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Arnaz Battle (1 Viewer)

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What are your guys' thoughts on him going forward? I think he might be a nice pickup once the 49ers decide to open up their offense a little (see the end of the monday night game for an example).

Thoughts?

 
You have to like him. Last year: 6 TDs. He has another year now, and a better threat on the other side. Plus, from watching the game, he had some nice blocks and really does the "little" things.

The team decided to use him on a crucial end-around, and he had a clutch catch on the final drive. I have a feeling that the staff and Smith like him quite a bit. I like his upside.

 
He shouldn't be on a waiver wire.
:goodposting: I have him in all four of my leagues. He's not going to set the world on fire, but he is a solid bye week replacement. And if Darrell Jackson goes down (which he has shown a propensity to do), he could be a solid WR3, possibly even reaching WR2 status.
 
Well, to answer the question he's worth a spot. He's a tough play if he's anything more than a waiver wire filler. He's a solid player for like a Survivor type league where you don't have to predict what week he's going to go off in.

I used him in the FBG weekly contest, I think those types of formats are perfect for a player like that.

 
He shouldn't be on a waiver wire.
:goodposting:
The number of these kinds of posts never ceases to amaze me. We don't know the size of the leagues in which people compete. We also don't know the roster sizes, transaction restrictions, etc. that may result in players generally worthy of a roster spot being available on the waiver wire.Though nobody cares about my league (12 teams), Anaz Battle is available on our waiver wire and he is a player I'll be watching.
 
I might be nuts, but I'm considering trying to add Battle and drop either DJ Hackett (injury may be long term) or James Jones...

 
He shouldn't be on a waiver wire.
:confused:
The number of these kinds of posts never ceases to amaze me. We don't know the size of the leagues in which people compete. We also don't know the roster sizes, transaction restrictions, etc. that may result in players generally worthy of a roster spot being available on the waiver wire.Though nobody cares about my league (12 teams), Anaz Battle is available on our waiver wire and he is a player I'll be watching.
:shrug: 'Taint my fault they can't find the Assistant Coach Forum.
 
Ok, if your league rosters >= 180 players, he shouldn't be on the waiver wire.
:lmao: Why even post in this thread if you aren't going to post something useful? I rarely post here, but posts like this get me fired up. Either offer something useful or don't post at all. Nobody cares about your arrogance and how perfect your league is.
 
Ok, if your league rosters >= 180 players, he shouldn't be on the waiver wire.
:goodposting: Why even post in this thread if you aren't going to post something useful? I rarely post here, but posts like this get me fired up. Either offer something useful or don't post at all. Nobody cares about your arrogance and how perfect your league is.
Battle has been discussed here and there has been some pretty indepth analysis. I just think Broadway is tryin to say that this question is pretty borderline for the ACF.
 
Ok, if your league rosters >= 180 players, he shouldn't be on the waiver wire.
:goodposting: Why even post in this thread if you aren't going to post something useful? I rarely post here, but posts like this get me fired up. Either offer something useful or don't post at all. Nobody cares about your arrogance and how perfect your league is.
Battle has been discussed here and there has been some pretty indepth analysis. I just think Broadway is tryin to say that this question is pretty borderline for the ACF.
Thanks for interpreting that for me. What I interpreted is "your league sucks, mine is better".Last post I will make. Not trying to hijack this.
 
He's praised more for blocking than anything else. He's the 4th passing option on that team, which is built around the run. Don't count on too much..

 
He's praised more for blocking than anything else. He's the 4th passing option on that team, which is built around the run. Don't count on too much..
assuming you mean D-Jack, Gore, Davis, Battle? Targets from week1:Arnaz Battle SF 9 Darrell Jackson SF 8 Vernon Davis SF 5 Frank Gore SF 3 sure it is just week 1 but I'm not so sure it play out as expected...
 
In a 12 team league that starts 3 WR per team, Arnaz Battle should probably be on a roster. He looks to to be solid #3 WR material at this point.

 
Ok, if your league rosters >= 180 players, he shouldn't be on the waiver wire.
:eek: Why even post in this thread if you aren't going to post something useful? I rarely post here, but posts like this get me fired up. Either offer something useful or don't post at all. Nobody cares about your arrogance and how perfect your league is.
My league has 12 teams with 16 players per roster. That equals 192 players. I don't see the problem with Broadway's post. As a matter of fact I kinda agree with it although he is on the WW in that 192 player league. I'm trying to figure out who I should drop for him.
 
I was fortunate enough to pick him up off of the waiver wire in my 32 team keeper league. He's an excellent #3 WR. I agree with the poster that said he could outperform DJax this season.

 
I Picked Up battle in my dynasty league for a SONG, he's young he's gotten progressively better with each year, and with the injury propensity of DJ he could be poised for a breakout, it remains to be seen, but indications lead me there. I say don't pick him up as #2, but in deeper leagues/dynasty formats his upside is Huge.

 
In a ppr league he should be on a roster, he had 9 looks his way and if he catches 6 for 45 yards that is 10 points which is not awful for a wr#3, add in a td and 16 points is hovering in WR#2 and WR#3 territory.

 
Arnaz Battle's career arc reminds me a whole lot of Hines Ward. And he is that type of player. It's only a matter of time before this guy is considered a solid WR#3 in fantasy. And who knows after that if Alex Smith and the Niner's offense matures.

 
Ok, if your league rosters >= 180 players, he shouldn't be on the waiver wire.
;) Why even post in this thread if you aren't going to post something useful? I rarely post here, but posts like this get me fired up. Either offer something useful or don't post at all. Nobody cares about your arrogance and how perfect your league is.
You get fired up because I mentioned that Battle is one of the top 180 fantasy players?
 
Ok, if your league rosters >= 180 players, he shouldn't be on the waiver wire.
:goodposting: Why even post in this thread if you aren't going to post something useful? I rarely post here, but posts like this get me fired up. Either offer something useful or don't post at all. Nobody cares about your arrogance and how perfect your league is.
You get fired up because I mentioned that Battle is one of the top 180 fantasy players?
He's fired up because you blindly say that Player X (Battle in this case) shouldn't be on the waiver wire without knowing anything about the league's scorind system, # of teams, rosters, etc. Perhaps the guy's in a 10 team start 2 WR league with a short bench. Or maybe he's in a 32 team leaague full of complete ##### idiots and LT is on the ww as well. His point is that posts like yours and "can I join your league" and the rest of those arrogant posts serve no purpose other than to get him fired up.Having said that, in a "typical" league, Battle should not be on the ww :(
 
Ok, if your league rosters >= 180 players, he shouldn't be on the waiver wire.
:shrug: Why even post in this thread if you aren't going to post something useful? I rarely post here, but posts like this get me fired up. Either offer something useful or don't post at all. Nobody cares about your arrogance and how perfect your league is.
You get fired up because I mentioned that Battle is one of the top 180 fantasy players?
He's fired up because you blindly say that Player X (Battle in this case) shouldn't be on the waiver wire without knowing anything about the league's scorind system, # of teams, rosters, etc. Perhaps the guy's in a 10 team start 2 WR league with a short bench. Or maybe he's in a 32 team leaague full of complete ##### idiots and LT is on the ww as well. His point is that posts like yours and "can I join your league" and the rest of those arrogant posts serve no purpose other than to get him fired up.Having said that, in a "typical" league, Battle should not be on the ww ;)
:IBTL: Given what I had to go on from the original post, I did the best I could.
 
I'm in 2-leagues...

12-person redraft start 2-WR's no ppr

10-person redraft start 3-WR's no ppr

He's on the WW in both leagues...

Also according to Fanball he is owned in 15% of leagues and started in 2%.

According to that, is seems likely he WOULD be on the WW in MANY leagues....

 
I might be nuts, but I'm considering trying to add Battle and drop either DJ Hackett (injury may be long term) or James Jones...
I dropped DJ for Battle earlier today. I'm going to hold onto Battle for a bit and see if he stays Smith's favorite target.
 
I don't quite see the upside in non PPR leagues but depending on how many WR's you are required to start, he could help.

 
Having said that, in a "typical" league, Battle should not be on the ww :football:
I'm in 2-leagues...12-person redraft start 2-WR's no ppr10-person redraft start 3-WR's no pprHe's on the WW in both leagues...Also according to Fanball he is owned in 15% of leagues and started in 2%.According to that, is seems likely he WOULD be on the WW in MANY leagues....
When I say "typical" league, I mean 12 teams, start 3 WR, no PPR and you're going to have at least 5 guys on your bench. That would mean that each team is going to have at a minimum 4 WRs on their team and most likely 5. That would mean he'd have to be ranked worse than 60 to not get drafted. I'm not saying he's top 20 material but given all of the preseason love for the 49ers he had to at least be on most people's draft boards as a late round flier. (I do not own him by the way but he was drafted late in our 12 team start 3 WR PPR league)
 
I have Battle in 2 leagues as my WR6 (start 3). I think he has the potential to move up to a spot-starter at WR3. Those who think he'll be a solid #2 are crazy, I just can't see him putting up Donald Driver numbers. I look at Battle as possible trade bait more than a starter for me.

I really like the fact that he was targetted more than D-Jax, and most of agree D-Jax is likely to miss time. I think a healthy D-Jax is key to Battle's success. He draws the #2 CB & rarely, if ever gets doubled. I think that would allow Battle to put up the better stats of the 2.

I could see 65 rec, 950 yds, 7-8 TDs happening. But thats only w/ D-Jax drawing the coverage.

 
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I don't quite see the upside in non PPR leagues but depending on how many WR's you are required to start, he could help.
Are you way high on DJax and V Davis, or do you think SF will have 2000 passing yards this year?
More of the latter. Then again in one league we are technically only required to start 2 WR's, so don't take my advice on anything.I just don't see the TD's which is near everything in non PPR.
 
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He's praised more for blocking than anything else. He's the 4th passing option on that team, which is built around the run. Don't count on too much..
I think after watching the performance of DJAX on monday night, Battle could become a more targeted player, total of nine against AZ same as Jackson, I think of him as a poor mans Hines Ward, you could do worse for a bench filler. I had to drop DJ Hackett due to the unspecified layoff, grabed Arnaz and will keep him benched for now. Toomer and Battle were availible on the wire in my 16 team re-draft legue, took them both bypassing A. R. EL.
 
:shrug: DJax has a slightly bad game on MNF and Battle has 1 big catch (and a fumble that people are ignoring, who DJax actually recovered to save the game) and all of a sudden Battle is the 49ers #1 WR. Jeez I love this week 1 overreaction. Lets just ignore DJax's whole career.
 
:unsure: DJax has a slightly bad game on MNF and Battle has 1 big catch (and a fumble that people are ignoring, who DJax actually recovered to save the game) and all of a sudden Battle is the 49ers #1 WR. Jeez I love this week 1 overreaction. Lets just ignore DJax's whole career.
:popcorn: And I get yelled at?
 
He shouldn't be on a waiver wire.
:thumbup:
The number of these kinds of posts never ceases to amaze me. We don't know the size of the leagues in which people compete. We also don't know the roster sizes, transaction restrictions, etc. that may result in players generally worthy of a roster spot being available on the waiver wire.Though nobody cares about my league (12 teams), Anaz Battle is available on our waiver wire and he is a player I'll be watching.
:goodposting: these, your league sucks if this guys available posts drive me crazy. battle is available in my league and i'm thinking about going after him. definately wasnt blown away to see him on the waiver wire.back to the question, i've never been a big fan of Djax and i think battle can be a playmaker for alex smith. he's an athletic guy, who may finally be figuring the WR thing out. all that said DJax is still the #1 and has the career #'s to back it up. what he doesnt have his the repoire with smith that he had with Hass, and drops arent going to help him get it. at this point battle seems worthy of a spot down near the bottom, nothing more.
 
shadyridr said:
:popcorn: DJax has a slightly bad game on MNF and Battle has 1 big catch (and a fumble that people are ignoring, who DJax actually recovered to save the game) and all of a sudden Battle is the 49ers #1 WR. Jeez I love this week 1 overreaction. Lets just ignore DJax's whole career.
I think you are misinterpreting... I just think most here think Battle is worthy of a pickup based on the targets he got in week1. And going forward think that he could play more of a role in the 49er passing game than originally expected - it's not like anyone is dumping Cotchery or Ward for Battle but some see those kinds of numbers as an upside - and point to the MNF game as justification - not the one big catch but the overall targets. As for D-Jax's whole career - it has been riddled with injuries - even more of a reason to take a look at Battle's upside. I like Jackson - he was one of my favorite Seahawks, and I appreciated what he did on Sundays, but I don't see him as a true #1 guy - he developed a chemistry with Hass that both players acknowledged. In SEA, he rarely flat out beat guys, he was more likely to find a hole in the coverage and exploit it (and he was very good after the catch), something that Smith will have to recognize before Jackson gets back to the same level in SF. And until both players prove that they can do that together, I'm doubtful as to his ability to be a dominate #1 WR.
 
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Peter_Griffin said:
BroadwayG said:
Wildcat said:
BroadwayG said:
Ok, if your league rosters >= 180 players, he shouldn't be on the waiver wire.
:popcorn: Why even post in this thread if you aren't going to post something useful? I rarely post here, but posts like this get me fired up. Either offer something useful or don't post at all. Nobody cares about your arrogance and how perfect your league is.
You get fired up because I mentioned that Battle is one of the top 180 fantasy players?
He's fired up because you blindly say that Player X (Battle in this case) shouldn't be on the waiver wire without knowing anything about the league's scorind system, # of teams, rosters, etc. Perhaps the guy's in a 10 team start 2 WR league with a short bench. Or maybe he's in a 32 team leaague full of complete ##### idiots and LT is on the ww as well. His point is that posts like yours and "can I join your league" and the rest of those arrogant posts serve no purpose other than to get him fired up.Having said that, in a "typical" league, Battle should not be on the ww ;)
I don't know why I feel the need today, but I'm going to stick up for Broadway again. Most 10 team leagues with short benches don't have 180 players drafted. I don't really understand what your point is. Broadway never said that the OP's league sucked. He merely stated that Battle shouldn't be on the WW in leagues that have 180 people rostered. I personally would put the number at 200 or so, but his post was not unreasonable. I hate all the "your league sucks" "Do you play amongst 3rd graders" etc. comments too. I reread the posts and can't come up with anywhere that Broadway said that.
 
Peter_Griffin said:
BroadwayG said:
Wildcat said:
BroadwayG said:
Ok, if your league rosters >= 180 players, he shouldn't be on the waiver wire.
:goodposting: Why even post in this thread if you aren't going to post something useful? I rarely post here, but posts like this get me fired up. Either offer something useful or don't post at all. Nobody cares about your arrogance and how perfect your league is.
You get fired up because I mentioned that Battle is one of the top 180 fantasy players?
He's fired up because you blindly say that Player X (Battle in this case) shouldn't be on the waiver wire without knowing anything about the league's scorind system, # of teams, rosters, etc. Perhaps the guy's in a 10 team start 2 WR league with a short bench. Or maybe he's in a 32 team leaague full of complete ##### idiots and LT is on the ww as well. His point is that posts like yours and "can I join your league" and the rest of those arrogant posts serve no purpose other than to get him fired up.Having said that, in a "typical" league, Battle should not be on the ww ;)
I don't know why I feel the need today, but I'm going to stick up for Broadway again. Most 10 team leagues with short benches don't have 180 players drafted. I don't really understand what your point is. Broadway never said that the OP's league sucked. He merely stated that Battle shouldn't be on the WW in leagues that have 180 people rostered. I personally would put the number at 200 or so, but his post was not unreasonable. I hate all the "your league sucks" "Do you play amongst 3rd graders" etc. comments too. I reread the posts and can't come up with anywhere that Broadway said that.
Thanks.To be honest, my original post was "He shouldn't be on a waiver wire." Since that can easily be construed as 'If Arnaz Battle is on the waiver wire in your league, you suck, your friends suck and your league sucks,' I enhanced it to the 180 player comment. Apparently, it wasn't enough.

 
Peter_Griffin said:
Peter_Griffin said:
Having said that, in a "typical" league, Battle should not be on the ww :pickle:
playin4beer said:
I'm in 2-leagues...12-person redraft start 2-WR's no ppr10-person redraft start 3-WR's no pprHe's on the WW in both leagues...Also according to Fanball he is owned in 15% of leagues and started in 2%.According to that, is seems likely he WOULD be on the WW in MANY leagues....
When I say "typical" league, I mean 12 teams, start 3 WR, no PPR and you're going to have at least 5 guys on your bench. That would mean that each team is going to have at a minimum 4 WRs on their team and most likely 5. That would mean he'd have to be ranked worse than 60 to not get drafted. I'm not saying he's top 20 material but given all of the preseason love for the 49ers he had to at least be on most people's draft boards as a late round flier. (I do not own him by the way but he was drafted late in our 12 team start 3 WR PPR league)
Maybe maybe not. As the #2 WR on a mediocre passing team that puts him in the 40-50's for WR's. If you also consider the fact that coming into the season he's the 4th receiving option behind DJax, Davis and Gore at best plus they also brought in Lelie and drafted Hill so there are plenty of targets in San Fran. I like Battle better than those 2 but I can see the logic why he's available in many leagues.
 
I think you are misinterpreting... I just think most here think Battle is worthy of a pickup based on the targets he got in week1. And going forward think that he could play more of a role in the 49er passing game than originally expected - it's not like anyone is dumping Cotchery or Ward for Battle but some see those kinds of numbers as an upside - and point to the MNF game as justification - not the one big catch but the overall targets. As for D-Jax's whole career - it has been riddled with injuries - even more of a reason to take a look at Battle's upside. I like Jackson - he was one of my favorite Seahawks, and I appreciated what he did on Sundays, but I don't see him as a true #1 guy - he developed a chemistry with Hass that both players acknowledged. In SEA, he rarely flat out beat guys, he was more likely to find a hole in the coverage and exploit it (and he was very good after the catch), something that Smith will have to recognize before Jackson gets back to the same level in SF. And until both players prove that they can do that together, I'm doubtful as to his ability to be a dominate #1 WR.
Good post. Besides DJax's injury history there is something else about him I don't like it. I assume the Seahawks FO knows more about Jackson than I'll even know and I think it speaks volumes that they would give up a #1 pick for Branch, sign both Branch and Burleson to nice contracts, and than give away DJax for a 4th round pick. This simply tells me they were not very high on him. Maybe it was his drops or his injuries but something is there and it's why I think Battle could be in for a decent year.
 
I'm using him as my bye-week filler in my $$$$ keeper league for now unless I have something more temping when that time comes.

Week 5: Bal

Week 8: NO

Week 9: @ ATL

 
What I wrote back in December about Battle:"Battle is hard for me to describe as a receiver. He's not as explosive as the top guys and doesn't have any notable freakish physical ability. However he runs solid routes, usually can get separation, seems to have a good work ethic and is one of the most sure-handed guys I've seen in a while. Rarely do I see him drop a ball that's halfway catchable; even when taking a big hit. His reception numbers from spotty QB play attest to this."The important thing with Battle is he can catch the ball and does so on the most frequent basis out of the Niners receiving corps. In close games, especially ones where the coaching staff doesn't want to take the reins off of Alex Smith, he'll see a decent amount of targets. Last year Battle had 7 weeks of 10 pts or more in PPR leagues. Not world beating, but perfectly fine out of a #3 WR unless you're trying to shoot for the stars each week.

Lets just ignore DJax's whole career.
Well let's see, D-Jax has been productive when healthy and with Hasselbeck throwing to him in an offense that wasn't scared to pass mid to deep field. Right now he's healthy, but Alex Smith certainly isn't going to give him numbers Hasselbeck would and we have yet to see what the offense will do in regards to the deep ball.
 
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I find it funny that Vernon Davis and Darrell Jackson were mid round picks this year and Arnaz Battle remains on waiver wires when he could quite possibly lead the team in all receiving categories in 2007...

 
Battle looked sharp in practice on Thursday and actually seemed to be getting the bulk of the deep rout reps. SF aired it out often in training camp which is more than a little out of character for the typically conservative O that Nolan likes to run. New O coordinator Hostler really likes Battle's work ethic and I'm not convinced that he has really warmed up to D-Jax. Battle has no fear on cross routs (D-Jax has been known to "turtle") and has great hands. He really is the first option. Of Course none of this means anything if A.Smith cant get him the ball. Lastly, the whole passing attack in SF to this point starting in OTA's is built to get V. Davis the ball. The problem with that is Vernon has a difficult time catching the ball. Not talking about some of the time, saying most of the time. This little fact has not been widely reported but is well known in camp. Smith is a young and maturing QB that looks to Battle when he gets in trouble(often). From a fantasy perspective I believe Battle to be a solid WR2 or WR3 but he may surprise many people if Smith cant rely on VD when pressured. Lastly I feel compelled to note that I am not a Battle owner in either of my two leagues. Oh Yeah! When Gore finds his groove back, none of the above will matter and should be completley dis-regarded. Cheers

 

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