Anyone not like Eddie Lacy? (2 Viewers)

[Shutout]

Lacy doesnt suck. His coach and opportunities do. Ship him to a team with fewer egos and he thrives.

Yea. I don't think this is a C.J. Spiller type situation where he has one good season and then teases us fantasy nerds for years. I could even see him rebounded in a big way in 2016, along with the whole Packers team.

Don't be shocked if he's the "value pick" darling for next year's redrafts.

he has to take conditioning seriously this offseason. He's never been ripped and has always carried a little bit of pudge, but this season, he's just fat. At some point, even for a naturally gifted athlete, you have to put a little something into it.

For the love of God, man, enough of the "he's fat" stuff. He could weigh a buck 80 or 400 and it wouldn't matter. When your coach has his head so far up his ### that he won't put you on the field, you aren't going to get production. Anyone with eyeballs and a sense of what the NFL is can clearly see that there is SOME reason why the HC is thinking/mot thinking/over thinking and it is painfully obvious.

When a guy that literally put the uniform on the first time 12 hours ago gets run, that's not the banged up line, that's not "talent", that is simply opportunity of getting a play called for you. the walk-on got opps. Eddie Didn't.

Starks was exclusively featured for the first two series and they literally called his number on every run and all but one pass. That is just a HC being stubborn/dumb/etc. You could call it smart if it netted a result but the truth is, without a MIRACLE play, the Packers would have lost their season last night.

The problem isn't that Lacy isn't built like Gronk. THe problem is the coaches feel they are smart/talented enough to do it any way they want and they are wrong. They probably lost the Bears game for "sending Lacy a message" last week and they should have lose this one. For whatever reason, its ok to exile Lacy when he's not perfect but when Starks does it, it's ok. Whatever is going on in Green Bay, I am 90% certain it could be hardily corrected if some of these idiots would check their egos.

well his productivity has gotten worse and worse as he's gotten fatter. If you want to dismiss the link, that's your choice. There's a reason professional athletes do weightlifting and conditioning. It helps.

You have absolutely no way to correlate the two into anything meaningful. The only thing we know as fact is he's always been a big back and he's been very productive for two years (even when people said he was too fat before....they were wrong).

You act as if no other Running back in the history of the league has ever played three straight years and not had a down turn at some point in one due to injuries, coaching, or whatever.

It is lazy to just say you think he looks heavier and that is the sole reason for all the woes. You don't know his weight. You don't know his weight last year. And you (and when I say you I'm not meaning to make this directed at YOU..I am speaking in general for all of us speculating this) don't see anyone talking about ALL the other obvious things going on. Anyone looking can see that the plays aren''t being called the same. The player groups aren't the same. Rodgers, Cobb, the whole lot aren't performing ANYWHERE like they have or we expect. If Lacy has devolved 50%, Rodgers has at least 40%. It's as bad all around but nobody is saying Rodgers is eating too much or not getting enough sleep or not studying enough, etc. The only player everyone seems to be wanting to scape goat here is Eddie and its not the right call.

 

[dirtyjay]

Lacy doesnt suck. His coach and opportunities do. Ship him to a team with fewer egos and he thrives.

Yea. I don't think this is a C.J. Spiller type situation where he has one good season and then teases us fantasy nerds for years. I could even see him rebounded in a big way in 2016, along with the whole Packers team.

Don't be shocked if he's the "value pick" darling for next year's redrafts.

he has to take conditioning seriously this offseason. He's never been ripped and has always carried a little bit of pudge, but this season, he's just fat. At some point, even for a naturally gifted athlete, you have to put a little something into it.

For the love of God, man, enough of the "he's fat" stuff. He could weigh a buck 80 or 400 and it wouldn't matter. When your coach has his head so far up his ### that he won't put you on the field, you aren't going to get production. Anyone with eyeballs and a sense of what the NFL is can clearly see that there is SOME reason why the HC is thinking/mot thinking/over thinking and it is painfully obvious.

When a guy that literally put the uniform on the first time 12 hours ago gets run, that's not the banged up line, that's not "talent", that is simply opportunity of getting a play called for you. the walk-on got opps. Eddie Didn't.

Starks was exclusively featured for the first two series and they literally called his number on every run and all but one pass. That is just a HC being stubborn/dumb/etc. You could call it smart if it netted a result but the truth is, without a MIRACLE play, the Packers would have lost their season last night.

The problem isn't that Lacy isn't built like Gronk. THe problem is the coaches feel they are smart/talented enough to do it any way they want and they are wrong. They probably lost the Bears game for "sending Lacy a message" last week and they should have lose this one. For whatever reason, its ok to exile Lacy when he's not perfect but when Starks does it, it's ok. Whatever is going on in Green Bay, I am 90% certain it could be hardily corrected if some of these idiots would check their egos.

well his productivity has gotten worse and worse as he's gotten fatter. If you want to dismiss the link, that's your choice. There's a reason professional athletes do weightlifting and conditioning. It helps.

You have absolutely no way to correlate the two into anything meaningful. The only thing we know as fact is he's always been a big back and he's been very productive for two years (even when people said he was too fat before....they were wrong).

You act as if no other Running back in the history of the league has ever played three straight years and not had a down turn at some point in one due to injuries, coaching, or whatever.

It is lazy to just say you think he looks heavier and that is the sole reason for all the woes. You don't know his weight. You don't know his weight last year. And you (and when I say you I'm not meaning to make this directed at YOU..I am speaking in general for all of us speculating this) don't see anyone talking about ALL the other obvious things going on. Anyone looking can see that the plays aren''t being called the same. The player groups aren't the same. Rodgers, Cobb, the whole lot aren't performing ANYWHERE like they have or we expect. If Lacy has devolved 50%, Rodgers has at least 40%. It's as bad all around but nobody is saying Rodgers is eating too much or not getting enough sleep or not studying enough, etc. The only player everyone seems to be wanting to scape goat here is Eddie and its not the right call.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Think about every player you could have had where you (me too) drafted Lacy.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

He went at 1.11 in my league. I had the next pick. But I wouldn't have picked him regardless.

How much you bench bro?

 

[JuniorNB]

guy ran like a beast last week, caughed a ball up, gets in the doghouse and the gameplan changes

they ride starks out there, he fumbles, no big deal, keep playing him, but eddie gets killed by the coach

they need to gameplan around eddie, not minmize him.. pack are going nowhere until they realize this.... starks is just a guy

the games I've seen this year don't back that up. Most games, Starks looks much better. Back when Lacey kept himself in shape, I didn't feel that way. This is 100% on Lacey. Hopefully, he's young enough and has enough pride to do something about it this offseason.

His name is Lacy not Lacey.

thanks. That's important.

Well if you want to be taken seriously, grammar is always important when you communicate on the internet, which is basically translated through strictly words.

confession: I'm still not sure how to spell Rothleisberger. I never know where to throw that first e. I guess I should have paid more attention in my Athletes Names 101 class. Lol

You could just say "Big Ben" its shorter and cuts down on the extra typing. But Lacy, has just four letters, seems adding one is more tedious and complicated.

You're right. I should know how to spell his name. I think his weight gain makes me confuse him with the chick from Cagne & Lacey.

 

[JuniorNB]

Lacy doesnt suck. His coach and opportunities do. Ship him to a team with fewer egos and he thrives.

Yea. I don't think this is a C.J. Spiller type situation where he has one good season and then teases us fantasy nerds for years. I could even see him rebounded in a big way in 2016, along with the whole Packers team.

Don't be shocked if he's the "value pick" darling for next year's redrafts.

he has to take conditioning seriously this offseason. He's never been ripped and has always carried a little bit of pudge, but this season, he's just fat. At some point, even for a naturally gifted athlete, you have to put a little something into it.

For the love of God, man, enough of the "he's fat" stuff. He could weigh a buck 80 or 400 and it wouldn't matter. When your coach has his head so far up his ### that he won't put you on the field, you aren't going to get production. Anyone with eyeballs and a sense of what the NFL is can clearly see that there is SOME reason why the HC is thinking/mot thinking/over thinking and it is painfully obvious.

When a guy that literally put the uniform on the first time 12 hours ago gets run, that's not the banged up line, that's not "talent", that is simply opportunity of getting a play called for you. the walk-on got opps. Eddie Didn't.

Starks was exclusively featured for the first two series and they literally called his number on every run and all but one pass. That is just a HC being stubborn/dumb/etc. You could call it smart if it netted a result but the truth is, without a MIRACLE play, the Packers would have lost their season last night.

The problem isn't that Lacy isn't built like Gronk. THe problem is the coaches feel they are smart/talented enough to do it any way they want and they are wrong. They probably lost the Bears game for "sending Lacy a message" last week and they should have lose this one. For whatever reason, its ok to exile Lacy when he's not perfect but when Starks does it, it's ok. Whatever is going on in Green Bay, I am 90% certain it could be hardily corrected if some of these idiots would check their egos.

well his productivity has gotten worse and worse as he's gotten fatter. If you want to dismiss the link, that's your choice. There's a reason professional athletes do weightlifting and conditioning. It helps.

You have absolutely no way to correlate the two into anything meaningful. The only thing we know as fact is he's always been a big back and he's been very productive for two years (even when people said he was too fat before....they were wrong). You act as if no other Running back in the history of the league has ever played three straight years and not had a down turn at some point in one due to injuries, coaching, or whatever.

It is lazy to just say you think he looks heavier and that is the sole reason for all the woes. You don't know his weight. You don't know his weight last year. And you (and when I say you I'm not meaning to make this directed at YOU..I am speaking in general for all of us speculating this) don't see anyone talking about ALL the other obvious things going on. Anyone looking can see that the plays aren''t being called the same. The player groups aren't the same. Rodgers, Cobb, the whole lot aren't performing ANYWHERE like they have or we expect. If Lacy has devolved 50%, Rodgers has at least 40%. It's as bad all around but nobody is saying Rodgers is eating too much or not getting enough sleep or not studying enough, etc. The only player everyone seems to be wanting to scape goat here is Eddie and its not the right call.

he's not as good as he was the previous years. Maybe it's the weight. Maybe it's the ankle. Maybe it's the ankle because of the weight. Who knows? All I know is that he used to look better than Starks and this year he doesn't. My guess is that he's lost some quickness. You can connect the dots as to why that might be.

 

[DocHolliday]

The Oline really struggled last night due to all the injuries. Lacy has gained weight too. That is not helping. If he loses at least 10 pounds, he could be a great back again.

 

[NoMercy]

Sorry guys, it's my fault he was awful, I started him last night for the first time in like 2 months.

And to top it off, I went up against Richard freakin Rodgers to start my must-win week 13.

Thanks to Fat Eddie I'm down 31-1 going into Sunday.

#cursed

I feel your pain. I am in the same situation in one league (at least I clinched the playoffs no matter the outcome this week...but need to win for #1 seed). For two other leagues, my opponents started Cobb who got that cheat TD in the end zone. In yet another (this is first week of playoffs), my opponent started Lacy and Adams. If Adams did not get the TD, I would be in terrific shape but at the same time, a total of 8.25 points between Lacy and Adams saves some of the pain.

Everyone: Can we rely on Lacy through the fantasy playoffs? I may have to stick with Hillman and A. Morris...ouch.

 

[georg013]

The best part of the recycled fat jokes is that it's mostly fat middle aged men saying them.

And who better to know the truth? Take it from this middle-aged fat man, it's very hard to hit the hole when all you really want to do is sit on a couch covered in food remnants and mystery goo. Hey, where'd my belt go? Oh, never mind. Found it.

Love it!

 

[georg013]

At no point this season has Starks looked better than Lacy. If he did, he would be the clear bell cow with how "bad" Lacy has looked. He has had a few long receptions and a few good runs. Yes. I own Starks.

 

[sho nuff]

Per Jason Wilde McCarthy said thwre was some sort of incident with Lacy this past week. Probably during closed practuce or something.

Non injury related

 

[sho nuff]

At no point this season has Starks looked better than Lacy. If he did, he would be the clear bell cow with how "bad" Lacy has looked. He has had a few long receptions and a few good runs. Yes. I own Starks.

He has looked much better as far as screen passes.

 

[Grahamburn]

I'm going to have a salad for lunch today to honor Eddie Lacy.

 

[MattFancy]

Eddie Lacy: I don’t know where I stand on offense

 

[Soulfly3]

Per Jason Wilde McCarthy said thwre was some sort of incident with Lacy this past week.

He mistook McCarthy's arm for a ham hock?

 

[Godsbrother]

Eddie Lacy: I don’t know where I stand on offense

I do... on the sideline.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Im curious where he goes in redraft next year.

 

[Spike]

Per Jason Wilde McCarthy said thwre was some sort of incident with Lacy this past week. Probably during closed practuce or something.

Non injury related

Would have been nice to know that BEFORE last night.

 

[DocHolliday]

Im curious where he goes in redraft next year.

That depends on if he goes on a diet.

 

[dirtyjay]

These fat jokes remind me of elementary school when kids would try to say dumb jokes to get attention.

 

[dirtyjay]

Per Jason Wilde McCarthy said thwre was some sort of incident with Lacy this past week. Probably during closed practuce or something.

Non injury related

Would have been nice to know that BEFORE last night.

Was it an incident that should have kept the best RB on the team off the field?

Again, what is it with ego driven coaches to try to punish athletes like it is moral school?

 

[matttyl]

Who do you trust more rest of season - Lacy, Ivory, or Forte? Asking for a friend...

 

[tone1oc]

These fat jokes remind me of elementary school when kids would try to say dumb jokes to get attention.

All the cool kids are doing it.

 

[DocHolliday]

Im curious where he goes in redraft next year.

That depends on if he goes on a diet.

Let me be clear. I am not joking. If he loses some weight, I would draft him in the first round. As this season proves, he cannot play in the NFL being overweight.

 

[JuniorNB]

Im curious where he goes in redraft next year.

That depends on if he goes on a diet.

Let me be clear. I am not joking. If he loses some weight, I would draft him in the first round. As this season proves, he cannot play in the NFL being overweight.

Not sure why this isn't obvious to everyone.

 

[tone1oc]

Im curious where he goes in redraft next year.

That depends on if he goes on a diet.

Let me be clear. I am not joking. If he loses some weight, I would draft him in the first round. As this season proves, he cannot play in the NFL being overweight.

How do you explain the previous two weeks at the same weight?

 

[monk]

He sucks.

Many guys do well when they are behind by 20 getting only 5 carries all game and a back up OLine.

Back to back 100 yard games and then this mess.

He sucks though because you are upset he didnt produce for your fantasy team tonight. Seems fair.

He didnt even start the game, why do coaches feel the need to punish player, you normally hurt the entire team when you do that.

Starting the game with 3 runs to Starks is not working.

Whats worse is they keep putting in Starks who is failing worse then Lacy but they keep going back to him.

Starks had a horrible fumble inside the 5 and was back in the next drive and inside the redzone

If that had been Lacy he would have been placed on IR with groin and ankle injuries

 

[Warrior]

He sucks.

Many guys do well when they are behind by 20 getting only 5 carries all game and a back up OLine.

Back to back 100 yard games and then this mess.

He sucks though because you are upset he didnt produce for your fantasy team tonight. Seems fair.

He didnt even start the game, why do coaches feel the need to punish player, you normally hurt the entire team when you do that.

Starting the game with 3 runs to Starks is not working.

Whats worse is they keep putting in Starks who is failing worse then Lacy but they keep going back to him.

Starks had a horrible fumble inside the 5 and was back in the next drive and inside the redzone

If that had been Lacy he would have been placed on IR with groin and ankle injuries

Lacy doesn't get carries because he sucks, not the other way around.

Benching this fat lazy bum for the rest of the season.

 

[shady inc]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 4m4 minutes ago
Packers worked out two former Broncos today, RB Montee Ball and QB Zac Dysert, per source.

 

[MattFancy]

I don't know what he did but he really pissed off McCarthy

 

[mrfrood]

I don't know what he did but he really pissed off McCarthy

He probably out ate him in a pie eating contest. There can only be one true fat man on the team.

 

[tone1oc]

I don't know what he did but he really pissed off McCarthy

He probably out ate him in a pie eating contest. There can only be one true fat man on the team.

Per Jason Wilde McCarthy said thwre was some sort of incident with Lacy this past week.

He mistook McCarthy's arm for a ham hock?

So clever and funny. Amazing content.

 

[JHuber77]

I don't know what he did but he really pissed off McCarthy

Apparently he missed curfew.

 

[meanjoegreen]

It is being reported Lacy and Alonzo Harris missed curfew Wednesday night. Harris was cut.

 

[kOOk]

The best excuses a few months back were how the cold weather would make it all better. If I wasn't so Lacy I'd go bump some.

 

[Faust]

Eddie Lacy disciplined for curfew violation in Week 13

 

[monk]

Think about every player you could have had where you (me too) drafted Lacy.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

Think about every player you could have had where you (me too) drafted Lacy, Bell, Luck , Charles, Murray, Anderson, Dez, Lynch, Hill (all 1st rounder in my league)

 

[georg013]

Hey everyone! Look at me! Lacy is fat! Lacy sucks! Lacy is a bum! Yet somehow I find myself in his thread just to tell you that!

 

[Buffaloes]

this guy got his favorite breakfast in my lineup this week

a doughnut.... hahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaahahahah

 

[georg013]

this guy got his favorite breakfast in my lineup this week

a doughnut.... hahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaahahahah

Teeheeheehee!

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

I was fortunate to avoid the Lacy land mine this week because Detroit's been deadly vs the run the last month but I'm definitely concerned going forward. It seems to me the weight is a secondary issue or more likely a symptom with the coaches to his overly casual approach to Football and is reflected in his preparation this week even prior to the curfew incident. Lacy needs a big time attitude adjustment and frankly I'm not sure that's even possible given his casual nature that he seems to approach life with. I just don't know if he'll ever be that hard as nails guy with regard to his attitude about the game and his approach to it and the coaches might be losing their patience with him because of it.

 

[Indy Speedway]

I was fortunate to avoid the Lacy land mine this week because Detroit's been deadly vs the run the last month but I'm definitely concerned going forward. It seems to me the weight is a secondary issue or more likely a symptom with the coaches to his overly casual approach to Football and is reflected in his preparation this week even prior to the curfew incident. Lacy needs a big time attitude adjustment and frankly I'm not sure that's even possible given his casual nature that he seems to approach life with. I just don't know if he'll ever be that hard as nails guy with regard to his attitude about the game and his approach to it and the coaches might be losing their patience with him because of it.

I am troubled by this also. I just cannot reconcile this casual attitude with the way he runs, which is very aggressive...I keep holding out hope that he will pull a Le'Veon Bell and show up at next year's camp in the best shape of his life, but I really doubt it

 

[QuizGuy66]

i had a couple Wendy's late night pickup window lines ready to go but I see such takes are now too hot for this thread.

-QG

 

[Thunderlips]

Im curious where he goes in redraft next year.

That's a ways off...and there are a number of factors that could play into it (who else do they sign...do they let him go...etc.etc.) But, if he's with the Packers, I think you'll get a couple of stories out of camp (maybe lip service...maybe truth) that will be something like:

1) Lacy has worked hard in the offseason...came into camp in his best shape since freshman year college etc. etc.

2) With the Pack struggling at times on O last season...the HC has made a commitment to shorten games and rely on the run.

If that happens.....I don't see why he's not mid/late 2nd to mid/late 3rd. I think there'll be a certain percentage of FFers who will shy away from him...just because he burned them this past year.....but.. if the aforementioned stories come true......he'll get it back on track.

 

[monk]

Im curious where he goes in redraft next year.

That depends on if he goes on a diet.

Let me be clear. I am not joking. If he loses some weight, I would draft him in the first round. As this season proves, he cannot play in the NFL being overweight.

Not sure why this isn't obvious to everyone.

Maybe it's because when he "Plays" he is very productive.

Lacy has had 4 games in which he has received more than 13 carries this season and this is what he has done in those games

19 for 85 with a TD (4.47 yds per carry)

18 for 90 (5.0 yds per carry)

22 for 100 (4.55 per carry)

17 for 105 (6.18) 4 rep fro 35 yds and a TD

That's 5 yards per carry ... pretty good for a guy that cant play in the NFL

Hard to be productive @ any weight with 3 , 4, 5 & 5 carries in a game.

 

[monk]

i had a couple Wendy's late night pickup window lines ready to go but I see such takes are now too hot for this thread.

-QG

You should be doing much bigger venues than this anyway.

I mean you're good ...real good! And I'm not just saying that!

 

[tone1oc]

Maybe it's because when he "Plays" he is very productive.

Lacy has had 4 games in which he has received more than 13 carries this season and this is what he has done in those games

19 for 85 with a TD (4.47 yds per carry)

18 for 90 (5.0 yds per carry)

22 for 100 (4.55 per carry)

17 for 105 (6.18) 4 rep fro 35 yds and a TD

That's 5 yards per carry ... pretty good for a guy that cant play in the NFL

Hard to be productive @ any weight with 3 , 4, 5 & 5 carries in a game.

 

[QuizGuy66]

i had a couple Wendy's late night pickup window lines ready to go but I see such takes are now too hot for this thread.

-QG

You should be doing much bigger venues than this anyway.

I mean you're good ...real good! And I'm not just saying that!

Anyway we laugh so that we don't cry as this guy has laid waste to many fantasy teams this year.

Folks are talking in terms of next year - he'll be like a 3rd-round maybe even 4th round pick. The coaching staff isn't going anywhere and it's clear they've lost faith in him. Someone will probably take a crack at him after most of the good backs have been picked over. Personally after this year he's a DND for me.

-QG

 

[Thunderlips]

i had a couple Wendy's late night pickup window lines ready to go but I see such takes are now too hot for this thread.

-QG

You should be doing much bigger venues than this anyway.

I mean you're good ...real good! And I'm not just saying that!

Anyway we laugh so that we don't cry as this guy has laid waste to many fantasy teams this year.

Folks are talking in terms of next year - he'll be like a 3rd-round maybe even 4th round pick. The coaching staff isn't going anywhere and it's clear they've lost faith in him. Someone will probably take a crack at him after most of the good backs have been picked over. Personally after this year he's a DND for me.

-QG

If he's there in the fourth.....to me, that's nothing but upside...especially if I''ve already drafted two RBs and a WR. If he's ADPing in the fourth across most of the big sites (YAHOO/ESPN)....I might even go Gronk, WR and WR and take him as my first RB.

As far as the coaching goes....he's either going into next year not on the team or out of the doghouse. No way they keep him around if he's not their guy.

 

[Meatwad Reloaded]

Bust of the year. Many a fantasy season died on Thursday. There were many in redraft who took him 1 .1 to 1.5.

 

[georg013]

Bust of the year. Many a fantasy season died on Thursday. There were many in redraft who took him 1 .1 to 1.5.

Dez Bryant is my bust of the year.