cantstop1999
Footballguy
Could be great later in the season, Miller blows. He’s possibly back week 7, coming off the pup.
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Anyone Considering D. Foreman yet ? (1 Viewer)
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rockaction
Footballguy
Heck yes. He's drafted in rostered in my leegs and I was considering trading for him. I wonder, though, if he's not back yet, how long it takes for him to be effective. What's his asking price or ROI?
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
he is worse prospect than Blue.
rockaction
Footballguy
So the Texans need a back? Because Miller is awful so far, and I don't usually speak in superlatives. He's just not good other than volume.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
per PubMed study...
RESULTS:
Of 86 athletes screened, 62 met inclusion criteria including 25 NBA, 32 NFL, and 5 MLB players. Nineteen (30.6%) professional athletes with an isolated Achilles tendon rupture treated surgically were unable to return to play. Among athletes who successfully returned to play, game participation averaged 75.4% ( P < .001) and 81.9% ( P = .002) of the total games played the season before injury at 1 and 2 years postoperatively, respectively. Play time was significantly decreased and athletes performed significantly worse compared with preoperative levels at 1 and 2 years after injury ( P < .001). When players were compared with matched controls, an Achilles tendon rupture resulted in fewer games played ( P < .001), decreased play time ( P = .025), and worse performance statistics ( P < .001) at 1 year but not 2 years postoperatively ( P > .05). When individual sports were compared, NBA players were most significantly affected, experiencing significant decreases in games played, play time, and performance.
CONCLUSION:
An Achilles tendon rupture is a devastating injury that prevents RTP for 30.6% of professional players. Athletes who do return play in fewer games, have less play time, and perform at a lower level than their preinjury status. However, these functional deficits are seen only at 1 year after surgery compared with matched controls, such that players who return to play can expect to perform at a level commensurate with uninjured controls 2 years postoperatively.
... so not even next year. But the year after that.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, as a casual observation, and casual at best, it seems like a lost year for them to begin with. Nobody wants to give up at a mere 1-3, but losing to the Giants is tough, it seems. And they didn't look good doing it.
rockaction
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Rostered in both my leagues. :(
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
They can easily be in the Le'Veon Bell market. They are top 4 in cap space and have Watson under the rookie contract for 3 years after this one. He would make a dramatic change. And they could continue to address the O-Line next year.
* this is true for the Colts as well. But they have less value for Bell this season.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Cool. I didn't know about cap space. That's really astute. Bell in Houston with Watson could actually make a huge difference, unlike Bell with the Jets, which was the rumor put out by the NY beat writers.
Houston certainly isn't averse to good backs. I have pleasant memories of Arian Foster dominating games. (I always loved Foster, for a bunch of reasons. One of the more interesting pro athletes in my lifetime.)
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Foster was maybe the "smoothest" RB I have ever seen. A pleasure to watch. Certainly Dickerson was smooth but when he got to top speed he was pure velocity. Foster stayed smooth all the time. And enter Bell who is the most patient back ever. And he goes from patient to sudden so damn well for a 225+ guy. His blocking and catching would be a huge boon.rockaction said:
Interseptopus
Footballguy
this guy is done. been saying it since his injury.
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while I had nobody injured I had him stashed on my injured reserve spot. Unfortunately OJ Howard got hurt and is occupying that spot now and I have dropped Foreman. If and when he returns to the lineup I will try to make some kind of pick up And re stash him but my expectations are quite low
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BigSteelThrill said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Welp, that settles it.
Someone should notify Bill O’Brien.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Really good info, though would be interesting to see how the medical stats look when focusing specifically for NFL and RBs (given that the study cites the biggest impact to NBA players).
In an RB-hungry 14-team league, opportunities for any glimmer of a contributor, let alone someone who could receive some ongoing meaningful share of carries is super rare, and that's what Foreman represents -- the "adds" on Yahoo in terms of transaction trends are spiking massively for this guy.
It's tempting, but given this, Blue might be as good of a play if indeed Miller can't turn it around.
Were Tyler Ervin and Gregory Howell anything to look at in preseason/elsewhere?
In an RB-hungry 14-team league, opportunities for any glimmer of a contributor, let alone someone who could receive some ongoing meaningful share of carries is super rare, and that's what Foreman represents -- the "adds" on Yahoo in terms of transaction trends are spiking massively for this guy.
It's tempting, but given this, Blue might be as good of a play if indeed Miller can't turn it around.
Were Tyler Ervin and Gregory Howell anything to look at in preseason/elsewhere?
Zyphros
Footballguy
Absolutely loved the talent coming into the NFL, loved the situation he entered, and honestly thought he could end up being the best RB from that entire draft class at one point. Problem is his injury. Blue is nothing special, Miller is the epitome of a backup caliber RB and there's nobody else of note on that roster.
I've been carefully paying attention to any blurb about him anywhere and there is hardly a peep. Take that how you want, but I view it as nobody is asking, and nobody is bothering to update us because of those lack of questions. The only thing we know is that there's opportunity, and IF he comes back to being healthy, there's a more than decent chance that he at least has half that workload I'd imagine.
I own him in 1 league because I was really high on him coming out, and because I'm high on him, I'd buy for an early 3rd or deep bench guy. I'd guess most people wouldn't even buy him because of his injury but I loved the talent so I'll invest a little something if those chances come.
I've been carefully paying attention to any blurb about him anywhere and there is hardly a peep. Take that how you want, but I view it as nobody is asking, and nobody is bothering to update us because of those lack of questions. The only thing we know is that there's opportunity, and IF he comes back to being healthy, there's a more than decent chance that he at least has half that workload I'd imagine.
I own him in 1 league because I was really high on him coming out, and because I'm high on him, I'd buy for an early 3rd or deep bench guy. I'd guess most people wouldn't even buy him because of his injury but I loved the talent so I'll invest a little something if those chances come.
rockaction
Footballguy
They just had a blurb in Roto today, if you're interested.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/12282/donta-foreman/1
Football Jones
Footballguy
I'm thinking I wouldn't automatically dismiss Foreman because of a torn achilles.
Demaryius Thomas made a full recovery. Different position, but WRs take an enormous pounding in that area sticking their foot in the ground to make cuts. Also, after the catch, their actions are similar to RBs only in less traffic. The positional comparison for this injury doesn't do much for me. It's mostly individualistic in nature. Lots of factors will determine if a player can come back from this injury.
If Foreman is free on the wire, I'd definitely stash him if I had room. Obviously, you dont want to be aggressive with an offer until more is known, but putting Foreman 6 feet under right now is foolish, IMO.
He may not make it back, but we don't know that yet.
Demaryius Thomas made a full recovery. Different position, but WRs take an enormous pounding in that area sticking their foot in the ground to make cuts. Also, after the catch, their actions are similar to RBs only in less traffic. The positional comparison for this injury doesn't do much for me. It's mostly individualistic in nature. Lots of factors will determine if a player can come back from this injury.
If Foreman is free on the wire, I'd definitely stash him if I had room. Obviously, you dont want to be aggressive with an offer until more is known, but putting Foreman 6 feet under right now is foolish, IMO.
He may not make it back, but we don't know that yet.
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cantstop1999
Footballguy
Coach says he’s almost ready, could be ready for week 7, doesn’t sound like he’s done.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I'm sure he will play someday, but I would be shocked if he was even a shell of his former self
cantstop1999
Footballguy
It’s obviously a gamble / Lottery ticket
Interseptopus
Footballguy
An Achilles rupture always was and always will be a devastating injury.One said:
If you're talking about steroids and the such, sure, you're absolutely right.
cantstop1999
Footballguy
So your smarter than the coaching staff and trainers ? There saying he almost ready to return, so we should believe you, I’m pretty sure they know more than what you’ve already stated. Grab and stash guys , never know.
simey
Footballguy
Chris Conley ruptured his achilles last October, and he has been playing fine this season. He caught a TD a couple weeks ago. I remember when he ruptured his, and they played it in slow motion on the replay, and you could see it pop up the back of his leg. :XFootball Jones said:
cantstop1999
Footballguy
Football Jones
Footballguy
I forgot about Conley.
It's just too soon to bury Foreman. NFL players have fully recovered from this injury not to mention ongoing medical advancements. It was once thought an ACL tear was the kiss of death.
