Atomic Punk's Mock Draft - Version 2 (1 Viewer)

[cstu]

I was really enjoying the mock until I read Dallas taking a WR in the first.

There is no doubt that Dallas needs more youth at WR. Jackson is the top rated WR in the draft. But as long as Parcells is in control (or at least has a major say), there's no way in hell that Dallas drafts a WR in the first.

Here is a direct quote from Parcells from his press conference on December 29th: "I think taking wide receivers real high is risky." When asked for an explanation, he added, "Well, because… I’ve seen. Well, first of all you’ve have more options at that position, usually. And um….. I mean I’ve seen a lot of guys that don’t play very good. That position Just take a look around at the last couple of drafts. Guys get taken first and not playing very good. And then of course there are others taken very high like Fitzgerald that are playing real good. So, got to be lucky there."

So what this means is that if Dallas takes a WR, it is later on in the draft. Parcells firmly believes you can find good WRs late. And early WRs have a high bust rate, according to Tuna.

What Tuna does have a strong propensity to do is draft Defensive front seven guys in the first. His teams have drafted there more often in the first than any other positions.

The current Dallas team has needs at OLB and NT in the front seven. I don't think there is value at NT at 18. So that leaves OLB. At 18, Lawson and Carpenter are still on your board and are the most likely draft candidates for Dallas.

Lawson, in particular, would make an exceptional bookend to Ware. Both of these guys pose a substantial threat to an offense. That would make teams guess which of these two beasts is blitzing on every particular down. That threat really opens up a lot of options for the Dallas defense to cause confusion and chaos. And thats why I think Dallas goes OLB at 18, with Lawson being #1 on the list of candidates.

It fits the combination of value, need, and historical tendencies. In contrast, WR only has need and perhaps value. It goes in total contravention of historical tendencies.

While I think Lawson makes the most sense, #18 isn't that high of a pick for the #1 WR in the draft at a need position. If Parcells likes what he sees in Jackson, I wouldn't be surprised if he's drafted by the Cowboys.

 

[pgreenfan]

I was really enjoying the mock until I read Dallas taking a WR in the first. 

There is no doubt that Dallas needs more youth at WR.  Jackson is the top rated WR in the draft.  But as long as Parcells is in control (or at least has a major say), there's no way in hell that Dallas drafts a WR in the first.

Here is a direct quote from Parcells from his press conference on December 29th:  "I think taking wide receivers real high is risky."  When asked for an explanation, he added, "Well, because… I’ve seen. Well, first of all you’ve have more options at that position, usually. And um….. I mean I’ve seen a lot of guys that don’t play very good. That position Just take a look around at the last couple of drafts. Guys get taken first and not playing very good. And then of course there are others taken very high like Fitzgerald that are playing real good. So, got to be lucky there."

So what this means is that if Dallas takes a WR, it is later on in the draft.  Parcells firmly believes you can find good WRs late.  And early WRs have a high bust rate, according to Tuna.

What Tuna does have a strong propensity to do is draft Defensive front seven guys in the first.  His teams have drafted there more often in the first than any other positions. 

The current Dallas team has needs at OLB and NT in the front seven.  I don't think there is value at NT at 18.  So that leaves OLB.  At 18, Lawson and Carpenter are still on your board and are the most likely draft candidates for Dallas. 

Lawson, in particular, would make an exceptional bookend to Ware.  Both of these guys pose a substantial threat to an offense.  That would make teams guess which of these two beasts is blitzing on every particular down.  That threat really opens up a lot of options for the Dallas defense to cause confusion and chaos.  And thats why I think Dallas goes OLB at 18, with Lawson being #1 on the list of candidates.

It fits the combination of value, need, and historical tendencies.  In contrast, WR only has need and perhaps value.  It goes in total contravention of historical tendencies.

While I think Lawson makes the most sense, #18 isn't that high of a pick for the #1 WR in the draft at a need position. If Parcells likes what he sees in Jackson, I wouldn't be surprised if he's drafted by the Cowboys.

I agree that Chad Jackson to the Cowboys at #18 wouldn't be a shock, and as I said as a Cowboys fan I would have no problem with it at all.

 

[Atomic Punk]

The Saints are in love with M. Williams, so I see him going to N.O.  I like the Minnesota trade

Why? How do you know this?Which one of Will Smith and Charles Grant would they want to send to the bench?

And why? Both are very good pass rushers and above average DEs in the NFL, who are both making pretty good money.

So much so that they let former Pro Bowler Darren Howard walk with no compensation.

I had heard the Mario Williams to NO rumors as well, but I agree that it isn't the smartest move. The Saints have a history of drafting BPA regardless. They took McAllister with Ricky on board and W. Smith with C. Grant and Howard already on the roster, so it wouldn't be out of the question.I think the talk is more about cranking up the value of the #2 pick.

 

[Atomic Punk]

The Rams drafted a CB in the 2nd, a S in the 3rd, and a S in the 4th last year. In FA, they signed Chavous to replace Archuleta plus Brown to probably start at CB. Their best CB (Butler) will be back after missing the entire year with an injury.

So, why do you have them drafting not only Huff in the 1st, but also Bing in the 2nd?

Fakhir Brown is definitely not the answer and Butler and Fisher both were on injured reserve at the end of the season. From what I've read, the verdict is still out on their 2005 draft picks. Bartell was their 2nd round pick last year and he may be better suited for safety than CB. Atogwe may be a find but Carter didn't show much in his few appearance.It may not be their biggest needs but both Huff and Bing represented excellent value when the Rams were up to draft.

I'm leaning towards Huff being gone by the time the Rams pick in my next version, so the pick will likely change.

 

[Atomic Punk]

I like this mock. Good job. I'd love to see the Lions trade down, and having them take a LB is spot on. OL, LB, and secondary are their biggest needs and if Winston Justice is gone then their best options would be to draft Huff or to trade down.

Thanks. The driver for the trade was not that Detroit wanted to move down, but that Denver was offering them an additional 2nd and they could still fill a big need at #15. If there is one trade that I am seriously considering going back on, it is this one. Huff would be really hard to pass up for the Lions if he is there at #9.

 

[Atomic Punk]

36. Green Bay Packers – Kelly Jennings, CB

A typical Thompson reach. The Pack could also go for OG David Joseph.

What means this? Are you refering to Nick Collins?

Nick Collins is decent but was a reach at #51. Terrence Murphy at #58 would be another and lets not forget B.J. Sander.

 

[Atomic Punk]

Why would the 49ers pass on Huff to trade down, just to trade back up and get Jimmy williams? Makes absolutely no sense.

I'm liking this one a little less now, but there were two main reasons:1. It allows them to drop down and save signing bonus money, something that SF has been rumored to be concerned about.

2. It gives them ammo in the form of an additional 2nd to move up into the late 1st and grab another solid talent at LB.

Jimmy Williams has given some warning signs of being trouble. Nolan and the 49ers are more likely to shy away from anyone with the hint of stink on them. This more than anything is making me think this isn't the best fit.

 

[J R]

Fakhir Brown is definitely not the answer and Butler and Fisher both were on injured reserve at the end of the season. From what I've read, the verdict is still out on their 2005 draft picks. Bartell was their 2nd round pick last year and he may be better suited for safety than CB. Atogwe may be a find but Carter didn't show much in his few appearance.It may not be their biggest needs but both Huff and Bing represented excellent value when the Rams were up to draft.I'm leaning towards Huff being gone by the time the Rams pick in my next version, so the pick will likely change.

I can see a Huff pick based on BPA argument.But now look at your argument above. You refer to the mention in a recent article that Bartell could be moved to S in order to defend your mock of 2 S's to the Rams in the first 2 rounds. How many do they really need? Now you've got the Rams roster with Chavous, Bartell, Atogwe, Carter, Huff, and Bing at S. Meanwhile they basically have only 4 DL (or less) that are any good at all.Also, the Rams fired their HC, not their GM, which would seem to mean that there's nothing wrong with last year's draft picks, but rather the coaching. I disagree with that and that's how I could see a case made for your picks, but I am in the minority there so I don't assume you share my opinion, and that's another argument altogether....