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Article In The Atlantic: Legalizing Sports Gambling Was A Huge Mistake (1 Viewer)

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The evidence is convincing: The betting industry is ruining lives.
By Charles Fain Lehman

Over the weekend, millions of Americans watched football. They cheered, they ate, and—more than ever—they gambled. The American Gaming Association expects $35 billion in bets to be placed on NFL games in 2024, about one-third more than last year’s total.

If you follow sports, gambling is everywhere. Ads for it are all over broadcasts; more than one in three Americans now bets on sports, according to a Seton Hall poll. Before 2018, sports gambling was prohibited almost everywhere. Now it’s legal in 38 states and the District of Columbia, yielding $10 billion a year in revenue.

Readers may be quick to dismiss these developments as harmless. Many sports fans enjoy betting on the game, they say. Is it such a big deal if they do it with a company rather than their friends?

A growing body of social-science literature suggests that, yes, this is in fact quite different. The rise of sports gambling has caused a wave of financial and familial misery, one that falls disproportionately on the most economically precarious households. Six years into the experiment, the evidence is convincing: Legalizing sports gambling was a huge mistake.

Starting in 1992, sports betting was generally banned throughout most of the United States under the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act. PASPA forbade running gambling “schemes” tied to competitive sports. Americans could still make bets with one another about Super Bowl results, but neither government nor businesses could get a cut of the action.

That approach held until 2012, when New Jersey, fearing that Atlantic City was losing its competitive edge, legalized sports gambling. The NCAA brought suit, alleging a violation of PASPA; the state responded that PASPA itself was an infringement on its sovereignty. The case came before the Supreme Court, which in 2018 ruled that PASPA violated the Tenth Amendment’s prohibition on the federal government exercising powers reserved for the states.

With PASPA gone, states were eager to let sportsbooks set up shop. Within a year and a half, Goldman Sachs estimated, Americans were betting about $50 million a month. By late 2023, that figure exceeded $1 billion a month—a 20-fold increase.

Because different states legalized sports gambling at different times, social scientists can compare different measures of well-being in states that did legalize with those that did not, before and after legalization.

Alarming patterns have started to emerge. Two recent working papers look at the economic impacts of legalization. One, by Northwestern University’s Scott Baker and colleagues, finds that legal sports gambling depletes households’ savings. Specifically, for every $1 spent on betting, households put $2 less into investment accounts. States see big increases in the risk of overdrafting a bank account or maxing out a credit card. These effects are strongest among already precarious households.

A second paper, from the economists Brett Hollenbeck of UCLA and Poet Larsen and Davide Proserpio of the University of Southern California, tells a similar story. Looking specifically at online sports gambling, they find that legalization increases the risk that a household goes bankrupt by 25 to 30 percent, and increases debt delinquency. These problems seem to concentrate among young men living in low-income counties—further evidence that those most hurt by sports gambling are the least well-off.

A third recent paper, from the University of Oregon economists Kyutaro Matsuzawa and Emily Arnesen, shows another, perhaps more surprising—and certainly more harrowing—harm of gambling legalization: domestic violence. Earlier research found that an NFL home team’s upset loss causes a 10 percent increase in reported incidents of men being violent toward their partner. Matsuzawa and Arnesen extend this, finding that in states where sports betting is legal, the effect is even bigger. They estimate that legal sports betting leads to a roughly 9 percent increase in intimate-partner violence.

Because of the studies’ design, these results reveal what sports gambling causes, not merely what it correlates with. And the numbers they reveal are of course not only numbers but human lives. Sports gambling is addictive; although many people can do just a little of it, some keep playing compulsively, well past the point of no return. This yields not only debt and bankruptcy but emotional instability and even violence. The problems don’t stop there: Gambling addiction has been connected to anxiety, depression, and even suicide.

The industry may claim to want to prevent problem gambling, but its profits largely come from the compulsions of people with a problem. A small number of people place the large majority of bets—about 5 percent of bettors spent 70 percent of the money in New Jersey in late 2020 and early 2021, for example. The costs of gambling concentrate among those least able to pay, setting back those who most need help. That dollar that could have gone to buying a home, getting a degree, or escaping debt instead goes to another wager. Such behavior is irresponsible, but it’s hard to blame bettors alone when companies make their profits by pushing them to bet more.

Legalization isn’t yielding many benefits, either. Tax revenue—one of the major justifications for legalization—has been anemic, with all 38 legal states combined making only about $500 million from it a quarter, less than alcohol, tobacco, or marijuana. And it hasn’t even shrunk the illegal market, at least in Massachusetts, where bettors were just as likely to use unauthorized betting sites after legalization.


Against this backdrop, PASPA-era prohibition looks comparatively benign. Americans could bet with one another, but businesses couldn’t profit off of it. Arrests for gambling were basically nonexistent, meaning prohibition had limited human cost.

For little obvious gain, most states have permitted businesses to make billions of dollars off of the most economically precarious among us. Some commentators and politicians have—falteringly—recognized these costs, and suggested careful regulation around the edges to address them.

But the more elegant solution is the blunter one: ban sports gambling once again. Unlike regulation—which is complex, hard to get right, and challenged by near-certain industry capture of regulatory bodies—prohibition cuts the problem off at the root. No legal sports gambling, no sports-gambling industry.

For the dozen states, including Texas and California, where sports gambling is still illegal, the solution is simple: change nothing. For the other states, undoing the damage may be harder. But it is damage worth undoing. If the states are “laboratories of democracy,” then the results of their experiment with sports gambling are in, and they are uniformly negative. Better to end the study now than prolong the suffering.
 
I have spoken to many of my gambling friends and we all saw this coming as the new epic epidemic in our country.

Not only that….if you thought players and officials were compromised before…..we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg now with legalized sports gambling.

I can’t stand the constant in your face BS of hey bet this….instant odds on a prop, parlay this, parlay that.

It’s just like how fantasy football got watered down, exploited and IMO ruined.

It’s so out of control and has infested NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL broadcasts….NFL is the worst though by far with their embracement of all the gambling…..it’s truly amazing.

I have been gambling on sports
Since I was 13. My dad was my first bookie. He taught me the way. I have plenty of discipline and know my limits.

But most people don’t and now the pandoras box has been opened and it won’t be shut. We are going to see the amount of lives ruined X’s 1000 now that your next bet is a tap away on the app on your smart phone.

Buckle up…..and get ready for a lot of greed, point shaving and dirty players and yes officials etc….the storm is coming.
 
It's clearly a sickness, just like drug addiction or alcohol. We've known it for a long time, but just too much money to be made by all parties involved (except for the betting public) to prevent for long.
The last few years, lobbyists have so corrupted our legislatures, everything is structured as to how taxpayer dollars can be stolen (aka school vouchers, etc.).
 
I know Missouri has a vote coming up in November - not sure how many of the other 11 do as well.
 
I have spoken to many of my gambling friends and we all saw this coming as the new epic epidemic in our country.

Not only that….if you thought players and officials were compromised before…..we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg now with legalized sports gambling.

I can’t stand the constant in your face BS of hey bet this….instant odds on a prop, parlay this, parlay that.

It’s just like how fantasy football got watered down, exploited and IMO ruined.

It’s so out of control and has infested NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL broadcasts….NFL is the worst though by far with their embracement of all the gambling…..it’s truly amazing.

I have been gambling on sports
Since I was 13. My dad was my first bookie. He taught me the way. I have plenty of discipline and know my limits.

But most people don’t and now the pandoras box has been opened and it won’t be shut. We are going to see the amount of lives ruined X’s 1000 now that your next bet is a tap away on the app on your smart phone.

Buckle up…..and get ready for a lot of greed, point shaving and dirty players and yes officials etc….the storm is coming.

Thanks. Agreed not everyone has the learning experience you had. Can you offer some insights or tips you've seen to be effective in gambling responsibly?
 
I am quite surprised I haven't been sucked into this as much as I potentially could with a pretty addictive personality. I dropped $100 into Sleeper at the start of last NFL season and do their little "more or less" parlays, usually on MNF or TNF - especially if I'm sitting at my dive bar with a beer. Just makes the game even more interesting, even if I have fantasy football implications also tied to the game. But I only put $5 - maybe $10 - in every time. I still have like $50 or so in the account and don't know if I'd reload if I lost it all. Fantasy football is really my "gambling" these days.
 
Sports gambling is still illegal in my state. I wish it were legal so I could drop $20 on the O/U of the TNF game that I wouldn't care much about otherwise, or the random college game I happen to have on. I played a ton of online poker back in the day, and I supplemented that with a small amount of online blackjack for the deposit bonuses. I know with 100% certainty that I will not develop any sort of gambling problem, so this would be fine for me.

Having said that, I can definitely see where easy access to sports betting is NOT fine for a significant number of people. One area where I've changed my views a bit as I've gotten older is that I'm a bit more willing to live with paternalistic restrictions on my own freedom when it comes to stuff like this. (See also marijuana legalization).
 
Maybe we should stake out a middle position where gambling is legal (promote and preserve individual rights), but with a ban on advertising and promotion (in the name of public health).
It's absurd how prevalent it's become as part of the sports broadcast.

Hosts aren't cracking open a bud light on set and saying how good it is. Yet they'll tell you what they think about Josh Allen's over/under 32.5 yards rushing (sponsored by Draft Kings). Super gross
 
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For little obvious gain, most states have permitted businesses to make billions of dollars off of...
I think this is the crux of the problem, and it's not solely germane to gambling. Our society is directed toward profit above all else. You get some negative consequences as a result, but very rarely will the consequences be harmful enough to a large enough number of citizens to attempt curtailing the assumed right to profit. I don't think that happens in this case, the people experiencing the most harm have the least amount of influence on government. The corporations making the profit will control the narrative, overwhelming any dissenters.
 
Maybe we should stake out a middle position where gambling is legal (promote and preserve individual rights), but with a ban on advertising and promotion (in the name of public health).
It's absurd how prevalent it's become as part of the sports broadcast.

Hosts aren't cracking open a bud light on set and saying how good it is. Yet they'll tell you what they think about Josh Allen's over/under 32.5 yards rushing (sponsored by Draft Kings). Super gross
What's truly comical is how some of the same jackasses that were ridiculing fantasy football (I'm looking at you Boomer and Simms) are the same ones whoring themselves out now for Draft Kings segments during pregame shows.
 
It's amazing how many things we used to know that we've turned our back on.

Our generation is probably the last that will appreciate the growth of gambling from being a fringe thing relegated to Las Vegas and dingy barstool bookies to the mainstream. It seems this is largely driven by online opportunities, leading to legalization and the dramatic rise of fantasy-adjacent products like DFS that lead to DraftKings and FanDuel skyrocketing to become multi-billion dollar entities seemingly overnight. Sports fans who are my son's age (19) are completely used to being constantly bombarded by gambling marketing, which at times is extremely sophisticated and insidious. Its impossible to follow big sports in any meaningful way - in person, television, through an app, etc. - without near-constant exposure to gambling marketing offers.
 
Why are we singling our sports betting when the world is festooned with gambling choices? Powerball, Megamillions, Lotto, Keno, Video Poker, Casinos have been around and legal here and elsewhere for decades now. What makes this one the proverbial straw?

Going to read the article now to seek an answer to my question. I will say, as a loyal and devoted reader of Peter King's, he warned about legalized sports betting in several of his columns. So I do know others have warned against it publicly, just unclear why people can cash their paychecks at a riverboat casino in Vicksburg since the 90s and I don't remember articles warning of the dangers there.....curious.
 
I don't see how this is really news. We knew before it was legalized that it would lose money for people (that's literally the only reason it exists), lead to more disputes (often physical), etc.

But I guess the question is....so what?

There are a zillion things that exist where we knowingly trade fun or convenience for more death, more sickness, more violence, more financial issues, etc.

You could swap out the word "gambling" for "alcohol" in this article and it would apply 100x over. It's literal poison that directly impacts people's health, causes financial distress, makes them make bad decisions, causes car accidents, causes death, abuse, rape, etc. But it's fun. So we trade all of that stuff for access to it.

Sugar.

Cars.

Roller coasters.

Heck.......FOOTBALL!!
 
Why are we singling our sports betting when the world is festooned with gambling choices? Powerball, Megamillions, Lotto, Keno, Video Poker, Casinos have been around and legal here and elsewhere for decades now. What makes this one the proverbial straw?

Going to read the article now to seek an answer to my question. I will say, as a loyal and devoted reader of Peter King's, he warned about legalized sports betting in several of his columns. So I do know others have warned against it publicly, just unclear why people can cash their paychecks at a riverboat casino in Vicksburg since the 90s and I don't remember articles warning of the dangers there.....curious.
My attempt at a serious answer is that it's because in this case (a) it's in your pocket wherever you go, and (b) you can't watch sports without having it shoved down your throat.

Keep in mind that I have no personal issue with sports gambling. I just see why it's potentially a bigger deal that lottery scratch-offs.
 
The rise in domestic violence is concerning (and sad and gross) but we sure that rate isn't attributed to lock-downs during Covid and not legalized sports betting? How did they reach the conclusion here because DV rates were up 9% coming out of Covid which occurred roughly the same time as many states legalized sports wagering (Oregon for one).
 
The rise in domestic violence is concerning (and sad and gross) but we sure that rate isn't attributed to lock-downs during Covid and not legalized sports betting? How did they reach the conclusion here because DV rates were up 9% coming out of Covid which occurred roughly the same time as many states legalized sports wagering (Oregon for one).
I very strongly suspect that the DV thing is junk science. But the bankruptcy thing isn't. That's the real story here IMO.
 
Why are we singling our sports betting when the world is festooned with gambling choices? Powerball, Megamillions, Lotto, Keno, Video Poker, Casinos have been around and legal here and elsewhere for decades now. What makes this one the proverbial straw?

Going to read the article now to seek an answer to my question. I will say, as a loyal and devoted reader of Peter King's, he warned about legalized sports betting in several of his columns. So I do know others have warned against it publicly, just unclear why people can cash their paychecks at a riverboat casino in Vicksburg since the 90s and I don't remember articles warning of the dangers there.....curious.
My attempt at a serious answer is that it's because in this case (a) it's in your pocket wherever you go, and (b) you can't watch sports without having it shoved down your throat.

Keep in mind that I have no personal issue with sports gambling. I just see why it's potentially a bigger deal that lottery scratch-offs.

Good points but as a counter, horse racing has been available to consumers on their phones for many years prior to widespread sports gambling access and that never really seemed to bother anybody.

But I also acknowledge that's a niche sport and most enthusiasts are older than us and we're old.
 
I don't get why this is singled out. It's another example of people not taking responsibility for themselves. We gotta make gambling illegal because people aren't smart enough not to do it or do it within reason.

Nobody forces anybody to do any of this. Take some personal accountability already. Things like this always irk me.
 
I don't get why this is singled out. It's another example of people not taking responsibility for themselves. We gotta make gambling illegal because people aren't smart enough not to do it or do it within reason.

Nobody forces anybody to do any of this. Take some personal accountability already. Things like this always irk me.

Even when it was "illegal" I bet 75% of the posters on this very website used an off-shore book or a bookie at least once in their lives. The "Wagering" threads in here were robust with activity in the early aughts. Legality never mattered to any of us then, won't matter in the future and it was always easy enough to get a bet down.

Getting paid out, on the other hand......crooks.
 
Yeah I was talking to a guy not to long ago since legalization of at-home/online gambling was on the state ballot. He was against it. I asked him why. "Because people get addicted and can't control it. They'll ruin their lives if it's that easy to do at home." Seemed pretty adamant about it, so I didn't want to engage in a debate and changed the subject. But if that's the reasoning, well, we still have casinos. We also have bars. We also allow people to buy alcohol at a store and bring it home and drink it unsupervised. Should we only sell alcohol where a state-licensed bartender checks everyone's BAC before pouring a drink? End home drinking?

We all enjoy vices. We are allowed to do them unsupervised. Why should this be any different?
 
I live in North Carolina which just legalized online gambling this year. It has been very profitable to me so far. The vast majority of this profit has come from converting bonus bets and other +EV incentives that the books put out. These are essentially marketing expenses meant to get the potential gaming addicts onto their books.

Same thing credit card issuers do. Big difference is that an essential part of the online gambling business model is to limit/ban profitable customers. Very easy to see how someone can get addicted to these things.

An aside on the taxes, I guarantee that compliance with the actual tax is very low. It seems the books inconsistently issue W-2Gs nor do they consistently report the activity on there. My conclusion is that, along with the inability to deduct losses in NC, it is best to file as a professional gambling business.
 
I don't get why this is singled out. It's another example of people not taking responsibility for themselves. We gotta make gambling illegal because people aren't smart enough not to do it or do it within reason.

Nobody forces anybody to do any of this. Take some personal accountability already. Things like this always irk me.

Even when it was "illegal" I bet 75% of the posters on this very website used an off-shore book or a bookie at least once in their lives. The "Wagering" threads in here were robust with activity in the early aughts. Legality never mattered to any of us then, won't matter in the future and it was always easy enough to get a bet down.

Getting paid out, on the other hand......crooks.
Same thing with weed and/or hemp derived substitutes. Living in the future is awesome, but we still need to find ways to protect those have difficulty handling these freedoms safely IMO.
 
I came to terms last July (2023) that I had gambling problem, I don’t want to get into specifics but I’ll just say it was bad and I’m lucky my wife didn’t divorce me. This was mainly on the online casino side of things.

I always gambled fairly irresponsibly but smaller stakes. it going online made it much much easier, especially since you can deposit from your bank, PayPal, Venmo, credit card (some), etc.

Books were always running some promo that I was chasing, and despite some big wins it was never enough for me and I’d go back trying to chase that big win again

At the end of the day though I know it was my own fault. Since then I’ve taken advantage of the responsible gaming tools (monthly deposit limits, max bet of $0.10 on casino games)

I still enjoy getting a few bucks down, but it has definitely improved my quality of life since I put limits in place

Sorry to get off track, but I would definitely recommend people take advantage of the tools out there if they have a similar problem
 
I live in North Carolina which just legalized online gambling this year. It has been very profitable to me so far. The vast majority of this profit has come from converting bonus bets and other +EV incentives that the books put out. These are essentially marketing expenses meant to get the potential gaming addicts onto their books.

Same thing credit card issuers do. Big difference is that an essential part of the online gambling business model is to limit/ban profitable customers. Very easy to see how someone can get addicted to these things.

An aside on the taxes, I guarantee that compliance with the actual tax is very low. It seems the books inconsistently issue W-2Gs nor do they consistently report the activity on there. My conclusion is that, along with the inability to deduct losses in NC, it is best to file as a professional gambling business.

I used to roll bonuses back in the online poker days, was making about $3000 a month in re-load bonuses. Was quite the time, I had 30 accounts at 30 different online poker rooms and would deposit $1000 a day for the 10% deposit bonus, play 10,000 hands of tight poker in four hours or so, depending on the number of tables I'd have open at a time, get a $100 bonus, then cash out. Repeat daily. You could only hit a site once a month so that's why I needed 30. I miss those days, was a good use of my time unemployed.
 
we still need to find ways to protect those have difficulty handling these freedoms safely IMO.
By taking it away from the people that can handle it?
Did I say that?
It was alluded to......"we need to find ways to protect those that have difficulty handling these freedoms safely". The article that started the thread was built on legalizing online sports betting was big mistake insinuating that it should be reversed.
 
joe liked this article so much that he made 2 threads about it.

 
I live in North Carolina which just legalized online gambling this year. It has been very profitable to me so far. The vast majority of this profit has come from converting bonus bets and other +EV incentives that the books put out. These are essentially marketing expenses meant to get the potential gaming addicts onto their books.

Same thing credit card issuers do. Big difference is that an essential part of the online gambling business model is to limit/ban profitable customers. Very easy to see how someone can get addicted to these things.

An aside on the taxes, I guarantee that compliance with the actual tax is very low. It seems the books inconsistently issue W-2Gs nor do they consistently report the activity on there. My conclusion is that, along with the inability to deduct losses in NC, it is best to file as a professional gambling business.

I used to roll bonuses back in the online poker days, was making about $3000 a month in re-load bonuses. Was quite the time, I had 30 accounts at 30 different online poker rooms and would deposit $1000 a day for the 10% deposit bonus, play 10,000 hands of tight poker in four hours or so, depending on the number of tables I'd have open at a time, get a $100 bonus, then cash out. Repeat daily. You could only hit a site once a month so that's why I needed 30. I miss those days, was a good use of my time unemployed.
Yeah. Never got into that, but should have.

When I was between jobs this year I definitely was hitting any edge or arb I could find. My wife was less than enthusiastic about that as a new career though. :lol:
 
I live in North Carolina which just legalized online gambling this year. It has been very profitable to me so far. The vast majority of this profit has come from converting bonus bets and other +EV incentives that the books put out. These are essentially marketing expenses meant to get the potential gaming addicts onto their books.
This is what I did in AZ, cleared something like $4K. Otherwise, I don't really love betting on sports as much as I thought I would. I don't really like the feeling. I used to go to March Madness every year in Vegas with a group of friends, and had a blast betting on the games and being part of the spectacle, but I never really liked putting down a chip on a table game only to watch it disappear in seconds. At least with sports, you could put down $20, laugh and cheer for a couple of hours like you were at a movie and for the same cost - instead unlike a movie you'd get your money back sometimes.

The feeling of clicking on my phone to bet on a game has some sort of anti-dopamine hit for me. Oddly, I've gotten more into fantasy again after years of waning interest, and have enjoyed putting down $5 in DFS every now and then when I never really cared for that. No idea why outside of the fact that it takes hours or even months to lose my money instead of seconds, minutes, or hours.
 
we still need to find ways to protect those have difficulty handling these freedoms safely IMO.
By taking it away from the people that can handle it?
Did I say that?
It was alluded to......"we need to find ways to protect those that have difficulty handling these freedoms safely". The article that started the thread was built on legalizing online sports betting was big mistake insinuating that it should be reversed.
I don't think that admitting there are negative externalities we (governments) should address is alluding to that. To be clear, I would not be in favor of banning either. I'm just not being blind that what I am enjoying (mostly) responsibly could be having broader societal impacts.
 
It’s illegal in CA? Nearly everyone I know that’s into sports gambles in some way or another on their phone. And I’m in CA.
Right now, unless you circumvent the rules and you are able to get on a site like Bovada (and have your credit card let you fund to it), then you cannot bet on games themselves.

The only thing that is "legal" in California is the "over/under" for player props. And you have to parlay at least two legs from differing teams.
 
It’s illegal in CA? Nearly everyone I know that’s into sports gambles in some way or another on their phone. And I’m in CA.
Right now, unless you circumvent the rules and you are able to get on a site like Bovada (and have your credit card let you fund to it), then you cannot bet on games themselves.

The only thing that is "legal" in California is the "over/under" for player props. And you have to parlay at least two legs from differing teams.
So DraftKings and all those don’t allow single bets? Everything must be a parlay? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 no wonder they’re making so much money.
 
It’s illegal in CA? Nearly everyone I know that’s into sports gambles in some way or another on their phone. And I’m in CA.
Right now, unless you circumvent the rules and you are able to get on a site like Bovada (and have your credit card let you fund to it), then you cannot bet on games themselves.

The only thing that is "legal" in California is the "over/under" for player props. And you have to parlay at least two legs from differing teams.
So DraftKings and all those don’t allow single bets? Everything must be a parlay? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 no wonder they’re making so much money.
Draftkings has a few different products. The "Pick 6" product is like what he describes and there is also the main daily fantasy site. Of course, sportsbook and casino depending on jurisdiction.
 
It’s illegal in CA? Nearly everyone I know that’s into sports gambles in some way or another on their phone. And I’m in CA.
Right now, unless you circumvent the rules and you are able to get on a site like Bovada (and have your credit card let you fund to it), then you cannot bet on games themselves.

The only thing that is "legal" in California is the "over/under" for player props. And you have to parlay at least two legs from differing teams.
So DraftKings and all those don’t allow single bets? Everything must be a parlay? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 no wonder they’re making so much money.
Right, you can't take JUST Josh Allen to throw for over 240 yards or whatever. You have to parlay it with a player prop from another team.

And definitely can't take BUF -4.5 or whatever. It's all player prop related and you have to multi-team parlay.

It's maddening. I will get SO close to hitting a nice big one and I'll be off by 10 yards or something stupid.

I'll definitely be putting in a little $5 parlay tonight just to make things more interesting.
 
It’s illegal in CA? Nearly everyone I know that’s into sports gambles in some way or another on their phone. And I’m in CA.
Right now, unless you circumvent the rules and you are able to get on a site like Bovada (and have your credit card let you fund to it), then you cannot bet on games themselves.

The only thing that is "legal" in California is the "over/under" for player props. And you have to parlay at least two legs from differing teams.
So DraftKings and all those don’t allow single bets? Everything must be a parlay? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 no wonder they’re making so much money.
Right, you can't take JUST Josh Allen to throw for over 240 yards or whatever. You have to parlay it with a player prop from another team.

And definitely can't take BUF -4.5 or whatever. It's all player prop related and you have to multi-team parlay.

It's maddening. I will get SO close to hitting a nice big one and I'll be off by 10 yards or something stupid.

I'll definitely be putting in a little $5 parlay tonight just to make things more interesting.
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. 😂😂😂😂. Not you having fun, the parlays only bit. . I had a bookie with a website around 15 years ago. Zero issues making regular bets. Other than losing. 😂😂😂. I haven’t really bet since.
 
I have spoken to many of my gambling friends and we all saw this coming as the new epic epidemic in our country.

Not only that….if you thought players and officials were compromised before…..we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg now with legalized sports gambling.

I can’t stand the constant in your face BS of hey bet this….instant odds on a prop, parlay this, parlay that.

It’s just like how fantasy football got watered down, exploited and IMO ruined.

It’s so out of control and has infested NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL broadcasts….NFL is the worst though by far with their embracement of all the gambling…..it’s truly amazing.

I have been gambling on sports
Since I was 13. My dad was my first bookie. He taught me the way. I have plenty of discipline and know my limits.

But most people don’t and now the pandoras box has been opened and it won’t be shut. We are going to see the amount of lives ruined X’s 1000 now that your next bet is a tap away on the app on your smart phone.

Buckle up…..and get ready for a lot of greed, point shaving and dirty players and yes officials etc….the storm is coming.

Thanks. Agreed not everyone has the learning experience you had. Can you offer some insights or tips you've seen to be effective in gambling responsibly?
It’s really understanding your limits and realizing this is entertainment and only entertainment.

I deposit $500 into my account at the start of the season.

Once or if that’s gone….that’s it for the season.

Stay away from exotic bets, crazy multi team parlays etc.

Pick your top game in college
for the week and top game for the pros.

Bet them and enjoy those two games.

If you want to parlay them then go ahead. I would even do a 3 team sweetheart teaser if I have three games I love and manipulate the spread +/- 10 points.

I also love futures. I place 4 futures every year to win the Super Bowl. 2 in each conference. I then get to root for those 4 teams all season.

My dad set a limit for me. Down a $100 I had to pay, up a $100 I was paid.

When I hit a big bet….I cash it
Out and get my account to my original limit.

It’s discipline. And not risking what I can’t afford to lose.

Unfortunately a lot of people have no self control and also get very greedy and think this is a viable way to earn easy money.

I invest my serious money in the market and gamble my entertainment budget.

It’s really all about setting limits, buying into the concept of “this is strictly entertainment and I fully expect to lose all this money” and if I win it’s a bonus.

I realize there are “professional” handicappers etc…..but if they hit on 55-60% they are doing really well.
 

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