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Forgot to mention that on the actual team depth-chart in the meeting room, it is Battle not D-jax listed as WR1. Not sure if team web site contradicts this but thats what is on the wall. Cheers

 
Metallurgist said:
I'm using him as my bye-week filler in my $$$$ keeper league for now unless I have something more temping when that time comes.

Week 5: Bal

Week 8: NO

Week 9: @ ATL
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You're starting Battle against the Ravens? You're a braver soul than I would be if I had him.
 
This certainly isn't going to hurt the 49ers' passing game on Sunday. From RotoWorld:

Rams CB Tye Hill will miss four-to-six weeks after suffering multiple broken bones in his back during Thursday's practice.

St. Louis is now down both its starting corners (Fakhir Brown is suspended the first four games). An average to below average pass defense now looks awful on paper. Ronald Bartell and burnable vet Lenny Walls will likely play outside in Week 2 vs. the 49ers, with rookie Jonathan Wade at nickel back.

 
Hemi-Colon said:
whodeywhodey said:
Hemi-Colon said:
Forgot to mention that on the actual team depth-chart in the meeting room, it is Battle not D-jax listed as WR1. Not sure if team web site contradicts this but thats what is on the wall. Cheers
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Don't know how you got that info but :thumbup:
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I have no source other than my own two eyes. Would prefer to keep in what capacity on the DL as I hope you can appreciate. Cheers
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That's good enough for me! SF has to throw the ball to somebody and I'm not really sold on DJax or Vernon Davis. Alex Smith will have his fair share of completions this year and Gore can't catch them all.
 
You're starting Battle against the Ravens? You're a braver soul than I would be if I had him.
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actually this isnt a bad ideaget down early, gore will be shut down, SF has to pass the rest of gamethat and the ravens Def will get wore down at the end of games as their offense is still putrid with McNair and Ogden hurting and McGahee running into the back of his linementhey didnt actually shut down the cincy WRs last week albeit they are more talented obviously
 
while it's no shoe-in, battle (to me) is a guy who could very well the be the #1 target on his team and can be had dirt cheaply (for now). he's got some of the best hands in the league, his coaches love him and his main competition for catches is a guy who's always hurt and can't catch.

i can get excited about a guy like that.

 
Hemi-Colon said:
Battle looked sharp in practice on Thursday and actually seemed to be getting the bulk of the deep rout reps. SF aired it out often in training camp which is more than a little out of character for the typically conservative O that Nolan likes to run. New O coordinator Hostler really likes Battle's work ethic and I'm not convinced that he has really warmed up to D-Jax. Battle has no fear on cross routs (D-Jax has been known to "turtle") and has great hands. He really is the first option. Of Course none of this means anything if A.Smith cant get him the ball. Lastly, the whole passing attack in SF to this point starting in OTA's is built to get V. Davis the ball. The problem with that is Vernon has a difficult time catching the ball. Not talking about some of the time, saying most of the time. This little fact has not been widely reported but is well known in camp. Smith is a young and maturing QB that looks to Battle when he gets in trouble(often). From a fantasy perspective I believe Battle to be a solid WR2 or WR3 but he may surprise many people if Smith cant rely on VD when pressured. Lastly I feel compelled to note that I am not a Battle owner in either of my two leagues. Oh Yeah! When Gore finds his groove back, none of the above will matter and should be completley dis-regarded. Cheers
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This is gold. Great inside info. Thanks.
 
Lash said:
You're starting Battle against the Ravens? You're a braver soul than I would be if I had him.
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actually this isnt a bad ideaget down early, gore will be shut down, SF has to pass the rest of gamethat and the ravens Def will get wore down at the end of games as their offense is still putrid with McNair and Ogden hurting and McGahee running into the back of his linementhey didnt actually shut down the cincy WRs last week albeit they are more talented obviously
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And Smith isn't anywhere near Palmer at QB. Whether he can handle the pressure and make good decisions are huge issues that I wouldn't trust against the Ravens. They will likely pressure him all game long and force him into mistakes. I don't think DJax or Battle are good plays that week but we'll see.I do like Battle this week quite a bit. With the Rams' secondary in shambles I think both he and DJax will have good games.
 
Battle's career vs. the Rams:

2006

3-78-0

3-36-0

2005

5-59-1

4-37-0

Nothing special but he has been reasonably active.

 
Practice just ended about a half hour ago and Battle looked impressive again. I will now drink my own Kool-aid and grab him off of waivers. He has clearly convinced me that it is a sin that he remains on so many WWs. Cheers, and thank you all for the positive feedback. Good Luck this weekend.

 
Hemi-Colon said:
Practice just ended about a half hour ago and Battle looked impressive again. I will now drink my own Kool-aid and grab him off of waivers. He has clearly convinced me that it is a sin that he remains on so many WWs. Cheers, and thank you all for the positive feedback. Good Luck this weekend.
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Practice ends at 1PM?
 
shadyridr said:
Hemi-Colon said:
Practice just ended about a half hour ago and Battle looked impressive again. I will now drink my own Kool-aid and grab him off of waivers. He has clearly convinced me that it is a sin that he remains on so many WWs. Cheers, and thank you all for the positive feedback. Good Luck this weekend.
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Practice ends at 1PM?
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Could be. Fridays are often a light practice. The Packers usually finish up around 1 p.m. Central Time on Fridays. For what it's worth, I'm on board the Battle Brigade this week as my WR4. The matchup alone should help him get 4-5 receptions. Whether he does anything with them and gets into the end zone remains to be seen.
 
I am starting Battle over Burress in one of my leagues. Even if Eli starts, I'm worried what constant pressure will do to Eli and the offensive gameplan for the NYG may be to run the ball more often and throw to the RB/TE more often as well. Battle has a great matchup this week against STL, in what should be a 28-21 ballgame.

 
shadyridr said:
1huskerfan said:
shadyridr said:
Hemi-Colon said:
Practice just ended about a half hour ago and Battle looked impressive again. I will now drink my own Kool-aid and grab him off of waivers. He has clearly convinced me that it is a sin that he remains on so many WWs. Cheers, and thank you all for the positive feedback. Good Luck this weekend.
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Practice ends at 1PM?
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Why shouldn't it?
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Umm I was just asking a question
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My guess is that they practice at the time of their game that week (for obvious reasons.) The play at 10 am (local time) so practicing from 9-1 makes sense.
 
1huskerfan said:
shadyridr said:
1huskerfan said:
shadyridr said:
Hemi-Colon said:
Practice just ended about a half hour ago and Battle looked impressive again. I will now drink my own Kool-aid and grab him off of waivers. He has clearly convinced me that it is a sin that he remains on so many WWs. Cheers, and thank you all for the positive feedback. Good Luck this weekend.
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Practice ends at 1PM?
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Why shouldn't it?
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Umm I was just asking a question
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My guess is that they practice at the time of their game that week (for obvious reasons.) The play at 10 am (local time) so practicing from 9-1 makes sense.
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That's exactly what's going on, Nolan wants the team to practice around the time of the game.
 
Practicing on the west coast at the same time of they're eastern time zone games is the idea, as stated above. It also needed to end early so they can get to the airport.

 
packersfan said:
Metallurgist said:
I'm using him as my bye-week filler in my $$$$ keeper league for now unless I have something more temping when that time comes.

Week 5: Bal

Week 8: NO

Week 9: @ ATL
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You're starting Battle against the Ravens? You're a braver soul than I would be if I had him.
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Not many options on my roster at wr after Mr Battle. Brandon Jones - TEN would be considered for week 6 (@ ATL) if things change. Again, holding tight until then...
 
Hemi-Colon > regarding VD's struggles. Is he not running sharp routs? Not positioning himself for the catch? Dropping balls?

TIA

 
#@%&$!? said:
Hemi-Colon > regarding VD's struggles. Is he not running sharp routs? Not positioning himself for the catch? Dropping balls?TIA
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He probably runs the best routes on the team. He is also probably the most athletic player on any field he is playing on. His weakness is his hands. Tends to look up field to soon perhaps,not for fear of getting crushed, but more likely wanting and trying to do too much. I know, that would seem like a good problem to have if that were your TE's only weakness. But trust me, it is a glaring weakness. That coupled with the fact that he is improved, yet still somewhat struggling on his blocking assignments will mean that he will lose many snaps. There is a reason SF carries 3 veteran TE's, and is working out a fourth on the practice squad. Make no mistake, Vernon is going to get his, I am sure of that due to the fact that he IS so athletic and continues to improve. Not hating on Vernon, just noting the potential value increase to Battle. Cheers
 
#@%&$!? said:
Hemi-Colon > regarding VD's struggles. Is he not running sharp routs? Not positioning himself for the catch? Dropping balls?TIA
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How many other players will be started in your fantasy league this week with those initials. Not glossing the guy, just trying to save my poor typing skills a few less hunts and a few less pecks. VD is kind of funny now that I think about it. For what ever its worth, I personally refer to him, privatley of course, as Vernon Winslow Jr.
 
I don't know which of Battle or D-Jax will have a better year, but it's interesting that many are pointing to D-Jax's injury history. Battle seems to have been banged up just as much over a shorter period of time.

 
Darrell Jackson COULD have been the leading WR this past Monday. But he dropped some easy ones and didn't make any tough catches. And don't forget, it was Battle's number that was called when the game was on the line.... twice.

 
Blue-Kun said:
What I wrote back in December about Battle:"Battle is hard for me to describe as a receiver. He's not as explosive as the top guys and doesn't have any notable freakish physical ability. However he runs solid routes, usually can get separation, seems to have a good work ethic and is one of the most sure-handed guys I've seen in a while. Rarely do I see him drop a ball that's halfway catchable; even when taking a big hit. His reception numbers from spotty QB play attest to this."The important thing with Battle is he can catch the ball and does so on the most frequent basis out of the Niners receiving corps. In close games, especially ones where the coaching staff doesn't want to take the reins off of Alex Smith, he'll see a decent amount of targets. Last year Battle had 7 weeks of 10 pts or more in PPR leagues. Not world beating, but perfectly fine out of a #3 WR unless you're trying to shoot for the stars each week.
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I think he's most comparable to Wes Welker, but most are not as high on Wes as I am. VERY reliable hands and good routes. Good routes can take a guy that does not have superior physical talent and get him 80 receptions. I don't expect big yds/rec or RAC yards, but PPR leagues should take note of him. FWIW, he's starting for me this week (see roster below if you care).
 
Hemi-Colon said:
Forgot to mention that on the actual team depth-chart in the meeting room, it is Battle not D-jax listed as WR1. Not sure if team web site contradicts this but thats what is on the wall. Cheers
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Sitting Coles this week and inserting Battle to compliment Gore. Risky High reward High Bust factor to start two against the Rams. Untill I see DJAX extend to make a catch in the Niners offense I consider Battle the Number One Option. I think of Battle really as a Bobby engram type with better athletic ability. Will never dominate but could wind up with low end Number 1 WR yards and TD's this season. 1050 and 8 TD's. Think Berrian or Santonio Holmes type of year.
 
zamboni said:
I don't know which of Battle or D-Jax will have a better year, but it's interesting that many are pointing to D-Jax's injury history. Battle seems to have been banged up just as much over a shorter period of time.
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DJAX has always dropped a lot of balls, Faster and a great route runner but on some weeks got hands with no fingers, thud rather than wak.
 
kensat30 said:
Darrell Jackson COULD have been the leading WR this past Monday. But he dropped some easy ones and didn't make any tough catches. And don't forget, it was Battle's number that was called when the game was on the line.... twice.
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DJax's number was also called with the game on the line. He dropped what should have been a long TD.
 
Cookiemonster said:
Blue-Kun said:
What I wrote back in December about Battle:"Battle is hard for me to describe as a receiver. He's not as explosive as the top guys and doesn't have any notable freakish physical ability. However he runs solid routes, usually can get separation, seems to have a good work ethic and is one of the most sure-handed guys I've seen in a while. Rarely do I see him drop a ball that's halfway catchable; even when taking a big hit. His reception numbers from spotty QB play attest to this."The important thing with Battle is he can catch the ball and does so on the most frequent basis out of the Niners receiving corps. In close games, especially ones where the coaching staff doesn't want to take the reins off of Alex Smith, he'll see a decent amount of targets. Last year Battle had 7 weeks of 10 pts or more in PPR leagues. Not world beating, but perfectly fine out of a #3 WR unless you're trying to shoot for the stars each week.
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I think he's most comparable to Wes Welker, but most are not as high on Wes as I am. VERY reliable hands and good routes. Good routes can take a guy that does not have superior physical talent and get him 80 receptions. I don't expect big yds/rec or RAC yards, but PPR leagues should take note of him. FWIW, he's starting for me this week (see roster below if you care).
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Not that it really matters but after reading this thread I am starting Battle this week. I am not sold on DJAX with his record of injuries and under performance. As someone stated above Battle is high risk with high reward. With the injuries to the STL "D" I believe that the odds of Battle having a good Week02 are in his favor.
 
Battle was low risk (late-round pick, WW pick up) with a lot of upside. I forget who said it above, but the comparison with Hines Ward is apt. I was bummed when I missed him in a dynasty draft, but then he was dropped and I snagged him off the WW pre-season.

 
Interesting thread, I didn't realize some people were quite so high on Battle. As a D-Jack owner some of these posts have me on the verge of grabbing him off WW but I'm still worried:

- he has a history of knee problems

- he's the #2 WR on an offense that will presumably struggle with a shaky QB

- he's got Lelie, Hill, Jacobs waiting behind him

Then again, he's got only an injury-prone Jackson ahead of him.

I guess I'm just having trouble pegging his potential value in comparison to other mid-tier WR like Drew Bennett or Mike Furrey (both of whom are on my roster). Would you drop guys like that to take a chance on Battle?

 
vonbrocklin said:
Interesting thread, I didn't realize some people were quite so high on Battle. As a D-Jack owner some of these posts have me on the verge of grabbing him off WW but I'm still worried:- he has a history of knee problems- he's the #2 WR on an offense that will presumably struggle with a shaky QB- he's got Lelie, Hill, Jacobs waiting behind himThen again, he's got only an injury-prone Jackson ahead of him. I guess I'm just having trouble pegging his potential value in comparison to other mid-tier WR like Drew Bennett or Mike Furrey (both of whom are on my roster). Would you drop guys like that to take a chance on Battle?
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I like Battle better than both those guys. Barring a WR injury in STL.
 
as packersfan pointed out above, Battle is a nice little sneaky start this weekend with Ty Hill going down.

I've thrown him in my lineup over Patrick Crayton. 10 pts should be a given in PPR leagues this week.

 
Cookiemonster said:
Blue-Kun said:
What I wrote back in December about Battle:"Battle is hard for me to describe as a receiver. He's not as explosive as the top guys and doesn't have any notable freakish physical ability. However he runs solid routes, usually can get separation, seems to have a good work ethic and is one of the most sure-handed guys I've seen in a while. Rarely do I see him drop a ball that's halfway catchable; even when taking a big hit. His reception numbers from spotty QB play attest to this."The important thing with Battle is he can catch the ball and does so on the most frequent basis out of the Niners receiving corps. In close games, especially ones where the coaching staff doesn't want to take the reins off of Alex Smith, he'll see a decent amount of targets. Last year Battle had 7 weeks of 10 pts or more in PPR leagues. Not world beating, but perfectly fine out of a #3 WR unless you're trying to shoot for the stars each week.
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I think he's most comparable to Wes Welker, but most are not as high on Wes as I am. VERY reliable hands and good routes. Good routes can take a guy that does not have superior physical talent and get him 80 receptions. I don't expect big yds/rec or RAC yards, but PPR leagues should take note of him. FWIW, he's starting for me this week (see roster below if you care).
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I don't think he nearly has the quickness into and out of cuts that Welker does. I would compare his game most closely to a former Patriot- David Givens.
 
massraider said:
vonbrocklin said:
Interesting thread, I didn't realize some people were quite so high on Battle. As a D-Jack owner some of these posts have me on the verge of grabbing him off WW but I'm still worried:- he has a history of knee problems- he's the #2 WR on an offense that will presumably struggle with a shaky QB- he's got Lelie, Hill, Jacobs waiting behind himThen again, he's got only an injury-prone Jackson ahead of him. I guess I'm just having trouble pegging his potential value in comparison to other mid-tier WR like Drew Bennett or Mike Furrey (both of whom are on my roster). Would you drop guys like that to take a chance on Battle?
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I like Battle better than both those guys. Barring a WR injury in STL.
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I also like Battle better than both of those guys but while I like his matchup this week and am starting him I don't think there's much upside. I don't see him as a Welker type player because he's not in as good of an offense (obviously). Welker is going to put up good numbers this season because he has Brady throwing him the ball. I think Battle's production will be inconsistent because Smith will remain inconsistent. I really think Battle is a matchup starter at this point. I like him a lot more in PPR leagues because I do think he'll be good for 3-5 receptions most weeks. But I'm not sure you can count on him for huge yardage weeks and I don't think the TD potential is very high. If you look at his history against the Rams - who have never had a good defense in that time - you can see my point. He's put up solid numbers but never sensational ones. So I think if you're grabbing Battle with the hope that he'll blow up you're going to be disappointed. But if you grab him as someone you can start as a WR3 or (better yet) WR4 when the matchup is right I think you'll be happy with him.I still think he's a guy who is much more valuable to his NFL team than he is to his fantasy team. If Smith ever develops into a big-time QB that could very well change.
 
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