Anyone else Lose alot of respect for LT today ? (1 Viewer)

[The Moz]

First - IF his injury was wat it was said to be and just hyperextended knee and he was able to practice and feel good afterwards which he was reported to be - what wuss ! Gates is out there playing with a fubar'd toe , Rivers a partial ACL tear !! and his knee feels a little pain and he is out of the game. Is LT really that much of a coward ? During the game I thought Turner had to be saving LT for the late stretch and he couldn't really just be riding pine already. Your team is in the AFC title game and you site becasue of a little discomfort ?

2nd - WTF was he doing sitting the entire game on the bench with visor on sulking and feeling sorry himself. Rather than trying to talk up his teamates , maybe try and give Turner pointers , try to be the leader he likes to say he is ?

Complainian should never be called LT again - LT - the real one would play if body parts fell off ! and even if had to site he would be rooting for his teamates.

 

[Coogar]

When Ur get back 2nd grade on Tuesday rmember to adk teacher work complete sentences.

 

[Statorama]

Complainian

 

[chook]

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Just like the thread, poultry (sic).

 

[NY/NJMFDIVER]

PLEASE never call that sad sack bush by those intials that now and forever belong to a MAN who played football named Lawrence Taylor. The one and the only, LT.

Ladanian is a joke for running his mouth and coming up small against the Pats twice.

 

[slayer666]

Complainian

 

[Koya]

Complainian

Hey, Complainian is hurt. Call him a waaaaambulance. (Yes, waaambulace is stonlen from those McD's commericals, but it just fits so nicely).Seriously, it is nearly impossible to call a guy out for being hurt, but this certainly has me questioning LT2 a little. You'd think they would have to cart him off or just shut him down rather than the other way around.

 

[Tom Baker]

I'll stop calling Tomlinson "LT" when people stop referring to Adrian "Glass Man" Peterson as "All Day"

That said, the scene today was somewhat disturbing . . .

 

[bluesclues]

A healthy Turner is better than an unhealthy LT2.

I give him credit to sit without being greedy and giving his team the best chance to win....to bad Rivers did not do the same!

 

[shredhead]

A healthy Turner is better than an unhealthy LT2.I give him credit to sit without being greedy and giving his team the best chance to win....to bad Rivers did not do the same!

Interesting point! I like it. All I've been reading is anti LT for sitting. Maybe, just maybe he was sulking because he didn't want to be sitting on the sidelines during the most important game of his career. Maybe it was his unselfishness that had him sitting on the sidelines because he knew his team had the best chance to win with Turner on the field. Interseting point indeed! I don't know which side of this argument is right, but I think I will reserve judgement for the time being!

 

[Big_Russel]

First - IF his injury was wat it was said to be and just hyperextended knee and he was able to practice and feel good afterwards which he was reported to be - what wuss ! Gates is out there playing with a fubar'd toe , Rivers a partial ACL tear !! and his knee feels a little pain and he is out of the game. Is LT really that much of a coward ? During the game I thought Turner had to be saving LT for the late stretch and he couldn't really just be riding pine already. Your team is in the AFC title game and you site becasue of a little discomfort ? 2nd - WTF was he doing sitting the entire game on the bench with visor on sulking and feeling sorry himself. Rather than trying to talk up his teamates , maybe try and give Turner pointers , try to be the leader he likes to say he is ? Complainian should never be called LT again - LT - the real one would play if body parts fell off ! and even if had to site he would be rooting for his teamates.

What a little cupcake Tomlinson is. I'll never look at him the same way. "Complainian" is the perfect nickname for him. I heard some dude call him that on the FOX late night radio show last week. Was that you bro??

 

[Big_Russel]

I give him credit to sit without being greedy and giving his team the best chance to win....to bad Rivers did not do the same!

He could have at least been cheering his boys on! For a dude who likes to think of himswlf as a "leader", he sure didnt act like one. Sitting there bundled up like a chick in the stands. That was sorry.

 

[Koya]

Something to be noted: Ladanian has always looked up to E. Smith, talking about how he modelled himself in someways after him, is target Smith's record and all.

Emmitt Smith played and won games in extreme immense pain. Can't see Smith not gutting it out unless there is something we don't know about the extend of LT2s injury.

 

[NY/NJMFDIVER]

First - IF his injury was wat it was said to be and just hyperextended knee and he was able to practice and feel good afterwards which he was reported to be - what wuss ! Gates is out there playing with a fubar'd toe , Rivers a partial ACL tear !! and his knee feels a little pain and he is out of the game. Is LT really that much of a coward ? During the game I thought Turner had to be saving LT for the late stretch and he couldn't really just be riding pine already. Your team is in the AFC title game and you site becasue of a little discomfort ?

2nd - WTF was he doing sitting the entire game on the bench with visor on sulking and feeling sorry himself. Rather than trying to talk up his teamates , maybe try and give Turner pointers , try to be the leader he likes to say he is ?

Complainian should never be called LT again - LT - the real one would play if body parts fell off ! and even if had to site he would be rooting for his teamates.

LOL, I totally read past your LT reference, which I basically echoed in my post, but you're absolutely right, and who ever called him a little Cupcake is PERFECT. Although I also like Lady Tomilinson

 

[Loopdog]

you guys are ridiculous. You have no idea what is wrong with Tomlinson and may never know. Cut the guy some slack. He played almost an entire season with a torn groin. I'm sure if he could have been out there today, he would have been. Jesus, the lynch mentality around here is disgusting. The guy is a class act, one of the best players in football and leaves his heart on the field every game and we have to listen to people ridicule him when they have no idea what the real story is.

 

[sad pandas]

I believe the New LT is...

Lawerence Tynes

 

[discofan]

The guy has played over 1/4 of a season with broken ribs and over a half a season with a torn groin. He apparently couldn't go today. If his knee isn't good enough to play on then that's pretty much it for a RB. You can't really overcome knee injuries by playing through them.

 

[Johnny Ice]

Ladanian definitely went down a couple of notches in my book. Would Jim Brown or Emmitt, his idols, sit during the Championship game all warm and cozy on the hot seat when his gimp QB and TE are out there giving it all they have. I just don't see how he didn't give it more than he did. Let me see you on short yardage at least if that's all you got and definitely be up on the sidelines encouraging your teammates. I'm disappointed in LT.

 

[radballs]

you guys are ridiculous. You have no idea what is wrong with Tomlinson and may never know. Cut the guy some slack. He played almost an entire season with a torn groin. I'm sure if he could have been out there today, he would have been. Jesus, the lynch mentality around here is disgusting. The guy is a class act, one of the best players in football and leaves his heart on the field every game and we have to listen to people ridicule him when they have no idea what the real story is.

I'm amazed at all the insider rhetoric here about where his health was today. How can you question the guy when you have no idea what his condition was? I give that kind of stud the benefit of the doubt without question.

 

[Clifton]

you guys are ridiculous. You have no idea what is wrong with Tomlinson and may never know. Cut the guy some slack. He played almost an entire season with a torn groin. I'm sure if he could have been out there today, he would have been. Jesus, the lynch mentality around here is disgusting. The guy is a class act, one of the best players in football and leaves his heart on the field every game and we have to listen to people ridicule him when they have no idea what the real story is.

He's a helluva RB but he sure as hell isn't all class. These people are right. He sat on the sidelines like a Gatorade cooler. Maybe he was feeling like he was physically letting his team down. Big deal...suck it up and get out there and rile up your teammates. Class? Dude's a whiner. He can run but he acts like a 13 year old.

 

[((Morpheus))]

obviously lt's injury is far worse than we originally suspected...

 

[Franchise Playa]

Im not going to pile on but injured or not why was he not more of a motivator/cheerleader on the sideline? Im sure the team could have used some rah rah from their leader and franchise guy. Im sure injury aside that is what has most people questioning him....

 

[NY/NJMFDIVER]

Im not going to pile on but injured or not why was he not more of a motivator/cheerleader on the sideline? Im sure the team could have used some rah rah from their leader and franchise guy. Im sure injury aside that is what has most people questioning him....

And if he's "too down" to do that, then go sit on the trainers table and pout. I think thats what more people here are up in arms about.

 

[Limecuda]

Wasn't the statement made during the 2nd quarter that the coach was keeping LT out? Turner played well. What more could an injured LT accomplish that Turner couldn't? I don't believe it was LT making those offensive calls in the redzone.

 

[Franchise Playa]

Wasn't the statement made during the 2nd quarter that the coach was keeping LT out? Turner played well. What more could an injured LT accomplish that Turner couldn't? I don't believe it was LT making those offensive calls in the redzone.

So pouting on the sideline was a good counter to being kept out the game?

 

[weasel3515]

So it went from a knee injury to a knee injury to a torn groin plus some broken ribs? Sounds like urban legends...excuses to me. He's been pretty impervious to injury to this point...he should have given it a go. He has killed many a fantasy team over the last few years...I don't feel sorry for him or his demise.

 

[krsone21]

When Ur get back 2nd grade on Tuesday rmember to adk teacher work complete sentences.

Another helpful thread posted. I don't think its necessary to put people down for there spelling. Not everyone is a spelling ace like you.

 

[Limecuda]

Wasn't the statement made during the 2nd quarter that the coach was keeping LT out? Turner played well. What more could an injured LT accomplish that Turner couldn't? I don't believe it was LT making those offensive calls in the redzone.

So pouting on the sideline was a good counter to being kept out the game?

These guys give it their all win or lose. To be hurt going into the most important game of the year is difficult for a competitor. People handle disappointment and adversity differently. If people want to throw the best rb in the league under the bus because his team just lost, then by all means go ahead.

 

[Clifton]

So it went from a knee injury to a knee injury to a torn groin plus some broken ribs? Sounds like urban legends...excuses to me. He's been pretty impervious to injury to this point...he should have given it a go. He has killed many a fantasy team over the last few years...I don't feel sorry for him or his demise.

He owes it to his Playoff Fantasy owners. This guy is right. Without FF, Lady T would take a pay cut.

 

[thayman]

When Ur get back 2nd grade on Tuesday rmember to adk teacher work complete sentences.

Another helpful thread posted. I don't think its necessary to put people down for there spelling. Not everyone is a spelling ace like you.

It would be "their" not "there".Sorry I couldn't help it.....

 

[thayman]

So it went from a knee injury to a knee injury to a torn groin plus some broken ribs? Sounds like urban legends...excuses to me. He's been pretty impervious to injury to this point...he should have given it a go. He has killed many a fantasy team over the last few years...I don't feel sorry for him or his demise.

He had the torn groin in '05, and the broken ribs in '04 IIRC.

 

[radballs]

He has killed many a fantasy team over the last few years...I don't feel sorry for him or his demise.

Not sure where you're getting this. He single handedly helped me win $7K in the WCOFF in 2006.

 

[Notinuse]

Wow, this board likes to overreact to a lot of stuff.

 

[radballs]

Wow, this board likes to overreact to a lot of stuff.

It gets much better around here in the off season by the way.

 

[cstu]

Im not going to pile on but injured or not why was he not more of a motivator/cheerleader on the sideline? Im sure the team could have used some rah rah from their leader and franchise guy. Im sure injury aside that is what has most people questioning him....

Maybe you're right, but I thought he didn't want to be a distraction. It was probably better for him to stay out of the way so the team wasn't thinking "man, too bad we don't have LT". He was quiet and let Turner do his thing and help them win. If anyone is honestly questioning LT's heart you're out of your mind. He'd be out there if it would help them win - anyone that thinks different never watched him play through a torn groin or cracked ribs.

 

[cstu]

So it went from a knee injury to a knee injury to a torn groin plus some broken ribs? Sounds like urban legends...excuses to me. He's been pretty impervious to injury to this point...he should have given it a go. He has killed many a fantasy team over the last few years...I don't feel sorry for him or his demise.

Sounds like somebody doesn't watch the Chargers.

 

[dwaynecherokee]

I'm just waiting on a decent playoff game from complainian.....he deserves the same bashing Peyton received before he got the monkey off his back. He's supposed to be great but has yet to show up when they REALLY need him. I dont have him on the same pedestal anymore.

 

[cstu]

I'm just waiting on a decent playoff game from complainian.....he deserves the same bashing Peyton received before he got the monkey off his back. He's supposed to be great but has yet to show up when they REALLY need him. I dont have him on the same pedestal anymore.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

I think LT (yes, he is LT. I'm not giving some crackhead the privilege of owning those initials) needs to eventually come up big in the playoffs, but he was hurt this week. He tried to go but couldn't. I'm sure it bothered him that he couldn't be out there.

As far as "coaching" Turner...I'm not convinced they're all that tight. Turner thinks that he's good enough to start, and he's probably right. I don't think he's enjoyed playing behind "the man" for years.

LT is a pretty classy player. Sure, you can pick out isolated incidents that make him look like a tool, but you can say that about almost any athlete. He gets emotional, and he's not Brett Favre-syle classy. So what? The real issue is coming up big when it matters most, and he hasn't done that yet.

But LT plays hurt and he plays hard. He carries the ball a lot and maybe he's wearing down. But he's still a great player and he didn't drop in my eyes this weekend. I also thought Rivers was on good behavior after the game.

 

[Michael Brown]

I think LT (yes, he is LT. I'm not giving some crackhead the privilege of owning those initials) needs to eventually come up big in the playoffs, but he was hurt this week. He tried to go but couldn't. I'm sure it bothered him that he couldn't be out there.

As far as "coaching" Turner...I'm not convinced they're all that tight. Turner thinks that he's good enough to start, and he's probably right. I don't think he's enjoyed playing behind "the man" for years.

LT is a pretty classy player. Sure, you can pick out isolated incidents that make him look like a tool, but you can say that about almost any athlete. He gets emotional, and he's not Brett Favre-syle classy. So what? The real issue is coming up big when it matters most, and he hasn't done that yet.

But LT plays hurt and he plays hard. He carries the ball a lot and maybe he's wearing down. But he's still a great player and he didn't drop in my eyes this weekend. I also thought Rivers was on good behavior after the game.

I agree with almost all of what you said here so I'm hesitant to call you out on this, and I do love Favre. But I don't get why Favre is on another level of class above anyone. He has all but run the way Green Bay does business the past few years, he's kept fans and management waiting on his "will-he-or-won't-he" retirement antics for years, and he was 100% in the wrong on the Javon Walker contract issue a few years back.Just saying, Tomlinson is as class as they come in the NFL...Favre included.

 

[pinda]

The word LT and class act gets thrown around here a lot. IMHO, those words after last year should not be associated any more. Yes he's still a great RB and such, but classy??? No not really.

A classy guy doesn't whine and cry about Belichek's Patriots being classless for doing the Merriman dance. A classy guy doesn't berate his young QB all over the field during games. A classy guy doesn't get up the second his young QB sits down next to him. A classy guy doesn't sit around and do nothing when his young QB is mouthing off to the opposing team's QB (Cutler) but yet call other people classless. A classy guy doesn't point fingers at other being classless when his own teammate is the epitome of classless (Merriman).

And then we come to today, I think it added to his legacy. His legacy of fooling everybody that he's full of class, when he's not. I am not basing it on him sitting out, that's ok if he was injured, he tried so be it. But his overall reaction/demeanor to the game. Poster above is right, rally your troops, grab a binder of photos, find some holes, coach Turner up, do whatever it takes to help get the victory. But to sit there and sulk, pathetic.

LT2 is an amazing player no doubt. One of the greatest there is, but class is not a word that should be associated with him.

 

[cstu]

The word LT and class act gets thrown around here a lot. IMHO, those words after last year should not be associated any more. Yes he's still a great RB and such, but classy??? No not really.

A classy guy doesn't whine and cry about Belichek's Patriots being classless for doing the Merriman dance. A classy guy doesn't berate his young QB all over the field during games. A classy guy doesn't get up the second his young QB sits down next to him. A classy guy doesn't sit around and do nothing when his young QB is mouthing off to the opposing team's QB (Cutler) but yet call other people classless. A classy guy doesn't point fingers at other being classless when his own teammate is the epitome of classless (Merriman).

And then we come to today, I think it added to his legacy. His legacy of fooling everybody that he's full of class, when he's not. I am not basing it on him sitting out, that's ok if he was injured, he tried so be it. But his overall reaction/demeanor to the game. Poster above is right, rally your troops, grab a binder of photos, find some holes, coach Turner up, do whatever it takes to help get the victory. But to sit there and sulk, pathetic.

LT2 is an amazing player no doubt. One of the greatest there is, but class is not a word that should be associated with him.

 

[discofan]

I'm just waiting on a decent playoff game from complainian.....he deserves the same bashing Peyton received before he got the monkey off his back. He's supposed to be great but has yet to show up when they REALLY need him. I dont have him on the same pedestal anymore.

He had almost 200 combined yards and 2 TDs last year. How much better is he supposed to be? He can't exactly play defense.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

The word LT and class act gets thrown around here a lot. IMHO, those words after last year should not be associated any more. Yes he's still a great RB and such, but classy??? No not really.A classy guy doesn't whine and cry about Belichek's Patriots being classless for doing the Merriman dance. A classy guy doesn't berate his young QB all over the field during games. A classy guy doesn't get up the second his young QB sits down next to him. A classy guy doesn't sit around and do nothing when his young QB is mouthing off to the opposing team's QB (Cutler) but yet call other people classless. A classy guy doesn't point fingers at other being classless when his own teammate is the epitome of classless (Merriman).And then we come to today, I think it added to his legacy. His legacy of fooling everybody that he's full of class, when he's not. I am not basing it on him sitting out, that's ok if he was injured, he tried so be it. But his overall reaction/demeanor to the game. Poster above is right, rally your troops, grab a binder of photos, find some holes, coach Turner up, do whatever it takes to help get the victory. But to sit there and sulk, pathetic.LT2 is an amazing player no doubt. One of the greatest there is, but class is not a word that should be associated with him.

Agree. Get off your ### and cheer or something you wuss!

 

[Joe Bryant]

Tomlinson missing time yesterday is a good topic and something worth discussing. But keep it cool here please.

J

 

[rzrback77]

Wow, this board likes to overreact to a lot of stuff.

It gets much better around here in the off season by the way.

It always has, but I am worried going forward.

 

[Balco]

The only knock I have on LT is that he should have declared himself out before the game. Not that it ended up mattering, but it was painfully obvious on his attempted pass block that his leg was completely shot.

And trying to give accolades to Gates is just wrong. That's great, what a tough guy, he played with a bum toe. But if you play like garbage, how is that great? He cut off routes, couldn't get any separation, and when he did catch a pass, he limped straight ahead. He did not do his team any favors.

 

[Mr. Pink]

Three plays usually don't tell enough of the story, but watching the game yesterday, it was apparent that LT was on his way to an un-LT performance. Not so much the two carries up the middle, but the screen pass when he got out on the edge, but just couldn't cut it up field. A healthy LT gains the edge and makes that turn up field for a nice gain. In that play, he was ridden out of bounds fairly easily.

Norv did what he had to do. Don't put this all on LT.

As for the 'pouting' on the sideline, well, I have no suggestion on that. Agreed, he could have shown more leadership with his team fighting through a very close game.

We did find it a bit curious that the one player among the big three that were injured that was the likliest to play (LT over Rivers/Gates) played the least while the other two played all the wasy through. Thought maybe Norv was playing a bit of possum during the week.

 

[TD Ryan]

2nd - WTF was he doing sitting the entire game on the bench with visor on sulking and feeling sorry himself. Rather than trying to talk up his teamates , maybe try and give Turner pointers , try to be the leader he likes to say he is ?

that's really the only thing you can fault him for.if he isn't physically able to play, it isn't his fault.but sitting on the bench with the Darth Tomlinson Helmet on? not so good. not exactly being a "positive" influence for your team.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

alot of haters in here