Anyone else disappointed w/ Carson Palmer this year? (1 Viewer)

[Letum]

Consensus was Peyton #1 and Carson #2 this year. Carson had six TDs in one game early this year and three last week but only two or less (including ZERO this week) each week for the rest of the season. Obviously Brady and Manning, but also Favre, Romo, Anderson, Roethlisberger, and Hass have now outscored him YTD. Did CP kill anyone else's season?

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

He didn't kill my season, but he's certainly been below expectations besides those two weeks.

However, for those who were able to stay alive despite his performance, you have to at least be a little optimistic about the next 3 matchups:

STL, SF, CLE

That's a great schedule - I just hope the Bengals don't play the rest of their season like they have nothing to play for (which they dont).

 

[Jayrod]

Consensus was Peyton #1 and Carson #2 this year. Carson had six TDs in one game early this year and three last week but only two or less (including ZERO this week) each week for the rest of the season. Obviously Brady and Manning, but also Favre, Romo, Anderson, Roethlisberger, and Hass have now outscored him YTD. Did CP kill anyone else's season?

Kill? No.Make it worse than I thought it would be? Yes.If he had performed to about 85% of my pre-season expectations I would probably have the best record in my league this year. As is I'm in 3rd right now and may still finish the regular season in 2nd depending on Monday night's games.But at any rate, he has been disappointing this year and the Palmer to Chad Johnson combo hasn't been nearly as lethal as I'd hoped.

 

[JoeSteeler]

He didn't kill my season, but he's certainly been below expectations besides those two weeks.However, for those who were able to stay alive despite his performance, you have to at least be a little optimistic about the next 3 matchups:STL, SF, CLEThat's a great schedule - I just hope the Bengals don't play the rest of their season like they have nothing to play for (which they dont).

I am 12-1 in my 16 team dynasty with Palmer starting every week.

 

[Judge Smails]

tonight was the epitome of the Bengals season. Missed opportunities, and the offense just doesn't seem to stay on the field long enough. Muffed punts, penalties on 4th down to give the other team first downs at the most inopportune times, etc. I also think that people have been bashing CJ all year, but Carson has had many a horrendous pick and gets off scott free. He's far underperformed this year.

 

[mcnabbmcnow]

I benched him for Kurt Warner today. He hasn't killed my season, but it used to be I just automatically plugged him in there. Now I have to look for options on certain weeks.

 

[Jon_Moore]

In my point per completion dynasty league, top qbs get 35 a week easily. Palmer didn't even get me 20 this week. With my opponent down 44 and Mcgahee/Welker/New England to go, Palmer's lame game may give me my 1st loss.

I'm not exactly what you'd call thrilled with him.

The backups are doing just dandy too

Phillip Rivers

Kellen Clemens

 

[Warhound]

He didn't kill my season either as i'm in second place in my division heading to the playoffs but he has totally underperformed. My previous seasons have been derailed because of poor QB play in the playoffs or injury to my main QB so this year I decided to shoot early and pick up a no brainer. Man he's been really bad and all my losses this year have been close. If Palmer had played the way I expected him too all those losses could have easily been W's but he's hurting my team and I hope he gets his #### together or else I'm looking at an early exit from the playoffs.

 

[Bri]

He's played like a QB with a highly questionable D and a questionable running game. Not having steady reliable Rudi to take the focus off him is somewhat new to him. When Watson's done well so has he.

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

Consensus was Peyton #1 and Carson #2 this year. Carson had six TDs in one game early this year and three last week but only two or less (including ZERO this week) each week for the rest of the season. Obviously Brady and Manning, but also Favre, Romo, Anderson, Roethlisberger, and Hass have now outscored him YTD. Did CP kill anyone else's season?

Not sure he killed my season, he certainly didn't help much so far. My team:QB PalmerWR Ward, Welker, Walker, Curry, Rice, PattenRB Portis, Graham, Jordan, Betts, WardTE GonzalezK GouldDEF Green Bay, DenverI actually started with 5 straight wins, lost 1, drew 1 and then lost 6. I'm not 6-6-1 since I already sealed the deal for this week. I was very high on him going into the season and was set on drafting him in the late 2nd round. I he had performed like last year I almost certainly would've won a couple games during my 6 game losing streak. A lot of them were close games.I'm pretty much eliminated from the playoffs, but am still in the running for the consolation bracket.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Palmer was once spot ahead of Brady in my draft board this year. Guess who I picked?

 

[zamboni]

He's played like a QB with a highly questionable D and a questionable running game. Not having steady reliable Rudi to take the focus off him is somewhat new to him. When Watson's done well so has he.

I was thinking the same thing. The decline of the running game certainly seems to have hurt the offense overall, putting a lot more pressure on Palmer.It will be interesting to see what they do with the running game next year...

 

[fsufan]

He didn't kill my season, but he's certainly been below expectations besides those two weeks.However, for those who were able to stay alive despite his performance, you have to at least be a little optimistic about the next 3 matchups:STL, SF, CLEThat's a great schedule - I just hope the Bengals don't play the rest of their season like they have nothing to play for (which they dont).

those 3 teams give up a lot of passing TDsSTL- 10th in NFL, given up 17 TDsSF- 6th in the NFL, given up 19 TDsCLE, 1st in the NFL, given up 27 TDs

 

[Bri]

He's played like a QB with a highly questionable D and a questionable running game. Not having steady reliable Rudi to take the focus off him is somewhat new to him. When Watson's done well so has he.

I was thinking the same thing. The decline of the running game certainly seems to have hurt the offense overall, putting a lot more pressure on Palmer.It will be interesting to see what they do with the running game next year...

Is Rudi or Kenny a FA?

 

[DarkManX]

He hasnt really met my expectations this season however I havent really been all that dissapointed with him. Sure he has thrown an int in nearly every game this season but with the finish home, if you're in the playoffs you have to be happy with what you see. I have started him every game this yr and am 9-3 and have won this week so now 10-3 and not too dissapointed.

 

[footballnerd]

I traded for him mid season strictly for the playoffs. Palmers going to bring it home for my squad. Tom who??

 

[Jayrod]

Palmer was once spot ahead of Brady in my draft board this year. Guess who I picked?

Same here.But I will say that a big part of my decision was these next three weeks. Don't be surprised if Palmer pans out and is a key to a lot of league champs.

 

[Jon_Moore]

I've lost all 3 years in the playoffs in my main dynasty because of him...

2004--week 14--1st round--leaves in the 3rd with knee injury

2005--week 14--1st round--13/27 for 93 yards, 1 td, 1 int--point per completion league--a good qb gets 35ish--that got 18

2006--week 15--2nd round--14/28 for 176 and no tds---17 points...just no.

2004 and 2006--I was 1st place in regular season, I was 1st in points all 3 years--2005 managed to fall to 5th despite scoring the most points.

Point blank, 3 very good teams should have won if Palmer had given what he should have.

This year--1st place--most points...honest to god If I had a Kurt Warner or Derek Anderson...I wouldn't think twice. Which is just the frustration talking, and Palmer has a nice schedule.

Since I don't have them, hopefully he'll pay off.

 

[carlos1984]

i'm one of the victims of palmer

specially this week

 

[Jayrod]

I've lost all 3 years in the playoffs in my main dynasty because of him...2004--week 14--1st round--leaves in the 3rd with knee injury2005--week 14--1st round--13/27 for 93 yards, 1 td, 1 int--point per completion league--a good qb gets 35ish--that got 182006--week 15--2nd round--14/28 for 176 and no tds---17 points...just no.2004 and 2006--I was 1st place in regular season, I was 1st in points all 3 years--2005 managed to fall to 5th despite scoring the most points.Point blank, 3 very good teams should have won if Palmer had given what he should have.This year--1st place--most points...honest to god If I had a Kurt Warner or Derek Anderson...I wouldn't think twice. Which is just the frustration talking, and Palmer has a nice schedule.Since I don't have them, hopefully he'll pay off.

Would you sit/start anyone else based on three random weeks out of the last three seasons?Last year and especially three years ago means nothing for these next three weeks.Now his crappy season right now, ............. that IS relevent ...

 

[Jon_Moore]

I've lost all 3 years in the playoffs in my main dynasty because of him...2004--week 14--1st round--leaves in the 3rd with knee injury2005--week 14--1st round--13/27 for 93 yards, 1 td, 1 int--point per completion league--a good qb gets 35ish--that got 182006--week 15--2nd round--14/28 for 176 and no tds---17 points...just no.2004 and 2006--I was 1st place in regular season, I was 1st in points all 3 years--2005 managed to fall to 5th despite scoring the most points.Point blank, 3 very good teams should have won if Palmer had given what he should have.This year--1st place--most points...honest to god If I had a Kurt Warner or Derek Anderson...I wouldn't think twice. Which is just the frustration talking, and Palmer has a nice schedule.Since I don't have them, hopefully he'll pay off.

Would you sit/start anyone else based on three random weeks out of the last three seasons?Last year and especially three years ago means nothing for these next three weeks.Now his crappy season right now, ............. that IS relevent ...

No one really comes to mindBut I am a huge advocate of starting Lee Evans from here out given his last 3 years

 

[carlos1984]

I've lost all 3 years in the playoffs in my main dynasty because of him...2004--week 14--1st round--leaves in the 3rd with knee injury2005--week 14--1st round--13/27 for 93 yards, 1 td, 1 int--point per completion league--a good qb gets 35ish--that got 182006--week 15--2nd round--14/28 for 176 and no tds---17 points...just no.2004 and 2006--I was 1st place in regular season, I was 1st in points all 3 years--2005 managed to fall to 5th despite scoring the most points.Point blank, 3 very good teams should have won if Palmer had given what he should have.This year--1st place--most points...honest to god If I had a Kurt Warner or Derek Anderson...I wouldn't think twice. Which is just the frustration talking, and Palmer has a nice schedule.Since I don't have them, hopefully he'll pay off.

Would you sit/start anyone else based on three random weeks out of the last three seasons?Last year and especially three years ago means nothing for these next three weeks.Now his crappy season right now, ............. that IS relevent ...

No one really comes to mindBut I am a huge advocate of starting Lee Evans from here out given his last 3 years

... i guess it didn't work so well this season

 

[fsufan]

i'm one of the victims of palmerspecially this week

I sat him this past week for warner. I won by 1 PT me or guy

 

[Jon_Moore]

I've lost all 3 years in the playoffs in my main dynasty because of him...2004--week 14--1st round--leaves in the 3rd with knee injury2005--week 14--1st round--13/27 for 93 yards, 1 td, 1 int--point per completion league--a good qb gets 35ish--that got 182006--week 15--2nd round--14/28 for 176 and no tds---17 points...just no.2004 and 2006--I was 1st place in regular season, I was 1st in points all 3 years--2005 managed to fall to 5th despite scoring the most points.Point blank, 3 very good teams should have won if Palmer had given what he should have.This year--1st place--most points...honest to god If I had a Kurt Warner or Derek Anderson...I wouldn't think twice. Which is just the frustration talking, and Palmer has a nice schedule.Since I don't have them, hopefully he'll pay off.

Would you sit/start anyone else based on three random weeks out of the last three seasons?Last year and especially three years ago means nothing for these next three weeks.Now his crappy season right now, ............. that IS relevent ...

No one really comes to mindBut I am a huge advocate of starting Lee Evans from here out given his last 3 years

... i guess it didn't work so well this season

Miserably...absolutely miserablyOh, and 1st week of playoffs...Palmer...yeahNow all I can do is hope Rothlesberger, Burleson and Juervicius don't beat me.

 

[Warhound]

He did crap against the pathetic Rams. If by some miracle I advance to the second round I will start Trent Edwards against the Browns. For all you guys touting his playoff schedule I bet many of you will lose because of his play today.

 

[dickey moe]

Weak -- I traded Earnest Graham for this guy mid-way through the season.

 

[kftobin]

Palmer pretty much single handedly destroyed me in my first playoff game.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

This is hilarious too me.

A few weeks ago, a post was made about how Peyton was lacking and how people weren't getting what they expected out of him, and how he was killing their team, etc even though he was on pace to exceed his career averages.

Now, we have another thread saying the same thing about Palmer even though once again, even though he's on pace to exceed his career averages and even last years' numbers.

Get it through your heads people. You are getting EXACTLY what you drafted him for. This is what it is like owning a 4000/28 QB at the price of a high pick. People just have this wildly mixed up perception that because 4000/28 is great in real life, it must be great in fantasy football too. He is doing exactly what he was projected to do, the only thing broken or disappointing here is your interpretation of how 4000/28 translates to fantasy football.

 

[Tanner9919]

Consensus was Peyton #1 and Carson #2 this year. Carson had six TDs in one game early this year and three last week but only two or less (including ZERO this week) each week for the rest of the season. Obviously Brady and Manning, but also Favre, Romo, Anderson, Roethlisberger, and Hass have now outscored him YTD. Did CP kill anyone else's season?

vastly overrated. had one good season, and years of ho-hum output.could be a great one, but something is wrong, no reason to miss so many WIDE open WR's in the game against Pitt last week..that was awful.he might be money next season, since he'll likely drop out of the QB top 5, if not the QB top 10.another overrated player, ala D. McNabb

 

[Sinrman]

Overall, yeah, I think he's been disappointing. Ok numbers, but their offense just seems stuck in a rut this year. Teams that they should stomp are making it a lot closer.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Not a terrible season by any means. He just didn't take that next step Peyton/Brady have in their careers. I think many expected, myself included, that to happen with arguably the top trio WR group in the league.

 

[Wally Cleaver]

This is hilarious too me.A few weeks ago, a post was made about how Peyton was lacking and how people weren't getting what they expected out of him, and how he was killing their team, etc even though he was on pace to exceed his career averages.Now, we have another thread saying the same thing about Palmer even though once again, even though he's on pace to exceed his career averages and even last years' numbers.Get it through your heads people. You are getting EXACTLY what you drafted him for. This is what it is like owning a 4000/28 QB at the price of a high pick. People just have this wildly mixed up perception that because 4000/28 is great in real life, it must be great in fantasy football too. He is doing exactly what he was projected to do, the only thing broken or disappointing here is your interpretation of how 4000/28 translates to fantasy football.

Most of what you say is true, but being disappointed in how he fared against a very weak Rams team at home in the first week of the playoffs is more than justified regardless of his season totals...

 

[Supercool]

This is hilarious too me.A few weeks ago, a post was made about how Peyton was lacking and how people weren't getting what they expected out of him, and how he was killing their team, etc even though he was on pace to exceed his career averages.Now, we have another thread saying the same thing about Palmer even though once again, even though he's on pace to exceed his career averages and even last years' numbers.Get it through your heads people. You are getting EXACTLY what you drafted him for. This is what it is like owning a 4000/28 QB at the price of a high pick. People just have this wildly mixed up perception that because 4000/28 is great in real life, it must be great in fantasy football too. He is doing exactly what he was projected to do, the only thing broken or disappointing here is your interpretation of how 4000/28 translates to fantasy football.

Most of what you say is true, but being disappointed in how he fared against a very weak Rams team at home in the first week of the playoffs is more than justified regardless of his season totals...

I think the problem is we all thought he was going to explode this year with Housh breaking out and CJ holding his own. CJ hasn't produced like years past and Palmer's #'s are bloated because of 2 games. If he spread those points over other games guys might not think so low of him right now. He surly didn't put up the #'s we all thought he would today and that's going to cost alot of guys a playoff game. Probably me as well I have to go against Brees tomorrow and he has to get under 3 TD's. I doubt it. Thanks Carson...........

 

[Judge Smails]

People cut this guy WAY too much slack. Forget about fantasy football. He is vastly overrated as an NFL quarterback. How can someone constantly not see LB/DB's, right in front of him? Does anyone throw more stupid picks on short routes in the league? Just horrid, especially for the weapons he has.

 

[PantherPower]

I am. But i think HOPEFULLY a full year with all 3 WRs next year (assuming CJ isn't going anywhere and Henry isn't in jail) will equal an all pro type of season for him.

 

[packersfan]

People cut this guy WAY too much slack. Forget about fantasy football. He is vastly overrated as an NFL quarterback. How can someone constantly not see LB/DB's, right in front of him? Does anyone throw more stupid picks on short routes in the league? Just horrid, especially for the weapons he has.

I think he's talented but there's no excuse for him not throwing a single TD against the Rams today. None. He has exceptional weapons and the Rams flat-out stink defensively. And no, I'm not a Palmer owner. I was just mystified that he couldn't finish a single drive with a scoring pass today given the talent around him, at home against a deplorable defense.

 

[chocolate bomber]

He's left me at the altar two years in a row durig the playoffs. Last year he had roughly 180yds and no TDs in wk 15 and killed me. This year he lays 3pts while I've got Favre and Big Ben on the bench. He's money during the reg season, but if I should survive this nightmare there is no way I'll start him even against SF. Sickening.

 

[NYRAGE]

He's left me at the altar two years in a row durig the playoffs. Last year he had roughly 180yds and no TDs in wk 15 and killed me. This year he lays 3pts while I've got Favre and Big Ben on the bench. He's money during the reg season, but if I should survive this nightmare there is no way I'll start him even against SF. Sickening.

Don't remind me. I needed 2 points from him last year against a bad Indy defense. I got one point thanks to the fumble (he actually had 4 fumbles, but only lost one).

 

[Jayrod]

Between Palmer, CJ and Peterson, I'm praying for a miracle.

 

[LMF]

Wow, are you guys actually serious? Let's say... ohhh, just "Fantasy Football" for a second. You say he was the Consensus number 2? And I agree with that. Last year he was the 6th QB on points per week with 17.3, this year he is the 10th QB with 17.1 points per week. So tell me again how that makes he sooo much worse than last year? And how he has killllled your team? You guys are a joke if you think that he had a MUCH better year last year. Just because there are more QB's doing well this year than last year doesnt mean that he is worse. He has been more consistant this year than last year. Last year he had 3 games under 10 points, this year he only has 2 and they are BARELY in my league i have him in. I'd be happy to give fair market value for a top 5 QB for him in any of my leagues. You guys are funny, I always enjoy a late night laugh!

 

[LMF]

Consensus was Peyton #1 and Carson #2 this year. Carson had six TDs in one game early this year and three last week but only two or less (including ZERO this week) each week for the rest of the season. Obviously Brady and Manning, but also Favre, Romo, Anderson, Roethlisberger, and Hass have now outscored him YTD. Did CP kill anyone else's season?

vastly overrated. had one good season, and years of ho-hum output.could be a great one, but something is wrong, no reason to miss so many WIDE open WR's in the game against Pitt last week..

that was awful.

he might be money next season, since he'll likely drop out of the QB top 5, if not the QB top 10.

another overrated player, ala D. McNabb

His first year as a starter was a top 20 then the two following were top 5 and this year is TBD. So i just have to when I read this. Considering he has two top fives and a top ten this year atleast I just can't see him dropping out of the top 10.

 

[mggoilers]

I've owned him for 3 years, and am very happy with him. Today was a bit sketchy, but the weather was terrible. The Rams D isn't as bad as you may think, no help from the injury bug and playing D on short fields due to turnovers from that Offense.

Palmer has played without a running game most of the season, and he has also been forced to throw when the opposing team knows you have to throw or you just can't run the ball.

Not too mention, no Willie Anderson and Henry most of the year.

I'm hoping for a big game against the 9ers

 

[Judge Smails]

I've owned him for 3 years, and am very happy with him. Today was a bit sketchy, but the weather was terrible. The Rams D isn't as bad as you may think, no help from the injury bug and playing D on short fields due to turnovers from that Offense.Palmer has played without a running game most of the season, and he has also been forced to throw when the opposing team knows you have to throw or you just can't run the ball.Not too mention, no Willie Anderson and Henry most of the year.I'm hoping for a big game against the 9ers

I don't buy any of this. Forget fantasy football. He is making reads/throws that a good NFL QB doesn't make. Cincy loses games because they don't control TOP, turn the ball over and don't finish drives. I place a large part of that directly on Mr. Palmer's shoulders. Throws a pretty deep ball, but horrible intermediate reads, isn't mobile, etc. No thanks.That being said - I own CJ, so please come correct Mr. Palmer.

 

[mbuehner]

Last year he was the 6th QB on points per week with 17.3, this year he is the 10th QB with 17.1 points per week. So tell me again how that makes he sooo much worse than last year?

4 slots? And dropping?The problem is he scored 50% more FPs in the first 7 games than in the last 7 games. He's getting worse as the season goes on, not better. Last season Palmer was coming off a major injury. He was projected to improve his numbers coming in healthy with a full offseason. Instead he has regressed. Like it or not, you project a guy that high you dont expect him to lay an egg in the playoffs with healthy weapons against a bad opponent.