Any Bigger First Round Bust (1 Viewer)

[Statorama]

Robert Meachem, last years first round pick of the Saints, didn't play a single minute on the active roster last year.

Have there been any other first round picks in recent memory that never played a minute on a professional football team's active roster? Not due to inury, but simply because they were lazy like Meachem.

I mean, Mandarich and Leaf were huge busts, but at least they logged some minutes as NFL players.

 

[mcintyre1]

Meachem was injured?

 

[Statorama]

Meachem was injured?

During the pre-season, but definitely NOT during week 17.

 

[Statorama]

I did fail to mention that Meachem had All-Pro Terrance Copper ahead of him on the depth chart, so that should be noted.

 

[KoolKat]

I don't think anybody whatsoever thought he was going to be as bad as he is. He isn't even one of the 45 best players on his own team.

 

[Statorama]

I should also mention that he caught a TD in the pre-season, so I guess technically he was on the Saints active roster then. Ugh.

 

[MAC_32]

Meachem missed mini camp due to injury, parts of training camp for the same reason, and was slowed in training camp when he did play...because of injury. He began the year inactive and the "band aids" [Patten and Moore] erformed much better than expectations. Payton mentioned sometime midseason that he felt Meachem had made a lot strides recently, but he didn't want to mess with the team's chemistry by inserting him into the lineup at that time. If the Saints had fallen out of the playoff race sooner maybe we'd have seen him play late in the season, but they were still alive until the end. Calling him a bust at this time is just plain dumb; this time next year? Then you'd have a case.

 

[Statorama]

Meachem missed mini camp due to injury, parts of training camp for the same reason, and was slowed in training camp when he did play...because of injury. He began the year inactive and the "band aids" [Patten and Moore] erformed much better than expectations. Payton mentioned sometime midseason that he felt Meachem had made a lot strides recently, but he didn't want to mess with the team's chemistry by inserting him into the lineup at that time. If the Saints had fallen out of the playoff race sooner maybe we'd have seen him play late in the season, but they were still alive until the end. Calling him a bust at this time is just plain dumb; this time next year? Then you'd have a case.

Damn Meachem apologists.A first round pick can't crack the Lance Moore / Terrance Copper / Devery Henderson trio?If the guy even showed a hint of a flash, he would have at least been activated that last week to see what he could do.

 

[FTRWRTR]

Meachem missed mini camp due to injury, parts of training camp for the same reason, and was slowed in training camp when he did play...because of injury. He began the year inactive and the "band aids" [Patten and Moore] erformed much better than expectations. Payton mentioned sometime midseason that he felt Meachem had made a lot strides recently, but he didn't want to mess with the team's chemistry by inserting him into the lineup at that time. If the Saints had fallen out of the playoff race sooner maybe we'd have seen him play late in the season, but they were still alive until the end. Calling him a bust at this time is just plain dumb; this time next year? Then you'd have a case.

Damn Meachem apologists.A first round pick can't crack the Lance Moore / Terrance Copper / Devery Henderson trio?If the guy even showed a hint of a flash, he would have at least been activated that last week to see what he could do.

why don't you just admit that you hate meacham...ppl have given you evidence that the guy battled injury throughout but you're still confident that "if he was any good he would've played." To dismiss him as lazy is stupid

 

[Statorama]

Meachem missed mini camp due to injury, parts of training camp for the same reason, and was slowed in training camp when he did play...because of injury. He began the year inactive and the "band aids" [Patten and Moore] erformed much better than expectations. Payton mentioned sometime midseason that he felt Meachem had made a lot strides recently, but he didn't want to mess with the team's chemistry by inserting him into the lineup at that time. If the Saints had fallen out of the playoff race sooner maybe we'd have seen him play late in the season, but they were still alive until the end. Calling him a bust at this time is just plain dumb; this time next year? Then you'd have a case.

Damn Meachem apologists.A first round pick can't crack the Lance Moore / Terrance Copper / Devery Henderson trio?If the guy even showed a hint of a flash, he would have at least been activated that last week to see what he could do.

why don't you just admit that you hate meacham...ppl have given you evidence that the guy battled injury throughout but you're still confident that "if he was any good he would've played."

He wasn't injured all year, in fact, he played during the pre-season

 

[Statorama]

It'd be different if the guy cared, but he's too busy counting that 5.71M guarenteed that the Saints laid out.

"Robert Meachem : Robbing the Saints since April 2007"

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I never liked him. couldn't believe people thought he'd be better than Bowe.

but, WRs normally take some time to adjust. he might still pan out.

 

[MAC_32]

Meachem missed mini camp due to injury, parts of training camp for the same reason, and was slowed in training camp when he did play...because of injury. He began the year inactive and the "band aids" [Patten and Moore] erformed much better than expectations. Payton mentioned sometime midseason that he felt Meachem had made a lot strides recently, but he didn't want to mess with the team's chemistry by inserting him into the lineup at that time. If the Saints had fallen out of the playoff race sooner maybe we'd have seen him play late in the season, but they were still alive until the end. Calling him a bust at this time is just plain dumb; this time next year? Then you'd have a case.

Damn Meachem apologists.A first round pick can't crack the Lance Moore / Terrance Copper / Devery Henderson trio?If the guy even showed a hint of a flash, he would have at least been activated that last week to see what he could do.

why don't you just admit that you hate meacham...ppl have given you evidence that the guy battled injury throughout but you're still confident that "if he was any good he would've played."

He wasn't injured all year, in fact, he played during the pre-season

Yes, he played injured, as I mentioned previously. He was still slowed from offseason surgery, which is why he began the season inactive. Payton mentioned midseason that Meachem was showing that explosiveness that the Saints drafted him for in practice but the coach didn't want to mess with the team's chemistry midseason. This isn't so far fetched, what coach in contention would fix something that's not broken midseason? A bad one. Am I correct to assume you're the same person who thought Carson Plamer was bust becuase he didn't play his first season? Behind a veteran journeyman Jon Kitna? Yea, he sucks horribly. Now is Meachem going to turn it around? I don't know, but this piling on is ridiculous.

 

[Statorama]

Meachem missed mini camp due to injury, parts of training camp for the same reason, and was slowed in training camp when he did play...because of injury. He began the year inactive and the "band aids" [Patten and Moore] erformed much better than expectations. Payton mentioned sometime midseason that he felt Meachem had made a lot strides recently, but he didn't want to mess with the team's chemistry by inserting him into the lineup at that time. If the Saints had fallen out of the playoff race sooner maybe we'd have seen him play late in the season, but they were still alive until the end. Calling him a bust at this time is just plain dumb; this time next year? Then you'd have a case.

Damn Meachem apologists.A first round pick can't crack the Lance Moore / Terrance Copper / Devery Henderson trio?

If the guy even showed a hint of a flash, he would have at least been activated that last week to see what he could do.

why don't you just admit that you hate meacham...ppl have given you evidence that the guy battled injury throughout but you're still confident that "if he was any good he would've played."

He wasn't injured all year, in fact, he played during the pre-season

Yes, he played injured, as I mentioned previously. He was still slowed from offseason surgery, which is why he began the season inactive. Payton mentioned midseason that Meachem was showing that explosiveness that the Saints drafted him for in practice but the coach didn't want to mess with the team's chemistry midseason. This isn't so far fetched, what coach in contention would fix something that's not broken midseason? A bad one. Am I correct to assume you're the same person who thought Carson Plamer was bust becuase he didn't play his first season? Behind a veteran journeyman Jon Kitna? Yea, he sucks horribly. Now is Meachem going to turn it around? I don't know, but this piling on is ridiculous.

There were differences with Carson Palmer. Carson Palmer was drafted while the team had a veteran QB playing well, so there really wasn't a need for him to play right away. QB is the most important player on the field, and it serves them a world of good if they can take a year on the sidelines to learn the position. A WR only needs to worry about their route or blocking assignment, while the QB has to know how all the parts are running.The Saints had a glaring hole at WR all year long. Even Robert Colston started slowly. Meachem had Lance Moore in front of him (a player that the Saints had themselves previously cut), not a player that was playing at the calibre that Kitna was.

Meachem had every road to being a starter open to him, yet he couldn't even crack the active ROSTER.

Good old Robert "Last on the practice field, first one off" Meachem is, was, and always will be a bust.

Edit to add: just a note, the Jon Kitna that Carson Palmer sat on the bench for completed 62% of his passes for over 3600 yards and 26 TDs.

 

[bostonfred]

Buddy Allen was arguably a bigger first round bust. Drafted in the first round in 1960 by the Boston Patriots, he didn't play a single game. The next year, he had three rushes for -4 yards for Denver. He never played another game again. Like Meachem he never played a regular snap his first year, but Allen raised the bar by actually hurting his team in each of the three attempts he got the following year.

 

[Statorama]

Buddy Allen was arguably a bigger first round bust. Drafted in the first round in 1960 by the Boston Patriots, he didn't play a single game. The next year, he had three rushes for -4 yards for Denver. He never played another game again. Like Meachem he never played a regular snap his first year, but Allen raised the bar by actually hurting his team in each of the three attempts he got the following year.

That's a good one

 

[rzrback77]

Meachem had every road to being a starter open to him, yet he couldn't even crack the active ROSTER.

Good old Robert "Last on the practice field, first one off" Meachem is, was, and always will be a bust.

Edit to add: just a note, the Jon Kitna that Carson Palmer sat on the bench for completed 62% of his passes for over 3600 yards and 26 TDs.

I went to a couple of pre-season practices and this was not true. I saw he and Brees and Patten on two occasions running routes while most had left or were signing autographs.

 

[Peyton Marino]

mike williams down?

 

[Statorama]

mike williams down?

He's been on the active roster several times. At least he contributes to the team somehow.In fact, he's even got two TD's on his resume

 

[Peyton Marino]

mike williams down?

He's been on the active roster several times. At least he contributes to the team somehow.In fact, he's even got two TD's on his resume

he was hyped much more than meachem was, though.

 

[loose circuits]

wow, not sure how somebody could build up all this hatred towards one guy.

When a rookie WR misses OTA and some of camp they fall behind the learning curve. Same thing happened to Vincent Jackson his rookie year. It's difficult to learn the offense on the run while the #1 offense is preparing a game plan for the next opponent, so you basically end up taking a redshirt year. Meachem may or may not be fine, but Patten, Henderson, and Moore all played 'just' good enough to keep him off the field this year. With Henderson likely out the door, I can see him cracking the line-up next season. The special teams factor also should be considered which is why Copper was active ahead of him...

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I think Statorama wants to trade for him in a dynasty league. Doing a great job of lowering the value.

 

[Statorama]

mike williams down?

He's been on the active roster several times. At least he contributes to the team somehow.In fact, he's even got two TD's on his resume

he was hyped much more than meachem was, though.

Granted, the NFL graveyard is littered with Cade McNown's...but I was looking for guys that never cracked the active roster (although Bostonfred came up with a great choice otherwise)

 

[Statorama]

wow, not sure how somebody could build up all this hatred towards one guy.When a rookie WR misses OTA and some of camp they fall behind the learning curve. Same thing happened to Vincent Jackson his rookie year. It's difficult to learn the offense on the run while the #1 offense is preparing a game plan for the next opponent, so you basically end up taking a redshirt year. Meachem may or may not be fine, but Patten, Henderson, and Moore all played 'just' good enough to keep him off the field this year. With Henderson likely out the door, I can see him cracking the line-up next season. The special teams factor also should be considered which is why Copper was active ahead of him...

Good point about special teams. Meachem is worthless there, especially when compared to Moore who by all accounts looks like a guy that just 'wants it more' than Meachem.

 

[az_prof]

Only a neophyte would try and call a WR a bust after one season. Very few WRs show what they can do in the first year. There was positive news about Meachem from Payton and Brees near the end of the year. We'll have to watch him in preseason to update our judgements. Obviously he had a disappointing season--but saavy fantasy football players know that a rookie season does not project well for a career.

 

[Statorama]

Only a neophyte would try and call a WR a bust after one season. Very few WRs show what they can do in the first year. There was positive news about Meachem from Payton and Brees near the end of the year. We'll have to watch him in preseason to update our judgements. Obviously he had a disappointing season--but saavy fantasy football players know that a rookie season does not project well for a career.

I know what you're saying, but for a first round pick (with $5.71M in guarenteed money with no players blocking his path) to not even log a SECOND on an active roster cannot be considered anything short of a disgrace.

 

[Couch Potato]

You guys are nuts.

You're going to feel pretty foolish when he's starting opposite Colston in 2008, racking up big stats in that 4,000+ yard passing machine in New Orleans.

Did I mention HC Payton has already said (within the last 2-3 weeks) he'll be in competition for the starting job this year? And he'll get the job. He's going to be far from a bust. Never let a rookie year alone make up your mind on long term value. I thought people would have learned that by now, but I guess not.

But go ahead and believe what you believe. This kind of thinking just makes him that much easier to get for chump change from guys who quit on him prematurely.

 

[Statorama]

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[Statorama]

You guys are nuts.You're going to feel pretty foolish when he's starting opposite Colston in 2008, racking up big stats in that 4,000+ yard passing machine in New Orleans.Did I mention HC Payton has already said (within the last 2-3 weeks) he'll be in competition for the starting job this year? And he'll get the job. He's going to be far from a bust. Never let a rookie year alone make up your mind on long term value. I thought people would have learned that by now, but I guess not.But go ahead and believe what you believe. This kind of thinking just makes him that much easier to get for chump change from guys who quit on him prematurely.

I'm a Saints fan, so I'd love to be wrong.He's just been lazy and worthless thus far.

 

[Statorama]

You guys are nuts.

To be fair, I'm the only one in the thread saying he's a bust.

 

[Couch Potato]

You guys are nuts.You're going to feel pretty foolish when he's starting opposite Colston in 2008, racking up big stats in that 4,000+ yard passing machine in New Orleans.Did I mention HC Payton has already said (within the last 2-3 weeks) he'll be in competition for the starting job this year? And he'll get the job. He's going to be far from a bust. Never let a rookie year alone make up your mind on long term value. I thought people would have learned that by now, but I guess not.But go ahead and believe what you believe. This kind of thinking just makes him that much easier to get for chump change from guys who quit on him prematurely.

I'm a Saints fan, so I'd love to be wrong.He's just been lazy and worthless thus far.

No, he was hurt early on. If you'll do a little reading instead of posting out of your ###, you'd know that over the last half of the season he impressed the coaches quite a bit in practices, was very active and committed to improvement. You honestly don't know what you're talking about, and it's a shame you are posting this kind of crap because it only serves to mislead others here on the board.

 

[Statorama]

You guys are nuts.You're going to feel pretty foolish when he's starting opposite Colston in 2008, racking up big stats in that 4,000+ yard passing machine in New Orleans.Did I mention HC Payton has already said (within the last 2-3 weeks) he'll be in competition for the starting job this year? And he'll get the job. He's going to be far from a bust. Never let a rookie year alone make up your mind on long term value. I thought people would have learned that by now, but I guess not.But go ahead and believe what you believe. This kind of thinking just makes him that much easier to get for chump change from guys who quit on him prematurely.

I'm a Saints fan, so I'd love to be wrong.He's just been lazy and worthless thus far.

No, he was hurt early on. If you'll do a little reading instead of posting out of your ###, you'd know that over the last half of the season he impressed the coaches quite a bit in practices, was very active and committed to improvement. You honestly don't know what you're talking about, and it's a shame you are posting this kind of crap because it only serves to mislead others here on the board.

I thought we were supposed to be excellent to each other around here?I didn't attack you personally on your post, and I don't know why you felt it necessary to do it.He had knee surgery in the offseason, but was well enough to play in the Saints pre-season games (even catching a TD). But once the pre-season was over, and Coach Payton had to select the guys he felt would help the Saints be victorious, he consistently told Meachem to go to the end of the line.You can attack me personally all you want, but YOU should check the facts as well.

 

[Lord Lucan]

It's a really sad story because of the Bipolar issues, but this thread has to start and end with Dimetrius Underwood. First-round pick but didn't last a day of training camp and was cut before the regular season began.

 

[Statorama]

It's a really sad story because of the Bipolar issues, but this thread has to start and end with Dimetrius Underwood. First-round pick but didn't last a day of training camp and was cut before the regular season began.

Nail, meet head. Great post./thread

 

[Slinger]

I think Statorama wants to trade for him in a dynasty league. Doing a great job of lowering the value.

Either that or Meachem slept with his girlfriend. I would wait another year before calling him a bust as it's way too early to do so with a WR.

 

[Statorama]

I think Statorama wants to trade for him in a dynasty league. Doing a great job of lowering the value.

Either that or Meachem slept with his girlfriend. I would wait another year before calling him a bust as it's way too early to do so with a WR.

Meachem just throws up all the red flags you see from a typical bust.The first, of course, is that lack of effort, that willingness to push yourself as hard as possible.There are those in this thread that criticise my stance, but answer me this....With the guarenteed money, the lack of quality players ahead of him, the noteriety of being a first round pick, and the Saints in desperate need of a playmaker...If Meachem had shown ANYTHING in practice, wouldn't he have at least seen the active roster once?At some point, Meachem has to do something to MAKE the Saints play him. He has to push so hard in practice that Coach Payton CAN'T keep him off the field.

 

[loose circuits]

I think Statorama wants to trade for him in a dynasty league. Doing a great job of lowering the value.

Either that or Meachem slept with his girlfriend. I would wait another year before calling him a bust as it's way too early to do so with a WR.

Meachem just throws up all the red flags you see from a typical bust.The first, of course, is that lack of effort, that willingness to push yourself as hard as possible.There are those in this thread that criticise my stance, but answer me this....With the guarenteed money, the lack of quality players ahead of him, the noteriety of being a first round pick, and the Saints in desperate need of a playmaker...If Meachem had shown ANYTHING in practice, wouldn't he have at least seen the active roster once?At some point, Meachem has to do something to MAKE the Saints play him. He has to push so hard in practice that Coach Payton CAN'T keep him off the field.

dude, you keep repeating the same things over and over. I don't think you are going to convince anybody.Your missing the fact that Payton said positive things about him at the end of the year. He has been practicing hard...he'll have an opportunity next season to prove himself once again.

 

[Statorama]

I think Statorama wants to trade for him in a dynasty league. Doing a great job of lowering the value.

Either that or Meachem slept with his girlfriend. I would wait another year before calling him a bust as it's way too early to do so with a WR.

Meachem just throws up all the red flags you see from a typical bust.The first, of course, is that lack of effort, that willingness to push yourself as hard as possible.There are those in this thread that criticise my stance, but answer me this....With the guarenteed money, the lack of quality players ahead of him, the noteriety of being a first round pick, and the Saints in desperate need of a playmaker...If Meachem had shown ANYTHING in practice, wouldn't he have at least seen the active roster once?At some point, Meachem has to do something to MAKE the Saints play him. He has to push so hard in practice that Coach Payton CAN'T keep him off the field.

dude, you keep repeating the same things over and over. I don't think you are going to convince anybody.Your missing the fact that Payton said positive things about him at the end of the year. He has been practicing hard...he'll have an opportunity next season to prove himself once again.

Payton had the ultimate opportunity to say something nice about Meachem by putting him on the active roster.

 

[champ24]

Robert Meachem, last years first round pick of the Saints, didn't play a single minute on the active roster last year.Have there been any other first round picks in recent memory that never played a minute on a professional football team's active roster? Not due to inury, but simply because they were lazy like Meachem.I mean, Mandarich and Leaf were huge busts, but at least they logged some minutes as NFL players.

Not a skill player (boy is that an understatement) but add Andre Johnson OT/Redskins into the mix.Late first rounder and never played a down in the regular season.And Casserly traded up to get him

 

[loose circuits]

Payton had the ultimate opportunity to say something nice about Meachem by putting him on the active roster.

this is the 8th time you've said the same thing. They didn't want to mess with a good thing. Patten and Moore were both playing decent. You mess with team chemistry by deactivating them. In addition, I have already mentioned (which you failed to reply to while repeating the same things over and over) that it takes a WR a long time to learn the offense. When they miss the OTA's and some of camp, they aren't ready to digest the entire playbook. In addition it is difficult to learn on the fly while most of the 1st team reps go to the guys that are familiar with the offense and are focusing on the next week's game plan. It's almost impossible to make it. Similar thing happened to Jason Hill. In a timing offense like the Saints run you need to play the guys that are always on the same page especially when you are fighting for a playoff spot. It is way too early to give up on Meachem just based on the entire basis of your argument that he didn't see the field. WR's can take up to 4 or 5 years (sometimes even longer) before they fully develop. 1 lost season is not a big deal to me

 

[Statorama]

And Casserly traded up to get him

Those really hurt

 

[Statorama]

Payton had the ultimate opportunity to say something nice about Meachem by putting him on the active roster.

this is the 8th time you've said the same thing. They didn't want to mess with a good thing. Patten and Moore were both playing decent. You mess with team chemistry by deactivating them. In addition, I have already mentioned (which you failed to reply to while repeating the same things over and over) that it takes a WR a long time to learn the offense. When they miss the OTA's and some of camp, they aren't ready to digest the entire playbook. In addition it is difficult to learn on the fly while most of the 1st team reps go to the guys that are familiar with the offense and are focusing on the next week's game plan. It's almost impossible to make it. Similar thing happened to Jason Hill. In a timing offense like the Saints run you need to play the guys that are always on the same page especially when you are fighting for a playoff spot. It is way too early to give up on Meachem just based on the entire basis of your argument that he didn't see the field. WR's can take up to 4 or 5 years (sometimes even longer) before they fully develop. 1 lost season is not a big deal to me

Sorry I missed that point before, but I will address it now.It didn't take Dwayne Bowe or Anthony Gonzalez a whole season to figure the position out.

Edit to add: Before someone says 'but they played during the pre-season', I will repeat (sorry, again) that Meachem did play during the pre-season.

 

[loose circuits]

Payton had the ultimate opportunity to say something nice about Meachem by putting him on the active roster.

this is the 8th time you've said the same thing. They didn't want to mess with a good thing. Patten and Moore were both playing decent. You mess with team chemistry by deactivating them. In addition, I have already mentioned (which you failed to reply to while repeating the same things over and over) that it takes a WR a long time to learn the offense. When they miss the OTA's and some of camp, they aren't ready to digest the entire playbook. In addition it is difficult to learn on the fly while most of the 1st team reps go to the guys that are familiar with the offense and are focusing on the next week's game plan. It's almost impossible to make it. Similar thing happened to Jason Hill. In a timing offense like the Saints run you need to play the guys that are always on the same page especially when you are fighting for a playoff spot. It is way too early to give up on Meachem just based on the entire basis of your argument that he didn't see the field. WR's can take up to 4 or 5 years (sometimes even longer) before they fully develop. 1 lost season is not a big deal to me

Sorry I missed that point before, but I will address it now.It didn't take Dwayne Bowe or Anthony Gonzalez a whole season to figure the position out.

that's great for them...it did take an injury to Kennison and Harrison before they busted into the starting line-up. Also, they didn't miss most of OTA's and training camp. In addition, some blossom sooner than others. Some peak and then fizzle. WR's are up and down you just never know. Some of the best WR's of the past 20 years took a long time before they truly breakout.

 

[Statorama]

Love the discussion guys. Easiest way to prove me wrong is to bump this if/when Robert Meachem takes a spot on the active roster.

Until then, he's a bust.

 

[Statorama]

Payton had the ultimate opportunity to say something nice about Meachem by putting him on the active roster.

this is the 8th time you've said the same thing. They didn't want to mess with a good thing. Patten and Moore were both playing decent. You mess with team chemistry by deactivating them. In addition, I have already mentioned (which you failed to reply to while repeating the same things over and over) that it takes a WR a long time to learn the offense. When they miss the OTA's and some of camp, they aren't ready to digest the entire playbook. In addition it is difficult to learn on the fly while most of the 1st team reps go to the guys that are familiar with the offense and are focusing on the next week's game plan. It's almost impossible to make it. Similar thing happened to Jason Hill. In a timing offense like the Saints run you need to play the guys that are always on the same page especially when you are fighting for a playoff spot. It is way too early to give up on Meachem just based on the entire basis of your argument that he didn't see the field. WR's can take up to 4 or 5 years (sometimes even longer) before they fully develop. 1 lost season is not a big deal to me

Sorry I missed that point before, but I will address it now.It didn't take Dwayne Bowe or Anthony Gonzalez a whole season to figure the position out.

that's great for them...it did take an injury to Kennison and Harrison before they busted into the starting line-up. Also, they didn't miss most of OTA's and training camp. In addition, some blossom sooner than others. Some peak and then fizzle. WR's are up and down you just never know. Some of the best WR's of the past 20 years took a long time before they truly breakout.

Fair enough, and well said.

 

[Zigg]

I've never read anywhere that Meachem is lazy. This discussion is pointless for at least one more season, but that's what the offseason is for. I personally am looking forward to Colston/Meachem for a very long time.

 

[SproutDaddy]

I personally am looking forward to Colston/Meachem for a very long time.

I share your optimism, but I personally wish we had drafted Olsen or Poz at that pick.

 

[Statorama]

I've never read anywhere that Meachem is lazy.

Yeah you did, I said it a few posts ago.

 

[gregjcross]

You guys are nuts.You're going to feel pretty foolish when he's starting opposite Colston in 2008, racking up big stats in that 4,000+ yard passing machine in New Orleans.Did I mention HC Payton has already said (within the last 2-3 weeks) he'll be in competition for the starting job this year? And he'll get the job. He's going to be far from a bust. Never let a rookie year alone make up your mind on long term value. I thought people would have learned that by now, but I guess not.But go ahead and believe what you believe. This kind of thinking just makes him that much easier to get for chump change from guys who quit on him prematurely. l

Staritng next year? Wow that is a BOLD statement about Meacham. Its happened before, WR Eric Moulds came out of nowhere to be a star in his third year. I believe he was a first or early second rounder

 

[Statorama]

I got two pages out of this?