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With my draft coming up this weekend, I am very interested in finding out what Maroney's status is.

I know he is still wearing the red, no-contact jersey in practice, but does anybody hear what the word is out of New England. I mean, I haven't even heard confirmation that he will be ready to go for the season opener.

Homers with any inside scoop, I would appreciate hearing from you.

Thanks.

 
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keep an eye out for Mike Reiss on Boston.com.

he's an excellent resource for all things Patriots.

Here's his latest on Maroney:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...h_is_hands_off/

The approach is hands-off

By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff | August 15, 2007

FOXBOROUGH -- In San Diego, running back LaDainian Tomlinson will not play a snap in the preseason, a decision designed to protect one of the Chargers' most valuable assets. Might the Patriots take the same approach with Laurence Maroney?

If they do, Maroney doesn't believe it will affect him come the regular season.

"I can definitely say I'd be ready to go if I didn't play in the preseason," he said.

The thought sheds light on one of the more important subplots through the first 21 practices of Patriots training camp: the management of Maroney's health.

After undergoing offseason shoulder surgery, Maroney has yet to pull on his regular No. 39 jersey, instead donning a red noncontact jersey. He did not play in the team's preseason opener last Friday night in Tampa and probably won't suit up this Friday against the Titans, the second of four preseason games.

Yesterday, when the Patriots were working on a physical inside running drill, Maroney did not participate. Yet in other drills, he is starting to do more.

How does he feel?

"The body is feeling good," he said. "I've been doing a bit more contact and it's just feeling real good. Hopefully -- you ask Bill [belichick] because I don't know when -- I'll be out of the red sometime soon."

Yet the Patriots might be wise to adopt the Chargers' approach, and keep Maroney in red.

San Diego general manager A.J. Smith said the Chargers kept Tomlinson out of preseason games last year, and after seeing how he performed in the regular season -- a career-high 1,815 rushing yards -- they felt it was the right thing to do again.

"I'd never force an opinion on another club, but our feeling is that if he's going to get hit, let it be in a real game, then adjust," Smith explained. "We stop him from the collisions, but his practices are high-intensity. Each play, he'll finish it, going 60 yards at a full clip.

"We give him a little thumping every now and then, but he won't get that first big hit until the first game. Once he gets that over with, it's like riding a bike."

While Tomlinson and Maroney are not in the same class as players, their value to their teams is more similar.

The Patriots are relying on Maroney to carry a heavier workload than the 175 attempts and 745 yards he totaled in 2006.

So as he works his way toward a full recovery, is it worth exposing him to injury in the preseason? If Maroney had his choice, he would like a few carries before the Sept. 9 opener against the Jets.

"Hopefully, I do play," he said. "I can come out here and practice against the defense full go all day, but I don't think that amounts to game speed. Hopefully, I get a chance to play in preseason and get a chance to catch up with the speed of the game and live action.

"It's never easy to miss action. You always need that teaching. You can sit and watch film, come out and practice plays, but until you see it in real live action, that's when you get your work in."

Still, Maroney believes he could be at a top level if it goes in the other direction.

One line of thinking is that injuries can happen at any time -- as the Jets found out when starting running back Thomas Jones strained a calf in a blocking drill -- so holding a player out of preseason games could be viewed as overmanaging.

But Smith prefers to eliminate any chance of injury when possible, especially when it comes to a "mega-superstar" like Tomlinson.

"Our feeling is that you want to do what you have to do to get people ready, maybe a little action, but the preseason is mainly for the other players, to assess them," Smith said. "You want everybody healthy for the first game."

Smith cited an example from 1998, when Giants cornerback Jason Sehorn severely injured his knee in a preseason game on a kickoff return. And Patriots fans certainly remember 1989, when Andre Tippett, Ronnie Lippett, and Garin Veris were lost to season-ending injuries in the preseason finale.

Belichick said yesterday that getting players ready for the opener and a 16-game regular season -- and managing the contact they absorb -- is a balance that coaches must strike.

"You do it on an individual, case-by-case basis," he said.

In the case of Maroney, the question is whether some preseason snaps are worth it. He's prepared for either scenario.

"Every day I'm going to practice like I'm on call," Maroney said, "so when they put me in, I'm going to be ready."

Mike Reiss can be reached at mreiss@globe.com

© Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company

 
keep an eye out for Mike Reiss on Boston.com.

he's an excellent resource for all things Patriots.

Here's his latest on Maroney:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...h_is_hands_off/

The approach is hands-off

By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff | August 15, 2007

FOXBOROUGH -- In San Diego, running back LaDainian Tomlinson will not play a snap in the preseason, a decision designed to protect one of the Chargers' most valuable assets. Might the Patriots take the same approach with Laurence Maroney?

If they do, Maroney doesn't believe it will affect him come the regular season.

"I can definitely say I'd be ready to go if I didn't play in the preseason," he said.

The thought sheds light on one of the more important subplots through the first 21 practices of Patriots training camp: the management of Maroney's health.

After undergoing offseason shoulder surgery, Maroney has yet to pull on his regular No. 39 jersey, instead donning a red noncontact jersey. He did not play in the team's preseason opener last Friday night in Tampa and probably won't suit up this Friday against the Titans, the second of four preseason games.

Yesterday, when the Patriots were working on a physical inside running drill, Maroney did not participate. Yet in other drills, he is starting to do more.

How does he feel?

"The body is feeling good," he said. "I've been doing a bit more contact and it's just feeling real good. Hopefully -- you ask Bill [belichick] because I don't know when -- I'll be out of the red sometime soon."

Yet the Patriots might be wise to adopt the Chargers' approach, and keep Maroney in red.

San Diego general manager A.J. Smith said the Chargers kept Tomlinson out of preseason games last year, and after seeing how he performed in the regular season -- a career-high 1,815 rushing yards -- they felt it was the right thing to do again.

"I'd never force an opinion on another club, but our feeling is that if he's going to get hit, let it be in a real game, then adjust," Smith explained. "We stop him from the collisions, but his practices are high-intensity. Each play, he'll finish it, going 60 yards at a full clip.

"We give him a little thumping every now and then, but he won't get that first big hit until the first game. Once he gets that over with, it's like riding a bike."

While Tomlinson and Maroney are not in the same class as players, their value to their teams is more similar.

The Patriots are relying on Maroney to carry a heavier workload than the 175 attempts and 745 yards he totaled in 2006.

So as he works his way toward a full recovery, is it worth exposing him to injury in the preseason? If Maroney had his choice, he would like a few carries before the Sept. 9 opener against the Jets.

"Hopefully, I do play," he said. "I can come out here and practice against the defense full go all day, but I don't think that amounts to game speed. Hopefully, I get a chance to play in preseason and get a chance to catch up with the speed of the game and live action.

"It's never easy to miss action. You always need that teaching. You can sit and watch film, come out and practice plays, but until you see it in real live action, that's when you get your work in."

Still, Maroney believes he could be at a top level if it goes in the other direction.

One line of thinking is that injuries can happen at any time -- as the Jets found out when starting running back Thomas Jones strained a calf in a blocking drill -- so holding a player out of preseason games could be viewed as overmanaging.

But Smith prefers to eliminate any chance of injury when possible, especially when it comes to a "mega-superstar" like Tomlinson.

"Our feeling is that you want to do what you have to do to get people ready, maybe a little action, but the preseason is mainly for the other players, to assess them," Smith said. "You want everybody healthy for the first game."

Smith cited an example from 1998, when Giants cornerback Jason Sehorn severely injured his knee in a preseason game on a kickoff return. And Patriots fans certainly remember 1989, when Andre Tippett, Ronnie Lippett, and Garin Veris were lost to season-ending injuries in the preseason finale.

Belichick said yesterday that getting players ready for the opener and a 16-game regular season -- and managing the contact they absorb -- is a balance that coaches must strike.

"You do it on an individual, case-by-case basis," he said.

In the case of Maroney, the question is whether some preseason snaps are worth it. He's prepared for either scenario.

"Every day I'm going to practice like I'm on call," Maroney said, "so when they put me in, I'm going to be ready."

Mike Reiss can be reached at mreiss@globe.com

© Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company
Dude, great stuff here.Thanks. :goodposting:

 
I attended Pats training camp a week or so ago. After the formal practice was over, I was driving "the long way" out of the stadium and passed by the back end of the practice fields.

Maroney and one trainer were out there after hours all by themselves. Maroney was still wearing the red jersey, but he was HAMMERING the sled while the trainer stood on it.

He was clearly rehabbing/testing the shoulder and from what I saw, I can't imagine anyone can hit a sled any harder than what Maroney was doing.

Don't get me wrong here... I'm not lathering homer-optimism all over this situation... Maroney's health is a concern. I recall seeing him at TCamp in his rookie year (last year) and he looked "skinny"... even next to "small" guys like Troy Brown, Maroney looked really skinny. I had hoped to see a difference in him after a year in the NFL... but he didn't look much bigger this year. The guy has small, skinny calves/legs.

IMO, you've got to grab Sammy Morris as Maroney insurance. We hear about all these "handcuffs" for the elite RBs, but nobody mentions Sammy Morris.

Kevin Faulk isn't cut out to be an everydown back. He's a nice change of pace guy and makes a big play here and there.

Heath Evans is a short yardage guy who's signed for basically league minimum and is still wearing a Pats uniform because of his insane loyalty to the team, not because of his talent. Evans will go thru walls for the team; it's his approach and attitude that makes him valuable, not his "talent".

 
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i've been iffy on maroney all off-season...that article didn't help. he's probably the toughest call this year...a guy in a great situation (offense) and a crappy situation (shoulder) at the same time. i really hope i'm not faced with choosing him.

 
i've been iffy on maroney all off-season...that article didn't help. he's probably the toughest call this year...a guy in a great situation (offense) and a crappy situation (shoulder) at the same time. i really hope i'm not faced with choosing him.
I disagree. I think the article shows he is itching to get the red jersey off and start practicing for real. Plus, I like the part in the second post about him hitting the sled hard after practice. Thats a very good sign.I think the best thing the Pats can do is keep him out of games the entire pre-season, let him have some contact in practice and then cut him loose as healthy and rested as possible for the start of the season.
 
i've been iffy on maroney all off-season...that article didn't help. he's probably the toughest call this year...a guy in a great situation (offense) and a crappy situation (shoulder) at the same time. i really hope i'm not faced with choosing him.
I disagree. I think the article shows he is itching to get the red jersey off and start practicing for real. Plus, I like the part in the second post about him hitting the sled hard after practice. Thats a very good sign.I think the best thing the Pats can do is keep him out of games the entire pre-season, let him have some contact in practice and then cut him loose as healthy and rested as possible for the start of the season.
to each their own...but i just don't feel confident that this guy can last the season.
 
i've been iffy on maroney all off-season...that article didn't help. he's probably the toughest call this year...a guy in a great situation (offense) and a crappy situation (shoulder) at the same time. i really hope i'm not faced with choosing him.
I disagree. I think the article shows he is itching to get the red jersey off and start practicing for real. Plus, I like the part in the second post about him hitting the sled hard after practice. Thats a very good sign.I think the best thing the Pats can do is keep him out of games the entire pre-season, let him have some contact in practice and then cut him loose as healthy and rested as possible for the start of the season.
to each their own...but i just don't feel confident that this guy can last the season.
that's a different issue. you're entitled to that opinion...but stop pretending "that article didn't help". there was nothing new & negative in the article. if TD Ryan's post is accurate (not doubting it, just saying..) then this is terrific news about maroney. even if not accurate, we've learned nothing negative in the past few weeks.
 
i've been iffy on maroney all off-season...that article didn't help. he's probably the toughest call this year...a guy in a great situation (offense) and a crappy situation (shoulder) at the same time. i really hope i'm not faced with choosing him.
I disagree. I think the article shows he is itching to get the red jersey off and start practicing for real. Plus, I like the part in the second post about him hitting the sled hard after practice. Thats a very good sign.I think the best thing the Pats can do is keep him out of games the entire pre-season, let him have some contact in practice and then cut him loose as healthy and rested as possible for the start of the season.
to each their own...but i just don't feel confident that this guy can last the season.
that's a different issue. you're entitled to that opinion...but stop pretending "that article didn't help". there was nothing new & negative in the article. if TD Ryan's post is accurate (not doubting it, just saying..) then this is terrific news about maroney. even if not accurate, we've learned nothing negative in the past few weeks.
i suppose my take-away was the same as yours - nothing new. there was no comment from anyone other than a board member seeing him hit a sled that denoted any marked improvement. so i'm not "pretending" it didn't help me. it really didn't. i would have loved to see a comment from the writer, a trainer, a coordinator, a teammate, etc. stating that maroney's shoulder is 90%+. instead, i read an article that was 50% about tomlinson, and about a team that hasn't let him fully practice. perhaps bb is taking the same approach that the chargers take with tomlinson...then again, maybe he's still concerned about re-injury. tomato-tomotto, for sure...but still nothing new here to me.
 
Great, :goodposting: ! I am trying to figure out if I should trade him for Steve Smith or Ocho Cinco and this article tells me NOTHING, except a hurt football player wants to play.

 
Great, :X ! I am trying to figure out if I should trade him for Steve Smith or Ocho Cinco and this article tells me NOTHING, except a hurt football player wants to play.
I'm a Sammy Morris owner and the "hammering the sled" comment kind of bums me out.We have someone who first hand has seen LM giving a blocking sled his best hits. THAT is the kind of inside info I LOVE FBG for!I'm disappointed, but feel well informed. Thanks for the info we'll never get from Belichek.
 
Rotoworld:

Laurence Maroney shed his red, non-contact jersey at Patriots practice Monday.

Look for Maroney to make his preseason debut this week. It looks like the Patriots had set a cautious timetable for Maroney, and he hasn't had a setback. Assuming all goes well Friday, he'll be ready to carry the load in Week 1.

 
Rotoworld:Laurence Maroney shed his red, non-contact jersey at Patriots practice Monday.Look for Maroney to make his preseason debut this week. It looks like the Patriots had set a cautious timetable for Maroney, and he hasn't had a setback. Assuming all goes well Friday, he'll be ready to carry the load in Week 1.
Now this is encouraging...very interested in seeing him run a bit. Thx rascal.
 
Rotoworld:Laurence Maroney shed his red, non-contact jersey at Patriots practice Monday.Look for Maroney to make his preseason debut this week. It looks like the Patriots had set a cautious timetable for Maroney, and he hasn't had a setback. Assuming all goes well Friday, he'll be ready to carry the load in Week 1.
it just moved.
 
no new news, but a little more insight:

(KFFL) Robert Lee, of the Providence Journal, reports New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said he expects RB Laurence Maroney (shoulder) to play in the team's preseason game Friday, Aug. 24, against the Carolina Panthers. "He's made steady progress," Belichick said. Maroney, as reported, went through full workouts Monday, Aug. 20, after shedding his red, non-contact jersey. He has said all preseason long he has been ready and willing for full contact but the coaching staff held him back to prevent injury and to keep his legs fresh.
 

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