I sold him + white for Chris Johnson during the week 8 bye. He did well last game but I still think there's a big enough difference between him and CJ to make me feel comfortable with it. Anyone valuing him lower than RB10 is undervaluing him but I wouldn't say he's RB8 or higher. Still a lot of better RBs than him.
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Anyone selling high or buying low on Ray Rice? (1 Viewer)
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solorca
Footballguy
Is that Roddy White? If you sold Roddy White and Ray Rice for Chris Johnson, I think you overpaid by a significant amount.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Blair or Roddy?
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Or Betty?
nysportsfan
Footballguy
Roddy White. But my league format is different from yours and my team makeup allowed me to trade 2 for 1 and still come out ahead assuming that CJ is better than Rice going forward. In general, however, I agree. It is a high price to pay.
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CrossEyed
Footballguy
Can't think of a format where this would be the case.Roddy White. But my league format is different from yours and my team makeup allowed me to trade 2 for 1 and still come out ahead assuming that CJ is better than Rice going forward. In general, however, I agree. It is a high price to pay.
OrangeCurtain
Footballguy
Points for non-WR catches maybe. To me it's more about the second part (team makeup allowed). I traded away Arian Foster for Roddy White earlier in the year, and while I'd make the argument that my trade was more even, I was able to trade away Foster because I still had Addai, Bradshaw, McCoy and Rice, but needed a second WR behind Nicks.Can't think of a format where this would be the case.Roddy White. But my league format is different from yours and my team makeup allowed me to trade 2 for 1 and still come out ahead assuming that CJ is better than Rice going forward. In general, however, I agree. It is a high price to pay.
I play in a league where you start 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, and 3 Offensive Flex. In this kind of format, I could understand the thinking behind trading White + Rice for Johnson, provided you had enough top level RB's to fill all 3 flex spots and had a receiver like Calvin, Fitz, Nicks, etc... on your bench to fill the void White would leave in your 1 WR slot.That being said, even in a league such as this, I would absolutely not trade White + Rice for Johnson. I'm not sold that Johnson is going to outproduce Rice by all that much over the 2nd half of the season and definitely don't think he will outproduce him by enough to warrent throwing Roddy White into the dealCan't think of a format where this would be the case.Roddy White. But my league format is different from yours and my team makeup allowed me to trade 2 for 1 and still come out ahead assuming that CJ is better than Rice going forward. In general, however, I agree. It is a high price to pay.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
I'm going after him in non-ppr.
HustleBlood
Footballguy
i gave up ray ray and marshall while back and havent looked back.
Oct 6 9:09pm
Ray Rice (Bal - RB)
Brandon Marshall (Mia - WR)
Trade
Adrian Peterson (Min - RB)
other trades this week
gave up roddy best keller for mwilli south mccoy tamme
gave up AJ torain for mccoy
last week gave up mike x blount beanie for mccoy maclin
all different leagues but all ppr leagues
Oct 6 9:09pm
Ray Rice (Bal - RB)
Brandon Marshall (Mia - WR)
Trade
Adrian Peterson (Min - RB)
other trades this week
gave up roddy best keller for mwilli south mccoy tamme
gave up AJ torain for mccoy
last week gave up mike x blount beanie for mccoy maclin
all different leagues but all ppr leagues
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I traded Bradshaw and BJGE for Rice and Witten.
IMO Rice = Bradshaw and I wanted a reliable TE after losing Finley. But I could see some people saying I bought low on Rice/sold high on Bradshaw. Most of my league was semi against the trade. But I'm really not sure I came out ahead in terms of pure value.
IMO Rice = Bradshaw and I wanted a reliable TE after losing Finley. But I could see some people saying I bought low on Rice/sold high on Bradshaw. Most of my league was semi against the trade. But I'm really not sure I came out ahead in terms of pure value.
Yeah, that's it. Honestly, maximizing the value you get from a trade is one thing and making your team better can be something entirely different. If you are in a team that trades a lot then you can worry about maximizing your value but in a league where people hardly trade, I often find the need to give more than I get. Now the choice was between not trading, starting Rice all year as my RB2 in a committee with Best and Matthew while someone like Calvin Johnson rides on my bench or trading Rice up for someone I can start with confidence every week. You don't get points for your bench guys and Rice has not been automatic this year and he still only has two TDs. So yeah, that and being in a situation where I have to win every game to make it to playoffs made it a necessary choice. Plus, my league awards points for carries and yardage milestone bonus points. By my calculations, I would have net more points per week because the difference between Roddy and Calvin was less than the difference between Chris Johnson and Rice. In the end, winning games is more important than winning a trade. We'll see how it pans out in the end but I was killing my lineup by leaving points on the bench each week so that alone was a big help.
Well, that took a leap of faith I wasn't ready to make. Rice had performed poorly over 7 games having only 2 good ones and despite that only had 2 TDs and only one game over 100 yards rushing. The passing game leaned more toward Boldin with sometimes Rice getting a lot less receptions and McGahee kept stealing TDs and carries. I couldn't tell if the two games prior to that point where he received over 20 carries and goal line touches would be the norm or the 6 other games would be. He just didn't have the track record to support his name value this year. Chris Johnson was just safer and more consistent and had a better schedule. It wasn't a great trade but it was necessary under my circumstances given I couldn't afford a single loss if Rice flopped again. I would not have traded if I had a winning record.
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Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
I've been trying to do the same thing but no luck.
playin4beer
Footballguy
I traded McFadden for Rice....
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Whoa. No way do I make that deal as a McFadden owner. Perhaps I'm rating my guy too high?
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
I actually did the exact same deal. It's a wash, imo, with McFadden having more upside, but also more risk (injury). Basically, you are trading points later (DMC) for points now (Rice). Rice with ATL, CAR and TB on deck while DMC is on a bye and then at PITT. But DMC's got DEN and IND at home W15/16. If you are confident you'll see your Superbowl, it's DMC. But if things are still in question, Rice is the play here.
playin4beer
Footballguy
I'm stacked in that league... every RB that i took a shot at panned out..At one time I had J. Charles, L. McCoy, D.McFadden, J.Best, and R.Torrain...The ADP owner had ADP and nobody else... I packaged Charles, McCoy and Vick for ADP.So after the McFadden trade, I'm starting ADP and R.Rice and my #1, and #2 RB's...A.Johnson, M.Williams (BMW) and R. Moss are my WR's.. Cooley and Miller my TE's.I like my chances.....
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