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Any treasue in the WR "trash heap"? (1 Viewer)

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I am trying to figure out if there is any talent that is available in numerous leagues around the country that are worth a roster spot as they could have significant value later in the season. Who are the guys that can help propel you into the upper echelon of your league? Please note this is not a "who-do-I-pick-up" thread. I am just trying to figure out what are some of the fringe WR's that people are looking at. In some leagues these guys may or may not be available. Several of these player’s may be available in your league; who is that one WR that you need to get, NOW:

Antwaan Randle El: On CBS he jumped from a 25% ownership to 62% ownership in the last week due to his monster game. I believe he and Santana will be inconsistent but Santana will still be the man. However, maybe this is ARE's year to finally step up.

Shaun McDonald: Jumped from 1% to 33% ownership in CBS leagues. Will the 4th WR in this Lions offense finish the year with enough stats to deserve a spot? I wouldn’t think a 4th WR from any team deserves a fantasy roster spot unless you are in a very deep league. Is he the 4th WR for this team or does he have upside?

Patrick Crayton: Moved from 38% to 52%. I like him. My gut tells me that T. Glenn is done for the year and although he didn't produce much last week, he could finish strong.

Derrick Mason: Only moved from 47% to 55%. He had twelve targets last week. Is that a fluke? Maybe no one told DM that he isn't supposed to be the number one WR option in Baltimore anymore.

Dennis Northcutt: Only moved from 5% to 8% ownership despite getting nine targets. Will he finish as the number one WR in a questionable QB situation? Will their offensive coordinator figure out that this is a running team and that his play calling cost them a home-victory last week? What are Reggie Williams’ or Matt Jones’ outlook as they are only owned by 10% and 50% of the leagues right now?

Dwayne Bowe: At a minimum he has the next few weeks in the starting lineup due to Kennison's injury. He had seven targets last week. Normally I don't like rookie WR's. Normally I don't like rookie WR's who got into camp late. Normally I don't like rookie WR's, who get into camp late and are on a crappy team offensively dominated by an LT2-wannabe, with a shaky QB situation, and an aging offensive line. However, he has the skills. Is he worth a roster spot now? What will his end of year stats look like? When Eddie K comes back will Dwayne Bowe have shown enough to supplant Samie Parker permanently in the starting lineup?

Brandon Jones: Dropped from 51% to 42% ownership this past week. He only had three targets last week. Is any Titans receiver worthy of a spot this year? Will their passing game come around? Doesn’t someone on the Titans have to catch the ball?

Amani Toomer: AT jumped from 30% ownership to 51% ownership on CBS. He got eleven targets last week. I have been shying away from Giants this year just because I think they are trying to get a top-five draft pick. What does the year hold for the Giants offense? How does Eli finish out? Will Plastico play 16 games this year?

DJ Hackett: That wooshing sound you hear is this year's trendy WR draft pick dropping from 76% ownership to 44% ownership. If you have a spot, is he worth it to pick up and hold on to for 4-6 weeks until he comes back. When he does come back, will he be worthy of his pre-season hype?

Arnaz Battle: Jumped from 13% ownership to 27% ownership. He got nine targets last week. Will this fifth year wideout finally be someone worth a shot? Could he finish as this year's number one SF receiving option over DJax, V.D., or Frankie G?

Minnesota WR's: Bobby Wade, Troy Williamson, and Sidney Rice got 4, 4, and 3 targets respectively. They are also owned by 9%, 44%, and 7% of the CBS leagues. Could any of these guys be treasure in the trash heap?

Drew Carter: Jumped from 4% ownership to 29% ownership. He converted 3 targets into 3 receptions and 2 touchdowns and a whopping 29 yards receiving. Who will finish up as the number two WR for Carolina this year?

As an example, last year Marques Colston started the season with 4 receptions and a touchdown on 8 targets. Who do you think may end up being this year’s treasure?

 
From your list, I personally like Crayton who will be an afterthought in defensive gameplanning with T.O., Witten, and the 2 RBs being the focus. Crayton seems to be a somewhat talented player in an excellent situation right now IMO.

I like Drew Carter right now as well. I know it is only 1 game and only 3 catches, but 2 TDs from a guy who has been considered a sleeper for 2 years now may be a sign of good things to come. I love his upside. Good size, good speed, good situation. I just cut Muhsin to pick him up. My feeling is that there are a lot of Muhsin-like WRs (decent WR4s that can be used for a spot-start) available on the wire, but Carter has significantly higher upside. He can serve as a WR5 for now, with the hopes that he can become more. You pretty much know what you've got with Muhsinesque WRs, but you are not sure what you might get from Carter.

I think Nate Burleson belongs on this list as well.

Not sold on Mason with the QB issues, or on Randle El. He had a nice game, but 55 of his yards came on a very flukeish Hail Mary pass deflection. Questionable QB play in Washington, as well as the fact that we have seen Randle El for several years now, and he has never been a viable fantasy option. I am not ready to say that this is the year he becomes one.

 
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From your list, I personally like Crayton who will be an afterthought in defensive gameplanning with T.O., Witten, and the 2 RBs being the focus. Crayton seems to be a somewhat talented player in an excellent situation right now IMO.I like Drew Carter right now as well. I know it is only 1 game and only 3 catches, but 2 TDs from a guy who has been considered a sleeper for 2 years now may be a sign of good things to come. I love his upside. Good size, good speed, good situation. I just cut Muhsin to pick him up. My feeling is that there are a lot of Muhsin-like WRs (decent WR4s that can be used for a spot-start) available on the wire, but Carter has significantly higher upside. He can serve as a WR5 for now, with the hopes that he can become more. You pretty much know what you've got with Muhsinesque WRs, but you are not sure what you might get from Carter.I think Nate Burleson belongs on this list as well.Not sold on Mason with the QB issues, or on Randle El. He had a nice game, but 55 of his yards came on a very flukeish Hail Mary pass deflection. Questionable QB play in Washington, as well as the fact that we have seen Randle El for several years now, and he has never been a viable fantasy option. I am not ready to say that this is the year he becomes one.
Crayton is the best from the ones you mentioned. Randle El is not a bad pick up, I'm not sure as to what QB issues you are refering to in Washington. Campbell is that start and can really get it down field when he needs to.
 
Do a search for the waiver wire WR thread from earlier this week...good discussion on these guys there...

For reference I dropped B.Jones for D.Northcutt, over Randle El...

 
From your list, I personally like Crayton who will be an afterthought in defensive gameplanning with T.O., Witten, and the 2 RBs being the focus. Crayton seems to be a somewhat talented player in an excellent situation right now IMO.I like Drew Carter right now as well. I know it is only 1 game and only 3 catches, but 2 TDs from a guy who has been considered a sleeper for 2 years now may be a sign of good things to come. I love his upside. Good size, good speed, good situation. I just cut Muhsin to pick him up. My feeling is that there are a lot of Muhsin-like WRs (decent WR4s that can be used for a spot-start) available on the wire, but Carter has significantly higher upside. He can serve as a WR5 for now, with the hopes that he can become more. You pretty much know what you've got with Muhsinesque WRs, but you are not sure what you might get from Carter.I think Nate Burleson belongs on this list as well.Not sold on Mason with the QB issues, or on Randle El. He had a nice game, but 55 of his yards came on a very flukeish Hail Mary pass deflection. Questionable QB play in Washington, as well as the fact that we have seen Randle El for several years now, and he has never been a viable fantasy option. I am not ready to say that this is the year he becomes one.
Crayton is the best from the ones you mentioned. Randle El is not a bad pick up, I'm not sure as to what QB issues you are refering to in Washington. Campbell is that start and can really get it down field when he needs to.
Jay Shroeder could really get it down the field when he needed to also.I live in DC and was at the game on Sunday. Campbell is clearly not yet out of the "questionable" category when discussing the Redskins QB situation. At least not in my opinion. 216 yards (55 on a fluke play), 0 TDs and 2 INT at home does not remove Campbell from being a questionable QB from my perspective.All of that said, I was playing up Drew Carter, and Jake Delhomme is not exactly Dan Fouts. I just think the SKins passing game is a question mark, and Randle El is a player that we have seen for long enough to understand his abilities and upside. He is certainly good for a few big plays and a few big games this year and is possibly a safer pick than Carter, but I personally like the potential upside of Carter better.
 
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A sleeper WR I hear nobody talking about is Marty Booker MIA. He lead the Dolphins in receiving last year and Green is an upgrade at QB. Last week it was all about Chambers, I look for Booker to have a good game against Dallas this week and could be a depth pickup for 12 team leagues.

 
From your list, I personally like Crayton who will be an afterthought in defensive gameplanning with T.O., Witten, and the 2 RBs being the focus. Crayton seems to be a somewhat talented player in an excellent situation right now IMO.I like Drew Carter right now as well. I know it is only 1 game and only 3 catches, but 2 TDs from a guy who has been considered a sleeper for 2 years now may be a sign of good things to come. I love his upside. Good size, good speed, good situation. I just cut Muhsin to pick him up. My feeling is that there are a lot of Muhsin-like WRs (decent WR4s that can be used for a spot-start) available on the wire, but Carter has significantly higher upside. He can serve as a WR5 for now, with the hopes that he can become more. You pretty much know what you've got with Muhsinesque WRs, but you are not sure what you might get from Carter.I think Nate Burleson belongs on this list as well.Not sold on Mason with the QB issues, or on Randle El. He had a nice game, but 55 of his yards came on a very flukeish Hail Mary pass deflection. Questionable QB play in Washington, as well as the fact that we have seen Randle El for several years now, and he has never been a viable fantasy option. I am not ready to say that this is the year he becomes one.
Crayton is the best from the ones you mentioned. Randle El is not a bad pick up, I'm not sure as to what QB issues you are refering to in Washington. Campbell is that start and can really get it down field when he needs to.
Jay Shroeder could really get it down the field when he needed to also.I live in DC and was at the game on Sunday. Campbell is clearly not yet out of the "questionable" category when discussing the Redskins QB situation. At least not in my opinion. 216 yards (55 on a fluke play), 0 TDs and 2 INT at home does not remove Campbell from being a questionable QB from my perspective.All of that said, I was playing up Drew Carter, and Jake Delhomme is not exactly Dan Fouts. I just think the SKins passing game is a question mark, and Randle El is a player that we have seen for long enough to understand his abilities and upside. He is certainly good for a few big plays and a few big games this year and is possibly a safer pick than Carter, but I personally like the potential upside of Carter better.
Campbell has been steadily improving. You may have questions about the passing game right now, but it is only going to get better as the year goes on. I'm not saying that Randle El is a great start by any means, but I think Campbell is just going to get better and better. And if you toss out 55 of his yards because of a fluke play, then you can toss out 1 of his INTs because it was a jump ball.
 
From your list, I personally like Crayton who will be an afterthought in defensive gameplanning with T.O., Witten, and the 2 RBs being the focus. Crayton seems to be a somewhat talented player in an excellent situation right now IMO.

I like Drew Carter right now as well. I know it is only 1 game and only 3 catches, but 2 TDs from a guy who has been considered a sleeper for 2 years now may be a sign of good things to come. I love his upside. Good size, good speed, good situation. I just cut Muhsin to pick him up. My feeling is that there are a lot of Muhsin-like WRs (decent WR4s that can be used for a spot-start) available on the wire, but Carter has significantly higher upside. He can serve as a WR5 for now, with the hopes that he can become more. You pretty much know what you've got with Muhsinesque WRs, but you are not sure what you might get from Carter.

I think Nate Burleson belongs on this list as well.

Not sold on Mason with the QB issues, or on Randle El. He had a nice game, but 55 of his yards came on a very flukeish Hail Mary pass deflection. Questionable QB play in Washington, as well as the fact that we have seen Randle El for several years now, and he has never been a viable fantasy option. I am not ready to say that this is the year he becomes one.
Crayton is the best from the ones you mentioned. Randle El is not a bad pick up, I'm not sure as to what QB issues you are refering to in Washington. Campbell is that start and can really get it down field when he needs to.
Jay Shroeder could really get it down the field when he needed to also.I live in DC and was at the game on Sunday. Campbell is clearly not yet out of the "questionable" category when discussing the Redskins QB situation. At least not in my opinion. 216 yards (55 on a fluke play), 0 TDs and 2 INT at home does not remove Campbell from being a questionable QB from my perspective.

All of that said, I was playing up Drew Carter, and Jake Delhomme is not exactly Dan Fouts. I just think the SKins passing game is a question mark, and Randle El is a player that we have seen for long enough to understand his abilities and upside. He is certainly good for a few big plays and a few big games this year and is possibly a safer pick than Carter, but I personally like the potential upside of Carter better.
Campbell has been steadily improving. You may have questions about the passing game right now, but it is only going to get better as the year goes on. I'm not saying that Randle El is a great start by any means, but I think Campbell is just going to get better and better. And if you toss out 55 of his yards because of a fluke play, then you can toss out 1 of his INTs because it was a jump ball.
He made it a jump ball with a poor pass. It wasnt a pass at the end of a half or the end of a game. It was just a horrendous pass that resulted in an easy pick. Not even comparable to a deflected Hail mary pass. He looked awful on Sunday.
 
Good analysis. I am in several high stakes leagues with 20 man rosters and I have been struggling with this all week.

Picked up Carter for Jurevicious in one.

Picked Randle El, Roddy White and Nate Burleson for Ginn, B Johnson and DJ Hackett.

Since league play is through first 11 or 13 weeks, I don't have time to be waiting on injuries and "potential" or injuries to a guy ahead of somebody.

I think guys like Toomer, Mason, Crayton are in the next tier above these guys.

Decent thread I started on this...

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...p;#entry7344454

 
From your list, I personally like Crayton who will be an afterthought in defensive gameplanning with T.O., Witten, and the 2 RBs being the focus. Crayton seems to be a somewhat talented player in an excellent situation right now IMO.

I like Drew Carter right now as well. I know it is only 1 game and only 3 catches, but 2 TDs from a guy who has been considered a sleeper for 2 years now may be a sign of good things to come. I love his upside. Good size, good speed, good situation. I just cut Muhsin to pick him up. My feeling is that there are a lot of Muhsin-like WRs (decent WR4s that can be used for a spot-start) available on the wire, but Carter has significantly higher upside. He can serve as a WR5 for now, with the hopes that he can become more. You pretty much know what you've got with Muhsinesque WRs, but you are not sure what you might get from Carter.

I think Nate Burleson belongs on this list as well.

Not sold on Mason with the QB issues, or on Randle El. He had a nice game, but 55 of his yards came on a very flukeish Hail Mary pass deflection. Questionable QB play in Washington, as well as the fact that we have seen Randle El for several years now, and he has never been a viable fantasy option. I am not ready to say that this is the year he becomes one.
Crayton is the best from the ones you mentioned. Randle El is not a bad pick up, I'm not sure as to what QB issues you are refering to in Washington. Campbell is that start and can really get it down field when he needs to.
Jay Shroeder could really get it down the field when he needed to also.I live in DC and was at the game on Sunday. Campbell is clearly not yet out of the "questionable" category when discussing the Redskins QB situation. At least not in my opinion. 216 yards (55 on a fluke play), 0 TDs and 2 INT at home does not remove Campbell from being a questionable QB from my perspective.

All of that said, I was playing up Drew Carter, and Jake Delhomme is not exactly Dan Fouts. I just think the SKins passing game is a question mark, and Randle El is a player that we have seen for long enough to understand his abilities and upside. He is certainly good for a few big plays and a few big games this year and is possibly a safer pick than Carter, but I personally like the potential upside of Carter better.
Campbell has been steadily improving. You may have questions about the passing game right now, but it is only going to get better as the year goes on. I'm not saying that Randle El is a great start by any means, but I think Campbell is just going to get better and better. And if you toss out 55 of his yards because of a fluke play, then you can toss out 1 of his INTs because it was a jump ball.
He made it a jump ball with a poor pass. It wasnt a pass at the end of a half or the end of a game. It was just a horrendous pass that resulted in an easy pick. Not even comparable to a deflected Hail mary pass. He looked awful on Sunday.
I don't know why you think he looked awful. Overall he played well, showed great pocket prescense and looks better than last year. He is showing steady improvement which is great. Even if you say his 2 INTs are completly his fault the great majority of his passes where only where his WR could have a chance for it.Anyway, we can agree to disagree. enough of hijacking

 
I agree with most of the sentiments here, BTW.

Crayton

Randle El

Toomer

Booker

Battle

The Rest

In that order. I have zero faith that Glenn will be back strong and I think Crayton can easily top 60/900/4 The advantage to Crayton is that you can predict which games will be games the Cowboys will be able to throw the ball - that balanced offense will get a lot of people off in games where the offense is able to exploit a questionable defense.

Randle-El is just as likely as Moss to have a big day. They are both serious playmakers and can do a lot of YAC and running - and Randle-El gives you the potential pass downfield.

Toomer and Eli - I think that old man still can put up numbers.

 
Maybe I'm :goodposting: but I took Jason Avant over Randle El

in my dynasty league on this weeks WW.
Not crazy.
Im an Eagles fan and trust me Avant isn't as good as he looked week 1 the reason he scored is because the Packers were putting LB's on him. If you line up a nickel back on him he doesn't have the speed to seperate.
I'm also an Eagles fan & I disagree. There is more to the game than just speed. Avant is physical, runs great routes, adjusts very well when the ball is in the air and has the best hands on the team. He is the perfect slot receiver and will prove effective against nickel corners, safeties and linebackers. Fantasy wise? I'd temper my expectations. There are too many mouths to feed in the passing game.
 
Im an Eagles fan and trust me Avant isn't as good as he looked week 1 the reason he scored is because the Packers were putting LB's on him. If you line up a nickel back on him he doesn't have the speed to seperate.

I'm also an Eagles fan & I disagree. There is more to the game than just speed. Avant is physical, runs great routes, adjusts very well when the ball is in the air and has the best hands on the team. He is the perfect slot receiver and will prove effective against nickel corners, safeties and linebackers. Fantasy wise? I'd temper my expectations. There are too many mouths to feed in the passing game.

Once LJ Smith gets right he'll suck up alot of those targets as well.

 
I'd add Laurent Robinson to the list. Yeah, he's on the Falcons, but here are the positives:

1. Is a rookie - so we don't know a ton about what he's capable of. We know what Jenkins/White is going to do, and we don't want that.

2. Got the start as a rookie in week 1.

3. Led all WR's in yards, although 3 for 32 isn't a big deal.

4. Has the skillset to break big plays - which given the sporadic nature of WR's hiting from out of nowhere is important.

I'm not saying he's at the top of the list, but someone needing examination.

If you're in a dynasty , though - he should be rostered.

 
I'd add Laurent Robinson to the list. Yeah, he's on the Falcons, but here are the positives:1. Is a rookie - so we don't know a ton about what he's capable of. We know what Jenkins/White is going to do, and we don't want that.2. Got the start as a rookie in week 1.3. Led all WR's in yards, although 3 for 32 isn't a big deal.4. Has the skillset to break big plays - which given the sporadic nature of WR's hiting from out of nowhere is important.I'm not saying he's at the top of the list, but someone needing examination.If you're in a dynasty , though - he should be rostered.
he's hurt this week thoughI can't recall what exactly but whatever was bugging him last week is worse(probable to Q)I have him and agree he's a good pickup.The start, BTW, was dopey as Roddy went in IIRC and he didn't do much(if not all) til the second half. I'm annoyed he got hurt because Roddy dropped some which is what Petrino has all but said annoys him most. Perfect time for the rook to steal his job and...grrr I guess it'll have to wait a week or two.
 

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