Baltimore: The Next Ferguson? (1 Viewer)

[Apple Jack]

Heroin, not heroine, use is the users choice to use. Trying to justify killing corner boys because they were born into that life is asinine.

So then don't judge him, what's your estimate on his body count?

People he has killed? Zero.

Again, your implication that there was justification for his killing is pathetic.

Implications work both ways. I didn't imply that and I don't think it. In fact I stated the opposite (in my OP). Thanks.

Sure you were. You might not be aware of it, but you were.

 

[Hang 10]

Seems like the rioters and looters may have jumped the gun on burning down and destroying their neighborhood.

When you need toilet paper, you can't wait for the courts.

 

[Mohawk]

IMO opinion to some extent the protestors (because how they protest) only hurt their cause and will end up losing respect from the majority of the general public.

You are confusing the protestors with the rioters. Two vastly different groups of people. Easy to do that without investigating the situation.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Seems like the rioters and looters may have jumped the gun on burning down and destroying their neighborhood.

When you need toilet paper, you can't wait for the courts.

Does anybody know where I can get my prescription refilled?

 

[Gary Coal Man]

Soothing the masses

That's likely a component, but it was also the right call given the evidence we know. Murder charge may be extreme, but why not have the matter go to trial so that the public can be exposed to all the information and the matter can be decided by a jury?Stressing that I believe Mosby made the right call, I knew she was going to charge for another reason. As we saw with Ferguson witnesses that countered the Brown narrative and as we're seeing with the other van passenger whose account suggested Gray may have injured himself, you can quickly become persona non grata in the black community if you're viewed as going against the black side. That's an awful lot of pressure to heap on a thirty-five year old woman.

 

[General Tso]

Shocking news about the homicide ruling. I have to think there is evidence here that hasn't been made public. Perhaps GPS data or street cam videos pointing to a rough ride?

Now that the ruling has come down we should hopefully start seeing more transparency from the PD as to what happened.

 

[TobiasFunke]

IMO opinion to some extent the protestors (because how they protest) only hurt their cause and will end up losing respect from the majority of the general public.

You are confusing the protestors with the rioters. Two vastly different groups of people. Easy to do that without investigating the situation.

No, I like it better his way.

All Chicago sports fans are rioters and looters

 

[Ditka Butkus]

IMO opinion to some extent the protestors (because how they protest) only hurt their cause and will end up losing respect from the majority of the general public.

You are confusing the protestors with the rioters. Two vastly different groups of people. Easy to do that without investigating the situation.

My opinion is based on the protestors clogging up traffic and such. When you try to stop traffic at a tunnel or interstate you are ####### with people who have nothing to do with the situation you are protesting. Protest all you want but don't #### with my life . I had nothing to do with it.

 

[The_Man]

Shocking news about the homicide ruling. I have to think there is evidence here that hasn't been made public. Perhaps GPS data or street cam videos pointing to a rough ride?

Now that the ruling has come down we should hopefully start seeing more transparency from the PD as to what happened.

This map of where the van went is pretty interesting.

As the guy notes, stop #3 only came to light thanks to the security camera outside a store.

Note the very short and direct route that could have been taken in minutes from point 1 to 6, instead of the 45-minute mystery ride

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Heroin, not heroine, use is the users choice to use. Trying to justify killing corner boys because they were born into that life is asinine.

So then don't judge him, what's your estimate on his body count?

People he has killed? Zero.

Again, your implication that there was justification for his killing is pathetic.

Implications work both ways. I didn't imply that and I don't think it. In fact I stated the opposite (in my OP). Thanks.

Sure you were. You might not be aware of it, but you were.

Yeah I don't want to argue about it. I said at the outset I believe in maximum individual rights. I was talking about the level of empathy, not civil rights or the right or wrong for the arrest. But even on the issue of empathy if sounded bad, I apologize.

 

[RCon]

Once you decide you're going to charge someone with criminal conduct you might as well throw the book at them. Like I said, that's how it would work if the alleged criminals were civilians. Refreshing to see a prosecutor actually playing the role of a prosecutor in one of these cases instead of playing judge and jury.

You may be right that this is how it normally works when the defendants are civilians, but I don't think that's how it should work. Prosecutors shouldn't be overcharging with the intent to make a plea deal later. Such a practice would seem to be unfair to the poor, who can't afford good attorneys and have to rely on public defenders.

Yeah I agree. There's some gray there- you don't want them charging everything they can list despite the evidence, but you also don't want them restricting the charges only to things they feel 99% certain they can get guilty verdicts on. And obviously I can't tell exactly how much this prosecutor is reaching because I don't have all the evidence. Maybe a ton, maybe not at all.

Still, regardless of what you think about exactly where to draw the lines I'm just happy to see the same general attitude and decisionmaking process when the accused is a police officer. I think that's how it should be.

Right. I agree with all of this. I want prosecutors to treat civilians and police the same. I'm just not sure that the current practice for civilians is the proper one (and I know the normal practice for police isn't the proper one).

 

[Jack White]

Once you decide you're going to charge someone with criminal conduct you might as well throw the book at them. Like I said, that's how it would work if the alleged criminals were civilians. Refreshing to see a prosecutor actually playing the role of a prosecutor in one of these cases instead of playing judge and jury.

You may be right that this is how it normally works when the defendants are civilians, but I don't think that's how it should work. Prosecutors shouldn't be overcharging with the intent to make a plea deal later. Such a practice would seem to be unfair to the poor, who can't afford good attorneys and have to rely on public defenders.

But this is exactly what prosecutors all over the country do routinely. Stack the charges, force a plea deal, rack up a conviction on their record, run for re-election on that record. That's "justice" in the USA.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The charges:

Officer Caesar R. Goodson, Jr.: Second degree depraved heart murder; involuntary manslaughter; second degree assault; manslaughter by vehicle (gross negligence); manslaughter by vehicle (criminal negligence); misconduct in office

Officer William G. Porter: Involuntary manslaughter; second degree assault; misconduct in office

Lt. Brian W. Rice: Involuntary manslaughter; two counts of second degree assault; manslaughter by vehicle (gross negligence); two counts of misconduct in office; false imprisonment

Officer Edward M. Nero: Two counts of second degree assault; manslaughter by vehicle (gross negligence); two counts of misconduct in office; false imprisonment

Officer Garrett E. Miller: Two counts of second degree assault; two counts of misconduct in office; false imprisonment

Sgt. Alicia D. White: Involuntary manslaughter; second degree assault; misconduct in office

 

[Jack White]

What are the Fox News Republicans saying about this?

 

[pantagrapher]

With a depraved heart murder charge, doesn't that imply that whether of not there was a "rough ride" is beside the point?

 

[Jackstraw]

Seems like the rioters and looters may have jumped the gun on burning down and destroying their neighborhood.

Seems like there is way more to what's going on in Baltimore than the disposition of a single case.

 

[Jack White]

Seems like the rioters and looters may have jumped the gun on burning down and destroying their neighborhood.

Seems like there is way more to what's going on in Baltimore than the disposition of a single case.

I agree. And it's an encouraging development.

Maybe this will be a turning point in rolling back the federalized, militarized police in the US.

I have my doubts, but I hope it is.

 

[KCitons]

Still making my way through "The Case for Reparations" article. The exert below struck a cord. To see how slavery tore apart families during that time, who is tearing apart families today? Seams today it's self inflicted.

When the wife and children of Henry Brown, a slave in Richmond, Virginia, were to be sold away, Brown searched for a white master who might buy his wife and children to keep the family together. He failed:



The next day, I stationed myself by the side of the road, along which the slaves, amounting to three hundred and fifty, were to pass. The purchaser of my wife was a Methodist minister, who was about starting for North Carolina. Pretty soon five waggon-loads of little children passed, and looking at the foremost one, what should I see but a little child, pointing its tiny hand towards me, exclaiming, “There’s my father; I knew he would come and bid me good-bye.” It was my eldest child! Soon the gang approached in which my wife was chained. I looked, and beheld her familiar face; but O, reader, that glance of agony! may God spare me ever again enduring the excruciating horror of that moment! She passed, and came near to where I stood. I seized hold of her hand, intending to bid her farewell; but words failed me; the gift of utterance had fled, and I remained speechless. I followed her for some distance, with her hand grasped in mine, as if to save her from her fate, but I could not speak, and I was obliged to turn away in silence.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Just to be clear, we still don't have details but everyone is happy with the charges?

 

[rockaction]

I'm not a cop lover (see my work in the other threads and sig) but no, I'm not happy. I wouldn't trust the government of Baltimore with a nickel, much less the fate of my life in a prosecutor's hands. Everybody in this situation got the royal government #### treatment. Also, like Jackstraw said and I keep saying, this ain't about Freddie Gray. These guys are now proxies for all the other thug cops that beat the crap out of somebody without provocation or right. I doubt they're getting individualized justice. Like everything else in the "Free State," this reeks of collectivism, this time in the form of punishment.

 

[General Tso]

Heroin, not heroine, use is the user's choice. Trying to justify killing corner boys because they were born into that life is asinine.

That might be the most idiotic thing you've ever said, and that's saying something. 99.9% of every heroin user is addicted and using against their own will. You've obviously never worked with drug addicts.

Says the most mocked poster in the history of the site.

I was a heroin addict for seven years. And yes, I have also "worked with drug addicts." But what would I know.

Well what do you know, we have something in common after all. We'll have to hit a meeting sometime. You're entitled to your opinion, and I truly wish you well in this area. I am all for personal accountability in my program and with the many addicts I work with. My credo is that picking up the first drink or drug is the choice, but once the addiction is triggered it is very much NOT a choice. That is why addicts will go some if the most depraved #### imagine able to get their fix. They will steel from their own family. I've heard many examples of people stealing from their children's piggy banks. That's not a choice. That's being a slave to addiction.

It's important within the context of this discussion because of all this nonsense being repeated in here daily about drugs being legalized, or about Freddie Gray being a known heroin dealer not that big a deal. It is a very big deal.

Two weeks ago today I took the day off from work and spent the day with a grieving mother on the one year anniversary of her son's death. his name was Norm.

He was a recovering heroin addict and a sponsee of mine. On April 15, 2014 he had his one year anniversary - a full year without drugs or alcohol. He had completely turned around his life, and just that morning had put into motion plans to enroll in college. Against my advice he had even weaned himself off of methadone as well. Even though he was a year clean he still had intense cravings for heroin. Well, two nights later he ran into one of his old buddies, and within 4 hours he was dead on the basement couch. And you want to know the kicker? His buddies stole his wallet.

Two weeks after Norm died the niece of my brother died of an overdose. 25 years old, from a great family, nicest girl you'd ever meet.

So sorry guys, but I'm not quite there yet to an open door drug policy. And you know what? Neither were the people of Baltimore. The cops didn't start cracking down in Baltimore in a vacuum. It came at the request of the community and elected officials. Just a thought.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I'm not a cop lover (see my work in the other threads and sig) but no, I'm not happy. I wouldn't trust the government of Baltimore with a nickel, much less the fate of my life in a prosecutor's hands. Everybody in this situation got the royal government #### treatment. Also, like Jackstraw said and I keep saying, this ain't about Freddie Gray. These guys are now proxies for all the other thug cops that beat the crap out of somebody without provocation or right. I doubt they're getting individualized justice. Like everything else in the "Free State," this reeks of collectivism, this time in the form of punishment.

So you're just unhappy about the entire concept of people getting charged with crimes in the state of Maryland. And you also have a sixth sense that allows you to grasp the unspoken motivations and biases not just of the prosecutor but also of the future members of the jury who won't be selected for many months to come.

Seems reasonable.

 

[lod01]

Seems like the rioters and looters may have jumped the gun on burning down and destroying their neighborhood.

When you need toilet paper, you can't wait for the courts.

It's called 'Opportunity'. Ya can't let it pass you by.

 

[The_Man]

I'm not a cop lover (see my work in the other threads and sig) but no, I'm not happy. I wouldn't trust the government of Baltimore with a nickel, much less the fate of my life in a prosecutor's hands. Everybody in this situation got the royal government #### treatment. Also, like Jackstraw said and I keep saying, this ain't about Freddie Gray. These guys are now proxies for all the other thug cops that beat the crap out of somebody without provocation or right. I doubt they're getting individualized justice. Like everything else in the "Free State," this reeks of collectivism, this time in the form of punishment.

An innocent man is arrested without cause, and forced into the back of a van.

45 minutes pass, a period during which he is in supervised police custody the entire time.

He emerges from the van mortally injured.

Is nobody to be held accountable for this?

I'm not saying the charged police are guilty. But I am saying it seems there is sufficient reason to proceed to a trial to determine whether some/all of them have committed a crime.

 

[timschochet]

I'm not a cop lover (see my work in the other threads and sig) but no, I'm not happy. I wouldn't trust the government of Baltimore with a nickel, much less the fate of my life in a prosecutor's hands. Everybody in this situation got the royal government #### treatment. Also, like Jackstraw said and I keep saying, this ain't about Freddie Gray. These guys are now proxies for all the other thug cops that beat the crap out of somebody without provocation or right. I doubt they're getting individualized justice. Like everything else in the "Free State," this reeks of collectivism, this time in the form of punishment.

I understand your point, and it may turn out that in the end you're right, but at this point in time it seems like an unwarranted assumption. It's also unfair IMO, to the prosecutors who have worked on this case. You're assaulting their integrity with no evidence. That's exactly what the "Hands Up Don't Shoot" people did in Ferguson, and here you are acting no better on the "other side".

 

[General Tso]

The charges:

Officer Caesar R. Goodson, Jr.: Second degree depraved heart murder; involuntary manslaughter; second degree assault; manslaughter by vehicle (gross negligence); manslaughter by vehicle (criminal negligence); misconduct in office

Officer William G. Porter: Involuntary manslaughter; second degree assault; misconduct in office

Lt. Brian W. Rice: Involuntary manslaughter; two counts of second degree assault; manslaughter by vehicle (gross negligence); two counts of misconduct in office; false imprisonment

Officer Edward M. Nero: Two counts of second degree assault; manslaughter by vehicle (gross negligence); two counts of misconduct in office; false imprisonment

Officer Garrett E. Miller: Two counts of second degree assault; two counts of misconduct in office; false imprisonment

Sgt. Alicia D. White: Involuntary manslaughter; second degree assault; misconduct in office

So the driver was in fact a Roman dictator.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I guess I'll just ask it: who are we talking about here? I'm a huge believer in Constitutional rights to the max, every one of them but here's an honest question - how many people die at the result of the junk a heroine/narcotics dealer sells over the course of say a five year career? ...

Heroin-related deaths in Maryland spiked 88 percent from 2011 to 2013

It's a Washington Post article, which I think is approved here, right?

I'm dropping out of the whole issue (or whatever it was perceived to be) but I just thought I would point out an answer to the question:

The answer is not "zero" or 5/100K.

A study published in the Archives of General Psychiatry shows that heroin addicts have only a 50 percent survival rate. The studied followed 581 male heroin addicts for 33 years – from 1964 to 1997. In 1997, nearly half of the men had died. The most common causes of death were drug overdose (21.6 percent), followed by homicide, suicide and accidents (19 percent), liver disease (15.2 percent) and cardiovascular disease and cancer (both at 11.7 percent).

http://luxury.rehabs.com/heroin-addiction/death-mortality-rates/

 

[General Tso]

I'm not a cop lover (see my work in the other threads and sig) but no, I'm not happy. I wouldn't trust the government of Baltimore with a nickel, much less the fate of my life in a prosecutor's hands. Everybody in this situation got the royal government #### treatment. Also, like Jackstraw said and I keep saying, this ain't about Freddie Gray. These guys are now proxies for all the other thug cops that beat the crap out of somebody without provocation or right. I doubt they're getting individualized justice. Like everything else in the "Free State," this reeks of collectivism, this time in the form of punishment.

I understand your point, and it may turn out that in the end you're right, but at this point in time it seems like an unwarranted assumption. It's also unfair IMO, to the prosecutors who have worked on this case.

You mean the Prosectors who worked on this case all of 20 hours?

 

[timschochet]

Heroin is bad.

 

[Jack White]

Heroin, not heroine, use is the user's choice. Trying to justify killing corner boys because they were born into that life is asinine.

That might be the most idiotic thing you've ever said, and that's saying something. 99.9% of every heroin user is addicted and using against their own will. You've obviously never worked with drug addicts.

Says the most mocked poster in the history of the site.

I was a heroin addict for seven years. And yes, I have also "worked with drug addicts." But what would I know.

Well what do you know, we have something in common after all. We'll have to hit a meeting sometime. You're entitled to your opinion, and I truly wish you well in this area.I am all for personal accountability in my program and with the many addicts I work with. My credo is that picking up the first drink or drug is the choice, but once the addiction is triggered it is very much NOT a choice. That is why addicts will go some if the most depraved #### imagine able to get their fix. They will steel from their own family. I've heard many examples of people stealing from their children's piggy banks. That's not a choice. That's being a slave to addiction.

It's important within the context of this discussion because of all this nonsense being repeated in here daily about drugs being legalized, or about Freddie Gray being a known heroin dealer not that big a deal. It is a very big deal.

Two weeks ago today I took the day off from work and spent the day with a grieving mother on the one year anniversary of her son's death. his name was Norm.

He was a recovering heroin addict and a sponsee of mine. On April 15, 2014 he had his one year anniversary - a full year without drugs or alcohol. He had completely turned around his life, and just that morning had put into motion plans to enroll in college. Against my advice he had even weaned himself off of methadone as well. Even though he was a year clean he still had intense cravings for heroin. Well, two nights later he ran into one of his old buddies, and within 4 hours he was dead on the basement couch. And you want to know the kicker? His buddies stole his wallet.

Two weeks after Norm died the niece of my brother died of an overdose. 25 years old, from a great family, nicest girl you'd ever meet.

So sorry guys, but I'm not quite there yet to an open door drug policy. And you know what? Neither were the people of Baltimore. The cops didn't start cracking down in Baltimore in a vacuum. It came at the request of the community and elected officials. Just a thought.

There are plenty of moral and practical reasons that the possession and use of ALL drugs should not be crimes.

The fact is that some people will make bad decisions and pay the ultimate price for those decisions, regardless of the legal status of the substances they consume.

 

[Mohawk]

IMO opinion to some extent the protestors (because how they protest) only hurt their cause and will end up losing respect from the majority of the general public.

You are confusing the protestors with the rioters. Two vastly different groups of people. Easy to do that without investigating the situation.

My opinion is based on the protestors clogging up traffic and such. When you try to stop traffic at a tunnel or interstate you are ####### with people who have nothing to do with the situation you are protesting. Protest all you want but don't #### with my life . I had nothing to do with it.

Wow... you may have been inconvenienced a bit. Sorry to make life so freaking uncomfortable for you! Sheesh! Ridiculous

 

[Jack White]

The prosecutor looks like a hot actress that would be cast in the role for a TV show.

 

[General Tso]

Heroin, not heroine, use is the user's choice. Trying to justify killing corner boys because they were born into that life is asinine.

That might be the most idiotic thing you've ever said, and that's saying something. 99.9% of every heroin user is addicted and using against their own will. You've obviously never worked with drug addicts.

Says the most mocked poster in the history of the site.

I was a heroin addict for seven years. And yes, I have also "worked with drug addicts." But what would I know.

Well what do you know, we have something in common after all. We'll have to hit a meeting sometime. You're entitled to your opinion, and I truly wish you well in this area.I am all for personal accountability in my program and with the many addicts I work with. My credo is that picking up the first drink or drug is the choice, but once the addiction is triggered it is very much NOT a choice. That is why addicts will go some if the most depraved #### imagine able to get their fix. They will steel from their own family. I've heard many examples of people stealing from their children's piggy banks. That's not a choice. That's being a slave to addiction.

It's important within the context of this discussion because of all this nonsense being repeated in here daily about drugs being legalized, or about Freddie Gray being a known heroin dealer not that big a deal. It is a very big deal.

Two weeks ago today I took the day off from work and spent the day with a grieving mother on the one year anniversary of her son's death. his name was Norm.

He was a recovering heroin addict and a sponsee of mine. On April 15, 2014 he had his one year anniversary - a full year without drugs or alcohol. He had completely turned around his life, and just that morning had put into motion plans to enroll in college. Against my advice he had even weaned himself off of methadone as well. Even though he was a year clean he still had intense cravings for heroin. Well, two nights later he ran into one of his old buddies, and within 4 hours he was dead on the basement couch. And you want to know the kicker? His buddies stole his wallet.

Two weeks after Norm died the niece of my brother died of an overdose. 25 years old, from a great family, nicest girl you'd ever meet.

So sorry guys, but I'm not quite there yet to an open door drug policy. And you know what? Neither were the people of Baltimore. The cops didn't start cracking down in Baltimore in a vacuum. It came at the request of the community and elected officials. Just a thought.

There are plenty of moral and practical reasons that the possession and use of ALL drugs should not be crimes.

The fact is that some people will make bad decisions and pay the ultimate price for those decisions, regardless of the legal status of the substances they consume.

Yeah, you totally missed my point about the decision part, but I really don't want to argue it.

 

[Sinn Fein]

So basically, if the police had been doing the job they were paid to do, none of this would have happened?

Thanks, Obama.

 

[Jack White]

Heroin, not heroine, use is the user's choice. Trying to justify killing corner boys because they were born into that life is asinine.

That might be the most idiotic thing you've ever said, and that's saying something. 99.9% of every heroin user is addicted and using against their own will. You've obviously never worked with drug addicts.

Says the most mocked poster in the history of the site.

I was a heroin addict for seven years. And yes, I have also "worked with drug addicts." But what would I know.

Well what do you know, we have something in common after all. We'll have to hit a meeting sometime. You're entitled to your opinion, and I truly wish you well in this area.I am all for personal accountability in my program and with the many addicts I work with. My credo is that picking up the first drink or drug is the choice, but once the addiction is triggered it is very much NOT a choice. That is why addicts will go some if the most depraved #### imagine able to get their fix. They will steel from their own family. I've heard many examples of people stealing from their children's piggy banks. That's not a choice. That's being a slave to addiction.

It's important within the context of this discussion because of all this nonsense being repeated in here daily about drugs being legalized, or about Freddie Gray being a known heroin dealer not that big a deal. It is a very big deal.

Two weeks ago today I took the day off from work and spent the day with a grieving mother on the one year anniversary of her son's death. his name was Norm.

He was a recovering heroin addict and a sponsee of mine. On April 15, 2014 he had his one year anniversary - a full year without drugs or alcohol. He had completely turned around his life, and just that morning had put into motion plans to enroll in college. Against my advice he had even weaned himself off of methadone as well. Even though he was a year clean he still had intense cravings for heroin. Well, two nights later he ran into one of his old buddies, and within 4 hours he was dead on the basement couch. And you want to know the kicker? His buddies stole his wallet.

Two weeks after Norm died the niece of my brother died of an overdose. 25 years old, from a great family, nicest girl you'd ever meet.

So sorry guys, but I'm not quite there yet to an open door drug policy. And you know what? Neither were the people of Baltimore. The cops didn't start cracking down in Baltimore in a vacuum. It came at the request of the community and elected officials. Just a thought.

There are plenty of moral and practical reasons that the possession and use of ALL drugs should not be crimes.

The fact is that some people will make bad decisions and pay the ultimate price for those decisions, regardless of the legal status of the substances they consume.

Yeah, you totally missed my point about the decision part, but I really don't want to argue it.

I'm not looking to argue, either.

Just pointing out that making some dangerous substances illegal while others are legal is morally and practically dubious.

I know you don't agree. Many don't. No worries.

 

[The_Man]

Anyone reading this thread knows my point of view. I think a number of police officers essentially ended the life of a man who wasn't breaking any laws, and need to be held accountable for that crime. I also think they bear most of the responsibility for creating the confrontation Monday afternoon that touched off the rioting - though they had nothing to do with the lawbreaking that ensued.

But I also know that despite how upset and demoralized many of them must now be feeling after hearing of the charges, they will continue to stand their post and do their duty and protect the citizens and property of Baltimore. They're not going to walk off the job, and they're certainly not going to vent their frustration through violence. I admire their sense of duty. They give me hope for our society, just like the people who were out Tuesday morning and cleaning up the aftermath on Pennsylvania Avenue do.

 

[Jack White]

The mayor is going to speak soon.

What are the chances that she's actually a replicant?

 

[Sinn Fein]

The mayor is going to speak soon.

What are the chances that she's actually a replicant?

or a reptile?

 

[The_Man]

The mayor is going to speak soon.

What are the chances that she's actually a replicant?

She's going to be so angry. In one morning Mosby has surpassed her in hotness, leadership, and buzz as Maryland's next major political figure.

 

[The_Man]

The mayor is going to speak soon.

What are the chances that she's actually a replicant?

She's going to be so angry. In one morning Mosby has surpassed her in hotness, leadership, and buzz as Maryland's next major political figure.

Let me clarify, Mayor Rawlings Blake is still my favorite:

http://www.americasbestracing.net/media/9334844/Christine-and-Baltimore-Mayor-at-Preakness-copy.jpg

 

[Jack White]

The mayor is going to speak soon.

What are the chances that she's actually a replicant?

She's going to be so angry. In one morning Mosby has surpassed her in hotness, leadership, and buzz as Maryland's next major political figure.

It's hard for me to take her seriously after she ordered the cops to stand down on Monday while criminal opportunists destroyed private property with impunity.

 

[General Tso]

Weren't the badge lickers applauding the decision in Ferguson because the process worked? Now, when the officers are actually indicted they don't like the process anymore?

I see you're trolling again. Old habits die hard I guess.The only criticism I have levied, and it wasn't even a criticism as much as an acknowledgment of the fact, is the speed with which this indictment came down. Many thought it would be weeks before any decision was made. The investigation was only released to her yesterday afternoon, and the coroners report isn't even finalized yet. Certainly has the appearance of a rush to judgment.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

My opinion is based on the protestors clogging up traffic and such. When you try to stop traffic at a tunnel or interstate you are ####### with people who have nothing to do with the situation you are protesting. Protest all you want but don't #### with my life . I had nothing to do with it.

Wow... you may have been inconvenienced a bit. Sorry to make life so freaking uncomfortable for you! Sheesh! Ridiculous

No, he's right. Blocking traffic is dumb because it can be much more than "an inconvenience" it can be life threatening.

A few months ago the BLackLivesMatter protesters shut down all the highways into Boston during the morning commute. I was listening to Boston talk radio at that time and a nurse at one of Boston's hospitals said that all of the surgeries that were scheduled that day had to be cancelled and rescheduled because neither the patients nor the surgeons could get into Boston. Some of the surgeries were such that delay could be life threatening.

Protest all you want, but be smart about it.

 

[Jack White]

Hey, the "as well, too" guy is back!

 

[Sinn Fein]

Is it just me, or does that State's Attorney look way out of her league on this case? If she is the lead prosecutor here, can't see any convictions, assuming the police union hires any half-decent criminal defense attorneys.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Sums it up pretty well...

I didn’t think they could come up with a less-believable excuse than “He went for my gun,” but “He broke his own neck,” takes that award.

 

[The_Man]

But seriously, Madame Mayor, about that curfew? The citizens of your city aren't criminals and don't like being detained in their homes.

 

[Jack White]

But seriously, Madame Mayor, about that curfew? The citizens of your city aren't criminals and don't like being detained in their homes.

Uh oh . . . there is a certain doctor who might drive by and call you names for daring to question the curfew.

 

[KCitons]

But seriously, Madame Mayor, about that curfew? The citizens of your city aren't criminals and don't like being detained in their homes.

agree, but I've never had a bomb in my shoe. Yet I have to remove my shoes when I go through airport security.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Sums it up pretty well...

I didn’t think they could come up with a less-believable excuse than “He went for my gun,” but “He broke his own neck,” takes that award.

Tso posted on this but two other arrestees have been paralyzed in paddy wagon rides. Per the NYT.

If so, what's going on there?