Anyone else disappointed? (1 Viewer)

[Bankerguy]

Thanks for the feedback. 

Sounds like the ranking / scoring system is the primary thing. That's always been interesting and something we've looked at. Scoring it becomes a challenge as you have to figure out if you're rewarding or punishing aggressiveness or conservative play. I can't promise anything but we'll look there. The scoring system is the primary reason not to subscribe?

Well Joe,

The great thing is that you can decide that! Perfection is not expected (at least from me)...similar to the 35k contest, it's not perfect, but it kept me coming back for a couple of years.  If you are indeed serious. Make a call, explain your rationale and try it out and tweak it each year   . IMO...it's better than the same old same old malaise.

I appreciate you responding.

 

[Bankerguy]

Thanks for the feedback. 

Sounds like the ranking / scoring system is the primary thing. That's always been interesting and something we've looked at. Scoring it becomes a challenge as you have to figure out if you're rewarding or punishing aggressiveness or conservative play. I can't promise anything but we'll look there. The scoring system is the primary reason not to subscribe?

Well Joe,

The great thing is that you can decide that! Perfection is not expected (at least from me)...similar to the 35k contest, it's not perfect, but it kept me coming back for a couple of years.  If you are indeed serious. Make a call, explain your rationale and try it out and tweak it each year   . IMO...it's better than the same old same old malaise.

I appreciate you responding.

 

[Bankerguy]

Apologies for the multiple posts...not sure what happened there.

 

[rschroeder1]

Relatively new to these boards, but I think these boards are drastically better than the RotoWorld boards.  A lot more thoughtful analysis here, people willing to admit flaws in their theories, why players might suck.  RotoWorld is just a bunch of chest beating these days.

While certainly there is a ton of information available regarding fantasy football, I don't think this negates the use of boards like this or somehow makes the game less fun.  There's a very real first-mover advantage because of all the information available.  Likewise, I find these boards helpful to gauge how people are feeling about certain players.  My league-mates can certainly fall for the same group think that can take place on boards like this...but you have to know what the groupthink is!

 

[Bankerguy]

Thanks for the feedback. 

Sounds like the ranking / scoring system is the primary thing. That's always been interesting and something we've looked at. Scoring it becomes a challenge as you have to figure out if you're rewarding or punishing aggressiveness or conservative play. I can't promise anything but we'll look there. The scoring system is the primary reason not to subscribe?

Oops, missed your question.

My reason to not subscribe, is that I am not convinced the staff pre draft rankings and weekly projections are good.  Tracking it will create value as to who to listen to. Aside from the 35k Contest what else I am really paying for?

I play in one league and gave up Daily games last year.  Not sure how I am getting value for my dollar as far as information/dollar.  The opportunity for me to try to see how I stack up against pros and follow posters certainly makes me willing to for entertainment/dollar.  I guess my point is that Fantasy is both an Information purchase as well as an entertainment purchase.  Make sense?  I think to re-up I want to be more engaged, you need to create the tools to make that happen.

I am mildly uncomfortable being "negative" in your lobby/message boards.  I am not trying to convince others to not subscribe, just explaining why I don't think I will - unless something changes. You are a good guy and I have been around since the previous board. I think the industry is changing again.

 

[Interseptopus]

Just embrace DFS and you'll see the light.

Yeah I am highly considering this unfortunately. Going to the dark side... 

 

[Interseptopus]

Joe...

I find myself spending less and less time here. I personally believe you need to do the following:

-Create a way to track your own and staff's projections/rankings and how accurate they are on a weekly and YTD basis. Some staff are less accurate then others.

-Create opportunities for the shark pool posters to have the same opportunity to be able to demonstrate their abilities. Create a tool that lets us create and submit projections that get tracked, graded and ranked. Post rankings and allow all posters to view the other posters projections.

Might even be a good way to find new talent for staff. I won’t name names, but some of the staff are terrible with rankings and projections. 

There is no buzz in the SP aside from petty pissing matches and very basic posting that 95% of us already know. 

At present...I won’t be renewing my subscription, but will likely pop in still. 

Not promoting another website (it doesn't exist), however a buddy of mine is in the process of creating a fantasy football forum where the posters answer questions, give rankings, etc. The posters are graded on how accurate they are. WDIS/Rankings/etc. You earn "prestige points" based on your accuracy. And if there's one thing we all know, online message board posters love a good ego boost (I've seriously seen posters in here say "You don't have as many likes as I do"). It's pretty much exactly what you describe but there are no "experts;" YOU are the expert. And if you are more correct than yuo are incorrect your opinion goes a lot longer than someone who is just here to ruffle up some feathers and get his jollies off making trouble and being contrary. 

 

 

[Interseptopus]

Thanks for the feedback. 

Sounds like the ranking / scoring system is the primary thing. That's always been interesting and something we've looked at. Scoring it becomes a challenge as you have to figure out if you're rewarding or punishing aggressiveness or conservative play. I can't promise anything but we'll look there. The scoring system is the primary reason not to subscribe?

I don't think a scoring system is the primary reason not to subscribe, but more lack of accountability.

It's easy for someone to say to spend 30% of your FAAB on a particular player week 3, tell you he's WW material week 4, and then week 5 tell you to spend 50% FAAB to get him back. He doesn't lose anything. People already paid. His content is becoming laughable TBH because of how much it varies but it doesn't seem to matter. Some things offered on a weekly basis, especially the WW upgrade/downgrade is so bipolar it's insane; it depends so much on a week to week performance. If Carr has a bad week against a top defense he's downgraded to be benched next week, when his matchup is extremely favorable? Huh? 

Or it's easy to rank players on a week to week basis, mail it in, and not worry about being right or wrong. Who cares, how many people really dissect my rankings on a weekly basis after the fact? Not saying everyone is doing this, but some are more accurate than others

If  someone on your staff put in some snooze-fest rankings every week (nothing new, nothing different, nothing I can't get for free off a basic google search), and no one knows the better of it, FBG, at that point, is only keeping players coming back for other content (not rankings) or just based off their previously built reputation. How far does a reputation take you alone? In my line of work my success is significant tracked. I know how much better my patients with back, neck, leg, shoulder problems improve, and in how many visits compared to everyone else in my clinic. It helps me grow as a clinician. Also, wouldn't it be a great marketing tool to somehow quantify your "correctness:" "FBG had a 87% accuracy in weekly rankings as a group in 2017!" It may also challenge your staff to work a little harder on weekly rankings and show them areas they can improve on. 

Also, MyFBG hasn't synced to Yahoo since I think week 3... manual syncs don't work. I gave up a few weeks ago and stopped using the content. Honestly been using it as a tie breaker for my flex position from the rankings. 

 

[Yotes1]

Just my second year on the site, and I'm really pretty happy with how the bugs from last year were addressed.  Rankings aren't that important as the industry as a whole just seems to pretty much spit out the same stuff.  Much rather go with my gut and be wrong than go by other opinions.  Prime example is this week where Dodds and Tremblay still want to use whatever algorithms they apply and suggest starting Hunt over Burkhead.  How many weeks does it take to realize that applying #'s from weeks 1-5 just isn't applicable to a dumpster fire that is the Chiefs?  As far as having something where people can post their own rankings and possibly compete, that would be somewhat entertaining, but would take quite a while to really establish credibility.  One year of NFL is really a small sample size.  

Still value some of the weekly articles....Waldman and the Roundtable in particular.  Bramel's injury reports are a concise way of making sure you're not missing something on that front.

Message board is a mixed bag.  The whizzing contests are what they are and it doesn't take too long to figure out which posters are just getting their shorts in a bunch because SOMEBODY ON THE INTERNET IS WRONG (according to them)!  But, as mentioned in an earlier post it helps getting a jump on league-mates to pick up some players before they become the flavor of the week.  SSND's film room is one of the best resources that I know of to see what trends are developing. 

DFS is out for me as it is not legal in my state.  Pretty bummed about that because I really got into football, basketball and baseball side of that. 

All in all, I'm satisfied with what I get for my buck, but totally understand others that feel differently.  We all get to spend our money the way we want (minus the taxes).