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Armanti Edwards, Carolina WR (1 Viewer)

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Will this guy play in the NFL?

If this is not jaw dropping stats I don't know what is:

Armanti Edwards rushed for 313 yards and four touchdowns and threw for 182 yards and three more scores as Appalachian State advanced to the Football Championship Subdivision title game with a 55-35 win over Richmond Friday night.

I realize it's whatever Division 1A is called and well that's why I ask

 
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Also his completion percentage was 87%

 
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If he has good enough lateral agility and acceleration to get separation in the pros, he could be a nice ARE type. He definitely has football intangibles that you can't teach, just a question of whether he's an NFL quality athlete. He's only a freeeakin SOPHOMORE - so his body (6'0" 175 with a reported 4.58) has some more room to grow, mature, and the scouts honestly havent taken a good look at him yet. Some team is going to be more willing to take a chance because he's such a proven winner - on the verge of two FCS championships in two years, at age 18 and 19, not to mention the win in the big house.

 
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If he has good enough lateral agility and acceleration to get separation in the pros, he could be a nice ARE type. He definitely has football intangibles that you can't teach, just a question of whether he's an NFL quality athlete. He's only a freeeakin SOPHOMORE - so his body (6'0" 175 with a reported 4.58) has some more room to grow, mature, and the scouts honestly havent taken a good look at him yet. Some team is going to be more willing to take a chance on such a proven winner - on the verge of two FCS championships in two years, at age 18 and 19.
Sophomore? GeeshI'm not usually a fan of guys going early or switching schools but I would imagine if this guy switches to a D1 school he could have a shot at millions. He'd have to sit a year if he switched schools to Michigan, for example, right? If so, that wouldn't be any good.That sheer domination makes me wonder what more he could get out of playing against that limitted talent base for two more years.
 
If he has good enough lateral agility and acceleration to get separation in the pros, he could be a nice ARE type. He definitely has football intangibles that you can't teach, just a question of whether he's an NFL quality athlete. He's only a freeeakin SOPHOMORE - so his body (6'0" 175 with a reported 4.58) has some more room to grow, mature, and the scouts honestly havent taken a good look at him yet. Some team is going to be more willing to take a chance on such a proven winner - on the verge of two FCS championships in two years, at age 18 and 19.
Sophomore? GeeshI'm not usually a fan of guys going early or switching schools but I would imagine if this guy switches to a D1 school he could have a shot at millions. He'd have to sit a year if he switched schools to Michigan, for example, right? If so, that wouldn't be any good.That sheer domination makes me wonder what more he could get out of playing against that limitted talent base for two more years.
I just talked to one of my college sources and they say Edwards is a 4.4 guy now, and that with one inch and about 15 pounds, teams will be more likely to see him as a QB, but he also sees him as a WR/RB type. I don't know about switching schools, he's in such a unique situation with that chance to win 4 natl titles in 4 years, plus add to the list of app st's wins vs BCS teams - whether he does it vs BCS teams or FCS, scouts will know about this guy, and the success of smaller school players will make it so he's not discounted that much.
 
If he has good enough lateral agility and acceleration to get separation in the pros, he could be a nice ARE type. He definitely has football intangibles that you can't teach, just a question of whether he's an NFL quality athlete. He's only a freeeakin SOPHOMORE - so his body (6'0" 175 with a reported 4.58) has some more room to grow, mature, and the scouts honestly havent taken a good look at him yet. Some team is going to be more willing to take a chance on such a proven winner - on the verge of two FCS championships in two years, at age 18 and 19.
Sophomore? GeeshI'm not usually a fan of guys going early or switching schools but I would imagine if this guy switches to a D1 school he could have a shot at millions. He'd have to sit a year if he switched schools to Michigan, for example, right? If so, that wouldn't be any good.That sheer domination makes me wonder what more he could get out of playing against that limitted talent base for two more years.
I just talked to one of my college sources and they say Edwards is a 4.4 guy now, and that with one inch and about 15 pounds, teams will be more likely to see him as a QB, but he also sees him as a WR/RB type. I don't know about switching schools, he's in such a unique situation with that chance to win 4 natl titles in 4 years, plus add to the list of app st's wins vs BCS teams - whether he does it vs BCS teams or FCS, scouts will know about this guy, and the success of smaller school players will make it so he's not discounted that much.
I was thinking that past sucesses of similar players would definitely help Edwards. I could see him translating into a smiliar player/athlete as Seneca Wallace. Wallace started at a city college (then ISU) and then wound up being drafted in the 4th round. I was tempted to compare him to Kordell but I wish to avoid the race card. However, that comparison might be drawn in the future.
 
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i think he will get drafted but not as a teams QB

he will probably serve as a teams backup or 3rd string QB

having the play potential of a randel el, matt jones, seneca wallace. play him as a WR, trick play guy, and occasional lineups behind center to confuse the D

 
It will be interesting to see what the Cowboys do with Isaiah Stanback the next couple of years as a compare for Edwards.

 
he's a QB who had 313 rushing yards in one game? thats sick.

 
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If he has good enough lateral agility and acceleration to get separation in the pros, he could be a nice ARE type. He definitely has football intangibles that you can't teach, just a question of whether he's an NFL quality athlete. He's only a freeeakin SOPHOMORE - so his body (6'0" 175 with a reported 4.58) has some more room to grow, mature, and the scouts honestly havent taken a good look at him yet. Some team is going to be more willing to take a chance on such a proven winner - on the verge of two FCS championships in two years, at age 18 and 19.
Sophomore? Geesh
He's a couple of months younger than Noel Devine.
 
pretty decent game on the big stage again tonight:Armanti Edwards 9/15 198 13.2 3; 18 rush 89 Any more thoughts?
Still think, go pro sit on a PS, learn and get paidHe's not playing D1 and seemingly has gained all anyone can from playing that level of competition. I believe you play with the best if you want to be the best, so ...
 
I live in Boone and have seen this guy in person. He is a winner. If he were taller & 40lbs heavier he'd be the most interesting pick in this years draft.

FYI

I am not attempting to hijack the thread. Nor can I substantiate any part of what I am hearing. Pure gossip around here is that he might end up at FSU in the near future. Possibly one more reason for me to hate the Seminoles.

BTW There is a great party in Boone tonight.

 
I live in Boone and have seen this guy in person. He is a winner. If he were taller & 40lbs heavier he'd be the most interesting pick in this years draft. FYII am not attempting to hijack the thread. Nor can I substantiate any part of what I am hearing. Pure gossip around here is that he might end up at FSU in the near future. Possibly one more reason for me to hate the Seminoles.BTW There is a great party in Boone tonight.
Q Again maybe you know, if you move up to D1 do you have to sit a year like if you transfer school to school within D1?
 
tons of youtube highlights for anyone curious
usually when you say that, you actually link a video :lmao: Here's the game where he ran for 313 rushing yards.

Someone earlier in the thread said he runs a 4.58? He looks considerably faster than that to me. I wonder if he can catch...

Also has a 25/2 TD/INT ratio which is quite impressive.

 
tons of youtube highlights for anyone curious
usually when you say that, you actually link a video :excited:
In this case, I actually think it's more enjoyable to search and see what you come up with than click a link-almost seems limitting.I am mesmerized by this kid. Can't recall anyone like him. 3rd year(junior) and possibly his 3rd championship. He can run, catch, pass. Coach recalls him wanting to play D or ST. He gives credit to everyone else in interviews. When he was asked about switching positions at the NFL level, he said he'd just be thankful for the opportunity and do whatever his coach wanted. Alot of this kid is like some prototype, almost too good to be true. What's not is he's small and it's not D1 against Michigan, USC and Oklahoma that he's dominating. The only question really is if his game will translate to the NFL. I wouldn't doubt all 32 scouting departments have discussed this at some point even if it's to(unfortunately) brush him off. Just that one game last December commands that every team at least take a look. If only we knew what was said after they looked at his game....
 
Josh Cribbs comes to mind here. The guy has talent and I'm sure an NFL team will recognize that and find ways to get him the ball. I'm just not sure it is going to be at QB.

 
Bumping this OLD thread since the draft is near.

Giants executive scout, Steve Verderosa, quote: As an example, he called Appalachian State quarterback Armanti Edwards "one of the top 10 college football players I've ever seen," but said his size numbers give teams pause.

but one article: http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2010/3/...ance-at-armanti

Eagles in Attendance at Armanti Edwards' Pro Day

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Add this name to your list of sleeper picks in the 2010 draft: Armanti Edwards. A four-year starter at quarterback for the Appalachian State Mountaineers, Edwards threw for 10,392 yards and rushed for 4,361 more (5.8 avg) during his collegiate career, becoming the first ever NCAA Division I player to do so. His combined passing/rushing touchdown total was an astounding 139 TDs. That's an average of 208.5 points per year from one player alone. Edwards is a two-time Walter Payton award recipient and has led his team to four consecutive conference championships.

During the NFL combine, Edwards not only threw passes, but also ran receiver drills and even fielded punts. He could fit in as a quarterback, receiver, or kick returner at the pro level and compares to such players as the Browns' Josh Cribbs or the Patriots' Julian Edelman. He is currently projected as a sixth or seventh round pick and will be a project for whatever team signs him. However, if Edwards is able to find his niche in the NFL early on, he could prove to be a solid contributor for years to come.

During his Pro Day at App State, Edwards weighed in at 5'11" 182 lbs and clocked a solid 4.43 on the 40 yard dash. The Eagles were one of ten teams in attendance. He impressed with his speed and ability to make defenders miss, but struggled as a quarterback due mainly to his small size and accuracy. For this reason, many teams are now looking at Edwards exclusively as a WR/KR.

Star-divide

Currently the Carolina Panthers are the team that has shown the most interest in Edwards, inviting him for a private workout this Thursday. The Patriots, Jaguars, and Colts have jumped on board as well and should be hosting him within the next few weeks. Could the Eagles also wish to take a closer look? With the departure of Reggie Brown and the decline of Kevin Curtis, there is definitely a need for youth in the wide receiver department. A solid punt returner would also take the pressure off of DeSean Jackson. The Eagles could even use him as a QB for wildcat plays in the inevitable event that Michael Vick is traded or departs via free agency.

I have had the opportunity to follow Edwards' success during my four years at the University of Richmond, and I can say from experience that he is a game-changer. He is the type of player that coaches plan their entire game schemes around and defenders lose sleep at night thinking about. He is elusive and shifty, and has the leadership to rally his team around him. Whenever UR faced him in the playoffs, he was the player everyone was keeping an eye on at all times. Even though he has never taken snaps as a receiver or return man, he has enough raw talent that a good coaching staff could mold him into a weapon. It might not be a bad idea for the Eagles to use one of their sixth-rounders on him or even scoop him up should he hit the rookie free agent market.

http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&am...armanti+edwards

 
The Eagles have need for youth in the WR department? They have two guys under 25, one of whom might be the best WR under 25 in the league. I don't see any fit for a small kick returner in Philadelphia.

In general he'll have trouble with his measurables. It's not like a Matt Jones situation where the guy was a physical freak who people would take a chance on because of his size and speed; this kid is a smallish, decently fast guy who's never played WR. I think he'd be looked at as a pure KR prospect, if anything.

 
The Eagles have need for youth in the WR department? They have two guys under 25, one of whom might be the best WR under 25 in the league. I don't see any fit for a small kick returner in Philadelphia.In general he'll have trouble with his measurables. It's not like a Matt Jones situation where the guy was a physical freak who people would take a chance on because of his size and speed; this kid is a smallish, decently fast guy who's never played WR. I think he'd be looked at as a pure KR prospect, if anything.
Legend(and yeah I'm not sure, it does feel like a fairy tale) is he played WR, CB, QB and RB as a frosh.I do agree stark contrast in the raw prospect with the lack of size to Jones.My thinking is-I don't think there's a better risk than Armanti in the draft. Whenever a team is drafting risks, time for him. 5th round? I don't know, but fabulous athlete, ridiculous ability to win and lead....well worth a shot.
 
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The Eagles have need for youth in the WR department? They have two guys under 25, one of whom might be the best WR under 25 in the league. I don't see any fit for a small kick returner in Philadelphia.

In general he'll have trouble with his measurables. It's not like a Matt Jones situation where the guy was a physical freak who people would take a chance on because of his size and speed; this kid is a smallish, decently fast guy who's never played WR. I think he'd be looked at as a pure KR prospect, if anything.
Legend(and yeah I'm not sure, it does feel like a fairy tale) is he played WR, CB, QB and RB as a frosh.I do agree stark contrast in the raw prospect with the lack of size to Jones.

My thinking is-

I don't think there's a better risk than Armanti in the draft. Whenever a team is drafting risks, time for him. 5th round? I don't know, but fabulous athlete, ridiculous ability to win and lead....well worth a shot.
I personally would rather take a shot on Joe Webb then Armanti Edwards. I'm hoping my Bills scoop Webb up somewhere between rounds 5-7. Gailey was the one who created "slash" in pittsburgh and he went to the spread with Thigpin and Chiefs in '08 so he is a guy that could take advantage of both of their skill sets.

Joe Webb 6'3 223

40 yard: 4.44 Bench 225: 21 reps 20 yard Shuttle: 4.04

20 yard: 2.51 Broad Jump: 11'05" 3 cone drill: 6.71

10 yard: 1.53 Vertical Jump: 42'5

He played some wide receiver as a sophmore and had 40 catches for 453 yards. He also had close to 5700 passing yards and 2600 rushing yards in his career with 65 career touchdowns.

Webb is an insane athlete.

 
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glorydays,

do you think project WRs pan out often in Buffalo?

Steve....Johnson? and Hardy shouldn't they be contributing in 2010 or walking if they don't?

 
glorydays,do you think project WRs pan out often in Buffalo?Steve....Johnson? and Hardy shouldn't they be contributing in 2010 or walking if they don't?
No i don't think they pan out often, but i like Webb as an athlete so i'd definitely like to take a chance on him. Both Hardy and Johnson are going into there 3rd year and the Bills really need one of them to step up. Hardy had a disappointing rookie year but Johnson seemed to flash when he got an opportunity to play. Last year neither of them really saw the field and of course Hardy was still recovering from a torn ACL which he suffered at the end of his rookie year. With the loss of TO and Josh Reed, the Bills are in need of a number 2 receiver and it ain't Roscoe Parrish.
 
The ascension that former West Virginia quarterback Pat White enjoyed during last year’s NFL Draft process landed him in the second round. And just like White, Appalachian State quarterback Armanti Edwards brings a similar skill set, and maybe even more versatility, to the field. But while White was selected in the second frame, Edwards brings even more value to an NFL team as he’s projected to be a fourth round draft pick.

Even though Edwards isn’t projected to be a high-round selection, he’s had a hectic schedule this off-season. He’s had private workouts with the Carolina Panthers, Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Miami Dolphins and New England Patriots. He’s already visited the Atlanta Falcons, Denver Broncos and Washington Redskins. And, Scout.com has learned that Edwards will visit the Houston Texans on April 11th and 12th and the St. Louis Rams on April 13th and 14th.

A four-year starter for Appalachian State and the first two-time winner of the Walter Payton Award, Edwards had a prestigious career for the Mountaineers completing 65.1-percent of his passes for 10,392 yards, 74 touchdowns and 33 interceptions. Not only was Edwards dangerous throwing the ball, he also impacted the game with his natural athleticism and rushed for 4,631 yards and 56 touchdowns.

Edwards was invited to the NFL Scouting Combine, but was unable to work out due to a right hamstring injury. However, the 5-foot-10, 187-pound playmaker was ready to go a few weeks later at Appalachian State’s Pro Day on March 18th and underwent a full workout. He threw the ball, caught the ball and fielded punts from the Jugs machine during his outstanding showing in front of scouts, and ran a 4.41 in the 40, benched 225 pounds 13 times and posted a 34.5-inch vertical and a 10-foot-3-inch broad jump.

There are scouts that list Edwards as a quarterback, others list him as a wide receiver, but he’s currently the 16th rated quarterback listed on Scout.com’s 2010 NFL Draft Rankings.

http://sfo.scout.com/2/961051.html

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Interesting to see him making a lot of stops at teams after so many showed up for his pro day. There's definite interest then, it's not a "pipe dream."

 
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Edwards was invited to the NFL Scouting Combine, but was unable to work out due to a right hamstring injury. However, the 5-foot-10, 187-pound playmaker was ready to go a few weeks later at Appalachian State’s Pro Day on March 18th and underwent a full workout. He threw the ball, caught the ball and fielded punts from the Jugs machine during his outstanding showing in front of scouts, and ran a 4.41 in the 40, benched 225 pounds 13 times and posted a 34.5-inch vertical and a 10-foot-3-inch broad jump.
These are not particularly impressive measurables for a 5'10, 187 pound guy. So you're looking at someone who's decently athletic but not off the charts, who's short and small for a QB and not particularly fast for a short WR/KR, with little experience at either of those positions. I think teams are thinking about him as a late round flyer who'll they'll try out in training camp, not as someone they'll expect to make it in the NFL.
 
and the St. Louis Rams on April 13th and 14th.
BTW how shocked would the football world be if he and not McCoy, Bradford, Claussen etc were the Rams plan at QB?
No way that happens. But.......I could see Edwards getting drafted in the 6th or 7th round and then beating out a quarterback that was drafted in the 1st or 2nd. (see: Gus Frerotte over Heath Shuler)
 
Edwards was invited to the NFL Scouting Combine, but was unable to work out due to a right hamstring injury. However, the 5-foot-10, 187-pound playmaker was ready to go a few weeks later at Appalachian State’s Pro Day on March 18th and underwent a full workout. He threw the ball, caught the ball and fielded punts from the Jugs machine during his outstanding showing in front of scouts, and ran a 4.41 in the 40, benched 225 pounds 13 times and posted a 34.5-inch vertical and a 10-foot-3-inch broad jump.
These are not particularly impressive measurables for a 5'10, 187 pound guy. So you're looking at someone who's decently athletic but not off the charts, who's short and small for a QB and not particularly fast for a short WR/KR, with little experience at either of those positions. I think teams are thinking about him as a late round flyer who'll they'll try out in training camp, not as someone they'll expect to make it in the NFL.
4.41 is very fast for a QB, not for a RB or WR.I think there's enough tape for me to say he's much more than "decently athletic" yet I also get your point.
 
and the St. Louis Rams on April 13th and 14th.
BTW how shocked would the football world be if he and not McCoy, Bradford, Claussen etc were the Rams plan at QB?
No way that happens. But.......I could see Edwards getting drafted in the 6th or 7th round and then beating out a quarterback that was drafted in the 1st or 2nd. (see: Gus Frerotte over Heath Shuler)
oh yeah I know, just seemed odd with everyone penciling them in for a QB in the 1st or 2nd round, made for a silly thought
 
Edwards was invited to the NFL Scouting Combine, but was unable to work out due to a right hamstring injury. However, the 5-foot-10, 187-pound playmaker was ready to go a few weeks later at Appalachian State’s Pro Day on March 18th and underwent a full workout. He threw the ball, caught the ball and fielded punts from the Jugs machine during his outstanding showing in front of scouts, and ran a 4.41 in the 40, benched 225 pounds 13 times and posted a 34.5-inch vertical and a 10-foot-3-inch broad jump.
These are not particularly impressive measurables for a 5'10, 187 pound guy. So you're looking at someone who's decently athletic but not off the charts, who's short and small for a QB and not particularly fast for a short WR/KR, with little experience at either of those positions. I think teams are thinking about him as a late round flyer who'll they'll try out in training camp, not as someone they'll expect to make it in the NFL.
4.41 is very fast for a QB, not for a RB or WR.I think there's enough tape for me to say he's much more than "decently athletic" yet I also get your point.
4.41 is very fast for a QB because 4.41 is very fast for a 6'3", 220 pound guy, which is what most QBs are. For a 5'10", 187 pound guy, 4.41 isn't very fast. And that's a pro day time, so it's probably lower than what would be reported at the combine.
 
Edwards was invited to the NFL Scouting Combine, but was unable to work out due to a right hamstring injury. However, the 5-foot-10, 187-pound playmaker was ready to go a few weeks later at Appalachian State’s Pro Day on March 18th and underwent a full workout. He threw the ball, caught the ball and fielded punts from the Jugs machine during his outstanding showing in front of scouts, and ran a 4.41 in the 40, benched 225 pounds 13 times and posted a 34.5-inch vertical and a 10-foot-3-inch broad jump.
These are not particularly impressive measurables for a 5'10, 187 pound guy. So you're looking at someone who's decently athletic but not off the charts, who's short and small for a QB and not particularly fast for a short WR/KR, with little experience at either of those positions. I think teams are thinking about him as a late round flyer who'll they'll try out in training camp, not as someone they'll expect to make it in the NFL.
4.41 is very fast for a QB, not for a RB or WR.I think there's enough tape for me to say he's much more than "decently athletic" yet I also get your point.
4.41 is very fast for a QB because 4.41 is very fast for a 6'3", 220 pound guy, which is what most QBs are. For a 5'10", 187 pound guy, 4.41 isn't very fast. And that's a pro day time, so it's probably lower than what would be reported at the combine.
ummmm...new flash 4.41 is extremely fast for anyone.
 
Good article from the Charlotte Observer on Armanti Edwards after his first day at Panthers mini-camp. Link to article
interesting read. I've found him fascinating, glad to see the bandwagon filling up some. His size is about the only thing not to like about him and then there's that too short Steve Smith guy.....
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writ...ffseason/1.html

Armanti Edwards, second-round Carolina wideout. After a tough first day of NFL receiver work Friday, the converted Appalachian State quarterback (you'll recall he beat fifth-ranked Michigan at the Big House with three touchdown passes and one rushing in 2007) starred Saturday, making a couple of one-handed catches, one from fellow rookie Tony Pike. There's going to be pressure on Edwards to play a big role, and to play it early, after the Panthers dealt a 2011 second-round pick for the third-rounder they used to select him.

 
Time to get Edwards on the field

It’s time for the Panthers to see what Armanti Edwards can do.

At receiver and quarterback.

Even before Dwayne Jarrett’s DWI arrest early Tuesday morning, the Panthers faced the possibility of lining up three rookies and a chronic underachiever at receiver against the Bears this weekend.

Regardless of the status of Jarrett, whose legal fate could be in limbo for a few weeks until the results of his blood test come back, and the condition of Steve Smith’s left ankle, it’s time for John Fox to get Edwards on the field – preferably at quarterback.

We’re not suggesting anything drastic. Jimmy Clausen’s performance in a hostile environment Sunday in New Orleans was a positive step for the rookie from Notre Dame.

But the continuing offensive struggles – two touchdowns are not cause for celebration, even when it’s a high-water mark – should make this an easy call:

Throw Edwards in for a series or two in the Mountaineer package.

Fox won’t have to worry about Edwards dropping a punt or running the wrong route. Quarterback is his position.

If the Panthers drafted the former Appalachian State standout in the third round because of his athleticism, well, let’s have a look at it.

If nothing else, it gives defensive coordinators something else to scheme for, and gives the home fans something to get excited about.

The Panthers are 0-4. What do they have to lose?

--Joseph Person

http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2010/1...-the-field.html

 
SEPTEMBER

September 03, 2010 2:43 AM

Steve Reed

PITTSBURGH – The Carolina Panthers unveiled their “Mountaineer” package on Thursday night featuring rookie Armanti Edwards from Appalachian State lining up at quarterback.

The Panthers began working on the package last week in practice, but made sure to keep it under wraps until the game during closed practices.

Carolina drafted Edwards with hopes of turning him into a wide receiver and returner, but also with an eye toward using him at quarterback in what other teams refer to as the “Wildcat” offense.

The Panthers call it the “Mountaineer” because Edwards went to Appalachian State.

Although the Panthers used Edwards in that formation three times on Thursday night, they didn’t have much success running behind a reserve offensive line.

On Edwards’ first play from scrimmage, the left-handed rookie took the snap from the shotgun and rambled around left end but couldn’t find an opening and was tackled for a 3-yard loss. On the next play John Kasay hit the crossbar from 50 yards out and the ball bounced away.

In the second quarter the Panthers left Edwards in for back-to-back plays and he handed off twice, but they failed to pick up a first down.

http://www.gastongazette.com/articles/pant...ds-feature.html

 

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