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Another Ice Bowl in Green Bay on Sunday (1 Viewer)

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According to AccuWeather, the high will be minus-five degrees, the low will be minus-20 and the wind chill will be ... MINUS-51 DEGREES.
Gonna be fun.

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Yeah...it should be quite nasty out.

Just got back from up there yesterday.

Was really nasty Monday and Tuesday. Wind chills in the -20ish range.

They do have the heated field and keep it "tarped/tented".

But that field already looked like crap last month.

 
Is this why there's a problem selling it out? Has that been an issue in the past? Seem like as cold as that is, the fanatical Packerfans usually come out in it.

 
Hope for the packers fans going to Lambeau that this will have a better outcome than last time a warm weather team came calling in the playoffs...

Edited to remove 'dome': I somehow thought it was the Saints coming to visit :bag:

 
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Is this why there's a problem selling it out? Has that been an issue in the past? Seem like as cold as that is, the fanatical Packerfans usually come out in it.
Added seats, the cold nasty December, and sending out the invoices right after the Detroit game were major factors Id say.

 
Even though the Packers are at home, numbingly cold weather has to be an advantage for the Niners, no? It will negate Rodgers' greatness, and SF is more than comfortable with a power running scheme. Although it won't be much fun tackling Lacy either.

 
It will be hyped pretty good, but once you get below 15-20 degrees, it's all the same.
Nope. 15 is significantly better than -5.
Nope. It is cold no matter how you slice or dice it. Been below zero for much of the last 30 days here, but I will not be taking adding or taking off any layers of clothing when it the temps warm significantly and it reaches 15 degrees.
Silly. If it were -50 I bet you would. 15 is much warmer than -5. Just like 70 is much warmer than 50. You may wear same layers of clothing at -5 as at 15 but at 15 you will feel warmer because...wait for it...you actually are warmer...

 
I don't know what it is, but there is a temperature at which you lose all feeling in your extremities. I'll bet you wished it were 15 degrees warmer at that point.

 
It will be hyped pretty good, but once you get below 15-20 degrees, it's all the same.
Nope. 15 is significantly better than -5.
Nope. It is cold no matter how you slice or dice it. Been below zero for much of the last 30 days here, but I will not be taking adding or taking off any layers of clothing when it the temps warm significantly and it reaches 15 degrees.
Silly. If it were -50 I bet you would. 15 is much warmer than -5. Just like 70 is much warmer than 50. You may wear same layers of clothing at -5 as at 15 but at 15 you will feel warmer because...wait for it...you actually are warmer...
Then again, if it were 50 below....I doubt they would play the game, nor would I be out in it. Lived in these temps for over 50 years,(worked outside in them for the past 12 years) and it is cold either way. It is 8 degrees right now, but by golly it does not feel much different than this morning when it was 8 below. Sorry, but it is what it is. Cold is cold...

 
Even though the Packers are at home, numbingly cold weather has to be an advantage for the Niners, no? It will negate Rodgers' greatness, and SF is more than comfortable with a power running scheme. Although it won't be much fun tackling Lacy either.
Lacy gives them a fighting chance. SF has sucked vs the run this year.

 
I don't know what it is, but there is a temperature at which you lose all feeling in your extremities. I'll bet you wished it were 15 degrees warmer at that point.
This. 15-20 is tolerable. You don't hurt. Near or below 0, completely different story. I once had to do a paper route in -30. That's sick cold. The Govenor cancelled school across the state because of it.

On January 18, 1994 Governor Arne Carlson ordered all Minnesota public schools closed due to the extreme cold and severe winter weather. Morning air temperature readings were -26 degrees F in the Twin Cities at 9am with a wind chill temperature of -48 degrees F (by the 2001 formula).
http://climate.umn.edu/doc/journal/historic_windchills.htm
 
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I still can't believe the Chargers and Bengals played that '81 AFC Championship game in -59 weather (with the wind chill). I get that you don't want to take away Cincy's home field advantage, but don't you have to use a little common sense at that point?

 
I still can't believe the Chargers and Bengals played that '81 AFC Championship game in -59 weather (with the wind chill). I get that you don't want to take away Cincy's home field advantage, but don't you have to use a little common sense at that point?
From Wiki
Air temperature was −9 °F (−23 °C), but the wind chill, factoring in a sustained wind of 27 miles per hour (43 km/h), was −37 °F or −38 °C (calculated as −59 °F or −51 °C using the now outdated wind chill formula in place at the time).
Yea, that's not healthy.

 
I still can't believe the Chargers and Bengals played that '81 AFC Championship game in -59 weather (with the wind chill). I get that you don't want to take away Cincy's home field advantage, but don't you have to use a little common sense at that point?
From Wiki
Air temperature was −9 °F (−23 °C), but the wind chill, factoring in a sustained wind of 27 miles per hour (43 km/h), was −37 °F or −38 °C (calculated as −59 °F or −51 °C using the now outdated wind chill formula in place at the time).
Yea, that's not healthy.
The argument I don't like is that the weather that day cost the Air Coryell Chargers a Super Bowl berth.

They met earlier that year in sunny San Diego, and the Bengals pummeled them, 40-17.

 
Ironically, it won't be bad at all on Saturday (30 degrees) but Sunday is supposed to be right back to single digits.

It is tortuously cold outside in Wisconsin right now.

 
It will be hyped pretty good, but once you get below 15-20 degrees, it's all the same.
Nope. 15 is significantly better than -5.
Nope. It is cold no matter how you slice or dice it. Been below zero for much of the last 30 days here, but I will not be taking adding or taking off any layers of clothing when it the temps warm significantly and it reaches 15 degrees.
Silly. If it were -50 I bet you would. 15 is much warmer than -5. Just like 70 is much warmer than 50. You may wear same layers of clothing at -5 as at 15 but at 15 you will feel warmer because...wait for it...you actually are warmer...
Then again, if it were 50 below....I doubt they would play the game, nor would I be out in it. Lived in these temps for over 50 years,(worked outside in them for the past 12 years) and it is cold either way. It is 8 degrees right now, but by golly it does not feel much different than this morning when it was 8 below. Sorry, but it is what it is. Cold is cold...
And I've lived in this weather for 40 years. And been to the vast majority of cold weather Packer games. There is a huge difference between 15 and -5. When it is 15-ish degrees, I barely zip up my jacket. At -5, you had better stay fully bundled all game, because it is really tough to warm up once you get chilled.Was just up in way northern WI over the holidays. It was single digits temps on Sun morning. Walked across a frozen lake without any concerns. Next day it was -8 degrees. Similar wind speeds. Huge difference in ability to stay warm.

 
The Govenor cancelled school arias the state because of it. On January 18, 1994 Governor Arne Carlson ordered all Minnesota public schools closed due to the extreme cold and severe winter weather. Morning air temperature readings were -26 degrees F in the Twin Cities at 9am with a wind chill temperature of -48 degrees F (by the 2001 formula).
http://climate.umn.edu/doc/journal/historic_windchills.htm
That week was cold in Milwaukee as well. Had finals that week and school was cancelled for two days.Just checked weather.com, it's 0 tonight in Green Bay. Sure, it's cold but nothing too drastic. The Giants game was much colder. And, there is a big difference between -10 F, 5 F, and 20 F. 5 and 20 are tolerable but the other one is dreadful.

 
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So exactly how cold is cold then?
30-40, not cold, tolerable15-30, cold but manageable

0-15, pretty cold, uncomfortable

-10-0, very cold, very uncomfortable

-10 and lower, honestly dangerous
I'd agree however the 0-15 category, with enough layers, is pretty manageable... to me.
Now you're on a football field for 3+ hours, in short sleeves, as large men are slamming you to the ground every play.

 
So exactly how cold is cold then?
30-40, not cold, tolerable15-30, cold but manageable

0-15, pretty cold, uncomfortable

-10-0, very cold, very uncomfortable

-10 and lower, honestly dangerous
I'd agree however the 0-15 category, with enough layers, is pretty manageable... to me.
Now you're on a football field for 3+ hours, in short sleeves, as large men are slamming you to the ground every play.
l honestly think it would be worse to sit in the stands, not being able to move much...

 
There is a big difference between 15 degrees and 0 or below. Especially if you get any wind at all. Plus it's one thing to be moving around working in that cold, but to just be sitting in it for 3 hours is brutal. The high is currently predicted to be 0 degrees and once the sun goes down it will surely drop quickly. I would love to take my 7 year old sons to a Packer playoff game but I don't think I can pack enough layers on them to keep them warm in that weather. I suspect many others are thinking the same thing, thus the tickets still available.

The Packers inability to play defense is probably also a factor as nobody wants to go freeze and suffer through a painful loss and confidence in the pack is not real high right now although with Rodgers and Cobb back, thet at least have a chance.

 
i'll just throw my experience in here FWIW. I agree that there is definitely a point where the actual number you put on the cold makes no difference, i.e. cold is cold. I think the number is actually right around 0 though rather than 15. Spent a few winters in southeastern Idaho, where it was below zero for weeks at a time and i was out in it. I was honestly surprised one day when someone informed me the temp was 50 below; it didn't feel any different from the negative tens to teens it had been all week prior. anything below 0F is just damn cold and the only functional difference to someone out in it when it's between -10 and -50 is how worried you are about frostbite. the actual sensation of being cold is the same.

 
So exactly how cold is cold then?
30-40, not cold, tolerable15-30, cold but manageable

0-15, pretty cold, uncomfortable

-10-0, very cold, very uncomfortable

-10 and lower, honestly dangerous
I'd agree however the 0-15 category, with enough layers, is pretty manageable... to me.
Now you're on a football field for 3+ hours, in short sleeves, as large men are slamming you to the ground every play.
l honestly think it would be worse to sit in the stands, not being able to move much...
Much worse for the players imo.

 
The dividing line for me is -10. It is pretty easy to stay warm, assuming low winds, down to -10. If your active, I find it enjoyable. Walking the dogs in the morning I wear tennis shoes, not boots until it hits -10. If I am going to be sitting, then it is get out the PacBoots time however.

Below -10, it gets to be a chore to be outside. At -30 and lower its crazy. I have had iron rims on tires shrink enough to break the seal, car windows break when you open the door and car radiators freeze. Although at -30 you don't really need a radiator, so it's no problem.

 
Is this why there's a problem selling it out? Has that been an issue in the past? Seem like as cold as that is, the fanatical Packerfans usually come out in it.
In the original Ice Bowl when blue collar factory workers could afford to bring their families to see some football? No problem.

Today when the lowest seat price is over $100 and the same blue collar tough guys are unemployed or lucky to find part-time work? Big problem. What person with the disposable income to drop $1000 on a game (for good seats, with parking, drinks, food, etc.) wants to sit in 1F weather?

 
The dividing line for me is -10. It is pretty easy to stay warm, assuming low winds, down to -10. If your active, I find it enjoyable. Walking the dogs in the morning I wear tennis shoes, not boots until it hits -10. If I am going to be sitting, then it is get out the PacBoots time however.

Below -10, it gets to be a chore to be outside. At -30 and lower its crazy. I have had iron rims on tires shrink enough to break the seal, car windows break when you open the door and car radiators freeze. Although at -30 you don't really need a radiator, so it's no problem.
How do you guys live in conditions like that? I get cold when the temp drops to 50 degrees of course I have orange juice for blood.There is no way I would step outside much less attend a game in those conditions.
 
I am not suggesting this, or an advocate, I just would not be surprised if-

They altered the format of the game some way. Longer halftime or allow the players to go in after each quarter for an extended period of time.

Nothings Shocking........

 
I am not suggesting this, or an advocate, I just would not be surprised if-

They altered the format of the game some way. Longer halftime or allow the players to go in after each quarter for an extended period of time.

Nothings Shocking........
The players have heaters on the sidelines. No need for anything like that.

 
Bandwagon fans....what can one expect from packer fans anyway? They see the writing on the wall...they will get pounded by the Niners this weekend. You do not get lucky TDs every week when a D forgets to pick up a fumble or leaves a WR wide open.

 
It's all about the wind.... if it is 0 and above with little to no wind it's tolerable. Anything 15 or lower with wind is very uncomfortable.

 
It will be hyped pretty good, but once you get below 15-20 degrees, it's all the same.
Nope. 15 is significantly better than -5.
Nope. It is cold no matter how you slice or dice it. Been below zero for much of the last 30 days here, but I will not be taking adding or taking off any layers of clothing when it the temps warm significantly and it reaches 15 degrees.
Silly. If it were -50 I bet you would. 15 is much warmer than -5. Just like 70 is much warmer than 50. You may wear same layers of clothing at -5 as at 15 but at 15 you will feel warmer because...wait for it...you actually are warmer...
Then again, if it were 50 below....I doubt they would play the game, nor would I be out in it. Lived in these temps for over 50 years,(worked outside in them for the past 12 years) and it is cold either way. It is 8 degrees right now, but by golly it does not feel much different than this morning when it was 8 below. Sorry, but it is what it is. Cold is cold...
And I've lived in this weather for 40 years. And been to the vast majority of cold weather Packer games. There is a huge difference between 15 and -5. When it is 15-ish degrees, I barely zip up my jacket. At -5, you had better stay fully bundled all game, because it is really tough to warm up once you get chilled.Was just up in way northern WI over the holidays. It was single digits temps on Sun morning. Walked across a frozen lake without any concerns. Next day it was -8 degrees. Similar wind speeds. Huge difference in ability to stay warm.
You guys are such hard asses.
 
Rotoworld:

The projected high for Sunday in Green Bay is -5 degrees.

In other words, Green Bay and San Francisco are going to be playing in Ice Bowl-esque temperatures. Per AccuWeather.com, temperatures are expected to hover near -7 degrees at 5PM CT, with the wind chill plunging to near -30 degrees. If the forecast holds, it will be one of the coldest games in NFL history. It's weather so unbelievably cold that it's unlikely to provide much of an advantage for the Pack. Both teams are going to suffer. Sunday is going to be about survival on the Frozen Tundra.

Related: 49ers

Source: accuweather.com
 
Bandwagon fans....what can one expect from packer fans anyway? They see the writing on the wall...they will get pounded by the Niners this weekend. You do not get lucky TDs every week when a D forgets to pick up a fumble or leaves a WR wide open.
Lol sweetness, the gift that keeps giving. That game was so much fun. Listening to Chicago sports radio in the cab from Soldier to Union Station post game was hilarious. So much anger...

 
It will be hyped pretty good, but once you get below 15-20 degrees, it's all the same.
Poppycock.

Once you get down under 10 maybe but 15 is a lot different the 0.
Sorry, but cold is cold no matter if it is 15 above or 15 below. Dress properly and be prepared mentally for the bitter temperatures, and you can go about your day. Going to be 15 below tonight, (although to throw in some more hyperbole...it will be 45 below wind chill), and being outside will be no more stressful tomorrow than it was today at 5-10 above.

I always laugh at the people that, come April in Wisconsin and the temperature hits 45-50 degrees, they shed their jackets and even wear shorts and welcome the warmth. Then come October and the temperature hits 45-50 degrees, they put on pants, long sleeve shirts, and coats and complain about the cold.

 
It will be hyped pretty good, but once you get below 15-20 degrees, it's all the same.
Poppycock.Once you get down under 10 maybe but 15 is a lot different the 0.
Sorry, but cold is cold no matter if it is 15 above or 15 below. Dress properly and be prepared mentally for the bitter temperatures, and you can go about your day. Going to be 15 below tonight, (although to throw in some more hyperbole...it will be 45 below wind chill), and being outside will be no more stressful tomorrow than it was today at 5-10 above. I always laugh at the people that, come April in Wisconsin and the temperature hits 45-50 degrees, they shed their jackets and even wear shorts and welcome the warmth. Then come October and the temperature hits 45-50 degrees, they put on pants, long sleeve shirts, and coats and complain about the cold.
It is fun to see you continue to be so adamant about such a ridiculous viewpoint.
 
Bandwagon fans....what can one expect from packer fans anyway? They see the writing on the wall...they will get pounded by the Niners this weekend. You do not get lucky TDs every week when a D forgets to pick up a fumble or leaves a WR wide open.
SO much funny when Bears fan starts running his mouth.

 
Rotoworld:

The projected high for Sunday in Green Bay is -5 degrees.

In other words, Green Bay and San Francisco are going to be playing in Ice Bowl-esque temperatures. Per AccuWeather.com, temperatures are expected to hover near -7 degrees at 5PM CT, with the wind chill plunging to near -30 degrees. If the forecast holds, it will be one of the coldest games in NFL history. It's weather so unbelievably cold that it's unlikely to provide much of an advantage for the Pack. Both teams are going to suffer. Sunday is going to be about survival on the Frozen Tundra.

Related: 49ers

Source: accuweather.com
:football:

THIS was in my head while reading that.

 
Rotoworld:

The projected high for Sunday in Green Bay is -5 degrees.

In other words, Green Bay and San Francisco are going to be playing in Ice Bowl-esque temperatures. Per AccuWeather.com, temperatures are expected to hover near -7 degrees at 5PM CT, with the wind chill plunging to near -30 degrees. If the forecast holds, it will be one of the coldest games in NFL history. It's weather so unbelievably cold that it's unlikely to provide much of an advantage for the Pack. Both teams are going to suffer. Sunday is going to be about survival on the Frozen Tundra.

Related: 49ers

Source: accuweather.com
i was thinking how much someone would have to pay me to go to the game. I figured i'd do it for $500.

Anyone paying to go to this game is insane.

 
It will be hyped pretty good, but once you get below 15-20 degrees, it's all the same.
Poppycock.Once you get down under 10 maybe but 15 is a lot different the 0.
Agreed, I understand what you are saying Underachiever but you can't jut say once it is 15 out, it's the same as -5 or -10.

You lose feeling quicker, that right there will cause a multitude of problems.

The passing game will be limited, advantage 49ers. You have a rushing Qb in Kaep and a better D in S.F, advantage 49ers.

 

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