Bad news for anyone that jump on D Ward (1 Viewer)

[KellysHeroes]

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Brandon Jacobs walked without a limp or wrap on his right knee in the locker room Wednesday. He is listed as out for Week 2.

Jacobs claims he'll be able to run by next week. "It sure won't be five weeks," Jacobs said of the time he'll miss. Sprained MCLs usually take at least a few weeks to return from, but this is a good early indication for Jacobs owners.

Madison Hedgecock-RB- Giants Sep. 12 - 5:44 pm et

Giants claimed FB Madison Hedgecock off waivers from the Rams and released FB Robert Douglas.

Hedgecock is a true lead blocker, which New York had been lacking. He'll likely take some time to get used to the Giants' offense, but Hedgecock's addition should free up Reuben Droughns to see more action at tailback with Brandon Jacobs (MCL) injured. It's not great news for Derrick Ward.

 

[gregjcross]

I predict he doesnt play for at least two weeks.

All from RotoBrandon Jacobs walked without a limp or wrap on his right knee in the locker room Wednesday. He is listed as out for Week 2.Jacobs claims he'll be able to run by next week. "It sure won't be five weeks," Jacobs said of the time he'll miss. Sprained MCLs usually take at least a few weeks to return from, but this is a good early indication for Jacobs owners.Madison Hedgecock-RB- Giants Sep. 12 - 5:44 pm et Giants claimed FB Madison Hedgecock off waivers from the Rams and released FB Robert Douglas.Hedgecock is a true lead blocker, which New York had been lacking. He'll likely take some time to get used to the Giants' offense, but Hedgecock's addition should free up Reuben Droughns to see more action at tailback with Brandon Jacobs (MCL) injured. It's not great news for Derrick Ward.

 

[mad sweeney]

Did Droughns do well enough to garner more reps from Ward? If they moved Ruby to FB and had Ward as the b/u doesnt that just make Droughns the backup along with Bradshaw who also looked pretty good in pre-season. I didn't pay any extra attention to the Giants preseason but I don't see that this affects Ward much at all, at least for the few weeks he's the starter.

 

[MaddHatter]

People shouldn't be sweating this IMHO.

 

[ELI2TYREE]

Giant fan here - Ward will still be the main guy imho...

 

[TommyGilmore]

Please change the headline to "Good news to anyone who missed out on D. Ward the first time around".

The sooner Jacobs comes back, the sooner he gets injured again.

 

[To commish is my wish]

Please change the headline to "Good news to anyone who missed out on D. Ward the first time around". The sooner Jacobs comes back, the sooner he gets injured again.

Yeah, what leads us to believe BJ doesn't get hurt again when he comes back, regardless of when it is? He lasted what, a quarter and a half?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

So is everyone that went down in week 1 injury prone now? Just asking

 

[Gannz]

Please change the headline to "Good news to anyone who missed out on D. Ward the first time around". The sooner Jacobs comes back, the sooner he gets injured again.

Yeah, what leads us to believe BJ doesn't get hurt again when he comes back, regardless of when it is? He lasted what, a quarter and a half?

Exactly what I was thinking. I'll hang onto Ward.

 

[Irish]

Please change the headline to "Good news to anyone who missed out on D. Ward the first time around". The sooner Jacobs comes back, the sooner he gets injured again.

Yeah, what leads us to believe BJ doesn't get hurt again when he comes back, regardless of when it is? He lasted what, a quarter and a half?

Exactly what I was thinking. I'll hang onto Ward.

Yeah because Ward has lit up the NFL since coming into the league.

 

[Gannz]

So is everyone that went down in week 1 injury prone now? Just asking

Just the freaks of nature. Remember Bo Jackson? It's not natural to be that big, fast, and agile. There has to be a weak link somewhere.

 

[Tenacious]

YES!!!!!

I traded him today in a multi player deal. WHEW! I had this gut feeling that I needed to get rid of him while he still had any value.

 

[PahtyTom]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ward keeps the starting job and relegates Jacobs to the same role he had last year.

 

[Pooch]

So is everyone that went down in week 1 injury prone now? Just asking

Just the freaks of nature. Remember Bo Jackson? It's not natural to be that big, fast, and agile. There has to be a weak link somewhere.

Bo Jackson was about 6'1" and 227. ya, a real freak of nature.

 

[Tenacious]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ward keeps the starting job and relegates Jacobs to the same role he had last year.

I think it's too early to tell what in the world Ward will do. It could easily go either way. We could just as easily see him getting 2 carries a game by week 5.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ward keeps the starting job and relegates Jacobs to the same role he had last year.

Because Ward is the 2nd coming of Tiki Barber; right.Any player... big or small, can get injuried on any play. And from what I saw... BJ look great. I believe he'll miss 3 weeks tops. The GMen realize that Ward isn't starting RB material and can't take a full load.... RBBC is coming too town. And Droughns can easly over take Ward.

 

[bluesclues]

For some reason, the way Jacobs runs scares me.

I think he will find it tough to play 12 games this year.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

All from RotoBrandon Jacobs walked without a limp or wrap on his right knee in the locker room Wednesday. He is listed as out for Week 2.Jacobs claims he'll be able to run by next week. "It sure won't be five weeks," Jacobs said of the time he'll miss. Sprained MCLs usually take at least a few weeks to return from, but this is a good early indication for Jacobs owners.

Being able to run and being able run, cut and take hits in the NFL are on different ends of the spectrum.Players always want to come back as soon as possible and many say they are doing great, but they all usually end up injured for the time table predicted by physicians. Last year, Shaun Alexander said his foot felt fine and would be able to play right away as well and he was actually kept out for longer than anticipated.

 

[Gannz]

So is everyone that went down in week 1 injury prone now? Just asking

Just the freaks of nature. Remember Bo Jackson? It's not natural to be that big, fast, and agile. There has to be a weak link somewhere.

:( Bo Jackson was about 6'1" and 227. ya, a real freak of nature.

Yes, he was a freak of nature. His combination of size, speed, and agility has never been replicated.

 

[Da Guru]

Jacobs will go down again, he takes too many big hits with his running style.

 

[KellysHeroes]

LOL... this thread is 90% of people who wasted either BB $$ or high waiver priority on this guy and their now trying to tell themselves that Ward will over take Jacobs when he comes back.

 

[Debeucci]

regardless of how he got injured, the fact remains that he sprained his mcl. depending on the grade of sprain, he's probably be out at MINIMUM 2 weeks for a Grade I, 3-4 weeks with a Grade II, and 3-4 months with a Grade III. factor in that this rehab time is supposed to be spent with weight off the knee, so add about a week to the above recovery times before he sees action in a game.

considering jacobs is a 6'4" 270lb man, it's a lot of weight and strain he's putting on that knee. i understand he's a world class athelete, but i don't really see him bouncing back from this injury in anything less than 3-4 weeks.

the problem with big running backs is they are exactly that. big. he's a big target for defenders who want to pound him and drag him to the turf, and since he is by no means elusive or in posession of lateral quickness, he's going to always get beaten down. throw in a gimpy knee, and he's in for a long season, even when he comes back.

i agree with some of the postings above that hypothesize he'll resume his 'thunder' role in the 'thunder and lighting' backfield... i guess the real question will be, who is the 'lightning' now?....

i say better ward than droughns. i can't see droughns being elusive or explosive enough to elicit any type of 'lightning' analogy.

 

[To commish is my wish]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ward keeps the starting job and relegates Jacobs to the same role he had last year.

:( Seems like the smart move if Ward proves to be at all worthy of taking Tiki's old place in the system.

 

[PahtyTom]

LOL... this thread is 90% of people who wasted either BB $$ or high waiver priority on this guy and their now trying to tell themselves that Ward will over take Jacobs when he comes back.

I don't have Ward or Jacobs in one league. IMO Ward just looks like a better, more complete back.

 

[Squinting Cyclops]

get Ward now!

 

[mdog1967]

So is everyone that went down in week 1 injury prone now? Just asking

Just the freaks of nature. Remember Bo Jackson? It's not natural to be that big, fast, and agile. There has to be a weak link somewhere.

Bo Jackson was about 6'1" and 227. ya, a real freak of nature.

Yes, he was a freak of nature. His combination of size, speed, and agility has never been replicated.

Dude named LT might look at you crossed Eye for that comment. The injury prone is a myth circulated here in Fantasy land, IMHO. As already posted, every play is a potential for an injury to happen. There are some people with weaker structual ligiments than others, no indication that Jacobs is one of those people. I couldnt tell you if the Jacobs will be a stud or dud. I do know that Ward answered the bell and was Kinda Good at it, I think that Bradshaw has a chance to be the man some day, but Ward should be Jacobs handcuff going forward. A great spot play for a few weeks and then leave him on your bench unless injury strikes again. When evaluating Ward keep in mind that Dallas lost their run blocker during the game, and were pretty much playing a sort of prevent D the entire game. Usually shootouts provide some oppertunity for the RB to break off some long gains. The Defense concentraits on keeping the players in front of them, the bend but dont break clock management defense. Dallas didnt look to effective regardless. Ward may be a sleeper stud. Will be interesting to see going forward. Ward should be plenty fresh after spending most of the last few years doing the IR dance. Maybe Jacobs comes back and a split carry situation develops. If Ward is as explosive from here out then why wouldnt the Giants use an RBBC. It keeps both players fresh and makes them more reliable during the playoffs(ok, ok I'm not suggesting the Giants are going to the playoffs but they do play in the NFC) or in the Giants case down the stretch as they are trying to go 500 on the season and save Coach Hard ###e$ Job. I own all three in my dynasty league, passed on rubin for obvious reasons. So it dont matter to me who becomes the starter. RBBC would suck for fantasy play, but I think it could be the most effective arraingment for the Giants.

 

[kurtrudder]

I grabbed Ward off the WW and he immediately became an obvious sell high candidate IMO. The signing of Hedgecock just confirms to me that the Giants will look to go RBBC with Droughns and Ward until Jacobs is healthy.....and with this injury scare to BJ, who knows how it will pan out further down the track. Before the reasons for the Hedgecock signing become obvious to everyone in your league, I say sell high on Ward esp before the world sees him starting against GB.

 

[Da Guru]

Jacobs does not seem to be an everydown back.

Let ard take the abuse, and BJ get the TDs.

 

[Biabreakable]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ward keeps the starting job and relegates Jacobs to the same role he had last year.

Ward sure has been durable in his NFL career.

 

[meanjoegreen]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ward keeps the starting job and relegates Jacobs to the same role he had last year.

I would be.

 

[Gannz]

So is everyone that went down in week 1 injury prone now? Just asking

Just the freaks of nature. Remember Bo Jackson? It's not natural to be that big, fast, and agile. There has to be a weak link somewhere.

Bo Jackson was about 6'1" and 227. ya, a real freak of nature.

Yes, he was a freak of nature. His combination of size, speed, and agility has never been replicated.

Dude named LT might look at you crossed Eye for that comment.

LT had a great combination of size, speed, and agility. Still, he never came close to a 4.12 unless maybe someone was handing out free crack. 6'1" + 227 Lb. + 4.12 40 YD = freak.

 

[finnref]

Did you see the replay of BJ's knee injury. Had an excellent view of it from behind him. Appears that his knee went to at least a 20 degree angle. That is at least a 2nd degree tear. At least 4 weeks IMO and should be six. And he returns with a brace. As a Giant fan I have little faith in his future production for at least 2 months. And I do not think he is the back of the future for the Giants.

 

[notapplicable]

Guys R Droughns sucks. He's not elusive and he's not overly powerful either. He's alright at everything but not spectacular at any part of the game. Ward is the man for the job until Jacobs is back...

 

[Junta]

LOL... this thread is 90% of people who wasted either BB $$ or high waiver priority on this guy and their now trying to tell themselves that Ward will over take Jacobs when he comes back.

And the other 10% are guys that either have BJ, Droughns, or both and did not pickup Ward trying to tell themselves they are still golden.

 

[ThePittbully]

Giant fan here - Ward will still be the main guy imho...

the guy did very well, I dont see why they wouldnt at least give him his shot

 

[Dt's Mules]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ward keeps the starting job and relegates Jacobs to the same role he had last year.

this is how it will play out

 

[Loan Sharks]

LOL... this thread is 90% of people who wasted either BB $$ or high waiver priority on this guy and their now trying to tell themselves that Ward will over take Jacobs when he comes back.

Man, you really hate Derrick Ward, do you know him or something?

 

[Loan Sharks]

LOL... this thread is 90% of people who wasted either BB $$ or high waiver priority on this guy and their now trying to tell themselves that Ward will over take Jacobs when he comes back.

And the other 10% are guys that either have BJ, Droughns, or both and did not pickup Ward trying to tell themselves they are still golden.

This is fact is it is a situation up in the air and people will make their bets and hope they guess right. Kelly's really goes out on a limb and predicts that some backup who has a injury history won't make it. Wow way to step out. Truth is he is a low probability shot but there is some chance that Ward will succeed. Some think he's worth the risk, some don't. I think it really depends on the size and type of your league. You guys are arguing that whether to pick this guy up or not, in my larger league he has been on a roster for over a year. In another league maybe you don't want him so much.

 

[nygiants56]

All from RotoBrandon Jacobs walked without a limp or wrap on his right knee in the locker room Wednesday. He is listed as out for Week 2.Jacobs claims he'll be able to run by next week. "It sure won't be five weeks," Jacobs said of the time he'll miss. Sprained MCLs usually take at least a few weeks to return from, but this is a good early indication for Jacobs owners.Madison Hedgecock-RB- Giants Sep. 12 - 5:44 pm et Giants claimed FB Madison Hedgecock off waivers from the Rams and released FB Robert Douglas.Hedgecock is a true lead blocker, which New York had been lacking. He'll likely take some time to get used to the Giants' offense, but Hedgecock's addition should free up Reuben Droughns to see more action at tailback with Brandon Jacobs (MCL) injured. It's not great news for Derrick Ward.

Jacobs is not very good,anyways...he won't last as the starting RB< he's too tall and is a bigger target to hit.plus, he's slower than his advertised speed would indicate, ala Matt Jones..both run sub-4.4 40's, but don't show any 'game' speed on Sundays. the Jacobs experiment will finish much like the Stacey Mack experiment did in Jax while Coughlin was there..

 

[mad sweeney]

LOL... this thread is 90% of people who wasted either BB $$ or high waiver priority on this guy and their now trying to tell themselves that Ward will over take Jacobs when he comes back.

And the other 10% are guys that either have BJ, Droughns, or both and did not pickup Ward trying to tell themselves they are still golden.

And the other 0% (I guess?) are trying to work their waiver wires and trying to find some insight into the Giant's backfield situation

 

[CalBear]

LT had a great combination of size, speed, and agility. Still, he never came close to a 4.12 unless maybe someone was handing out free crack. 6'1" + 227 Lb. + 4.12 40 YD = freak.

Bo Jackson never ran a 4.12 40; that's urban legend.

 

[Todem]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ward keeps the starting job and relegates Jacobs to the same role he had last year.

Thats exactly what I think may very well happen.

 

[Todem]

LOL... this thread is 90% of people who wasted either BB $$ or high waiver priority on this guy and their now trying to tell themselves that Ward will over take Jacobs when he comes back.

Actually no. When I saw how good Ward played it was obvious he would be a great 3-5 week pick up (maybe more with Jacobs injury history)...and most people who did not draft Jacobs did not believe he would be a full time player. If Ward was average or below average I would have never jumped on him. But he was very impressive. He can ball. I know it was only one game but he looked fluid, had soft hands and looked very comfortable in the offense. When I watch Jacobs run he does not look as smooth. I think he is a perfect shor yardage goal line back. Just like Norwood is a perfect 3rd down back.Sometimes all a guy needs is a chance. When you play behind Tiki Barber you don't get many carries. Jacobs was striclty a goal line specialist/short yardage guy behind Tiki.Ward looked like a multi purpose back Sunday night. Jacobs has never looked like that in my eyes.Time will tell.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Bradshaw

 

[3C's]

Bradshaw

Nice kick returner he is.

 

[DoGdr]

IF Lorenzen is the QB I doubt Ward or Droughns will do much. As BJ Owner I am going after another RB (Chris Brown or Michael Pittman) or living with my depth (A. Green and Norwood) and picking up an extra WR who could develop and let me trade a WR for another RB.

 

[Gannz]

LT had a great combination of size, speed, and agility. Still, he never came close to a 4.12 unless maybe someone was handing out free crack. 6'1" + 227 Lb. + 4.12 40 YD = freak.

Bo Jackson never ran a 4.12 40; that's urban legend.

Yes, he did. Twice in college and once at the combine. It's documented in SI and on ESPN. 3.9 is the legend.

 

[CalBear]

LT had a great combination of size, speed, and agility. Still, he never came close to a 4.12 unless maybe someone was handing out free crack. 6'1" + 227 Lb. + 4.12 40 YD = freak.

Bo Jackson never ran a 4.12 40; that's urban legend.

Yes, he did. Twice in college and once at the combine. It's documented in SI and on ESPN. 3.9 is the legend.

World-record speed for the first 40 yards of a 100-meter dash is above 4.2. Bo Jackson's best 100 time was 10.39, six tenths of a second off the world record. He is not close to as fast as the top sprinters, and there is physically no way that he ran a real 4.12 at any point in his life.

 

[WarRedbirds]

LT had a great combination of size, speed, and agility. Still, he never came close to a 4.12 unless maybe someone was handing out free crack. 6'1" + 227 Lb. + 4.12 40 YD = freak.

Bo Jackson never ran a 4.12 40; that's urban legend.

Yes, he did. Twice in college and once at the combine. It's documented in SI and on ESPN. 3.9 is the legend.

World-record speed for the first 40 yards of a 100-meter dash is above 4.2. Bo Jackson's best 100 time was 10.39, six tenths of a second off the world record. He is not close to as fast as the top sprinters, and there is physically no way that he ran a real 4.12 at any point in his life.

Get a room...boys...!

 

[thecardiackid]

I predict he doesnt play for at least two weeks.

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Madison Hedgecock-RB- Giants Sep. 12 - 5:44 pm et

Giants claimed FB Madison Hedgecock off waivers from the Rams and released FB Robert Douglas.

Hedgecock is a true lead blocker, which New York had been lacking. He'll likely take some time to get used to the Giants' offense, but Hedgecock's addition should free up Reuben Droughns to see more action at tailback with Brandon Jacobs (MCL) injured. It's not great news for Derrick Ward.

I doubt it would take that long (3 weeks). Only b/c he's a blocking FB rental. Any other position on the field (sans kicker or punter) you're probably right, but all they (Eli or someone in the offensive huddle) has to do is say "hole (insert # here) and hit the first guy you see". I doubt they'll be using many 2 back sets on passing downs anyway, so he won't be looking after the QBs blindside. It may be vanilla for a week or two w.r.t. the running plays, but I'd think it's a strong indicator that Coughlin wants to get Droughns (and yes, Ward) ready to carry the ball ASAP.