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Anybody buying on Demarco Murray? (2 Viewers)

I think Demarco scored right before the 2 minute warning but they ran the next play really quickly and didn't allow the replay booth to review it.

 
I don't understand the 100% shotgun. This is the first year Chip has gone to it. He ran under center some times in his first two years.

 
Something is being telegraphed to the defense. Looking at the film for both games, defenders are launching into the backfield on run plays like they know its coming. When it's a pass play, they don't go full in. It doesn't help that every run is a draw or stretch and the guards are awful but still

 
It's telling that I'm actually giving serious pause to taking this guy, a consensus PPR 1st rounder, in exchange for my D Lewis, a week 1 waiver grab. :unsure:

 
With all the talk of the Eagles being a high-powered offense that would be hard to stop, it made sense that Murray would be the ball-possession guy running out the clock with big leads. I really don't know what is wrong here, Bradford, Kelly, the O-Line, whatever. But there's no way I'm starting Murray against the Jets this week.

 
Well, I suppose what's wrong in that scenario is they aren't getting out to big leads. If you have some great options this week certainly seems like a time to put Murray on the bench, but I don't have those options. I plan to start him and hope for the best. If his PPR floor is 14.25/game (and he had the TD called back) with the most abysmal run blocking you could possibly imagine, Chip's substitution shenanigans and them not getting out to the leads for him to put away like you mentioned, that seems like a guy who still has a lot of potential this season to me.

 
Sabertooth said:
Faust said:
DeMarco Murray's death stare through Sam Bradford says it all
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Wow, that looked pretty intense. I can't see selling Demarco right now at low market. I'm benching him for Dion Lewis so I expect he'll bounce right back.
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I wouldn't trust Belichick enough to do that. One game he has a passing oriented game plan and leaves his receiving back in all game. The next game he wants to pound the ball to put away an easy opponent so he gives his big RB all the touches. It's happened before.

 
I'm torn on what to do with him if he's active. Everything points to a bad game plus a possible aggravation of injury shutting him down even if he starts. On the other hand, the team is desperate and in the illogical world of the nfl, he could break out?

 
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It's telling that I'm actually giving serious pause to taking this guy, a consensus PPR 1st rounder, in exchange for my D Lewis, a week 1 waiver grab. :unsure:
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whoever gets D lewis wins, unless D Murray gets traded.
 
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His value has just vanished. I don't think I recall a guy whose value declined so quickly at age 27 who didn't have off the field problems.

 
Somebody in my redraft league dropped him this week. We have short benches (6 spots) but that seems a little extreme only 4 weeks into the season. I've got waiver priority #3 and I'm hoping the two people ahead of me don't try to grab him. The Eagles have shown flashes of offense so I'm content to pick him up to see if they can figure it out.

 
Sabertooth said:
His value has just vanished. I don't think I recall a guy whose value declined so quickly at age 27 who didn't have off the field problems.
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His age is irrelevant. What's relevant is that he went from running behind a iron curtain to running behind tissue paper. He's getting hit within a second of getting the handoff. If he went back to the Cowboys, he'd be no different than last year. "Genius" Chip Kelly needs to figure out a way to get him the ball with a bit of space. He's actually been very good on swing passes.

 
JuniorNB said:
Sabertooth said:
His value has just vanished. I don't think I recall a guy whose value declined so quickly at age 27 who didn't have off the field problems.
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His age is irrelevant. What's relevant is that he went from running behind a iron curtain to running behind tissue paper. He's getting hit within a second of getting the handoff. If he went back to the Cowboys, he'd be no different than last year. "Genius" Chip Kelly needs to figure out a way to get him the ball with a bit of space. He's actually been very good on swing passes.
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Agree.

Best play he had all year was that TD vs. The falcons

 
Shutout said:
JuniorNB said:
Sabertooth said:
His value has just vanished. I don't think I recall a guy whose value declined so quickly at age 27 who didn't have off the field problems.
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His age is irrelevant. What's relevant is that he went from running behind a iron curtain to running behind tissue paper. He's getting hit within a second of getting the handoff. If he went back to the Cowboys, he'd be no different than last year. "Genius" Chip Kelly needs to figure out a way to get him the ball with a bit of space. He's actually been very good on swing passes.
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Agree.

Best play he had all year was that TD vs. The falcons
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That was nice. So was the screen against Dallas where he jumped the defender.

 
I grabbed him in multiple leagues and thought he was a steal in the second round. I've lost a few close games now by rolling him and benching people of the likes of Doug Baldwin...Doug Baldwin people.

This week I don't know wether to put Baldwin in over him in one league and Chris Thompson in two others (ppr).

Crazy...

 
JuniorNB said:
Sabertooth said:
His value has just vanished. I don't think I recall a guy whose value declined so quickly at age 27 who didn't have off the field problems.
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His age is irrelevant. What's relevant is that he went from running behind a iron curtain to running behind tissue paper. He's getting hit within a second of getting the handoff. If he went back to the Cowboys, he'd be no different than last year. "Genius" Chip Kelly needs to figure out a way to get him the ball with a bit of space. He's actually been very good on swing passes.
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Sure he would, because the Cowboys' line isn't playing anywhere near as well as they were last year.

 
JuniorNB said:
Sabertooth said:
His value has just vanished. I don't think I recall a guy whose value declined so quickly at age 27 who didn't have off the field problems.
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His age is irrelevant. What's relevant is that he went from running behind a iron curtain to running behind tissue paper. He's getting hit within a second of getting the handoff. If he went back to the Cowboys, he'd be no different than last year. "Genius" Chip Kelly needs to figure out a way to get him the ball with a bit of space. He's actually been very good on swing passes.
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I'm quite aware of the reasons his value has plummetted. I'm just saying his dynasty owners from last season saw his value tank unexpectedly. Regardless of the reason, I can't really recall a guy nosediving quite so quickly.

 
urbanhack said:
i'm still interested in buying low. One good game can change everything.
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As an owner, I'm not thinking of selling him at a discount for the very reason you mention. He goes off for 20+ fantasy points and his value bounces back nearly as quickly as it dropped. I'm also not starting him nor buying on him.

 
This is the week. Chip's getting heat. Murray openly griping about carries. Saints defense is atrocious. If he can't do it this week, then full on panic mode.

 
Yea he sits, it's going to suck to have him on my bench blowing up but he has cost me when I played him in two excruciatingly close losses. I am selling if he blows up against the Saints.

 
Sabertooth said:
urbanhack said:
i'm still interested in buying low. One good game can change everything.
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As an owner, I'm not thinking of selling him at a discount for the very reason you mention. He goes off for 20+ fantasy points and his value bounces back nearly as quickly as it dropped. I'm also not starting him nor buying on him.
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I'm not sure about this. PHI offense has been all over the map and I don't see a lot of savvy owners trading for him like he's a workhorse again regardless of his output. If he does it back to back, then I think we'll see his value rise, but one game after the dreadful start without any reason to suspect it will continue? No thanks. I just don't trust Kelly enough.

 
the Curse of 370 claims another victim...

EDIT: to add something a bit more substantial, i never felt like murray was a pro bowl talent to begin with. i think of him as this generation's shaun alexander, i.e. a product of a studly o-line. so you take the change in situation and that would be why you see such a dropoff for a relatively young guy with no issues.

 
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