Anybody else love Mike Sims-Walker in the 5th-6th? (1 Viewer)

[Rick James]

He is always there when I need to pick up another WR in the 5th-6th. I think I've picked him in every mock draft I've done so far.

Third year in the league, 2nd with Garrard throwing him the ball, really good production last year for a 2nd year player. All of this points to a better year, IMO, than the 900/7 he put up last year.

I can definitely see MSW posting a year somewhere in the neighborhood of 1100/9

What are your projections for him?

 

[Jayrod]

He is always there when I need to pick up another WR in the 5th-6th. I think I've picked him in every mock draft I've done so far.Third year in the league, 2nd with Garrard throwing him the ball, really good production last year for a 2nd year player. All of this points to a better year, IMO, than the 900/7 he put up last year.I can definitely see MSW posting a year somewhere in the neighborhood of 1100/9What are your projections for him?

Not to give away subscriber content, but not one staff member has his projections above last year's numbers.I find that odd, but I think it is more of an indicment of Garrard and the Jags as a team than of MSW (although injury issues are likely playing into it).

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

It's his 4th year in the league. It's easy to forget that because of all the time he's missed with injury. This year he already has a shoulder injury that is causing him to miss time.

The reason he falls so late in drafts, other than injury concerns, is that he pretty much disappeared down the stretch last year and folks don't feel like they can trust him or Garrard.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Here is the spotlight thread on him in case you missed it.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=534229

 

[netnalp]

Rotoworld

Mike Sims-Walker (shoulder) returned to practice Monday evening.

Sims-Walker sat out the morning practice after sustaining a minor shoulder injury in Thursday's preseason opener. He may be limited to one practice a day as a precaution, but he's fine to draft as a WR2.

Source: Florida Times Union

 

[Rick James]

Here is the spotlight thread on him in case you missed it.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=534229

I did miss that thread, thanks for posting it. Seems like most people agree that he will at least match last year's numbers if not surpass them. As far as I'm concerned if you can get him as your WR3 in the 6th, you're ahead of most of the league.

 

[Warrior]

He was a fluke last season and is on my do-not-draft list. In weeks 13-17 (5 games) he averaged just over 2 catches per game for around 25 yards and .2 TDs.

I just don't get the love for him...I'd much rather have Nate Burleson or Jabar Gaffney about 10+ rounds later.

 

[Jayrod]

He was a fluke last season and is on my do-not-draft list. In weeks 13-17 (5 games) he averaged just over 2 catches per game for around 25 yards and .2 TDs.I just don't get the love for him...I'd much rather have Nate Burleson or Jabar Gaffney about 10+ rounds later.

And for weeks 2-12, he averaged 5.7 rec 82.2 yds & 1.2 TD's per game.Even in the middle of the down streak you highlighted, he had a very good game in week 15 (6 rec, 64 yds & 1 TD).He was streaky and faded down the stretch in his first full season.And as far as Nate Burleson and Jabar Gaffney....they've played 15 combined seasons and only one of those seasons was comparable to MSW's season last year (Burleson in 2004). We know what they can do and 2004 was six years ago.

 

[abe froman]

He was a fluke last season and is on my do-not-draft list. In weeks 13-17 (5 games) he averaged just over 2 catches per game for around 25 yards and .2 TDs.I just don't get the love for him...I'd much rather have Nate Burleson or Jabar Gaffney about 10+ rounds later.

 

[Rick James]

He was a fluke last season and is on my do-not-draft list. In weeks 13-17 (5 games) he averaged just over 2 catches per game for around 25 yards and .2 TDs.I just don't get the love for him...I'd much rather have Nate Burleson or Jabar Gaffney about 10+ rounds later.

So to you, 13 games of solid WR1-WR2 production is a fluke, and 5 games worth of underwhelming play is the norm....that just doesn't make sense

 

[Warpig]

I'm a Jags fan and I'm not high on him at all.

1) Inconsistent QB play

2) No WR help to take attention from him

3) Injury prone

But yeah, if you can get him as a WR3 late...then he is value.

 

[Warrior]

He was a fluke last season and is on my do-not-draft list. In weeks 13-17 (5 games) he averaged just over 2 catches per game for around 25 yards and .2 TDs.I just don't get the love for him...I'd much rather have Nate Burleson or Jabar Gaffney about 10+ rounds later.

So to you, 13 games of solid WR1-WR2 production is a fluke, and 5 games worth of underwhelming play is the norm....that just doesn't make sense

Now you're just making things up...first, 13 + 5 would = 18 games in a season..are we counting two pre-season games now? Second, he only had 6 solid games last season before crapping the bed down the stretch and knocking many of his owners out of the playoffs (less than half as many as you claim). I won't even mention the 2 catches for 9 yards and 0 TDs week 9 that you apparently consider "solid WR1-WR2 production".

 

[Creed Bratton]

He was a fluke last season and is on my do-not-draft list. In weeks 13-17 (5 games) he averaged just over 2 catches per game for around 25 yards and .2 TDs.I just don't get the love for him...I'd much rather have Nate Burleson or Jabar Gaffney about 10+ rounds later.

So to you, 13 games of solid WR1-WR2 production is a fluke, and 5 games worth of underwhelming play is the norm....that just doesn't make sense

Now you're just making things up...first, 13 + 5 would = 18 games in a season..are we counting two pre-season games now? Second, he only had 6 solid games last season before crapping the bed down the stretch and knocking many of his owners out of the playoffs (less than half as many as you claim). I won't even mention the 2 catches for 9 yards and 0 TDs week 9 that you apparently consider "solid WR1-WR2 production".

It doesn't really matter what happened in the playoffs last year. Unless you think it's somehow a good idea to rank players based on how they did in the month of december of the previous season.

 

[Novice2]

I liked him.

Untill he caught a ball fell to the ground and had his arm in a sling a couple days.

Crap

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

He is always there when I need to pick up another WR in the 5th-6th. I think I've picked him in every mock draft I've done so far.Third year in the league, 2nd with Garrard throwing him the ball, really good production last year for a 2nd year player. All of this points to a better year, IMO, than the 900/7 he put up last year.I can definitely see MSW posting a year somewhere in the neighborhood of 1100/9What are your projections for him?

Not to give away subscriber content, but not one staff member has his projections above last year's numbers.I find that odd, but I think it is more of an indicment of Garrard and the Jags as a team than of MSW (although injury issues are likely playing into it).

Mike Sims Walker can be a frustrating player to own, as he posts Wr1 and solid WR2 numbers and then he an go a couple weeks with jut about nothing, 1 catch for 18 yards. What do you do the next week after 1 catch for 18 yards....you start him and you get 2 for 23. Then you think he's done and he goes 125 and 1. I think your projections of 1100 and 9 are slightly high in both departments but in the 5th or 6th round, it's a good gamble IMO. I think of Mike Sims walker as a decent WR2 but I don't want to wait too long to pull the trigger on a decent WR3 because more than likely Walker will pull a disappearing act at some point during the season.

 

[Mr.Underhill]

He was a fluke last season and is on my do-not-draft list. In weeks 13-17 (5 games) he averaged just over 2 catches per game for around 25 yards and .2 TDs.I just don't get the love for him...I'd much rather have Nate Burleson or Jabar Gaffney about 10+ rounds later.

And for weeks 2-12, he averaged 5.7 rec 82.2 yds & 1.2 TD's per game.Even in the middle of the down streak you highlighted, he had a very good game in week 15 (6 rec, 64 yds & 1 TD).He was streaky and faded down the stretch in his first full season.And as far as Nate Burleson and Jabar Gaffney....they've played 15 combined seasons and only one of those seasons was comparable to MSW's season last year (Burleson in 2004). We know what they can do and 2004 was six years ago.

Good posting.Burleson, Gaffney and Sims-Walker. Which one of these guys probably knows more now compared to what he knew last year about the craft of being an NFL receiver?

 

[The Jerk]

First off, my stats show MSW had six TDs in an eight-game stretch from weeks 2-10, not counting his suspended game of course. 0.75 TDs per game, not 1.2 -- still, something I was happy to have as I owned him in two leagues last year.

I'm not as high on MSW however after the finish to last season. While it's eminently possible that he was just tiring from playing his first complete long NFL season, it's also possible that defenses adjusted after his breakout month and learned how to take him away to an extent.

After the fast start, MSW averaged 3.5 rec, 47.7 ypg, 0.4 TDpg for his final ten games. Not awful, but barely starter numbers. And let's face it, the final five games were downright brutal, at 2.4 rec, 25.8 ypg, 0.2 TDpg.

Simply put, these aren't the trends you like to see when a player breaks out. I'm worried that his early 2009 flurry could be the best stretch of his career.

Even so, I'm not going to avoid him at all costs, but it has to be at the right price for me. I'll likely draft him only as a WR3 or WR4 on my teams.

 

[bweiser]

Mike Sims-Walker probably enters the year as my No. 2 WR in my keeper league. This, thanks to suspensions to VJ and Santonio Holmes plus VJ's holdout gives me Anquan Boldin, MSW and nothing else. Frankly, I don't even think I can protect Holmes since i probably have to protect Jackson because of what I paid to get him last year.

I'm a little frustrated that I traded Colston for James Stewart in February. But just a little.

 

[JaxBill]

It's his 4th year in the league. It's easy to forget that because of all the time he's missed with injury. This year he already has a shoulder injury that is causing him to miss time. The reason he falls so late in drafts, other than injury concerns, is that he pretty much disappeared down the stretch last year and folks don't feel like they can trust him or Garrard.

The other concern to me at least is that this year might be the coming out party for Mike Thomas with teams zeroing in on MSW defensively.

 

[xenith]

I'm leery of his injuries, but in the tail end of 9th round as WR5, I bought in.

 

[netnalp]

Mike Sims-Walker led the Jaguars with three catches for 64 yards against the Dolphins in Saturday's preseason game.

Sims-Walker reeled in passes of 35, 22, and 7 yards from David Garrard in the first quarter alone. Last week's shoulder injury appears to be behind him.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL

 

[Glaven]

I like MSW's game quite a bit. Excellent hands, catches the ball in traffic, good speed, good size, good red zone target, little WR competition. Barring injury, I find it very likely that MSW gets at least 1000 yards receiving. I think he's excellent value as a WR2.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

He was a fluke last season and is on my do-not-draft list. In weeks 13-17 (5 games) he averaged just over 2 catches per game for around 25 yards and .2 TDs.I just don't get the love for him...I'd much rather have Nate Burleson or Jabar Gaffney about 10+ rounds later.

And for weeks 2-12, he averaged 5.7 rec 82.2 yds & 1.2 TD's per game.Even in the middle of the down streak you highlighted, he had a very good game in week 15 (6 rec, 64 yds & 1 TD).He was streaky and faded down the stretch in his first full season.And as far as Nate Burleson and Jabar Gaffney....they've played 15 combined seasons and only one of those seasons was comparable to MSW's season last year (Burleson in 2004). We know what they can do and 2004 was six years ago.

tend to think this had a lot to do with the dearth of talent, 2-dimensional offense (MSW/MJD). I see big things for MSW this year with Williamson/Thomas and thomas/marcedes to take some of the heat off.then again I own his rights so I may be biased.This guy was no 'fluke' This was a diamond in the rough (see last years possible TOY re MSW bandwagon) who is a 'lunchpail' guy. I see no reason he digresses, but I am glad others dont believe for my redrafts.