Arian Foster sued for harassing woman to have an abortion (1 Viewer)

[Pots]

Both are to blame here.

Foster is a married man, with children. If it's proven to be his child, and there is a 99.99 % chance supposedly that it's his, then he's a POS, and he deserves any and all negativity that comes from this.

Maybe Foster and his wife had an arrangement. If that's the case, he couldn't be a POS for getting some strange. Can't judge Foster yet.

I'll give you that as a possibility ....if you agree that it's highly unlikely.

My key word is IF as well.

It's not a possibility if he doesn't agree it's unlikely?

 

[tikigods]

Makes sense now...the trade proposal I received today. A guy in our keeper league just offered me Foster and AJ Green for Zac Stacy and CJ Spiller.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Makes sense now...the trade proposal I received today. A guy in our keeper league just offered me Foster and AJ Green for Zac Stacy and CJ Spiller.

 

[domvin]

Both are to blame here.

Foster is a married man, with children. If it's proven to be his child, and there is a 99.99 % chance supposedly that it's his, then he's a POS, and he deserves any and all negativity that comes from this.

Maybe Foster and his wife had an arrangement. If that's the case, he couldn't be a POS for getting some strange. Can't judge Foster yet.

I'll give you that as a possibility ....if you agree that it's highly unlikely.

My key word is IF as well.

It's not a possibility if he doesn't agree it's unlikely?

Its possible that jacksonville will win the super bowl...though its highly unlikely. Spoon, baby food. Enjoy

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Both are to blame here.

Foster is a married man, with children. If it's proven to be his child, and there is a 99.99 % chance supposedly that it's his, then he's a POS, and he deserves any and all negativity that comes from this.

Maybe Foster and his wife had an arrangement. If that's the case, he couldn't be a POS for getting some strange. Can't judge Foster yet.

I'll give you that as a possibility ....if you agree that it's highly unlikely.

My key word is IF as well.

It's not a possibility if he doesn't agree it's unlikely?

I never realized I held that much power!!

Yeah, it's unlikely. But I bet these arrangements are more common with athlete marriages than typical ones.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Both are to blame here.

Foster is a married man, with children. If it's proven to be his child, and there is a 99.99 % chance supposedly that it's his, then he's a POS, and he deserves any and all negativity that comes from this.

Maybe Foster and his wife had an arrangement. If that's the case, he couldn't be a POS for getting some strange. Can't judge Foster yet.

I'll give you that as a possibility ....if you agree that it's highly unlikely.

My key word is IF as well.

It's not a possibility if he doesn't agree it's unlikely?

Its possible that jacksonville will win the super bowl...though its highly unlikely. Spoon, baby food. Enjoy

He was just having fun with your syntax.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Some professional athlete got a chick preggo, that he didn't want to get preggo.

In other news, it's cold in Siberia.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

What's Foster realistically on the hook for here? $50K per year for 18 years plus $1 million in a trust fund for when the kid turns 18? Roughly $1.9 - $2 million total? Any divorce lawyer guys in the know about a deal like this?

 

[domvin]

Both are to blame here.

Foster is a married man, with children. If it's proven to be his child, and there is a 99.99 % chance supposedly that it's his, then he's a POS, and he deserves any and all negativity that comes from this.

Maybe Foster and his wife had an arrangement. If that's the case, he couldn't be a POS for getting some strange. Can't judge Foster yet.

I'll give you that as a possibility ....if you agree that it's highly unlikely.

My key word is IF as well.

It's not a possibility if he doesn't agree it's unlikely?

Its possible that jacksonville will win the super bowl...though its highly unlikely. Spoon, baby food. Enjoy

He was just having fun with your syntax.

Aint wrong nothing with my syntax!!

 

[zoonation]

Whatever. Tell Arian to call T.O. When he has his 5th. That's when it starts to get problematic. What a #####.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Whatever. Tell Arian to call T.O. When he has his 5th. That's when it starts to get problematic. What a #####.

He's no Calvin Murphy

 

[Max Power]

Whatever. Tell Arian to call T.O. When he has his 5th. That's when it starts to get problematic. What a #####.

He's no Calvin Murphy

I would have bet that Kemp fathered more kids than Travis Henry. Shows what I know...

 

[ghostguy123]

What's Foster realistically on the hook for here? $50K per year for 18 years plus $1 million in a trust fund for when the kid turns 18? Roughly $1.9 - $2 million total? Any divorce lawyer guys in the know about a deal like this?

No. Child support is based off your previous year earnings, not how much you have in the bank.

 

[Banger]

This pretty much happens to professional athletes all the time. You don't want a baby? Wrap it up or use a different orifice.

Not sure how anyone could side with Foster, he should have known better.

Exactly. Protection would've solved al his problems whether she's a gold digger or not. He made the choice and now he has to live with it.

 

[ghostguy123]

This pretty much happens to professional athletes all the time. You don't want a baby? Wrap it up or use a different orifice.

Not sure how anyone could side with Foster, he should have known better.

Exactly. Protection would've solved al his problems whether she's a gold digger or not. He made the choice and now he has to live with it.

Unless she was one of the gold diggers who went and dug up the used jimmy out of the trash afterwards.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

This pretty much happens to professional athletes all the time. You don't want a baby? Wrap it up or use a different orifice.

Not sure how anyone could side with Foster, he should have known better.

Exactly. Protection would've solved al his problems whether she's a gold digger or not. He made the choice and now he has to live with it.

Unless she was one of the gold diggers who went and dug up the used jimmy out of the trash afterwards.

Do you have a pet unicorn also?

 

[ghostguy123]

Do you have a pet unicorn also?

Umm, are you actually saying you don't believe that has ever happened??

 

[ghostguy123]

Just did a quick search, found this, "sperm bandits", hahahahaah. Just a small part:

Boys, flush those condoms after use! Sperm bandits have been known to try to use the sperm left inside of condoms to impregnate themselves. Even condoms that have been thrown in the trash can be retrieved for this purpose. Sperm bandits will try to have a baby at any cost, and fishing a used condom out of a dirty trash can is a small price to pay for that bouncing bundle of joy. Not only is this a gross thing to do, but it’s not exactly the ideal conception story to share with friends over a nice Chianti.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Do you have a pet unicorn also?

Umm, are you actually saying you don't believe that has ever happened??

Does your unicorn have a saddle?

 

[Brewtown]

Glad I don't own this guy in any dynasty leagues. First, back surgery and now this....

He may be done...???

Gonna be hard for his back to recover when his wife is hitting it repeatedly with a baseball bat.

Gonna be hard for him to mentally play when his whole world is crumbling...

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Do you have a pet unicorn also?

Umm, are you actually saying you don't believe that has ever happened??

Does your unicorn have a saddle?

It's also possible that this relationship was 100% platonic. She could have easily harvested some skin cells from him, converted them to iPS cells then to sperm cells and impregnated herself.

 

[ghostguy123]

Do you have a pet unicorn also?

Umm, are you actually saying you don't believe that has ever happened??

Does your unicorn have a saddle?

It's also possible that this relationship was 100% platonic. She could have easily harvested some skin cells from him, converted them to iPS cells then to sperm cells and impregnated herself.

Just for the record, I don't actually think that is what happened in this case. I was simply making a joke..................but it DOES happen.

 

[False Start]

A lot of going on in this thread. You can clearly tell there is not a lot of football to discuss this time of year.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

I dont feel any sympathy for her

Why not? No one deserves to be harassed because she wants to keep their child.

Because she got involved with a married guy and is now on TV playing it up for the cameras.....makes it easy to question her motives. I dont fault her for wanting her child now.Dont condone Foster threatening her either if thats true....once he knocked her up he lost all control of the situation. Not his finest moment....

This is pretty classless of you.

Guess youre a better man than me then....its hard for me to bite the sympathy hook watching her on TV front and center and seeing tweets referencing the Kardashians, buts thats just me.... I'm not going to respect anyone turning their personal business into a sideshow

She doesn't have to be Joan d'Arc to deserve sympathy. I think it's easy to conclude she's a golddigger. It's also easy to conclude that Foster is a philandering guy of low integrity. I think those things even out. You don't get one thing without another, after all. But to harass the woman that's carrying his child to abort it is over the line. I know why you don't see it that way. It's probably instinctual for a football fan to circle the wagons around your own players.

Because a guy was harassing her into a very controversial topic of abortion? Is everyone who sues someone a gold digger? People sue for money, it's the way to punish people civilly in our society. If this was my sister and someone harassed her into an abortion, he would need a restraining order against me, and probably need to sue me. Does that make who would be sueing me a gold digger?

I could be wrong It's a chick letting a famous athlete fire shots into her and allowing herself to get pregnant. How do you think she thought this would end up when she told Foster that she was pregnant? That he'd propose to her?

Have you ever had unprotected sex with a woman you did not marry? Dont worry if you are a man, everyone here knows the answer. How did you think it would end up, that you would marry her or were you just hoping she did not end up pregers and you did not get a STD? Point is you are calling a person you never met a gold digger because you see pictures and because she talks about the Kardashians. That is as obtuse as it gets. Judging people based off media and twitter feeds is not really the best way to evaluate someone is it?

Are you sure Foster didn't lie to her, or told her he plans to leave his wife for her, do you have that info? But you already came to the conclusion she is a Gold Digger.

I think there is merit behind your reasoning - I get where you are coming from. That said, this is an internet message board, not a court of law. Folks are more likely to just run with the most obvious explanation here, and to me, that's ok.

A 20 year old college student is banging some dude in a training camp town DURING TRAINING CAMP, and she doesn't think he might be an NFL player for the team currently going through their camp? RIIIGHT. So I think she knew who it was. She didn't claim otherwise, and it doesn't seem likely in any case. But she DID claim she didn't know he had a wife and kids. Come on. She didn't have access to the internet at all? How many keypresses would it take to find a bio on Foster? You wouldn't do that for someone you are fooling around with? Don't think I can buy that. So at the very least, she's lying about banging a man she knows is married with kids. That drops your sympathy factor a bit right there.

Then she sells the photos of them together to TMZ. That doesn't scream "I just want to be left alone." It screams gold-digger that didn't hit the mother-lode and is finding a smaller vein of ore.

So while I have no sympathy for Foster at all, I don't have a ton for her either, just because while what she says COULD be true, the odds of it don't seem too good. The only thing I know for sure she said, I don't believe. Did Foster ask her to get an abortion? Don't doubt that at all. Did he strongly insist she have one? Again, no shock there. But that's not illegal. Now if he threatened her, or had others threaten her, that's a different story. If it happened, yeah, that's something that's over the line for sure. But did it? What were the circumstances? As you say, we don't know. But what we DO know doesn't look good for her. So I'll save my sympathy for hungry kids rather than some college chick banging married training camp athletes then selling pictures of them and suing them after getting pregnant.

 

[Bayhawks]

So while I have no sympathy for Foster at all, I don't have a ton for her either, just because while what she says COULD be true, the odds of it don't seem too good. The only thing I know for sure she said, I don't believe. Did Foster ask her to get an abortion? Don't doubt that at all. Did he strongly insist she have one? Again, no shock there. But that's not illegal. Now if he threatened her, or had others threaten her, that's a different story. If it happened, yeah, that's something that's over the line for sure. But did it? What were the circumstances? As you say, we don't know. But what we DO know doesn't look good for her. So I'll save my sympathy for hungry kids rather than some college chick banging married training camp athletes then selling pictures of them and suing them after getting pregnant.

Based on the news I've read, these are the only quotes I can find of Arian or his family harassing her:

"He's like, 'You can't have this, you can't have this kid, like, we cannot bring a child into this, like, think about my kids,'" (Foster)

"You just can't bring a life into this world under these circumstances. It's not fair to anyone. It's not just about you." (Foster)

"You know, if you loved Arian at all you would have an abortion because this child is going to ruin everything. . . . Like, our whole family will never accept this child." (Foster's brother)

While I can understand how a pregnant women (whether a gold-digger or not) would want to hear these things, in my mind, they don't constitute harassment.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

So while I have no sympathy for Foster at all, I don't have a ton for her either, just because while what she says COULD be true, the odds of it don't seem too good. The only thing I know for sure she said, I don't believe. Did Foster ask her to get an abortion? Don't doubt that at all. Did he strongly insist she have one? Again, no shock there. But that's not illegal. Now if he threatened her, or had others threaten her, that's a different story. If it happened, yeah, that's something that's over the line for sure. But did it? What were the circumstances? As you say, we don't know. But what we DO know doesn't look good for her. So I'll save my sympathy for hungry kids rather than some college chick banging married training camp athletes then selling pictures of them and suing them after getting pregnant.

Based on the news I've read, these are the only quotes I can find of Arian or his family harassing her:

"He's like, 'You can't have this, you can't have this kid, like, we cannot bring a child into this, like, think about my kids,'" (Foster)

"You just can't bring a life into this world under these circumstances. It's not fair to anyone. It's not just about you." (Foster)

"You know, if you loved Arian at all you would have an abortion because this child is going to ruin everything. . . . Like, our whole family will never accept this child." (Foster's brother)

While I can understand how a pregnant women (whether a gold-digger or not) would want to hear these things, in my mind, they don't constitute harassment.

I agree with you, but the aggregation of them I would consider harassment, assuming she told Foster that she's keeping it early in the text convos.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

A lot of going on in this thread. You can clearly tell there is not a lot of football to discuss this time of year.

So of all the people that claimed this chick is a golddigger, why did you pick me? Because I'm so awesome?

 

[Bayhawks]

So while I have no sympathy for Foster at all, I don't have a ton for her either, just because while what she says COULD be true, the odds of it don't seem too good. The only thing I know for sure she said, I don't believe. Did Foster ask her to get an abortion? Don't doubt that at all. Did he strongly insist she have one? Again, no shock there. But that's not illegal. Now if he threatened her, or had others threaten her, that's a different story. If it happened, yeah, that's something that's over the line for sure. But did it? What were the circumstances? As you say, we don't know. But what we DO know doesn't look good for her. So I'll save my sympathy for hungry kids rather than some college chick banging married training camp athletes then selling pictures of them and suing them after getting pregnant.

Based on the news I've read, these are the only quotes I can find of Arian or his family harassing her:

"He's like, 'You can't have this, you can't have this kid, like, we cannot bring a child into this, like, think about my kids,'" (Foster)

"You just can't bring a life into this world under these circumstances. It's not fair to anyone. It's not just about you." (Foster)

"You know, if you loved Arian at all you would have an abortion because this child is going to ruin everything. . . . Like, our whole family will never accept this child." (Foster's brother)

While I can understand how a pregnant women (whether a gold-digger or not) would want to hear these things, in my mind, they don't constitute harassment.

I agree with you, but the aggregation of them I would consider harassment, assuming she told Foster that she's keeping it early in the text convos.

Technically, this might "legally" be harassment.

However, when seeing this story, and reading harassment (coupled with the lawsuit), I initially believed that she was claiming Foster/his family were threatening her if she kept the baby. I don't see those quotes constituting a threat.

So, while they might be harassment, I don't see them as threatening, if that clears up my position.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

So while I have no sympathy for Foster at all, I don't have a ton for her either, just because while what she says COULD be true, the odds of it don't seem too good. The only thing I know for sure she said, I don't believe. Did Foster ask her to get an abortion? Don't doubt that at all. Did he strongly insist she have one? Again, no shock there. But that's not illegal. Now if he threatened her, or had others threaten her, that's a different story. If it happened, yeah, that's something that's over the line for sure. But did it? What were the circumstances? As you say, we don't know. But what we DO know doesn't look good for her. So I'll save my sympathy for hungry kids rather than some college chick banging married training camp athletes then selling pictures of them and suing them after getting pregnant.

Based on the news I've read, these are the only quotes I can find of Arian or his family harassing her:

"He's like, 'You can't have this, you can't have this kid, like, we cannot bring a child into this, like, think about my kids,'" (Foster)

"You just can't bring a life into this world under these circumstances. It's not fair to anyone. It's not just about you." (Foster)

"You know, if you loved Arian at all you would have an abortion because this child is going to ruin everything. . . . Like, our whole family will never accept this child." (Foster's brother)

While I can understand how a pregnant women (whether a gold-digger or not) would want to hear these things, in my mind, they don't constitute harassment.

I agree with you, but the aggregation of them I would consider harassment, assuming she told Foster that she's keeping it early in the text convos.

Technically, this might "legally" be harassment.

However, when seeing this story, and reading harassment (coupled with the lawsuit), I initially believed that she was claiming Foster/his family were threatening her if she kept the baby. I don't see those quotes constituting a threat.

So, while they might be harassment, I don't see them as threatening, if that clears up my position.

Cool. I don't know legal terms and don't really care. I don't see any kind of threat, but yeah I saw harassment. Whether that rises to some kind of legal thing is up to someone that knows about that stuff. An average Joe would consider what Foster and Foster's brother did harassing.

 

[msommer]

So while I have no sympathy for Foster at all, I don't have a ton for her either, just because while what she says COULD be true, the odds of it don't seem too good. The only thing I know for sure she said, I don't believe. Did Foster ask her to get an abortion? Don't doubt that at all. Did he strongly insist she have one? Again, no shock there. But that's not illegal. Now if he threatened her, or had others threaten her, that's a different story. If it happened, yeah, that's something that's over the line for sure. But did it? What were the circumstances? As you say, we don't know. But what we DO know doesn't look good for her. So I'll save my sympathy for hungry kids rather than some college chick banging married training camp athletes then selling pictures of them and suing them after getting pregnant.

Based on the news I've read, these are the only quotes I can find of Arian or his family harassing her:

"He's like, 'You can't have this, you can't have this kid, like, we cannot bring a child into this, like, think about my kids,'" (Foster)

"You just can't bring a life into this world under these circumstances. It's not fair to anyone. It's not just about you." (Foster)

"You know, if you loved Arian at all you would have an abortion because this child is going to ruin everything. . . . Like, our whole family will never accept this child." (Foster's brother)

While I can understand how a pregnant women (whether a gold-digger or not) would want to hear these things, in my mind, they don't constitute harassment.

I agree with you, but the aggregation of them I would consider harassment, assuming she told Foster that she's keeping it early in the text convos.

Technically, this might "legally" be harassment.

However, when seeing this story, and reading harassment (coupled with the lawsuit), I initially believed that she was claiming Foster/his family were threatening her if she kept the baby. I don't see those quotes constituting a threat.

So, while they might be harassment, I don't see them as threatening, if that clears up my position.

Cool. I don't know legal terms and don't really care. I don't see any kind of threat, but yeah I saw harassment. Whether that rises to some kind of legal thing is up to someone that knows about that stuff. An average Joe would consider what Foster and Foster's brother did harassing.

If those quotes constitute harrassment I'm done responding to texts. WTF??

 

[dhockster]

Arian is a different kind of guy and prior to this situation has come across (in my opinion) as being above all of the media attention he has received. I think he loves being thought of as some sort of intellectual. I think this situation could devastate him emotionally because now he is facing the reality that the world knows that he acts just like any other pro athlete who can get tail whenever he wants to. I am not saying it will happen or is probable to happen, but I would not be at all surprised if he does some harm to himself as a result of this situation.

The Texans had better draft a RB or sign one in free agency because:

-They will lose Ben Tate in Free Agency

-They are likely to not have or have a far less effective Arian Foster due to: injury, overuse up to this point, or emotional distress from this situation.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

So while I have no sympathy for Foster at all, I don't have a ton for her either, just because while what she says COULD be true, the odds of it don't seem too good. The only thing I know for sure she said, I don't believe. Did Foster ask her to get an abortion? Don't doubt that at all. Did he strongly insist she have one? Again, no shock there. But that's not illegal. Now if he threatened her, or had others threaten her, that's a different story. If it happened, yeah, that's something that's over the line for sure. But did it? What were the circumstances? As you say, we don't know. But what we DO know doesn't look good for her. So I'll save my sympathy for hungry kids rather than some college chick banging married training camp athletes then selling pictures of them and suing them after getting pregnant.

Based on the news I've read, these are the only quotes I can find of Arian or his family harassing her:

"He's like, 'You can't have this, you can't have this kid, like, we cannot bring a child into this, like, think about my kids,'" (Foster)

"You just can't bring a life into this world under these circumstances. It's not fair to anyone. It's not just about you." (Foster)

"You know, if you loved Arian at all you would have an abortion because this child is going to ruin everything. . . . Like, our whole family will never accept this child." (Foster's brother)

While I can understand how a pregnant women (whether a gold-digger or not) would want to hear these things, in my mind, they don't constitute harassment.

I agree with you, but the aggregation of them I would consider harassment, assuming she told Foster that she's keeping it early in the text convos.

Technically, this might "legally" be harassment.

However, when seeing this story, and reading harassment (coupled with the lawsuit), I initially believed that she was claiming Foster/his family were threatening her if she kept the baby. I don't see those quotes constituting a threat.

So, while they might be harassment, I don't see them as threatening, if that clears up my position.

Cool. I don't know legal terms and don't really care. I don't see any kind of threat, but yeah I saw harassment. Whether that rises to some kind of legal thing is up to someone that knows about that stuff. An average Joe would consider what Foster and Foster's brother did harassing.

If those quotes constitute harrassment I'm done responding to texts. WTF??

Is someone pressuring you to get an abortion? :( Get some counseling and talk to your family. It's a big decision and I hope you don't let anyone trick you into doing anything you don't want to do. Best wishes!

 

[TheFly06]

I predict that 2014 will be Foster's last season here in Houston. Besides these new off the field issues (which is not the biggest deal in the world in today's society, right or wrong), Arian is coming off back surgery, several years of well over 300 touches, the Texans O-line has been in a steady decline, and the RB-friendly, zone blocking Kubiak offense is no longer in town. I doubt Bill O'Brien will wanna run someone else's blocking scheme, and as great as Foster has been in the past, I don't think he's as naturally talented and could run in ANY system like a Peterson or Lynch or McCoy could. Maybe in wrong. But if O'Brien follows what the Pats have been doing all year at RB (commitee of solid to scrap heap guys), then I would look at Arians days in Houston bring numbered, barring a HUGE bounce back to his monster numbers. He would almost certainty have to be comeback player of the year for that to happen. Foster makes a lot of money on a Texans team that is in a bit of salary-cap hell, and has a lot of holes to fill at many positions. Ben Tate is as good as gone. Several new RB will be in Houston next season.

 

[Bayhawks]

So while I have no sympathy for Foster at all, I don't have a ton for her either, just because while what she says COULD be true, the odds of it don't seem too good. The only thing I know for sure she said, I don't believe. Did Foster ask her to get an abortion? Don't doubt that at all. Did he strongly insist she have one? Again, no shock there. But that's not illegal. Now if he threatened her, or had others threaten her, that's a different story. If it happened, yeah, that's something that's over the line for sure. But did it? What were the circumstances? As you say, we don't know. But what we DO know doesn't look good for her. So I'll save my sympathy for hungry kids rather than some college chick banging married training camp athletes then selling pictures of them and suing them after getting pregnant.

Based on the news I've read, these are the only quotes I can find of Arian or his family harassing her:

"He's like, 'You can't have this, you can't have this kid, like, we cannot bring a child into this, like, think about my kids,'" (Foster)

"You just can't bring a life into this world under these circumstances. It's not fair to anyone. It's not just about you." (Foster)

"You know, if you loved Arian at all you would have an abortion because this child is going to ruin everything. . . . Like, our whole family will never accept this child." (Foster's brother)

While I can understand how a pregnant women (whether a gold-digger or not) would want to hear these things, in my mind, they don't constitute harassment.

I agree with you, but the aggregation of them I would consider harassment, assuming she told Foster that she's keeping it early in the text convos.

Technically, this might "legally" be harassment.

However, when seeing this story, and reading harassment (coupled with the lawsuit), I initially believed that she was claiming Foster/his family were threatening her if she kept the baby. I don't see those quotes constituting a threat.

So, while they might be harassment, I don't see them as threatening, if that clears up my position.

Cool. I don't know legal terms and don't really care. I don't see any kind of threat, but yeah I saw harassment. Whether that rises to some kind of legal thing is up to someone that knows about that stuff. An average Joe would consider what Foster and Foster's brother did harassing.

If those quotes constitute harrassment I'm done responding to texts. WTF??

Legally, harassment is "systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands."

If she told them to stop, and they continued to tell her to abort the baby, legally it is harassment.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

So while I have no sympathy for Foster at all, I don't have a ton for her either, just because while what she says COULD be true, the odds of it don't seem too good. The only thing I know for sure she said, I don't believe. Did Foster ask her to get an abortion? Don't doubt that at all. Did he strongly insist she have one? Again, no shock there. But that's not illegal. Now if he threatened her, or had others threaten her, that's a different story. If it happened, yeah, that's something that's over the line for sure. But did it? What were the circumstances? As you say, we don't know. But what we DO know doesn't look good for her. So I'll save my sympathy for hungry kids rather than some college chick banging married training camp athletes then selling pictures of them and suing them after getting pregnant.

Based on the news I've read, these are the only quotes I can find of Arian or his family harassing her:

"He's like, 'You can't have this, you can't have this kid, like, we cannot bring a child into this, like, think about my kids,'" (Foster)

"You just can't bring a life into this world under these circumstances. It's not fair to anyone. It's not just about you." (Foster)

"You know, if you loved Arian at all you would have an abortion because this child is going to ruin everything. . . . Like, our whole family will never accept this child." (Foster's brother)

While I can understand how a pregnant women (whether a gold-digger or not) would want to hear these things, in my mind, they don't constitute harassment.

I agree with you, but the aggregation of them I would consider harassment, assuming she told Foster that she's keeping it early in the text convos.

Technically, this might "legally" be harassment.

However, when seeing this story, and reading harassment (coupled with the lawsuit), I initially believed that she was claiming Foster/his family were threatening her if she kept the baby. I don't see those quotes constituting a threat.

So, while they might be harassment, I don't see them as threatening, if that clears up my position.

Cool. I don't know legal terms and don't really care. I don't see any kind of threat, but yeah I saw harassment. Whether that rises to some kind of legal thing is up to someone that knows about that stuff. An average Joe would consider what Foster and Foster's brother did harassing.

If those quotes constitute harrassment I'm done responding to texts. WTF??

Legally, harassment is "systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands."

If she told them to stop, and they continued to tell her to abort the baby, legally it is harassment.

But even it was harassment, that doesn't necessarily mean she is deserving of emotional distress damages awarded to her or whatever she is seeking. That's a whole different question I think.

IF she was legally "harassed", we've probably ALL be legally harassed (or done some harassing or both), But I don't see a whole lot of law suits awarding me tons of damages in my future. Heck I've been harassed by every telemarketer I've ever talked to.

Of course, whether she is a "gold-digger" and if she deserves sympathy are entirely different questions too. We could all probably stand to be more sympathetic in general, but it's just harder to drum up that sympathy for certain people in certain situations.

 

[Bayhawks]

So while I have no sympathy for Foster at all, I don't have a ton for her either, just because while what she says COULD be true, the odds of it don't seem too good. The only thing I know for sure she said, I don't believe. Did Foster ask her to get an abortion? Don't doubt that at all. Did he strongly insist she have one? Again, no shock there. But that's not illegal. Now if he threatened her, or had others threaten her, that's a different story. If it happened, yeah, that's something that's over the line for sure. But did it? What were the circumstances? As you say, we don't know. But what we DO know doesn't look good for her. So I'll save my sympathy for hungry kids rather than some college chick banging married training camp athletes then selling pictures of them and suing them after getting pregnant.

Based on the news I've read, these are the only quotes I can find of Arian or his family harassing her:

"He's like, 'You can't have this, you can't have this kid, like, we cannot bring a child into this, like, think about my kids,'" (Foster)

"You just can't bring a life into this world under these circumstances. It's not fair to anyone. It's not just about you." (Foster)

"You know, if you loved Arian at all you would have an abortion because this child is going to ruin everything. . . . Like, our whole family will never accept this child." (Foster's brother)

While I can understand how a pregnant women (whether a gold-digger or not) would want to hear these things, in my mind, they don't constitute harassment.

I agree with you, but the aggregation of them I would consider harassment, assuming she told Foster that she's keeping it early in the text convos.

Technically, this might "legally" be harassment.

However, when seeing this story, and reading harassment (coupled with the lawsuit), I initially believed that she was claiming Foster/his family were threatening her if she kept the baby. I don't see those quotes constituting a threat.

So, while they might be harassment, I don't see them as threatening, if that clears up my position.

Cool. I don't know legal terms and don't really care. I don't see any kind of threat, but yeah I saw harassment. Whether that rises to some kind of legal thing is up to someone that knows about that stuff. An average Joe would consider what Foster and Foster's brother did harassing.

If those quotes constitute harrassment I'm done responding to texts. WTF??

Legally, harassment is "systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands."

If she told them to stop, and they continued to tell her to abort the baby, legally it is harassment.

But even it was harassment, that doesn't necessarily mean she is deserving of emotional distress damages awarded to her or whatever she is seeking. That's a whole different question I think.

IF she was legally "harassed", we've probably ALL be legally harassed (or done some harassing or both), But I don't see a whole lot of law suits awarding me tons of damages in my future. Heck I've been harassed by every telemarketer I've ever talked to.

Of course, whether she is a "gold-digger" and if she deserves sympathy are entirely different questions too. We could all probably stand to be more sympathetic in general, but it's just harder to drum up that sympathy for certain people in certain situations.

I never said I thought she deserved any damages. If those quotes are the extent of the harassment, she shouldn't get anything.

 

[Bamac]

Legally, harassment is "systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands."

If she told them to stop, and they continued to tell her to abort the baby, legally it is harassment.

1. What constitutes harassment varies by state. Which state's law did you quote?

2. Often, when a statutory phrase has an "including" clause at the end, actions other than the included (and similar) are considered excluded.

3. Ultimately, case law will have to define terms like "systematic" and "continued". Not obvious that a couple texts after instruction to stop would satisfy these requirements.

 

[Bayhawks]

Legally, harassment is "systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands."

If she told them to stop, and they continued to tell her to abort the baby, legally it is harassment.

1. What constitutes harassment varies by state. Which state's law did you quote?

2. Often, when a statutory phrase has an "including" clause at the end, actions other than the included (and similar) are considered excluded.

3. Ultimately, case law will have to define terms like "systematic" and "continued". Not obvious that a couple texts after instruction to stop would satisfy these requirements.

I didn't. I used a definition I found in a legal textbook I have from a graduate class I took.

Here is Texas' definition (that pertains to this situation):

Texas Penal Code

Sec. 42.07. HARASSMENT. (a) A person commits an offense if, with intent to harass, annoy, alarm, abuse, torment, or embarrass another, he:

(7) sends repeated electronic communications in a manner reasonably likely to harass, annoy, alarm, abuse, torment, embarrass, or offend another.

The way I read it, those texts would constitute harassment in Texas, as long as you believe that a reasonable pregnant women would be offended by repeated requests to abort her child against her will. That being said, I would be surprised if she received any compensation for this "harassment."

 

[The Bandit]

I predict that 2014 will be Foster's last season here in Houston. Besides these new off the field issues (which is not the biggest deal in the world in today's society, right or wrong), Arian is coming off back surgery, several years of well over 300 touches, the Texans O-line has been in a steady decline, and the RB-friendly, zone blocking Kubiak offense is no longer in town. I doubt Bill O'Brien will wanna run someone else's blocking scheme, and as great as Foster has been in the past, I don't think he's as naturally talented and could run in ANY system like a Peterson or Lynch or McCoy could. Maybe in wrong. But if O'Brien follows what the Pats have been doing all year at RB (commitee of solid to scrap heap guys), then I would look at Arians days in Houston bring numbered, barring a HUGE bounce back to his monster numbers. He would almost certainty have to be comeback player of the year for that to happen. Foster makes a lot of money on a Texans team that is in a bit of salary-cap hell, and has a lot of holes to fill at many positions. Ben Tate is as good as gone. Several new RB will be in Houston next season.

Foster will be 29 when the 2015 season starts, so I don't think you're going out too far on a limb here. And FWIW, Texans aren't that bad off cap wise now that Antonio Smiths huge contract is gone as they are projected about $10M under. Plus Schaub's $11M in dead money will be gone in 2015. Daniels & Manning will be off the books in 2015 as well for another $10M assuming they aren't cut this year. You've got to resign JJ Watt and fill some other holes that will take some of that space but they aren't too bad off going forward.

 

[Jewell]

I think he loves being thought of as some sort of intellectual. I think this situation could devastate him emotionally because now he is facing the reality that the world knows that he acts just like any other pro athlete who can get tail whenever he wants to.

Is there a rule against intellectuals getting tail? The President of France is currently mired in a tail-getting controversy, and Stephen Hawking frequents strip clubs in search of tail. Love of tail knows no maximum or minimum IQ.

And I think you're overstating the "devastating" effects of being viewed as a guy who can get tail whenever he wants it. Most guys wish they could be the guy who can get tail whenever he wants it, and most women find the guy who can get tail whenever he wants sexy because he's a hot commodity. If guys yearning to be in my shoes and women yearning to be with me are devastating effects, sign me up.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

I think he loves being thought of as some sort of intellectual. I think this situation could devastate him emotionally because now he is facing the reality that the world knows that he acts just like any other pro athlete who can get tail whenever he wants to.

Is there a rule against intellectuals getting tail? The President of France is currently mired in a tail-getting controversy, and Stephen Hawking frequents strip clubs in search of tail. Love of tail knows no maximum or minimum IQ.

And I think you're overstating the "devastating" effects of being viewed as a guy who can get tail whenever he wants it. Most guys wish they could be the guy who can get tail whenever he wants it, and most women find the guy who can get tail whenever he wants sexy because he's a hot commodity. If guys yearning to be in my shoes and women yearning to be with me are devastating effects, sign me up.

That's all great if you are single without kids.

I don't know if the effects will be "devastating" to Foster or not - I don't really know what kind of man he is. I doubt his "intellectual" status has much to do with it personally, but I would think any decent father would care about the effect on his kids, if not his wife.

 

[Jewell]

I think he loves being thought of as some sort of intellectual. I think this situation could devastate him emotionally because now he is facing the reality that the world knows that he acts just like any other pro athlete who can get tail whenever he wants to.

Is there a rule against intellectuals getting tail? The President of France is currently mired in a tail-getting controversy, and Stephen Hawking frequents strip clubs in search of tail. Love of tail knows no maximum or minimum IQ.

And I think you're overstating the "devastating" effects of being viewed as a guy who can get tail whenever he wants it. Most guys wish they could be the guy who can get tail whenever he wants it, and most women find the guy who can get tail whenever he wants sexy because he's a hot commodity. If guys yearning to be in my shoes and women yearning to be with me are devastating effects, sign me up.

That's all great if you are single without kids.

I don't know if the effects will be "devastating" to Foster or not - I don't really know what kind of man he is. I doubt his "intellectual" status has much to do with it personally, but I would think any decent father would care about the effect on his kids, if not his wife.

Agreed.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

I think he loves being thought of as some sort of intellectual. I think this situation could devastate him emotionally because now he is facing the reality that the world knows that he acts just like any other pro athlete who can get tail whenever he wants to.

Is there a rule against intellectuals getting tail? The President of France is currently mired in a tail-getting controversy, and Stephen Hawking frequents strip clubs in search of tail. Love of tail knows no maximum or minimum IQ.

And I think you're overstating the "devastating" effects of being viewed as a guy who can get tail whenever he wants it. Most guys wish they could be the guy who can get tail whenever he wants it, and most women find the guy who can get tail whenever he wants sexy because he's a hot commodity. If guys yearning to be in my shoes and women yearning to be with me are devastating effects, sign me up.

I don't think you have a good point, but to add, Richard Feynman used to go to strip clubs to write his physics papers. Don't think he was going to get some strange. It's still pretty awesome.

 

[dhockster]

I think he loves being thought of as some sort of intellectual. I think this situation could devastate him emotionally because now he is facing the reality that the world knows that he acts just like any other pro athlete who can get tail whenever he wants to.

Is there a rule against intellectuals getting tail? The President of France is currently mired in a tail-getting controversy, and Stephen Hawking frequents strip clubs in search of tail. Love of tail knows no maximum or minimum IQ.

And I think you're overstating the "devastating" effects of being viewed as a guy who can get tail whenever he wants it. Most guys wish they could be the guy who can get tail whenever he wants it, and most women find the guy who can get tail whenever he wants sexy because he's a hot commodity. If guys yearning to be in my shoes and women yearning to be with me are devastating effects, sign me up.

Let me clarify some of my thoughts: Last year Arian Foster put out an open letter to his infant baby girl about what kind of father he wanted to be to her, how he wanted to be there for her. He did this probably because he wants to be that kind of supporting father, but also because that is the public image he wants to portray. Now with this incident, his public image is taking a beating. I used the word devasting because of the audio I heard of a TMZ reporter talking to him outside his house earlier this week. Arian sounded so distraught, he almost seemed to be pleading, "why don't you guys understand what I am going through?". I think it is just a really hard thing for someone to mess up so publicly especially when they have had such a high opinion of themselves.

I am not trying to judge Arian, I just am responding to how he has come across to the Houston Media. He seems very much like Ricky Williams in that he just wants to do his own thing and be left alone. A very public lawsuit does not let him do this.

 

[Jewell]

I think he loves being thought of as some sort of intellectual. I think this situation could devastate him emotionally because now he is facing the reality that the world knows that he acts just like any other pro athlete who can get tail whenever he wants to.

Is there a rule against intellectuals getting tail? The President of France is currently mired in a tail-getting controversy, and Stephen Hawking frequents strip clubs in search of tail. Love of tail knows no maximum or minimum IQ.

And I think you're overstating the "devastating" effects of being viewed as a guy who can get tail whenever he wants it. Most guys wish they could be the guy who can get tail whenever he wants it, and most women find the guy who can get tail whenever he wants sexy because he's a hot commodity. If guys yearning to be in my shoes and women yearning to be with me are devastating effects, sign me up.

I don't think you have a good point, but to add, Richard Feynman used to go to strip clubs to write his physics papers. Don't think he was going to get some strange. It's still pretty awesome.

Thanks. It was meant to be a critique of the forwarded idea that a married guy with kids mired in a baby mama scandal would be more devastated over supposedly losing his intellectual image than his family. I'm basing that on how I think most guys would prioritize their concerns in Foster's situation. Since I don't know Foster any better than the poster who forwarded that idea, however, perhaps that poster is correct and Foster is that selfish and overly-concerned with his image. Who knows?

If maintaining a supposed intellectual image is Foster's primary concern, though, it's silly not only because his priorities are out of whack, but also because plenty of men throughout history known for their intelligence have cheated on their wife. It may call into question their integrity, but I don't think it necessarily calls into question their intelligence. People may think Bill Clinton is immoral. Not many people think Bill Clinton is stupid. Tail makes even smart men do dumb things.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

I think he loves being thought of as some sort of intellectual. I think this situation could devastate him emotionally because now he is facing the reality that the world knows that he acts just like any other pro athlete who can get tail whenever he wants to.

Is there a rule against intellectuals getting tail? The President of France is currently mired in a tail-getting controversy, and Stephen Hawking frequents strip clubs in search of tail. Love of tail knows no maximum or minimum IQ.

And I think you're overstating the "devastating" effects of being viewed as a guy who can get tail whenever he wants it. Most guys wish they could be the guy who can get tail whenever he wants it, and most women find the guy who can get tail whenever he wants sexy because he's a hot commodity. If guys yearning to be in my shoes and women yearning to be with me are devastating effects, sign me up.

Let me clarify some of my thoughts: Last year Arian Foster put out an open letter to his infant baby girl about what kind of father he wanted to be to her, how he wanted to be there for her. He did this probably because he wants to be that kind of supporting father, but also because that is the public image he wants to portray. Now with this incident, his public image is taking a beating. I used the word devasting because of the audio I heard of a TMZ reporter talking to him outside his house earlier this week. Arian sounded so distraught, he almost seemed to be pleading, "why don't you guys understand what I am going through?". I think it is just a really hard thing for someone to mess up so publicly especially when they have had such a high opinion of themselves.

I am not trying to judge Arian, I just am responding to how he has come across to the Houston Media. He seems very much like Ricky Williams in that he just wants to do his own thing and be left alone. A very public lawsuit does not let him do this.

It's not that he wants to do his own thing and be left alone. He wants to have his cake and eat it too.

How can you be a pitch man for 60000 companies and just want to be left alone? That's now how it works. You want to be on TV? You are on TV, homie.

Foster wants to have a good image for his daughter; lesson 5 of his open letter was "Men and her worth: (loads shotgun) A sore subject for any man with a daughter. I will teach her that she is a young goddess. Help her understand her worth. Let her know that she must hold every man accountable for who they are and how they act towards her. There will be a day when I give her away, and they say that a woman spends her life looking for her father in her groom, so until that day I will try to be the example of a man that she eventually will seek out. Men tend to be motivated by one thing. Don't fall victim to a prince charming. If he cares for her, he'll act accordingly. If not (aims shotgun), well, I guess it just wasn't meant to be."

Sounds to me like he was making sure his daughter knew that his father is a man and is as described in the above passage. Unfortunate that Foster doesn't know how to use a shotgun.

Value 4 is kindness, which apparently includes harassing a woman to get an abortion that she doesn't want.

Value 3 is "Know your why" which is to get some strange

Value 2 is "The value of a dollar" which Foster is going to expand on by teaching her how to pay child support.

 

[infantsam]

Shoulda paid the ho upfront. Much cheaper.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

Shoulda paid the ho upfront. Much cheaper.

Doubt it. Can't put that horse back in the barn. He could have paid her off, and a year later after the cash was gone, she'd be back for more. At least that's the way it usually seems.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Shoulda paid the ho upfront. Much cheaper.

Doubt it. Can't put that horse back in the barn. He could have paid her off, and a year later after the cash was gone, she'd be back for more. At least that's the way it usually seems.

I never understood that cliche. People put horses back in barns all the time.

 

[GregR]

When Foster first arrived on the scene, that he was obviously a bit different than most people came across as refreshing to a lot of people. I was one of them.

But different doesn't necessarily mean any better, let alone even good. He can be into philosophy and write poetry, but from what I've seen over the last few years that didn't necessarily mean he treats people particularly well or doesn't get caught up in the entitlement that comes from fame.

It's a disappointing situation. Would have liked to think he is at least a faithful husband and father. The last news I heard about this, he's counter suing and has audio tapes and text messages from her saying the things alleged in her suit like the harassment to get an abortion aren't true.

While it would be nice to know he wasn't harassing her like that, it only affects my perception of him a little at this point. The illusion that his colorfulness also meant he a role model, or even just an above average good person, was a ship already starting to leave port before this pregnancy even came up, for me. Now it's a ship that pretty much sailed completely.