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Are the Dirty Birds playing dirty? (1 Viewer)

valhallan

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For the past few seasons I've noticed instances of Falcons laying cheapshots, cutblocking, or doing other somewhat shady things in ballgames. This week Deangelo Hall gave Jon Kitna a solid forearm to the helmet that looked a bit unnecessary.

During an interview on Sirius NFL Radio, Jim Mora was asked by the hosts about that shot and if he said anything to Deangelo about it. He basically shrugged off the question and said, "I didn't say anything to him about it. It's part of the game."

Has anyone else noticed dirty play from the Falcons? I apologize for not having more concrete examples. it seems to me this has been brought up before, but I couldn't find a discussion here.

 
For the past few seasons I've noticed instances of Falcons laying cheapshots, cutblocking, or doing other somewhat shady things in ballgames. This week Deangelo Hall gave Jon Kitna a solid forearm to the helmet that looked a bit unnecessary. During an interview on Sirius NFL Radio, Jim Mora was asked by the hosts about that shot and if he said anything to Deangelo about it. He basically shrugged off the question and said, "I didn't say anything to him about it. It's part of the game."Has anyone else noticed dirty play from the Falcons? I apologize for not having more concrete examples. it seems to me this has been brought up before, but I couldn't find a discussion here.
Compared to the nut shot last night? Or the facial given by Haynesworth? The Falcons seem rather tame....
 
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Dominic Raiola thinks so....

Lions still ticked off about Hall's cheap shot on Kitna

Tuesday, November 07, 2006

By Tom Kowalski

ALLEN PARK -- The Detroit Lions are tired of getting pushed around and they're going to do something about it.

There were some signs of that during Sunday's 30-14 victory against the Atlanta Falcons, from the way running back Kevin Jones punished defenders to quarterback Jon Kitna fighting back after a cheap shot.



Lions center Dominic Raiola ratcheted it up a little on Monday when he promised retribution against Atlanta cornerback DeAngelo Hall, the player who was penalized for the late hit on Kitna.

"If he's on the field, I'm going to get him. I promise you. I promise you," Raiola said. "That's cheap. That's cheap, man. He's done that two weeks in a row now -- try to hurt somebody."

Jones, who roomed with Hall for one year when they played together at Virginia Tech, said the Lions had watched film of certain Atlanta players in previous weeks and were on the lookout for cheap shots.

"I like to call him (Hall) a cheap-shot artist because he tried to hurt, I think it was (Cincinnati Bengals running back) Rudi Johnson last week. Somebody held him up, and he took a shot at him at the back of his knee," Raiola said. "If he thinks that's football, he's got another thing coming because I'm going to see him again."

The play that sparked Raiola's anger was a 17-yard scramble by Kitna who, after beginning his slide to the ground, was hit in the side of the head by Hall's forearm. Linebacker Michael Boley was also in on the tackle and Kitna, not knowing who hit him in the head, started scuffling with Boley.

Hall, who was penalized 15 yards for unnecessary roughness on the play, will likely be fined by the league for a blow to the head.

"They'll fine him for that, for sure," Raiola said. "Because when Kit went after Boley, DeAngelo Hall came after Kit in the back of his head . . . When I think about that, I get fired up. They try to protect quarterbacks, and then they take a shot like that at him. All Kit was doing was standing up for himself, you know? He was in a defenseless position. DeAngelo came with an elbow in the back of his head."

Several of Kitna's teammates said they were fired up after the skirmish.

"Oh man, that was huge," said Lions defensive tackle Cory Redding. "I record the game every week myself . . . I got a chance to watch that, and man, I rewound that like 10 times.

"Just seeing him (Kitna) get up, not even hit the guy who hit him, but just saw another color (jersey) and went at him. That's temporary insanity, you know. That guy just went after him. That's what you want to see. I would have that guy in my foxhole any day. Just get up and go after somebody, you don't see that out of quarterbacks."

After promising to get even with Hall, Raiola said he was ready to put the matter behind him. Well, almost.



"That's behind us now," he said. "They probably think that game's behind them. We've got bigger and better things to worry about. I promise you, if I see him on the field again, I'll try and take his head off. I'm serious. That's all I've got to say about that."

Raiola said he wasn't worried about his words getting back to the Falcons.

"I don't care. Go ahead and put them up in their locker room. I could care less," said Raiola, adding that he isn't worried about Hall either. "DeAngelo Hall? That's the least of my worries."
 
Yes the Falcons are a undisciplined team. Which is why I don't think they will ever win big under Mora, unless some veteran players take charge.

 
Cut blocking is legal.
The cut blocking is all I have ever noticed and until the NFL changes the rules the cut blocking will continue.
I know John Fox and several other coaches have complained to the league about the Falcons cut blocking, but the league still hasn't changed the rule of it. I guess a player will have to get maimed for it to stop. Mora doesn't care. I've noticed in games where the Falcons do malicious hitting and get calls for it, Mora doesn't even flinch. Mora has always come across to me as someone who is a buddy to his players, more than a coach to his players.
 
I still remember the incident at the start of last season with the Eagles where they got Trotter kicked out of the game

 
Anyone got a link to video of the dirty hit on Kitna? I missed it (was watching game but musta flipped away during that play).

 
Hall responds to Raiola....what a class act! :lmao:

NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA: Lil' birdie picks fight with Lion

Falcons CB Hall tells Raiola to 'come see me'

November 10, 2006

Email this Print this BY NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA

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If Dominic Raiola wants to rumble, DeAngelo Hall is ready for him.



Hall gave his actual address and phone number to a reporter from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Thursday, then responded to Raiola's recent threats. (We have left out Hall's info and some expletives for obvious reasons.)



"If he wants to see me, that's the address, that's the phone number," Hall told the AJC. "He can come see me. This goes way beyond football. I don't know who the hell he thinks he's talking to, but that's my address, that's my phone number. Make sure he gets it, and tell him to come and see me."

Hall, the Atlanta Falcons' Pro Bowl cornerback, hit Lions quarterback Jon Kitna on the left side of the head as Kitna was sliding Sunday. After Kitna pounced on Atlanta linebacker Michael Boley, Hall hit Kitna in the back of the head and knocked off his helmet.

Raiola, the Lions' starting center, ripped into Hall on Monday, calling him a "cheap-shot artist." He said if he saw Hall again, he would "try to take his head off."

Hall claims everything is cool with Kitna.

"Me and Kitna had a nice talk, and he understood the situation on the play and everything," Hall told the AJC.

But that's hard to believe. Kitna hasn't said anything like that. In fact, he said the Lions saw on film that Hall tried to hurt people. The NFL is expected to fine Hall today.

And anyway, this is between Hall and Raiola now.



"I ain't said two words to this chump," Hall told the AJC. "If he wants to see me, he can come see me -- and tell him to bring his homeboys with him."
 
1st and 10, ball on ATL 41

Last Play: 2-9-CLE 48(15:00) M.Vick pass short right INTERCEPTED by S.Jones at CLV 35. S.Jones to CLV 44 for 9 yards (F.McCrary). PENALTY on ATL-P.Alexander, Chop Block, 15 yards, enforced at CLV 44.

 
1st and 10, ball on ATL 41

Last Play: 2-9-CLE 48(15:00) M.Vick pass short right INTERCEPTED by S.Jones at CLV 35. S.Jones to CLV 44 for 9 yards (F.McCrary). PENALTY on ATL-P.Alexander, Chop Block, 15 yards, enforced at CLV 44.
Shocker!
 
13:36) (Shotgun) D.Brees pass deep middle to D.Henderson for 76 yards, TOUCHDOWN. PENALTY on ATL-D.Hall, Personal Foul, 15 yards, enforced between downs. Penalty assessed on KO.
Aw, poor baby got burned for 76 yards and had to horsecollar the receiver in the endzone.DeAngelo Hall = Tool

 
I think cut-blocking is on its way out. When your lineman have to practice on dummies for fear of injuring your own defensive players there is something seriously wrong. I know the NFL has been discussing it the past few years.

 
That horsecollar tackle in the endzone was completely uncalled for. I hope that Hall gets a nice big fine on that one. :thumbdown:
If it had happened against a team like the Eagles, Colts, or Cowboys, there most certainly would be a fine coming. But it's the Saints, so I doubt it will get as much press.
 
That horsecollar tackle in the endzone was completely uncalled for. I hope that Hall gets a nice big fine on that one. :thumbdown:
:goodposting: I've long thought they should throw more flags for hits in the end zone. Defenders need time to lay off their hit but each week there are blatant late hits after clear TDs that are let go by the refs. An illegal tackle deep in the end zone had BETTER be fine material.
 

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