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Assume Deshaun Foster *IS* the starter... (1 Viewer)

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I think if Deshaun is indeed the starter in Carolina this year he could represent one of the best values in the entire draft. Consider that before the rumor was leaked that he will start the season he was being drafted in the 9th round in the MFL leagues. That's pretty good value as your RB3 or RB4.

So where to target him now? That is the question...

 
It's not that absurd to assume what's always been. He doesn't appear to be that good but he IS the starter. If you can get him in the ninth round or later that is some good value.

 
His ADP is 9.05, whereas DeWill's is 3.12, so anywhere in the 9th or later would be great value. He could be a decent fill in player.

 
My point is that he WAS being drafted in the 9th before this rumor leaked. So now that more people are aware of his role how far up do you think he jumps (if any?)

In other words what is the absolute latest you think he'll be available now? Or is it the same as before?

 
My point is that he WAS being drafted in the 9th before this rumor leaked. So now that more people are aware of his role how far up do you think he jumps (if any?)In other words what is the absolute latest you think he'll be available now? Or is it the same as before?
*My* point is that he's BEEN the starter. He was the starter last year and the only people who thought he WOULDN'T start this season were DeAngelo bandwagoneers. I doubt this rumor/fact will change his draft position very much. DeShaun hasn't been overly impressive in his NFL career so despite the fact he is the starter people are dismissing him. I still think you should be able to get him in the ninth round or later.
 
My point is that he WAS being drafted in the 9th before this rumor leaked. So now that more people are aware of his role how far up do you think he jumps (if any?)In other words what is the absolute latest you think he'll be available now? Or is it the same as before?
*My* point is that he's BEEN the starter. He was the starter last year and the only people who thought he WOULDN'T start this season were DeAngelo bandwagoneers. I doubt this rumor/fact will change his draft position very much. DeShaun hasn't been overly impressive in his NFL career so despite the fact he is the starter people are dismissing him. I still think you should be able to get him in the ninth round or later.
Gotcha. From what I have been reading the new blocking scheme should really help Foster's running style. And I think that the Panthers bounce back to form this year.
 
Gotcha. From what I have been reading the new blocking scheme should really help Foster's running style. And I think that the Panthers bounce back to form this year.
Foster could be a bargain but he has two major things going against him.1- He is as durable as glass2- At best, he is sharing touches.In a 12 teamer, he is bye week material at this point.
 
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Foster could be a bargain but he has two major things going against him.1- He is as durable as glass2- At best, he is sharing touches.In a 12 teamer, he is bye week material at this point.
1. And Williams can't block worth a ####. 2. Williams consistently has been getting stuffed at the line.Williams isn't starting for a reason. Besides, let them share touches - that's fine. I'm happy with that in my 9th round RB3/RB4.
 
Foster could be a bargain but he has two major things going against him.1- He is as durable as glass2- At best, he is sharing touches.In a 12 teamer, he is bye week material at this point.
1. And Williams can't block worth a ####. 2. Williams consistently has been getting stuffed at the line.Williams isn't starting for a reason. Besides, let them share touches - that's fine. I'm happy with that in my 9th round RB3/RB4.
If the point isthey both stink, I agree with you but if you think Foster is going to provide 4th to 5th round value as a 9th rounder, I think youre reaching.
 
I think a 4th/5th is a little too high. But 7th round value is very realistic, imo. I'm happy at this point with him as my RB3.

 
I think if Deshaun is indeed the starter in Carolina this year he could represent one of the best values in the entire draft. Consider that before the rumor was leaked that he will start the season he was being drafted in the 9th round in the MFL leagues. That's pretty good value as your RB3 or RB4.So where to target him now? That is the question...
His absolute ceiling is around RB 30. While not bad, I would want someone with more upside than that. Also his ADP will climb its way up to the 5th or 6th round.
 
My point is that he WAS being drafted in the 9th before this rumor leaked. So now that more people are aware of his role how far up do you think he jumps (if any?)In other words what is the absolute latest you think he'll be available now? Or is it the same as before?
*My* point is that he's BEEN the starter. He was the starter last year and the only people who thought he WOULDN'T start this season were DeAngelo bandwagoneers. I doubt this rumor/fact will change his draft position very much. DeShaun hasn't been overly impressive in his NFL career so despite the fact he is the starter people are dismissing him. I still think you should be able to get him in the ninth round or later.
Gotcha. From what I have been reading the new blocking scheme should really help Foster's running style. And I think that the Panthers bounce back to form this year.
I agree with you. I think a lot of people forget how decimated the Panthers OLine was last year in the preseason. And all the other injuries on offense i.e. Steve Smith. DeShaun Foster may not be world beater, but I think, assuming there aren't the rash of injuries that there were last season, he will be rather effective.But let everyone focus on how average Foster was last year and forget how mangled then entire Panthers offense was. He'll slide way down the draft board and be a nice mid round value.
 
I like DeShaun's value but I'm ONLY happy with him on my roster as an RB4, not an RB3.
Me too. I put him in the same category as Fred Taylor. He is the "starter" but is still going to share a fair number of touches with another RB in the backfield. It would be nice to have him as insurance as RB4 in the 8th/9th round in a 12-teamer but that's about it.
 
2- At best, he is sharing touches.
Here's the thing. In 5 years in CAR, Fox has opted to go with a primary back and most everyone else as backups. Over that time frame, the primary ball carrier in CAR has averaged almost 21.5 touches a game (even though there have been a lot of backs in that time). Fox up until now HAS NOT used a RBBC approach, so I am not so sure that Williams will get the touches that many people think he will if Foster is healthy (which may not be very long).
 
ADP data from Antsports has Deshaun consistently being drafted as the #40-43 RB off the board (7 data points over the last 7 weeks). In my league that equates to 10th round value.

However according to Antsports, again, DFoster's draft position has a standard deviation of 9.56, which means some people are drafting him as high as the #30 RB off the board (7th round in my league).

Personally I have him as the #28 RB (6th round), ahead of DWilliams #31.

I could see a situation where I take him in the 6th or 7th.

 
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His past ADP is useless info at this point. With with the word out that he is the starter his ADP will go up, and DWilliams down. He will go in standard RB3 territory in most leagues. 6th/7th round.

 
His past ADP is useless info at this point. With with the word out that he is the starter his ADP will go up, and DWilliams down. He will go in standard RB3 territory in most leagues. 6th/7th round.
I think people are overestimating the impact of this announcement. I think it will have a minimal impact on ADP. I have spent the offseason assuming DFoster is the guy until Fox says otherwise, I doubt I am the only one. I think there will be the same number of people willing to doubt DFoster and believe that DWill is a better player who will get opportunities with either through injury or attrition.The unwashed masses love their upside guys to much to let this announcement impact their decision making.
 
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