Assuming both Fitz and Q are healthy. (1 Viewer)

[Eminence]

Assuming both are healthy, can Boldin have a better season than Fitzgerald?

 

[Avery]

Is Fitzgerald healthy too?

 

[Eminence]

Is Fitzgerald healthy too?

Ha. In this sceanario yes we assume he is. Darn Boldin and his injury-prone nature.

 

[amphibianbri]

I say no. Even with Boldin being brought in as a #1, Flacco still has a certain amount of comfort with Mason and Rice will get his. Even with Leinart, Fitzgerald is going to get a ton of targets (probably even more). I think Fitz is still worth at least 1100 and double digit scores. Boldin has no chance at hitting those numbers in my opinion

 

[bigmiiiiike]

Of course there's a chance. I'd say there is a 75% chance that Fitz finishes with a better year, and 25% chance for Boldin to come out on top. For Boldin to do so, he'll probably have to maximize on his opportunities for long scores and big plays (think Desean Jackson, Vincent Jackson, and Nicks from '09), and Leinart/Anderson will have to really struggle. It could certainly happen, but I'd be more comfortable using a late 1st on Fitz than I would be using a late 3rd on Boldin.

 

[r3t2]

i suppose fitz could be kidnapped or retire. otherwise, no.

 

[Creed Bratton]

i suppose fitz could be kidnapped or retire. otherwise, no.

I understand that Fitzgerald is probably the most talented receiver in the league, but I don't really get the overwhelming opinion that it would be shocking for Boldin to put up a better season. Boldin isn't some scrub, he's had multiple 1200 yard seasons. I think Fitzgerald does better, but I don't think it's a lock barring kidnapping.

 

[HoleFiller]

i suppose fitz could be kidnapped or retire. otherwise, no.

I understand that Fitzgerald is probably the most talented receiver in the league, but I don't really get the overwhelming opinion that it would be shocking for Boldin to put up a better season. Boldin isn't some scrub, he's had multiple 1200 yard seasons. I think Fitzgerald does better, but I don't think it's a lock barring kidnapping.

Boldin is not a touchdown guy, he just isn't. And Fitzgerald is one of if not the best TD guy in the league right now. Fitz will have many more targets than Boldin will which will most likely result in more catches and yards as well. I do think it would be overwhelmingly shocking if Boldin has a better year than Fitzgerald.

 

[Creed Bratton]

i suppose fitz could be kidnapped or retire. otherwise, no.

I understand that Fitzgerald is probably the most talented receiver in the league, but I don't really get the overwhelming opinion that it would be shocking for Boldin to put up a better season. Boldin isn't some scrub, he's had multiple 1200 yard seasons. I think Fitzgerald does better, but I don't think it's a lock barring kidnapping.

Boldin is not a touchdown guy, he just isn't. And Fitzgerald is one of if not the best TD guy in the league right now. Fitz will have many more targets than Boldin will which will most likely result in more catches and yards as well. I do think it would be overwhelmingly shocking if Boldin has a better year than Fitzgerald.

I understand all that but I still wouldn't classify Boldin edging out Fitz as shocking. Randy Moss's rookie season was shocking to me, not the prospect of a 3 time pro bowler outperforming Fitzgerald. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be down on Fitzgerald or high on Boldin so much as trying to be aware that much, much stranger things have happened in the NFL.

 

[cr8f]

I say no. Even with Boldin being brought in as a #1, Flacco still has a certain amount of comfort with Mason and Rice will get his. Even with Leinart, Fitzgerald is going to get a ton of targets (probably even more). I think Fitz is still worth at least 1100 and double digit scores. Boldin has no chance at hitting those numbers in my opinion

Targets yes but will the football be close to his hands?

 

[Avery]

I say no. Even with Boldin being brought in as a #1, Flacco still has a certain amount of comfort with Mason and Rice will get his. Even with Leinart, Fitzgerald is going to get a ton of targets (probably even more). I think Fitz is still worth at least 1100 and double digit scores. Boldin has no chance at hitting those numbers in my opinion

Targets yes but will the football be close to his hands?

It matters less with Fitz than most any receiver in the NFL.Just get it to his general area and he's out jump, out muscle, and out effort all the DBs in the area.He's that good.

 

[r3t2]

I say no. Even with Boldin being brought in as a #1, Flacco still has a certain amount of comfort with Mason and Rice will get his. Even with Leinart, Fitzgerald is going to get a ton of targets (probably even more). I think Fitz is still worth at least 1100 and double digit scores. Boldin has no chance at hitting those numbers in my opinion

Targets yes but will the football be close to his hands?

It matters less with Fitz than most any receiver in the NFL.Just get it to his general area and he's out jump, out muscle, and out effort all the DBs in the area.He's that good.

when leinart was the starter earlier in his career, in their first 13 games together fitz went 78 rec. 1038 yds, 5 TDs. certainly not exhaustive by any means, but i dont see any reason those numbers would get worse. i saw fitz come down with the ball in triple-coverage again and again in college and even in the pros. no one tracks the ball like him, no one high-points like him, and he's extremely tough to move off the ball. i think we all respect boldin around here, not only for his productivity but also for the way he plays. but larry is a transcendent player and may end up in 2nd place in every major receiving category before all is said and done. i just don't see any reason to bet on Q.

 

[FUBAR]

The only year Boldin put up better stats than Fitz was 2006 where Fitz missed 3 games.

Unless you think Flacco is much better than Leinart and he'll throw more I don't think it's possible.

FWIW I do think Flacco is better than Leinart but I don't think either team changes their offensive philosophy enough to give Flacco more attempts - although it will be closer than it was with Warner.

 

[LawFitz]

It's certainly possible given Boldin new surroundings. Even though they are a running team, they have a terrific young QB. If the running game or defense struggles, Flacco is capable or airing it.

The same is hard to say for Leinart.

 

[Nagle2998]

I think something that has been left out is the schedule that Fitz plays compared to the one that Boldin plays. Fitz migh be in the weakest division in football and he also gets to play against the AFC West which might be the 2nd weakest. The only worry I have about Fitz is the Qb is awful and the back up QB might be worse.

 

[zed2283]

Is everyone forgetting that just two years ago Boldin almost went wire-to-wire as the #1 fantasy WR? And that included the games he missed after getting blown up in the Jets game. Fitz and maybe A.Johnson caught him in the final couple of weeks.

 

[ATC1]

Injury aside Boldin is good value and Fitz is a little too high for my tastes. Too many new questions surrounding the Arizona passing attack. Sure Fitz will get his catches, but i don't think he YAC will be as high with Leinart.

I need a historical stats guy. What have previous year Top Fantasy WRs done the following year when a first year starter is introduced the next season? Is there a steady decline?

 

[kutta]

i suppose fitz could be kidnapped or retire. otherwise, no.

I understand that Fitzgerald is probably the most talented receiver in the league, but I don't really get the overwhelming opinion that it would be shocking for Boldin to put up a better season. Boldin isn't some scrub, he's had multiple 1200 yard seasons. I think Fitzgerald does better, but I don't think it's a lock barring kidnapping.

Boldin is not a touchdown guy, he just isn't. And Fitzgerald is one of if not the best TD guy in the league right now. Fitz will have many more targets than Boldin will which will most likely result in more catches and yards as well. I do think it would be overwhelmingly shocking if Boldin has a better year than Fitzgerald.

While I agree that Fitz is a TD machine, I don't think it's fair to classify Boldin as "not a touchdown guy." On the list of active WR's in the league, no one younger than Boldin has more TDs than him except Fitz. And it is even more impressive when you see how many games Boldin has missed. link

 

[David Yudkin]

Highest TD per game played production since 2003 (minimum 10 games played):

Randy Moss 0.83

Terrell Owens 0.73

Marvin Harrison 0.67

Larry Fitzgerald 0.64

Marques Colston 0.58

Reggie Wayne 0.53

Steve Smith 0.52

Chad Ochocinco 0.51

Plaxico Burress 0.5

Hines Ward 0.48

Greg Jennings 0.47

Anquan Boldin 0.47

Torry Holt 0.47

Calvin Johnson 0.47

Javon Walker 0.44

Austin Collie 0.44

Roy Williams 0.44

T.J. Houshmandzadeh 0.43

Hakeem Nicks 0.43

Darrell Jackson 0.42

Chris Chambers 0.41

Andre Johnson 0.41

Marcus Robinson 0.41

Braylon Edwards 0.41

Brandon Marshall 0.41

Joe Horn 0.41

Lee Evans 0.41

Percy Harvin 0.4

Robert Meachem 0.4

Santana Moss 0.39

 

[FUBAR]

Is everyone forgetting that just two years ago Boldin almost went wire-to-wire as the #1 fantasy WR? And that included the games he missed after getting blown up in the Jets game. Fitz and maybe A.Johnson caught him in the final couple of weeks.

2008 Boldin had a lot of nice games but finished closer to 7th in my PPR leagues. He missed 4 games but was the top guy per game. Nobody is denying his talent.

 

[(unwelcomed)GUEST]

Highest TD per game played production since 2003 (minimum 10 games played):Randy Moss 0.83Terrell Owens 0.73Marvin Harrison 0.67Larry Fitzgerald 0.64Marques Colston 0.58Reggie Wayne 0.53Steve Smith 0.52Chad Ochocinco 0.51Plaxico Burress 0.5Hines Ward 0.48Greg Jennings 0.47Anquan Boldin 0.47Torry Holt 0.47Calvin Johnson 0.47Javon Walker 0.44Austin Collie 0.44Roy Williams 0.44T.J. Houshmandzadeh 0.43Hakeem Nicks 0.43Darrell Jackson 0.42Chris Chambers 0.41Andre Johnson 0.41Marcus Robinson 0.41Braylon Edwards 0.41Brandon Marshall 0.41Joe Horn 0.41Lee Evans 0.41Percy Harvin 0.4Robert Meachem 0.4Santana Moss 0.39

That is an AWESOME stat, where did u get it (source), if I may ask? Also, can you look at different time table like over past three seasons. Do they have the same stats for QBs, TEs, RBs...again great statistic for TD heavy/non PPR leagues.

 

[Team Canada]

i suppose fitz could be kidnapped or retire. otherwise, no.

I understand that Fitzgerald is probably the most talented receiver in the league, but I don't really get the overwhelming opinion that it would be shocking for Boldin to put up a better season. Boldin isn't some scrub, he's had multiple 1200 yard seasons. I think Fitzgerald does better, but I don't think it's a lock barring kidnapping.

Boldin is not a touchdown guy, he just isn't. And Fitzgerald is one of if not the best TD guy in the league right now. Fitz will have many more targets than Boldin will which will most likely result in more catches and yards as well. I do think it would be overwhelmingly shocking if Boldin has a better year than Fitzgerald.

Boldin is not a td guy? Are you crazy? Taking out the games not started for Boldin anf Fitz and averaging out for a full 16 game season Boldin is a 7.57 TD per season guy and Fitz is a 10.26. Not such a huge gap.Now with Boldin the Ds need to respect Rice more than Wells and Hightower. Teams can game plan better against Wells or Hightower and double Fitz. I like Flaco better than Leinart.Supporting WRs similar in both.I'm not making an argument to draft Boldin over Fitz, but given the context of this question it's not a far reach for me. Both are gamers and Boldin could pull it off.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Zona is going to turn into a running team with Wells and Hightower, so there'll be less passing attempts. Fitz is gong to be doubled or tripled all game long... yeah hes going to see more targets but I'm worried that his production is going to go down by a good margin.

Q is being brought in as a #1 but hes more of 1a. Mason will still see plenty of targets... Rice I think will take a hurting, no way is he going to catch 80 again; i expect that # to get cut in half. I would be surprised if Fitz and Q finish close to each.

 

[David Yudkin]

Highest TD per game played production since 2003 (minimum 10 games played):Randy Moss 0.83Terrell Owens 0.73Marvin Harrison 0.67Larry Fitzgerald 0.64Marques Colston 0.58Reggie Wayne 0.53Steve Smith 0.52Chad Ochocinco 0.51Plaxico Burress 0.5Hines Ward 0.48Greg Jennings 0.47Anquan Boldin 0.47Torry Holt 0.47Calvin Johnson 0.47Javon Walker 0.44Austin Collie 0.44Roy Williams 0.44T.J. Houshmandzadeh 0.43Hakeem Nicks 0.43Darrell Jackson 0.42Chris Chambers 0.41Andre Johnson 0.41Marcus Robinson 0.41Braylon Edwards 0.41Brandon Marshall 0.41Joe Horn 0.41Lee Evans 0.41Percy Harvin 0.4Robert Meachem 0.4Santana Moss 0.39

That is an AWESOME stat, where did u get it (source), if I may ask? Also, can you look at different time table like over past three seasons. Do they have the same stats for QBs, TEs, RBs...again great statistic for TD heavy/non PPR leagues.

The FBG Historical Data Dominator will let you enter many combinations of statistics sorted by year, totals of years, etc. and divide as well. So you could search by total fantasy points over the past 3 sesaons by TE and divide by games played if you wanted.Or you could look up total receptions by all WR in the NFL (since 1960) at the age of 28. Or 32. Or by season. Or by the last 2 seasons. Or the last 20 seasons.It's a nifty little tool.

 

[(unwelcomed)GUEST]

Highest TD per game played production since 2003 (minimum 10 games played):Randy Moss 0.83Terrell Owens 0.73Marvin Harrison 0.67Larry Fitzgerald 0.64Marques Colston 0.58Reggie Wayne 0.53Steve Smith 0.52Chad Ochocinco 0.51Plaxico Burress 0.5Hines Ward 0.48Greg Jennings 0.47Anquan Boldin 0.47Torry Holt 0.47Calvin Johnson 0.47Javon Walker 0.44Austin Collie 0.44Roy Williams 0.44T.J. Houshmandzadeh 0.43Hakeem Nicks 0.43Darrell Jackson 0.42Chris Chambers 0.41Andre Johnson 0.41Marcus Robinson 0.41Braylon Edwards 0.41Brandon Marshall 0.41Joe Horn 0.41Lee Evans 0.41Percy Harvin 0.4Robert Meachem 0.4Santana Moss 0.39

That is an AWESOME stat, where did u get it (source), if I may ask? Also, can you look at different time table like over past three seasons. Do they have the same stats for QBs, TEs, RBs...again great statistic for TD heavy/non PPR leagues.

The FBG Historical Data Dominator will let you enter many combinations of statistics sorted by year, totals of years, etc. and divide as well. So you could search by total fantasy points over the past 3 sesaons by TE and divide by games played if you wanted.Or you could look up total receptions by all WR in the NFL (since 1960) at the age of 28. Or 32. Or by season. Or by the last 2 seasons. Or the last 20 seasons.It's a nifty little tool.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Please stop with the triple-coverage stuff. Breaston and Doucet are going to demand coverage.