Baltimore: The Next Ferguson? (4 Viewers)

[General Tso]

After last night Leland deserves his own show. That was some of the funniest #### I've seen from a reporter in a long time. At one point I thought he was going to walk that black protester who got shot with the bean bags over to the police and solicit an apology.

 

[Billy Bats]

Forget the peaceful pictures. Show us the violence!

Waiting for the moon walking lion.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

A method to the madness...

One of the Crips members, who called himself Charles, wearing a red Chicago Bulls Derrick Rose T-shirt, said the gang members had taken to the street because there is only so far that you can push people into a corner.

Were frustrated, he continued, and thats why were out there in the streets.

Then he described how he and some Bloods had stood in front of black-owned stores to protect them from looting or vandalism. He said they had made sure no black children, or reporters, were hit by rioters. They pointed them toward Chinese- and Arab-owned stores.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/28/us/amid-violence-factions-and-messages-converge-in-a-weary-and-unsettled-baltimore.html?_r=2

Progress?

How messed up is the thought of that though?

Not, "protecting others and/or businesses"...but just black owned businesses.

It's perverse how accepting of this type of mentality we've all become.

If anyone said that they were looking out for whites only...it'd be the end of the world.

They'd be labeled racists and rightfully so...

Trippy world/time we live in...

Blacks are more racist than whites are these days. Simple as that. They see the broad problem of police brutality as very specific white racism issue, even when the evidence doesn't exist. Eric Garner - the highest ranking Officer on the scene was black. Walter Scott - the first responder administering first aid on the scene (for which the Police were criticized) was black. Freddie Gray - the Leadership of the Baltimore Government and the Police force for the last 30 years has been overwhelmingly black - 4 of the last 5 Mayors and 7 of the last 10 Police Chiefs - black. And the composition of the police force is only 45% white. Yet the narrative in each of these three incidents immediately jumped to white racism. It's become a Pavlovian response now. Police brutality? White racism is to blame.

Not white racism. Systemic racism.

So when the system has been ruled by blacks, and mainly composed of blacks, for 30 years - it is still systemic racism? How do you explain that?

I posted a document that outlines the roots of the systemic issues that have plagued baltimore since the early 1900s. Systemic issues can be caused by many different things, local and federal. Its more to do with policies, practices and laws over a long period of time, then a particular person or specific event. Having a high percentage of blacks running the city doesnt mean there arent still systemic problems at play. Many of the issues in Bmore are directly related to those systemic issues which have never been properly addressed.

 

[shadrap]

@jack White I just think the bias came through immediately. Didn't seem very thought out. But after reading it again I don't really disagree, just not written well.

@Tdoss all good ideas. There are simple solutions. Independent investigators into police misconduct. Training to de escalate situations. Higher salaries. Target higher IQs. But we have to be honest about what this country is, what our justice system is, and what our government is. A ####### push button system for the super rich.

Cripes man, you in a dead end job or what?

 

[lod01]

If Freddie Gray were around to see these riots, odds on him being one of the first guys in through the windows at the CVS?

Are there drugs in CVS? Ok, there's your answer.

 

[lod01]

Forget the peaceful pictures. Show us the violence!

This is boring. Ratings plummeting.

 

[timschochet]

Scary to be in the National Guard there tonight. My father in law was in the NG in 1965, and they sent him into Watts. The rioters then had guns and were firing at police and NG.

 

[comfortably numb]

After last night Leland deserves his own show. That was some of the funniest #### I've seen from a reporter in a long time. At one point I thought he was going to walk that black protester who got shot with the bean bags over to the police and solicit an apology.

Leland and Matt show.

 

[Dr Oadi]

A method to the madness...

One of the Crips members, who called himself Charles, wearing a red Chicago Bulls Derrick Rose T-shirt, said the gang members had taken to the street because there is only so far that you can push people into a corner.

Were frustrated, he continued, and thats why were out there in the streets.

Then he described how he and some Bloods had stood in front of black-owned stores to protect them from looting or vandalism. He said they had made sure no black children, or reporters, were hit by rioters. They pointed them toward Chinese- and Arab-owned stores.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/28/us/amid-violence-factions-and-messages-converge-in-a-weary-and-unsettled-baltimore.html?_r=2

Progress?

How messed up is the thought of that though?

Not, "protecting others and/or businesses"...but just black owned businesses.

It's perverse how accepting of this type of mentality we've all become.

If anyone said that they were looking out for whites only...it'd be the end of the world.

They'd be labeled racists and rightfully so...

Trippy world/time we live in...

Blacks are more racist than whites are these days. Simple as that. They see the broad problem of police brutality as very specific white racism issue, even when the evidence doesn't exist. Eric Garner - the highest ranking Officer on the scene was black. Walter Scott - the first responder administering first aid on the scene (for which the Police were criticized) was black. Freddie Gray - the Leadership of the Baltimore Government and the Police force for the last 30 years has been overwhelmingly black - 4 of the last 5 Mayors and 7 of the last 10 Police Chiefs - black. And the composition of the police force is only 45% white. Yet the narrative in each of these three incidents immediately jumped to white racism. It's become a Pavlovian response now. Police brutality? White racism is to blame.

Not white racism. Systemic racism.

So when the system has been ruled by blacks, and mainly composed of blacks, for 30 years - it is still systemic racism? How do you explain that?

I posted a document that outlines the roots of the systemic issues that have plagued baltimore since the early 1900s. Systemic issues can be caused by many different things, local and federal. Its more to do with policies, practices and laws over a long period of time, then a particular person or specific event. Having a high percentage of blacks running the city doesnt mean there arent still systemic problems at play. Many of the issues in Bmore are directly related to those systemic issues which have never been properly addressed.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[GoBirds]

So what's on tap tonight?

How many people has the lion eaten?

 

[General Tso]

Forget the peaceful pictures. Show us the violence!

Waiting for the moon walking lion.

Yeah, I know. I fell for that one pretty hard. I think I may have seen it in a movie or read it in a novel at one point? I don't know, but it seemed totally realistic last night. I sent a bunch of texts out about it too to family and friends. Not one of my better moments.

 

[tdoss]

If Freddie Gray were around to see these riots, odds on him being one of the first guys in through the windows at the CVS?

Not sure about first one through...dude had a surgically repaired spine recently.

Maybe set the number at first 20 or so.

 

[TripItUp]

O Reily is a moron, but he is making some valid points tonight.

 

[Mark Davis]

Lots of love for the gangs tonight on MSNBC

 

[Dr Oadi]

Lots of love for the gangs tonight on MSNBC

Good people.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

O Reily is a moron, but he is making some valid points tonight.

This is one of those fish in a barrel situations, I believe...

 

[Billy Bats]

Forget the peaceful pictures. Show us the violence!

Waiting for the moon walking lion.

Yeah, I know. I fell for that one pretty hard. I think I may have seen it in a movie or read it in a novel at one point? I don't know, but it seemed totally realistic last night. I sent a bunch of texts out about it too to family and friends. Not one of my better moments.

that was awesome, had the place pretty excited!

 

[Dr Oadi]

Black peoples getting killed by white racists cops on a daily basis!

 

[General Tso]

After last night Leland deserves his own show. That was some of the funniest #### I've seen from a reporter in a long time. At one point I thought he was going to walk that black protester who got shot with the bean bags over to the police and solicit an apology.

Leland and Matt show.

Here is some of the video of Leland and the protester - http://freedomslighthouse.net/2015/04/27/fox-news-leland-vittert-interviews-man-shot-by-baltimore-police-with-bean-bags-man-admits-he-was-throwing-things-at-police-video-42715/Unfortunately the video ends right before the best part. Leland asks the guy if he is going to stay out and riot all night. He yells, "Hell Yes!"

Then Leland informs him that there will be a curfew in place starting tomorrow. The protester thinks about it for a moment, shrugs his shoulders and says very sincerely, "Well, you've got to observe a curfew..."

I almost choked on my food I was laughing so hard.

 

[Dr Oadi]

Why would you blame the kids who didn't have proper parenting? Why would you blame the kids who didn't have a proper education? Why would you blame the kids who didn't have access to health care? They aren't to blame for these riots! You are!

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I have a giant octopus update but it's classified....for now.

 

[Ghost Rider]

O Reily is a moron, but he is making some valid points tonight.

Considering the money he makes for doing what he does, I am pretty sure he is not a moron. Abrasive **** is more like it.

 

[timschochet]

O Reily is a moron, but he is making some valid points tonight.

Such as?

 

[cstu]

White people shouldn't be subject to the curfew.

 

[Apple Jack]

Baltimore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Long Island burbs

Not sure there are enough arrows to drive home that reality.

 

[Parrothead]

less than an hour till everyone goes home..

 

[General Tso]

Uh oh. Leland's in trouble!

 

[General Tso]

Leland's gonna get his ### kicked! Right in front of the cops!

 

[HellToupee]

Leland has his hands full here

 

[HellToupee]

Leventhal looks like he's transmitting from Mars

 

[Dr Oadi]

Once that Hennessy gets into me.........

 

[Parrothead]

pizza delivery places in Baltimore expecting to be swamped after 10 when everyone goes home..

 

[TenTimes]

CURFEW COUNTDOWN- 00:54

 

[Dr Oadi]

Just remember whitey this isn't representative of the black community.

 

[General Tso]

Gonna be very interesting what happens at 10:00. By all accounts the cops are going to crack down and enforce things tonight. Not sure the protesters have gotten that message. They look pretty fired up and ready for a battle. This could get ugly.

 

[HellToupee]

The mayor should be on the street

 

[General Tso]

LOL. Cop to Leland - "You are on your own out here".

 

[Dr Oadi]

Hey whitey if you get attacked we can't can't intervene. That would be inciting a riot.....Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[HellToupee]

if a tree falls in the woods……^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

what is it with this guy??

 

[PinkydaPimp]

LOL. Cop to Leland - "You are on your own out here".

ill admit the fox coverage is quite entertaining!

 

[cstu]

How can there be human beings in America with absolutely no self-respect? I've traveled the world, met people in truly desperate situations and they would never act this way.

What an absolute failing of a culture that we've produced people like this.

 

[Billy Bats]

The mayor Ray Lewis should be on the street

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The mayor Ray Lewis giant octopus should be on the street

 

[TripItUp]

How can there be human beings in America with absolutely no self-respect? I've traveled the world, met people in truly desperate situations and they would never act this way.

What an absolute failing of a culture that we've produced people like this.

1) We are a culture that values materialism and money, moreso than most cultures

2) Sects of our society do not feel they can achieve what our culture tells them they should value...resulting in disenchantment

3) Sects of society have troubled relations with police as a result of disenchantment. The tension builds and builds over time until a single unfortunate and terrible event triggers protests, peaceful and violent.

it's really that simple

 

[General Tso]

My God I could just look at Megan Kelley for hours.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

How can there be human beings in America with absolutely no self-respect? I've traveled the world, met people in truly desperate situations and they would never act this way.

What an absolute failing of a culture that we've produced people like this.

You haven't been the same places I've been then. Same thing happened in Paris France not too long ago, let's not be so dramatic about downtrodden Americans.

 

[Dr Oadi]

How can there be human beings in America with absolutely no self-respect? I've traveled the world, met people in truly desperate situations and they would never act this way.

What an absolute failing of a culture that we've produced people like this.

1) We are a culture that values materialism and money, moreso than most cultures

2) We have populations where young men do not feel they can achieve what our culture tells them they should value

it's really that simple

hogwash Systemic racism!

 

[timschochet]

How can there be human beings in America with absolutely no self-respect? I've traveled the world, met people in truly desperate situations and they would never act this way.

What an absolute failing of a culture that we've produced people like this.

Anthropologists and social scientists tell us that people in a mob behave differently than they do as individuals. This is not to excuse their behavior at all, only to suggest that it might not tell us anything about how they would act in "normal situations".

 

[General Tso]

Predictions for 10:00?

I say the cops clear the street with tear gas and not much else happens.

 

[timschochet]

Predictions for 10:00?

I say the cops clear the street with tear gas and not much else happens.

Let's hope!