Another Favre Rumor (1 Viewer)

[switz]

Apparently, the Bucs already have a potential trade in place with Green Bar for Bret Favre. It's rumored they ALSO have a trade in place with Minnesota for Bret Favre.

From what I hear, the deal is that the Bucs acquire Favre, and then are trading him to Minnesota. Minnesota is supposedly replacing the picks Tampa loses in the Favre trade, plus adding a 5th rounder.

But then here's the reason that the trade between GB and TB isn't all worked out, and why it's unlikely the TB to Min trade will ever happen. GB wants a clause in the TB trade that IF Favre gets traded by TB to another team, TB has to give up their 2010 2nd round pick.

... interesting, but I don't see it happening

 

[NoCheese]

I've thought about this scenario, and frankly, I think it would be the only way it gets done. In fact, Minnesota could just offer to cover Tampa's 2010 2nd rounder that they would have to pay GB by trading him to the Vikes, plus give Tampa a higher pick than they gave GB

This way, it appears GB has covered themselves in the eyes of their fans by not trading him to MN, but in effect Tampa would be the medium thru which the Vikes get Favre.

I could see GB discussing this option w/ Tampa (Favre ending up w/ MN) if it's the only way they get Favre off the team and avoid the public embarrassment of trading him directly to the Vikes. My sense is that the reason Favre is somewhat open to TB is because he knows GB has to insert the trade provision in the deal. This would be an ingenious way for all sides to come out ahead.

The only question in my mind is why Tampa would want to stregthen the Vikes, but if they feel that he'll only go to the Vikes, then they would probably welcome a better draft pick for brokering the deal.

 

[Andy Herron]

Apparently, the Bucs already have a potential trade in place with Green Bar for Bret Favre. It's rumored they ALSO have a trade in place with Minnesota for Bret Favre.From what I hear, the deal is that the Bucs acquire Favre, and then are trading him to Minnesota. Minnesota is supposedly replacing the picks Tampa loses in the Favre trade, plus adding a 5th rounder.But then here's the reason that the trade between GB and TB isn't all worked out, and why it's unlikely the TB to Min trade will ever happen. GB wants a clause in the TB trade that IF Favre gets traded by TB to another team, TB has to give up their 2010 2nd round pick.... interesting, but I don't see it happening

Not calling you out Switz, but where did you hear/see this?I'm about to go on shift for the news page (at the top of the hour), and just looking for a source to look into and watch out for.Thanks

 

[gump]

Makes little sense to me. The Glazers are drooling right now over having Favre in the mix...but they would give that up for a 5th round pick?

 

[Warhogs]

I am having a hard time buying this one. First, I don't think another NFL team would want to burn any bridges with another organization by flipping a player and I would think most trades would have some sort of restrictions. I would also think the NFL would frown on such a practice and I would think the commissioner would probably impose a large penalty for doing something like this. I guess nothing surprises me in this Favre mess but this seems pretty unlikely.

 

[switz]

Apparently, the Bucs already have a potential trade in place with Green Bay for Bret Favre. It's rumored they ALSO have a trade in place with Minnesota for Bret Favre.From what I hear, the deal is that the Bucs acquire Favre, and then are trading him to Minnesota. Minnesota is supposedly replacing the picks Tampa loses in the Favre trade, plus adding a 5th rounder.But then here's the reason that the trade between GB and TB isn't all worked out, and why it's unlikely the TB to Min trade will ever happen. GB wants a clause in the TB trade that IF Favre gets traded by TB to another team, TB has to give up their 2010 2nd round pick.... interesting, but I don't see it happening

Not calling you out Switz, but where did you hear/see this?I'm about to go on shift for the news page (at the top of the hour), and just looking for a source to look into and watch out for.Thanks

I wish I'd heard this from a news source, but it was just a friend, and they didn't give me a source.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

I don't think the Vikings want Favre. They have almost the same situation as the Packers with their QBs. They could have drafted Brohm in the 2nd round, and didn't, which means they feel better about their QB situation than the Packers. If they feel the same as the Packers, then why give up extra picks just to make the situation worse (in what could be their opinion)?

 

[NoCheese]

I am having a hard time buying this one. First, I don't think another NFL team would want to burn any bridges with another organization by flipping a player and I would think most trades would have some sort of restrictions. I would also think the NFL would frown on such a practice and I would think the commissioner would probably impose a large penalty for doing something like this. I guess nothing surprises me in this Favre mess but this seems pretty unlikely.

I agree in most situations. However, if GB knows TB is doing this, and they're not offended, but they insert language into the trade agreement to "protect" them, then I fail to see how that would be an issue. GB has clearly stated that they will not trade Favre to MN. This may be the only way yo get rid of him and get some compensation is to have Tampa in effect broker the deal. I agree it's still a long shot, but nothing would surprise me at this point.

 

[NoCheese]

I don't think the Vikings want Favre. They have almost the same situation as the Packers with their QBs. They could have drafted Brohm in the 2nd round, and didn't, which means they feel better about their QB situation than the Packers. If they feel the same as the Packers, then why give up extra picks just to make the situation worse (in what could be their opinion)?

Rogers>>TJackAlso, maybe the reason the Vikings didn't draft Brohm/Henne is because they supsected the could get Favre.

 

[bcr8f]

Thompson would probably have a poison pill like the Vikings did.

"If Favre plays more than 3 games in the state on Minnesota...Tampa surrenders 12 first round draft picks"

 

[BigRed]

So Favre isn't a commie??

 

[T Bell]

I don't think the Vikings want Favre. They have almost the same situation as the Packers with their QBs. They could have drafted Brohm in the 2nd round, and didn't, which means they feel better about their QB situation than the Packers. If they feel the same as the Packers, then why give up extra picks just to make the situation worse (in what could be their opinion)?

Rogers>>TJackAlso, maybe the reason the Vikings didn't draft Brohm/Henne is because they supsected the could get Favre.

How could they have a reasonable belief in this as of late April without tampering occurring?

 

[Texican]

I am having a hard time buying this one. First, I don't think another NFL team would want to burn any bridges with another organization by flipping a player and I would think most trades would have some sort of restrictions. I would also think the NFL would frown on such a practice and I would think the commissioner would probably impose a large penalty for doing something like this. I guess nothing surprises me in this Favre mess but this seems pretty unlikely.

According to local radio, the only thing preventing a team from "flipping" Favre it the salary cap. If both teams are under the cap, it is possible.

 

[bcr8f]

I don't think the Vikings want Favre. They have almost the same situation as the Packers with their QBs. They could have drafted Brohm in the 2nd round, and didn't, which means they feel better about their QB situation than the Packers. If they feel the same as the Packers, then why give up extra picks just to make the situation worse (in what could be their opinion)?

They felt they were going to the SB under Denny Green too.

 

[bcr8f]

I don't think the Vikings want Favre. They have almost the same situation as the Packers with their QBs. They could have drafted Brohm in the 2nd round, and didn't, which means they feel better about their QB situation than the Packers. If they feel the same as the Packers, then why give up extra picks just to make the situation worse (in what could be their opinion)?

Rogers>>TJackAlso, maybe the reason the Vikings didn't draft Brohm/Henne is because they supsected the could get Favre.

How could they have a reasonable belief in this as of late April without tampering occurring?

They were let off because Favre said there was no tampering, but I find all these conversations troubling. You mean in dozens of talks you weren't asked about playing again? But without evidence the NFL couldn't do anything.

 

[sho nuff]

I am having a hard time buying this one. First, I don't think another NFL team would want to burn any bridges with another organization by flipping a player and I would think most trades would have some sort of restrictions. I would also think the NFL would frown on such a practice and I would think the commissioner would probably impose a large penalty for doing something like this. I guess nothing surprises me in this Favre mess but this seems pretty unlikely.

Would that not be some sort of collusion? Just seems very odd.

 

[Yenrub]

Thompson would probably have a poison pill like the Vikings did. "If Favre plays more than 3 games in the state on Minnesota...Tampa surrenders 12 first round draft picks"

Would the commissioner’s office approve a trade with a poison pill like that in it?

 

[Bizkiteer]

I don't think the Vikings want Favre. They have almost the same situation as the Packers with their QBs. They could have drafted Brohm in the 2nd round, and didn't, which means they feel better about their QB situation than the Packers. If they feel the same as the Packers, then why give up extra picks just to make the situation worse (in what could be their opinion)?

They would be able to get J. Garcia, if Favre went to TB. Of course, if they wanted...

 

[sho nuff]

Would the commish's office approve a trade right to Minny.

If Minny is already discussing this...would that not be tampering? Discussing a trade about a player on another team? If they have not actually gotten permission to speak to such player?

 

[qazqaz11]

At the very least there will be a "gentlemans agreement" that TB (or NYJ) will not "flip" Favre to any other team without GB's approval.

TB would break that agreement at their peril.

 

[habsfan]

After the sideshow this has become, I can't believe GB is still worried about the optics of a trade to someone in their division. Dealing through a third party would be pure semantics. Set your price, get it directly from whoever you can get it from and put this behind you.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Apparently, the Bucs already have a potential trade in place with Green Bar for Bret Favre. It's rumored they ALSO have a trade in place with Minnesota for Bret Favre.From what I hear, the deal is that the Bucs acquire Favre, and then are trading him to Minnesota. Minnesota is supposedly replacing the picks Tampa loses in the Favre trade, plus adding a 5th rounder.But then here's the reason that the trade between GB and TB isn't all worked out, and why it's unlikely the TB to Min trade will ever happen. GB wants a clause in the TB trade that IF Favre gets traded by TB to another team, TB has to give up their 2010 2nd round pick.... interesting, but I don't see it happening

Not calling you out Switz, but where did you hear/see this?I'm about to go on shift for the news page (at the top of the hour), and just looking for a source to look into and watch out for.Thanks

Its been discussed ad nauseum in virtually every Favre thread on the board over the past two weeks. The Packers can obviously prevent a serial trade by putting a poison pill in the trade contract. I don't think they could prevent the Bucs from releasing Favre, in which case he would get his wish.

 

[Capella]

even if they went 4-12, Favre would be a cash cow for the Bucs. Why would they give that up for a worthless 5th round pick?

 

[switz]

even if they went 4-12, Favre would be a cash cow for the Bucs. Why would they give that up for a worthless 5th round pick?

I didn't think it was realistic either... but figured if I shared it, someone else in the know might be able to add some info.

 

[Moe Green]

I would think any trade the Packers make involving Favre will include some type of clause that he may not be traded to another team within their division. I mean after all, this is speculated to be their very worst nightmare, isn't it?

 

[Golden Mike Tomczak]

I don't think the Vikings want Favre. They have almost the same situation as the Packers with their QBs. They could have drafted Brohm in the 2nd round, and didn't, which means they feel better about their QB situation than the Packers. If they feel the same as the Packers, then why give up extra picks just to make the situation worse (in what could be their opinion)?

Rogers>>TJackAlso, maybe the reason the Vikings didn't draft Brohm/Henne is because they supsected the could get Favre.

How can you even say this?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Rogers>>TJack

Also, maybe the reason the Vikings didn't draft Brohm/Henne is because they supsected the could get Favre.

How do you come to this conclusion?

 

[NoCheese]

Rogers>>TJack

Also, maybe the reason the Vikings didn't draft Brohm/Henne is because they supsected the could get Favre.

How do you come to this conclusion?

I've seen him play

 

[bcr8f]

I don't think the Vikings want Favre. They have almost the same situation as the Packers with their QBs. They could have drafted Brohm in the 2nd round, and didn't, which means they feel better about their QB situation than the Packers. If they feel the same as the Packers, then why give up extra picks just to make the situation worse (in what could be their opinion)?

Rogers>>TJackAlso, maybe the reason the Vikings didn't draft Brohm/Henne is because they supsected the could get Favre.

How can you even say this?

How about this? Favre un retired to play for Minnesota. He demanded to be cut so he could go there and has refused to go anywhere else.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

I don't think the Vikings want Favre. They have almost the same situation as the Packers with their QBs. They could have drafted Brohm in the 2nd round, and didn't, which means they feel better about their QB situation than the Packers. If they feel the same as the Packers, then why give up extra picks just to make the situation worse (in what could be their opinion)?

Rogers>>TJackAlso, maybe the reason the Vikings didn't draft Brohm/Henne is because they supsected the could get Favre.

How can you even say this?

How about this? Favre un retired to play for Minnesota. He demanded to be cut so he could go there and has refused to go anywhere else.

True, because he knows that Minnesota gives him the best chance to win a Super Bowl - unlike Green Bay. I can agree with you there.

 

[Todem]

I hope Favre does play in Minny...it will be amazing television and an awesome story line throughout the season.

It would be great for us the fans!!!!

That is the most important thing in all of this!!!!

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Rogers>>TJack

Also, maybe the reason the Vikings didn't draft Brohm/Henne is because they supsected the could get Favre.

How do you come to this conclusion?

I've seen him play

Rogers hasn't done anything to warrant anyone's loyalty. At least TJack has started in the NFL. That's a lot more than I can say for Rogers.

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

not rumors.. TB has offered Griese, not Garcia and at least a conditional pick. Jets have offered a better package. source...rotoworld and Favre is not to happy GB is demanding more from TB.

I don't think Minnisota is even in the running for Favre. It would be Rodgers Favre training camp competition part 2 staring Taveris Jackson and Brett Favre

 

[fridayfrenzy]

NFL Network is reporting breaking news of a deal to Tampa Bay expected to be done today.

 

[NoCheese]

not rumors.. TB has offered Griese, not Garcia and at least a conditional pick. Jets have offered a better package. source...rotoworld and Favre is not to happy GB is demanding more from TB. I don't think Minnisota is even in the running for Favre. It would be Rodgers Favre training camp competition part 2 staring Taveris Jackson and Brett Favre

sorry, responded to the wrong post!

 

[jestertj]

not rumors.. TB has offered Griese, not Garcia and at least a conditional pick. Jets have offered a better package. source...rotoworld and Favre is not to happy GB is demanding more from TB. I don't think Minnisota is even in the running for Favre. It would be Rodgers Favre training camp competition part 2 staring Taveris Jackson and Brett Favre

TJack has looked like a deer in the headlights in nearly every start. In the only significant playing time Rogers got (against Dallas) he looked like a rising star.

I think you're confused. Culpepper always had the deer in headlights look. TJ will improve.Rodgers will not be good. I think he's fragile and the Pack will be starting Brohm at some point due to said fragility. The fans will be irate.

 

[supermark_28]

not rumors.. TB has offered Griese, not Garcia and at least a conditional pick. Jets have offered a better package. source...rotoworld and Favre is not to happy GB is demanding more from TB. I don't think Minnisota is even in the running for Favre. It would be Rodgers Favre training camp competition part 2 staring Taveris Jackson and Brett Favre

So if Griese is traded to GB,what happens to Garcia? Does he find a new home in Minnesota? Does he play secondfiddle to Favre in TB?

 

[GreenNGold]

NFL Network is reporting breaking news of a deal to Tampa Bay expected to be done today.

LOL - sounds like they are saying: Breaking news: There will be breaking news today If true, I hope Favre throws 10+ TD's in week 4 while all the Tampa fans chant "Thank you Green Bay!"

 

[NoCheese]

Rogers>>TJack

Also, maybe the reason the Vikings didn't draft Brohm/Henne is because they supsected the could get Favre.

How do you come to this conclusion?

I've seen him play

Rogers hasn't done anything to warrant anyone's loyalty. At least TJack has started in the NFL. That's a lot more than I can say for Rogers.

TJack has looked like a deer in the headlights in nearly every start. In the only significant playing time Rogers got (against Dallas) he looked like a rising star

 

[AnonymousBob]

GB could have a poison pill put in place but why would they? Just deal him and be done with it. If another team flips him then all sides are happy. Then again, neither Favre nor Green Bay has shown they're willing to swallow some ego.

 

[Texican]

TT to have a press conference in about 10 minutes

 

[QUEZILLA]

Tampa is going to acquire Favre, and sell a ton of #4 jerseys. Then they will trade him to Minny.

 

[sho nuff]

not rumors.. TB has offered Griese, not Garcia and at least a conditional pick. Jets have offered a better package. source...rotoworld and Favre is not to happy GB is demanding more from TB. I don't think Minnisota is even in the running for Favre. It would be Rodgers Favre training camp competition part 2 staring Taveris Jackson and Brett Favre

TJack has looked like a deer in the headlights in nearly every start. In the only significant playing time Rogers got (against Dallas) he looked like a rising star.

I think you're confused. Culpepper always had the deer in headlights look. TJ will improve.Rodgers will not be good. I think he's fragile and the Pack will be starting Brohm at some point due to said fragility. The fans will be irate.

No...TJ did have that deer in the headlights look...and I have yet to see anything from him showing improvement.Rodgers used to have that look too though. That look was gone in that Dallas game. That is what I took from that game...I did not look at the stats...just how in control was Rodgers.I don't think he is as fragile as people are trying to make it.He broke his foot in the NE game...and kept playing on it for that game.He got hurt in practice after the dallas game and missed a few weeks...but did return...and IMO, would have played had they really needed him.Its too small of a sample size to really project his injury status at this point.He will look fragile as compared to Brett in all liklihood...though...so do 99% of the QBs in the league.

 

[sho nuff]

GB could have a poison pill put in place but why would they? Just deal him and be done with it. If another team flips him then all sides are happy. Then again, neither Favre nor Green Bay has shown they're willing to swallow some ego.

How are all sides happy if he ends up in Minny?Seriously...how is GB happy with that?

 

[mozzy84]

not rumors.. TB has offered Griese, not Garcia and at least a conditional pick. Jets have offered a better package. source...rotoworld and Favre is not to happy GB is demanding more from TB.

I don't think Minnisota is even in the running for Favre. It would be Rodgers Favre training camp competition part 2 staring Taveris Jackson and Brett Favre

TJack has looked like a deer in the headlights in nearly every start. In the only significant playing time Rogers got (against Dallas) he looked like a rising star.

I think you're confused. Culpepper always had the deer in headlights look. TJ will improve.Rodgers will not be good. I think he's fragile and the Pack will be starting Brohm at some point due to said fragility. The fans will be irate.

No...TJ did have that deer in the headlights look...and I have yet to see anything from him showing improvement.Rodgers used to have that look too though. That look was gone in that Dallas game. That is what I took from that game...I did not look at the stats...just how in control was Rodgers.

I don't think he is as fragile as people are trying to make it.

He broke his foot in the NE game...and kept playing on it for that game.

He got hurt in practice after the dallas game and missed a few weeks...but did return...and IMO, would have played had they really needed him.

Its too small of a sample size to really project his injury status at this point.

He will look fragile as compared to Brett in all liklihood...though...so do 99% of the QBs in the league.

the guy has hardly played, lets see the look he has when teams gameplan for him for a whole week.

 

[Kleck]

TT to have a press conference in about 10 minutes

GM Ted Thompson's press conference, scheduled for 11:30 a.m. today, has been delayed until sometime this afternoon. An update from Wednesday's morning practice also has been posted.

 

[Warhogs]

TT to have a press conference in about 10 minutes

GM Ted Thompson's press conference, scheduled for 11:30 a.m. today, has been delayed until sometime this afternoon. An update from Wednesday's morning practice also has been posted.

Dang. I am a Packers fan but even I am starting to grow tired of this soap opera. It seems like both sides are enjoying this? Let's announce a press conference and then announce another delay. Jeezus.

 

[Warhogs]

Where is the Favre tracker?

Someone must be watching this guy constantly and even knows the last time he farted. I am surprised nobody has reported what Favre ate for breakfast today.

 

[jestertj]

not rumors.. TB has offered Griese, not Garcia and at least a conditional pick. Jets have offered a better package. source...rotoworld and Favre is not to happy GB is demanding more from TB. I don't think Minnisota is even in the running for Favre. It would be Rodgers Favre training camp competition part 2 staring Taveris Jackson and Brett Favre

TJack has looked like a deer in the headlights in nearly every start. In the only significant playing time Rogers got (against Dallas) he looked like a rising star.

I think you're confused. Culpepper always had the deer in headlights look. TJ will improve.Rodgers will not be good. I think he's fragile and the Pack will be starting Brohm at some point due to said fragility. The fans will be irate.

No...TJ did have that deer in the headlights look...and I have yet to see anything from him showing improvement.Rodgers used to have that look too though. That look was gone in that Dallas game. That is what I took from that game...I did not look at the stats...just how in control was Rodgers.I don't think he is as fragile as people are trying to make it.He broke his foot in the NE game...and kept playing on it for that game.He got hurt in practice after the dallas game and missed a few weeks...but did return...and IMO, would have played had they really needed him.Its too small of a sample size to really project his injury status at this point.He will look fragile as compared to Brett in all liklihood...though...so do 99% of the QBs in the league.

If you're telling me TJ didn't improve last season as it wore on??? Wow. Take the cheese blinders off.You're willing to base Rodgers' ability on the 2 games he played in last season, but not his tendency to get hurt?

 

[jestertj]

not rumors.. TB has offered Griese, not Garcia and at least a conditional pick. Jets have offered a better package. source...rotoworld and Favre is not to happy GB is demanding more from TB.

I don't think Minnisota is even in the running for Favre. It would be Rodgers Favre training camp competition part 2 staring Taveris Jackson and Brett Favre

TJack has looked like a deer in the headlights in nearly every start. In the only significant playing time Rogers got (against Dallas) he looked like a rising star.

I think you're confused. Culpepper always had the deer in headlights look. TJ will improve.Rodgers will not be good. I think he's fragile and the Pack will be starting Brohm at some point due to said fragility. The fans will be irate.

No...TJ did have that deer in the headlights look...and I have yet to see anything from him showing improvement.Rodgers used to have that look too though. That look was gone in that Dallas game. That is what I took from that game...I did not look at the stats...just how in control was Rodgers.

I don't think he is as fragile as people are trying to make it.

He broke his foot in the NE game...and kept playing on it for that game.

He got hurt in practice after the dallas game and missed a few weeks...but did return...and IMO, would have played had they really needed him.

Its too small of a sample size to really project his injury status at this point.

He will look fragile as compared to Brett in all liklihood...though...so do 99% of the QBs in the league.

the guy has hardly played, lets see the look he has when teams gameplan for him for a whole week.

I think this is a great point when talking about any QB that hasn't played a whole lot.