Are Belichick and Shanahan creating their own injury problems at RB? (1 Viewer)

[MarcO]

by rotating 3-4 backs in and out of the game at all times? They both seem to go into a game with the clear intention of getting a guy out there for 5-10 carries mixed throughout the game. It just makes me wonder if it has led to the rash of injuries at the RB position for both teams...

just wondering

 

[David Yudkin]

I'd love to hear how having 5 backs versus 1 back translates into more injuries.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Meh.

It is not like these RBs are not practicing as much or staying in great shape because of their decreased workload or anything. It is just bad luck that has struck the backfield of both teams.

 

[-baller]

I'd love to hear how having 5 backs versus 1 back translates into more injuries.

it means 5x as many backs can get injured.can't get injured sittin' on the bench.

 

[packersfan]

Sammy Morris was the clear primary RB the week he got hurt.

Ryan Torain was the clear primary RB last night when he got hurt.

In both of those cases, the Patriots and Broncos wanted to go with one RB and that RB got hurt. As much as I find Belichick's and Shanahan's subterfuge silly and unnecessary, I can't see how either one of them can be blamed in these two instances. Both times they wanted to go with one RB and both times that RB got hurt.

 

[hostile]

I've heard the argument before that its doesnt allow players to get into the rhythm of a game, which may or may not contribute to injuries (going cold sitting on the pine).

 

[perry147]

Sammy Morris was the clear primary RB the week he got hurt.Ryan Torain was the clear primary RB last night when he got hurt.In both of those cases, the Patriots and Broncos wanted to go with one RB and that RB got hurt. As much as I find Belichick's and Shanahan's subterfuge silly and unnecessary, I can't see how either one of them can be blamed in these two instances. Both times they wanted to go with one RB and both times that RB got hurt.

Moreover Shanahan loves to play the hot hand and will give a RB additional carries if his game time performance earns it.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Sammy Morris was the clear primary RB the week he got hurt.Ryan Torain was the clear primary RB last night when he got hurt.In both of those cases, the Patriots and Broncos wanted to go with one RB and that RB got hurt. As much as I find Belichick's and Shanahan's subterfuge silly and unnecessary, I can't see how either one of them can be blamed in these two instances. Both times they wanted to go with one RB and both times that RB got hurt.

Moreover Shanahan loves to play the hot hand and will give a RB additional carries if his game time performance earns it.

Shanahan thinks he's smarter than he really is. I'm laughing at him right now, even if it is bad luck.

 

[PatrickT]

I'd love to hear how having 5 backs versus 1 back translates into more injuries.

umm, yeah, the whole concept is to minimize injury by rotating backs. I'm with you on this one, DY.

 

[-baller]

I've heard the argument before that its doesnt allow players to get into the rhythm of a game, which may or may not contribute to injuries (going cold sitting on the pine).

what stops the primary back from getting hurt while they're getting into the rhythm of the game --- the idea in his head that he'll be getting his 20th carry in the 4th quarter?I just assumed this was a joke thread.

 

[BigJim®]

I'd love to hear how having 5 backs versus 1 back translates into more injuries.

Would you agree driving 60 miles in town causes more engine problems vs. 600 highway miles? I think the OP is making a similar analogy; that all that cold starting and stopping increases the likelihood that a body will falter. Not saying I agree with it, but I'm inferring that as the theory.

 

[-baller]

I'd love to hear how having 5 backs versus 1 back translates into more injuries.

Would you agree driving 60 miles in town causes more engine problems vs. 600 highway miles? I think the OP is making a similar analogy; that all that cold starting and stopping increases the likelihood that a body will falter. Not saying I agree with it, but I'm inferring that as the theory.

what cold stopping and starting was torain doing when he got hurt?

 

[TommyGilmore]

I'd love to hear how having 5 backs versus 1 back translates into more injuries.

it means 5x as many backs can get injured.can't get injured sittin' on the bench.

If you only have 1 RB and that RB gets injured, then one of the backs on the bench will have to play anyway. So it's not like the guys on the bench are any safer from injury.

 

[MCguidance]

I'd love to hear how having 5 backs versus 1 back translates into more injuries.

Would you agree driving 60 miles in town causes more engine problems vs. 600 highway miles? I think the OP is making a similar analogy; that all that cold starting and stopping increases the likelihood that a body will falter. Not saying I agree with it, but I'm inferring that as the theory.

what cold stopping and starting was torain doing when he got hurt?

I don't think has anything to do with ligament tears but more of muscle pulls - hammy pull or quad pull from getting cold on sideline. Not agreeing with OP but this is why they have stationary bikes on the sideline.

 

[two_dollars]

I do think that too many RB's in a RBBC can be detrimental and invite more injuries. I think 2 backs is a good number. More than that and you got guys on the sidelines, not staying loose, getting stiff, cooling off.. not to say it's the cause of blown knees, but I would expect to see more pulls and strains with too many RB cooks in the RBBC kitchen.

 

[MarcO]

Sammy Morris was the clear primary RB the week he got hurt.Ryan Torain was the clear primary RB last night when he got hurt.In both of those cases, the Patriots and Broncos wanted to go with one RB and that RB got hurt. As much as I find Belichick's and Shanahan's subterfuge silly and unnecessary, I can't see how either one of them can be blamed in these two instances. Both times they wanted to go with one RB and both times that RB got hurt.

yeah but it could be argued that neither Torain or Morris were prepared to be the primary RB and were thrust into the role because of injuries.

 

[[scooter]]

yeah but it could be argued that neither Torain or Morris were prepared to be the primary RB and were thrust into the role because of injuries.

Which would completely contradict the point of the original post (i.e., RBs are more likely to get injured when they're constantly rotating with 3-4 other RBs).

 

[moleculo]

Sammy Morris was the clear primary RB the week he got hurt.Ryan Torain was the clear primary RB last night when he got hurt.In both of those cases, the Patriots and Broncos wanted to go with one RB and that RB got hurt. As much as I find Belichick's and Shanahan's subterfuge silly and unnecessary, I can't see how either one of them can be blamed in these two instances. Both times they wanted to go with one RB and both times that RB got hurt.

yeah but it could be argued that neither Torain or Morris were prepared to be the primary RB and were thrust into the role because of injuries.

Torain has had about two months to get ready to be the primary RB - certainly he had all of last week.

 

[footballnerd]

If you saw the way Torrain's knee was sticking out of the bottom of that pile when he go hurt, you'd know its not a matter of being warmed up or not.

 

[FavreCo]

If you saw the way Torrain's knee was sticking out of the bottom of that pile when he go hurt, you'd know its not a matter of being warmed up or not.

Yeah that was trouble.

 

[biggyd]

If your theory is accurate, then I presume that there will be an increase in injury to D-lineman, LBs, and D-backs, because they rotate players in for 5-10 plays a game.

Do you think Belichick and Shananhan are responsible for the economic crisis?

 

[Ghost Rider]

If your theory is accurate, then I presume that there will be an increase in injury to D-lineman, LBs, and D-backs, because they rotate players in for 5-10 plays a game. Do you think Belichick and Shananhan are responsible for the economic crisis?

Had this been asked a year ago at this time, in regards to Belichick alone, it is estimated that 65% of those in the Shark Pool would have said yes.

 

[JKL]

by rotating 3-4 backs in and out of the game at all times? They both seem to go into a game with the clear intention of getting a guy out there for 5-10 carries mixed throughout the game. It just makes me wonder if it has led to the rash of injuries at the RB position for both teams... just wondering

The short answer: No.