairly bashed and lumped in with Bob's post. The sentiment in that post was far more offensive (and quite different) than your fixed translation of the post.

 

[pittstownkiller]

I was listening to two lawyers talk about this case on FOX News last night (one was Arthur Aidala). The first lawyer (i can't remember her name, former prosecutor) said this was a very difficult case to win, since the girl had no recollection of the night and the prosecution case was made by the testimony of eye-witnesses; Aidala though it was an easier case since she was so drunk as to not remember anything, she could not give consent (even though it was implied her lack of refusal was consent). I do believe, but not for any factual reason, that these boys didn't t feel like they were raping her but had to have some idea that their behavior was despicable towards another human being. I have seen many of girl come through bars and summer/winter rentals in this condition; I have protected many but too many guys think that a passed out girl is an acceptable target. I do not mind the sentence the boys got and they are incredibly lucky that they didn't get "pound you in the ###" prison.