Anyone else had it with MJD? (1 Viewer)

[coltsnut]

MJD looks horrible. He tore Tenn up last year, and I was expecting much of the same this year. He just doesn't have the 2nd gear this year. Something has to be going on...perhaps a couple of injuries are slowing him down. With Garrard likely out, he's likely going to my bench in favor of <gulp> Marshawn Lynch vs Arizona.

Anyone else with any decent options considering benching him? I realize "never bench your studs"...but is he really a stud this year?

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

I'm benching him for Lynch this week. I'm tired of it. I don't know what all is going on with him, but he's just not doing it this year.

 

[FavreCo]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

 

[Clifford]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

Point me to the thread in August where you said he wouldn't be in the top 25 RBs after six weeks.

 

[eaglezzz]

I will ride him to the finish line. I have both MJD and Best so every week is a "oh crap why can't these guys get me points".

I think MJD will have a strong finish to the season, the TD's will come.

 

[coltsnut]

He's not catching the ball, either. Last year he was used on screen plays a lot and had several catches out of the backfield each game.

Seems like the run him up the gut everytime...the one play I remember them getting him the ball outside the tackles he ran for 11 yds...never went back IIRC.

 

[Ralph's Plantation]

Yup the time has come for action.

I just packaged MJD along with M. Colston (another disappointment) and M. Floyd for R. Rice, M. Wallace and K. Britt.

I actually think S-Jax is in a much better situation with his O.

 

[Hank Mardukas]

I'm done with him. Trying to package him any way I can while his name still carries some value. Del Rio is a moron and couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag. They had 3rd and goal at the 1 and Edwards had been horrible, so what does he do? Go shotgun 2 plays in a row. JAX' schedule is brutal too.

 

[FavreCo]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

Point me to the thread in August where you said he wouldn't be in the top 25 RBs after six weeks.

He sucks that bad? Ouch. Didn't think it would be that bad. Now onto your wanting a thread. You obviously have no idea how many threads get deleted around here.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

Point me to the thread in August where you said he wouldn't be in the top 25 RBs after six weeks.

He sucks that bad? Ouch. Didn't think it would be that bad. Now onto your wanting a thread. You obviously have no idea how many threads get deleted around here.

He is top-25 in every league I'm in, although in the 20-25 range. I've never seen a thread with legitimate player discussion deleted in all the years I've been coming here.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I said numerous times he won't finish top 10 this year. Heck, I even turned down offers of MJD for McFadden (when McFadden was healthy and tearing it up). I'd *still* turn down MJD for McFadden.

But even I think benching him for Lynch is a bit much. Lynch averaged under 3 ypc last week. It's not like he's tearing it up or Seattle is a powerhouse offense.

 

[OMG! Ponies!]

Yup the time has come for action.I just packaged MJD along with M. Colston (another disappointment) and M. Floyd for R. Rice, M. Wallace and K. Britt.I actually think S-Jax is in a much better situation with his O.

you killed that deal, imo.

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

MJD looks horrible. He tore Tenn up last year, and I was expecting much of the same this year. He just doesn't have the 2nd gear this year. Something has to be going on...perhaps a couple of injuries are slowing him down. With Garrard likely out, he's likely going to my bench in favor of <gulp> Marshawn Lynch vs Arizona.Anyone else with any decent options considering benching him? I realize "never bench your studs"...but is he really a stud this year?

Count me in the camp that has went with Lynch. Seeing the nagging injuries, the poor QB play, and the blueprint for stopping MJD and the Jags' offense for the whole world to see, I traded Jones-Drew and Sims-Walker for Hakeem Nicks and Justin Forsett (I have Lynch) on Tuesday. I put MJD up for bid and the whole 16 team league seems to have soured on him.I probably could have gotten more if I waited it out but have seen enough.

 

[Keepers]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

Point me to the thread in August where you said he wouldn't be in the top 25 RBs after six weeks.

Agree that no one expected it to be this bad but back in August there were a lot of naysayers on MJD. Think just about everyone expected him to still be worth a top 10 overall pick but there were concerns going into the season with the O-line and not playing in pre-season with injuries, so picking him at 3rd overall was risky (I don't think it was outrageous to rank even AJ, Gore and maybe Rodgers ahead of him depending on the scoring and size of the league). For anyone who ignored the warning signs and picked him top 2, you sort of asked for it.

 

[Clifford]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

Point me to the thread in August where you said he wouldn't be in the top 25 RBs after six weeks.

He sucks that bad? Ouch. Didn't think it would be that bad. Now onto your wanting a thread. You obviously have no idea how many threads get deleted around here.

Just some pretty convenient hindsight there. We all had some doubts but I don't think many people thought he would be doing this bad.

 

[Phurfur]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

Point me to the thread in August where you said he wouldn't be in the top 25 RBs after six weeks.

Your top 25 comment is ridiculous but many of us new MJD was on the decline. Do a search because it was brought up and discussed. Some people argued against it and now they are shocked. Unfortunately this is the part of FF that is not luck.I had him rated as my #5 RB and would have drafted him 7th (after Rodgers and Brees) but he never got that far. Fortunately for me this is the part of FF that is luck.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

Point me to the thread in August where you said he wouldn't be in the top 25 RBs after six weeks.

He sucks that bad? Ouch. Didn't think it would be that bad. Now onto your wanting a thread. You obviously have no idea how many threads get deleted around here.

Just some pretty convenient hindsight there. We all had some doubts but I don't think many people thought he would be doing this bad.

Nobody thought he would be THIS bad, but LOTS of people were low on him. I wasn't the only one who had him ranked outside the top 10.I've certainly missed on quite a few players but there were loads of warning signs around MJD coming into the year. If you ignored the smoke that's your problem.

 

[Clifford]

I was down on him as well but don't own him. I just think that those who thought he was in for a down year were thinking something along the lines of RB7-12, not where he is now. Let's not be so quick to assume someone else's reasoning or motivation, mmmkay?

ETA: A-a-assuming's bad.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I was down on him as well but don't own him. I just think that those who thought he was in for a down year were thinking something along the lines of RB7-12, not where he is now. Let's not be so quick to assume someone else's reasoning or motivation, mmmkay?ETA: A-a-assuming's bad.

Your edit was quite toolish and unnecessary. To the OP - I can't imagine there are any MJD owners who HAVEN'T "had it" with the guy. But what to do? I'd shop him hard for whatever you can get...but depending how low others in the league are, it won't be worth it do anything but hold onto the guy.I still think his knee is hurt.His qb stinks and is hurt.His o-line is bad.The playcalling is terrible.That said, he'll still have a couple big weeks from here on out. I offered the MJD owner in my league Lynch/Favre (2 qb league w/Vick as his #2). He laughed. I don't blame him.

 

[Clifford]

I was down on him as well but don't own him. I just think that those who thought he was in for a down year were thinking something along the lines of RB7-12, not where he is now. Let's not be so quick to assume someone else's reasoning or motivation, mmmkay?

ETA: A-a-assuming's bad.

Your edit was quite toolish and unnecessary. To the OP - I can't imagine there are any MJD owners who HAVEN'T "had it" with the guy. But what to do? I'd shop him hard for whatever you can get...but depending how low others in the league are, it won't be worth it do anything but hold onto the guy.

I still think his knee is hurt.

His qb stinks and is hurt.

His o-line is bad.

The playcalling is terrible.

That said, he'll still have a couple big weeks from here on out.

I offered the MJD owner in my league Lynch/Favre (2 qb league w/Vick as his #2). He laughed. I don't blame him.

If your vocab is this limited don't even try.

 

[Alex96]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

Hasn't that been the case for the last few years, though?

 

[Concept Coop]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

How was it to be expected, when not much changed from last year?

 

[FantasyTrader]

I'm done with him as an every week lock, but he'll still see my rotation unfortunately out of necessity with Rice, Moreno and Greene rounding out my RB's.

I had a not-so-fresh feeling about him early on; but like others, I had no idea he'd be this bad. Maybe I'm being too hard on the guy (because of his lack of production) but I disagree with the general concensus that he's underperforming solely because of his O-line and supporting cast.

On Monday night, (this is just my opinion) I saw a different player than I have in year's past. The guy's always been as thick as a tree trunk below the waist, but he looked borderline fat. Maybe I'm the only one that saw it, but he looked bloaty through the midsection. And slooow. And very disinterested. When Deji came in for that entire series in the 2nd half, MJD's face looked "checked out". He wasn't standing by Del Rio and didn't look like a guy expecting/itching to go back in.

Again, maybe I'm seeing things as a dynasty owner who's been burned - but I don't think his mediocrity is all from factors beyond his control. Damn that hurt to type out loud as a Jags fan and long-time MJD backer.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I was down on him as well but don't own him. I just think that those who thought he was in for a down year were thinking something along the lines of RB7-12, not where he is now. Let's not be so quick to assume someone else's reasoning or motivation, mmmkay?

ETA: A-a-assuming's bad.

Your edit was quite toolish and unnecessary. To the OP - I can't imagine there are any MJD owners who HAVEN'T "had it" with the guy. But what to do? I'd shop him hard for whatever you can get...but depending how low others in the league are, it won't be worth it do anything but hold onto the guy.

I still think his knee is hurt.

His qb stinks and is hurt.

His o-line is bad.

The playcalling is terrible.

That said, he'll still have a couple big weeks from here on out.

I offered the MJD owner in my league Lynch/Favre (2 qb league w/Vick as his #2). He laughed. I don't blame him.

If your vocab is this limited don't even try.

It's a fantasy football board, chief. We all use certain lingo on these boreds that doesn't exist in real life.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

How was it to be expected, when not much changed from last year?

He was hurt to start this season. That's a pretty big red flag.

 

[Concept Coop]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

How was it to be expected, when not much changed from last year?

He was hurt to start this season. That's a pretty big red flag.

Sure, in hindsight. But he said it was fine, and I think we all believed him. I didn't see one thread suggesting MJD would not be top 10.

 

[Ralph's Plantation]

Yup the time has come for action.I just packaged MJD along with M. Colston (another disappointment) and M. Floyd for R. Rice, M. Wallace and K. Britt.I actually think S-Jax is in a much better situation with his O.

you killed that deal, imo.

Hopefully not veto worthy too good?I thought I had the values pretty close.

 

[FantasyTrader]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

How was it to be expected, when not much changed from last year?

He was hurt to start this season. That's a pretty big red flag.

Sure, in hindsight. But he said it was fine, and I think we all believed him. I didn't see one thread suggesting MJD would not be top 10.

There was absolutely NO definitative news in the preseason that he was hurt...bad enough to affect his value. There was some conjecture that he may be dealing with a knee issue http://fantasyfootball.com/mjd-injury-not-overblown/ but that was summarily dismissed by MJD and the organization as being a concern.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

How was it to be expected, when not much changed from last year?

He was hurt to start this season. That's a pretty big red flag.

Sure, in hindsight. But he said it was fine, and I think we all believed him. I didn't see one thread suggesting MJD would not be top 10.

There were quite a few people saying MJD wouldn't finish top 10. And teams usually play down potential injuries. There was a LOT of smoke coming out that he was injured. It might have been nothing, but you didn't see the Niners, Vikings, Titans, Falcons, and other teams dismissing injury rumors about their star running backs. But that's water under the bridge at this point. Moving forward, I'd still try to sell him...but that's probably not likely. I'd wait until his next big game then run with the best deal you can get.ETA - Even Schefter was reporting there were a lot of "concerns and doubts around the league" that his knee was healthy. Lots of "sharks" were shocked how much he was falling in drafts. Players don't fall in drafts unless people have concerns.

 

[Jambi]

I think there were a few Hawks who saw this one developing.

 

[Da Guru]

MJL looks a little slower and fatter than is years past, he does not seem to be able to bounce plays outside, and can`t outrun anybody.

 

[TwinTurbo]

The problem for MJD owners in PPR scoring leagues is that he's not getting targets and receptions in the passing game. Its killing his value. I honestly don't think there is a performance problem due to an undisclosed injury. The offense just sucks and he's not being utilized the same way as in past seasons.

 

[FantasyTrader]

The problem for MJD owners in PPR scoring leagues is that he's not getting targets and receptions in the passing game. Its killing his value. I honestly don't think there is a performance problem due to an undisclosed injury. The offense just sucks and he's not being utilized the same way as in past seasons.

He's not open. I've watched him away from the ball and he's being easily shadowed by a LB out of the backfield. He doesn't present a mismatch right now.

 

[Child Please]

He's gone from RB1 to RB3. He'll maybe have 6-7 tds instead of his usual 13-15. His receptions are way down. They are stacking the box. The secondary is so bad they are constantly playing from behind.

Debating trading MJD for Peyton Hillis but havent pulled the trigger yet. This thread is making me think I should.

 

[UnderDawgs]

As a MJD owner, I wish he'd produce more. Seems like no one trades in my league and he's on my "can't cut list", so I'm stuck with him.

 

[Hybrid]

The problem for MJD owners in PPR scoring leagues is that he's not getting targets and receptions in the passing game. Its killing his value. I honestly don't think there is a performance problem due to an undisclosed injury. The offense just sucks and he's not being utilized the same way as in past seasons.

He's not open. I've watched him away from the ball and he's being easily shadowed by a LB out of the backfield. He doesn't present a mismatch right now.

I've noticed the exact same thing. He seems to be jogging on passing plays. He seems slower on every play actually.

 

[rocketsauce]

Yeah, him taking a dump on the middle of the field on Monday Night was the last straw for me. Traded him to a starved RB owner in my league.

Gave: MJD, Brandon Jacobs, Legedu Naanee

Got: Jamaal Charles, Greg Jennings

Glad to be rid of MJD.

 

[jmo87usc]

It's gotta be depressing to be a Jaguar right now. I can't imagine getting pumped up for a game you know you are going to lose every week. He looks like he has little desire to play out there. The team can get no rhythm on offense and it looks like they rather let Karim get beat up out there than Jones-Drew based on Monday's game.

He'll rebound eventually I hope. I'm gonna keep stickin him in my lineup hoping my other players can pick up his slack while I wait for the big game.

 

[cmv5]

My question is, why are all major outlets that do rankings afraid to bump this guy out of the top 10 in weekly rankings? It is time to recognize the offense is even worse than last year and he isn't even getting receptions anymore. You could sometimes rely on him receiving a goal line touchdown. Jags don't get near the goal anymore. Now you add Karim in the mix, it is time to put him behind less talented guys with better match-ups.

I started Torain over him last week and I am starting Moreno over him this week.

 

[oswizzle]

with Garrad and Edwards both out this week and Big Todd getting the start.....expect alot of MJD...lots of receptions coming this week.... He's going to be the focus of the enitre Offense

 

[togo]

I have MJD AND Turner. It's like a slow torture every week!!!

And every week their value goes down more and more as I wait for them to step it up.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

with Garrad and Edwards both out this week and Big Todd getting the start.....expect alot of MJD...lots of receptions coming this week.... He's going to be the focus of the enitre Offense

As opposed to weeks prior, when they've decided to air it out against with their elite wr Mike Sims Walker.

 

[rocketsauce]

with Garrad and Edwards both out this week and Big Todd getting the start.....expect alot of MJD...lots of receptions coming this week.... He's going to be the focus of the enitre Offense

I just don't get this. Garrard is a horrible quarterback, and he even refuses to check down to MJD. Edwards is even worse, and HE didn't check down to MJD. So why should I assume if Todd Bouman starts that he'll finally check down? MJD is a great pass blocker, and unfortunately is doing a ton of pass blocking on plays where he should be leaking out to catch some passes.

 

[FavreCo]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

How was it to be expected, when not much changed from last year?

The OL sucks now. It used to be good. He also may have had a candy ### schedule last year, I don't know. I do know that we had no interest in this guy at all in our redraft league. Taking him at 4 I knew was a horrible move. That team is dead last in our league.

 

[FavreCo]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

Point me to the thread in August where you said he wouldn't be in the top 25 RBs after six weeks.

He sucks that bad? Ouch. Didn't think it would be that bad. Now onto your wanting a thread. You obviously have no idea how many threads get deleted around here.

He is top-25 in every league I'm in, although in the 20-25 range. I've never seen a thread with legitimate player discussion deleted in all the years I've been coming here.

Guess it wasn't deleted. As you can see I saw it coming.http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...hl=favreco+drew

 

[cubbie5150]

Yup the time has come for action.I just packaged MJD along with M. Colston (another disappointment) and M. Floyd for R. Rice, M. Wallace and K. Britt.I actually think S-Jax is in a much better situation with his O.

Your trading partner is not so smart....great deal for you obviously.

 

[Superty88x]

Going with Jcharles and Hillis from here on out. MJD I'll put in if the match up calls for it instead of Charles.

Forte last year. MJD this year. Next season if I dont draft CJ or AP I'm going with Manning in the first so I wont have to have my pick be complete ####.

 

[Herm23]

There are some VERY short sighted approaches going on in this thread. At this point and with how much he has struggled, I would say it is extremely unlikely he lives up to his draft position or finishes within a few spots of it. That being said, I think it is equally unlikely he continues to perform at RB 22-25 levels. The most likely outcome, in my opinion, is that he finishes just inside the top 10 or on the fringe of it, somewhere in the 8-15 range.

For those that spent high draft picks on him, this obviously isn't what you were expecting. However, to say you are done with him is a huge mistake and a vast overreaction. I may be accused of being slow to react and too patient at times, but in the end talent generally shows up and will allow a player to perform. MJD didn't suddenly lose his talent and I'm betting he has some big performances in him yet this year...or at least enough of them to get him back into top 10 range.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

He hasn't lost his talent but he's lost his health. And his qb. And his health. And his o-line.

I do feel when healthy he's as good as ADP/LBJ. But I don't believe he'll be healthy this year.

 

[Clifford]

He's getting the Steven Jackson treatment: No other legitimate threats on the team and a sucky OL. This was to be expected.

Point me to the thread in August where you said he wouldn't be in the top 25 RBs after six weeks.

He sucks that bad? Ouch. Didn't think it would be that bad. Now onto your wanting a thread. You obviously have no idea how many threads get deleted around here.

He is top-25 in every league I'm in, although in the 20-25 range. I've never seen a thread with legitimate player discussion deleted in all the years I've been coming here.

Guess it wasn't deleted. As you can see I saw it coming.http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...hl=favreco+drew

Not quite August but not bad either