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prymetyme25

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I'm watching the Barry Sanders special on NFLN and was watching his runs (in amazement I might add) and wondering to myself will there ever be another rb to give given that kind of freedom again? Now if a rb loses 2 yards on back to back plays he's pretty much done for the game but barry did it all the time but you knew he was gonna break one sooner or later.

So the question is do you guys think a coach would ever put that much faith in a rb again?

This guy has to have some of the best runs for losses that I've ever seen.

 
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Bush seems possible at some point. I don't see the 2 yard losses and breaking one out being as much of a factor as the "as long as the team is winning factor." Barry Sanders was the silver lining win or lose.

 
Ned said:
prymetyme25 said:
Now if a rb loses 2 yards on back to back plays he's pretty much done for the game
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huh? :yucky:
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He's basically saying that there were times where a special RB like Barry might get stopped for a loss on back to back plays, and the coach still had faith in him and would keep him in and churning away. Would a coach nodays have enough faith to let one do it in today's game?A few are given that luxury, such as LaDainian. But not many. Many would stray away from the run for a little while...
 
Was that the 'Run Barry Run' show?

That was great. He was truly amazing and that video, I could watch forever. His footwork was amazing.

 
Sinrman said:
Ned said:
prymetyme25 said:
Now if a rb loses 2 yards on back to back plays he's pretty much done for the game
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huh? :)
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He's basically saying that there were times where a special RB like Barry might get stopped for a loss on back to back plays, and the coach still had faith in him and would keep him in and churning away. Would a coach nodays have enough faith to let one do it in today's game?A few are given that luxury, such as LaDainian. But not many. Many would stray away from the run for a little while...
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Did any of you watch the Ravens last year with Lewis?
 
Any coach worth his salt would not put up with it, teach the RB to prevent losing yards on a high % of plays, and hopefully the RB would be professional and receptive to that criticism/teaching.

 
prymetyme25 said:
I'm watching the Barry Sanders special on NFLN and was watching his runs (in amazement I might add) and wondering to myself will there ever be another rb to give given that kind of freedom again? Now if a rb loses 2 yards on back to back plays he's pretty much done for the game but barry did it all the time but you knew he was gonna break one sooner or later. So the question is do you guys think a coach would ever put that much faith in a rb again?This guy has to have some of the best runs for losses that I've ever seen.
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Ya, there will be another similar. It may take awhile but there's always another that will have similar talent, he was human after all.
 
If he had kept playing until he really declined, the "best RB ever" talk by anyone w/a clue would almost always be about Payton, Brown, and him, then the rest (personally I think it's a 2-horse race minus him anyway, but we've been down that path already....).

 
prymetyme25 said:
I'm watching the Barry Sanders special on NFLN and was watching his runs (in amazement I might add) and wondering to myself will there ever be another rb to give given that kind of freedom again? Now if a rb loses 2 yards on back to back plays he's pretty much done for the game but barry did it all the time but you knew he was gonna break one sooner or later. So the question is do you guys think a coach would ever put that much faith in a rb again?This guy has to have some of the best runs for losses that I've ever seen.
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I've always felt his negative yardage plays received more attention than they really warranted from a football worth because of how spectacular his runs were even when they were for a loss.It isn't like he had 2 or 3 runs for a loss every series. On a per game basis, on average he would have around 7 yards worth of losses and gain 107 positive rushing yards. Compare him to another of the great RBs of all time, Walter Payton who on a per game basis would lose around 4 yards a game and gain 92 positive rushing yards. 3 negative yards per game more isn't a huge difference vs the amount of total yardage a team puts up in a game. One would have to debate if the extra 15 positive yards a game from Barry are enough to keep a drive going to equal out any where the extra negative run or two might have hurt a drive and caused it to fail.
 
perry147 said:
Sinrman said:
Ned said:
prymetyme25 said:
Now if a rb loses 2 yards on back to back plays he's pretty much done for the game
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huh? :thumbup:
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He's basically saying that there were times where a special RB like Barry might get stopped for a loss on back to back plays, and the coach still had faith in him and would keep him in and churning away. Would a coach nodays have enough faith to let one do it in today's game?A few are given that luxury, such as LaDainian. But not many. Many would stray away from the run for a little while...
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Did any of you watch the Ravens last year with Lewis?
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Different type of loss yards Barry would actually run backwards. I dont think a rb now could ever get away with that.
 
Mike said:
Any coach worth his salt would not put up with it, teach the RB to prevent losing yards on a high % of plays, and hopefully the RB would be professional and receptive to that criticism/teaching.
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Fonts: Mr. Sanders please don't loose yards Barry: ChucklesFonts: Well I wouldn't be a good coach if I let you run the way you do. You have too many negative plays.Ford: Fonts!!! Pack up your #### and get outFonts: I'm just trying to be worth my salt
 
GregR said:
prymetyme25 said:
I'm watching the Barry Sanders special on NFLN and was watching his runs (in amazement I might add) and wondering to myself will there ever be another rb to give given that kind of freedom again? Now if a rb loses 2 yards on back to back plays he's pretty much done for the game but barry did it all the time but you knew he was gonna break one sooner or later. So the question is do you guys think a coach would ever put that much faith in a rb again?This guy has to have some of the best runs for losses that I've ever seen.
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I've always felt his negative yardage plays received more attention than they really warranted from a football worth because of how spectacular his runs were even when they were for a loss.It isn't like he had 2 or 3 runs for a loss every series. On a per game basis, on average he would have around 7 yards worth of losses and gain 107 positive rushing yards. Compare him to another of the great RBs of all time, Walter Payton who on a per game basis would lose around 4 yards a game and gain 92 positive rushing yards. 3 negative yards per game more isn't a huge difference vs the amount of total yardage a team puts up in a game. One would have to debate if the extra 15 positive yards a game from Barry are enough to keep a drive going to equal out any where the extra negative run or two might have hurt a drive and caused it to fail.
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:fishing:
 
prymetyme25 said:
QUEZILLA said:
You probably saw a ton of Buccaneer orange if you were watching Barry highlights. :gang1:
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He actually made the Bears and Packers look worse.
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I think he actually set a few of his longest runs against Tampa. I was at the game he lost his shoe in, and actually met him the day before in the visitor locker room. I am related by mairrage to the guy who was D coordinator at the time for Det. Got his autograph a few times, and all. I was about 10 yo, and was about as tall as him. Very nice soft spoken guy from what I can remember.
 
QUEZILLA said:
I think he actually set a few of his longest runs against Tampa.
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I always thought Hardy was best at trying to stop him, too bad he didn't have any help.There were a few Bucs game where Barry was like 18 for 22-25 yards and then boom he was gone for a long one. It was like Barry vs Hardy and 20 high school players playing.Re-the negative yardage, what a treat for a player to try so hard to do well despite his team not getting much for talent around him. As far as linemen go it couldn't be that hard to find some that would want to block for a 'back like him. Their passing offense that became very good was surely due to some help from him. If the D blitzed and he got by them, automatic TD. They still blitzed but they really had to be careful about when they did and it had to make Mitchell's life easier
 
Barry Sanders was my childhood hero, and my favorite football player of all time. I always thought he played the game beautifully, and was a class act. He was everything I wanted in an athlete: humble, gifted, and a quality person.

I don't post too much on here, mainly due to the combative nature of most threads, but I thought it was really nice to see everyones response and admiration for Barry. It's nice to see how much joy his play brought to fans. Just a testament to him.

 
waylander said:
Barry Sanders was my childhood hero, and my favorite football player of all time. I always thought he played the game beautifully, and was a class act. He was everything I wanted in an athlete: humble, gifted, and a quality person.I don't post too much on here, mainly due to the combative nature of most threads, but I thought it was really nice to see everyones response and admiration for Barry. It's nice to see how much joy his play brought to fans. Just a testament to him.
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What he said.My first football memory was his first carry at OSU, jaw dropping. He was SICK in college, and IMHO the greatest runner ever in the NFL.
 
I don't think Thanksgiving will ever be the same without Barry and I remain curious as to how much of an influence Bobby Ross actually had on his decision to hang them up- I do believe there will be another exciting player though, maybe just not the same level of hype though as we've now seen it, i.e Jordan isn't matched by either LeBron or Kobe but both can equally dominate a game.

 
Iwannabeacowboybaby! said:
prymetyme25 said:
I'm watching the Barry Sanders special on NFLN and was watching his runs (in amazement I might add) and wondering to myself will there ever be another rb to give given that kind of freedom again? Now if a rb loses 2 yards on back to back plays he's pretty much done for the game but barry did it all the time but you knew he was gonna break one sooner or later.

So the question is do you guys think a coach would ever put that much faith in a rb again?

This guy has to have some of the best runs for losses that I've ever seen.
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Ya, there will be another similar. It may take awhile but there's always another that will have similar talent, he was human after all.
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:banned: :coffee:
 
I still can't believe I'm seeing him outclass outstanding athletes in the NFL the way he did when I'm watching replays. He's making first class NFL players look ridiculous.

 
TheLastDispatch said:
Iwannabeacowboybaby! said:
prymetyme25 said:
I'm watching the Barry Sanders special on NFLN and was watching his runs (in amazement I might add) and wondering to myself will there ever be another rb to give given that kind of freedom again? Now if a rb loses 2 yards on back to back plays he's pretty much done for the game but barry did it all the time but you knew he was gonna break one sooner or later.

So the question is do you guys think a coach would ever put that much faith in a rb again?

This guy has to have some of the best runs for losses that I've ever seen.
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Ya, there will be another similar. It may take awhile but there's always another that will have similar talent, he was human after all.
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:bs: :confused:
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:goodposting: I really don't think we'll ever see anyone like Barry again. He was just too talented.

 
the saddest day of my life as a sports fan was when barry retired. i just wish he played for a franchise that cared as much about winning as he did.

 
hutchins929 said:
Fonts: Mr. Sanders please don't loose yards Barry: ChucklesFonts: Well I wouldn't be a good coach if I let you run the way you do. You have too many negative plays.Ford: Fonts!!! Pack up your #### and get outFonts: I'm just trying to be worth my salt
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Now that is some funny commentary.
 
Just think what kind of numbers he could have put up with a good coach. 2000 yards rushing and 25 TDs would have been the norm if he had a coach that would have pushed him to hit the hole hard and make all of those moves 5 yards downfield instead of in the backfield. Obviously there wasn't always a hole in front of him but that's coaching too.

 
Bri said:
I always thought Hardy was best at trying to stop him, too bad he didn't have any help.

There were a few Bucs game where Barry was like 18 for 22-25 yards and then boom he was gone for a long one. It was like Barry vs Hardy and 20 high school players playing.
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:yes: so true..
 
Im not putting him in Barry's class - but............

I like MJD and see his running style to be very similar to Barry. Not exactly, but similar. I haven't seen a running back who could dip in and out of seams the way MJD does since Barry. Plus I see MJD as having more top end speed right now.

But there will never be another like Barry. Nor Sayers. Nor Emmit. Or even a Thurman (who I always thought was one of the more balanced RBs).

Amd I miss him on Thanksgiving too.

 
Hairy Snowman said:
Im not putting him in Barry's class - but............I like MJD and see his running style to be very similar to Barry. Not exactly, but similar. I haven't seen a running back who could dip in and out of seams the way MJD does since Barry. Plus I see MJD as having more top end speed right now.But there will never be another like Barry. Nor Sayers. Nor Emmit. Or even a Thurman (who I always thought was one of the more balanced RBs).Amd I miss him on Thanksgiving too.
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:blackdot: I think you may be right. I was watching some Jax footage and thinking the samething. But like I said before I doubt if another coach would put that amount of faith in a guy and let him dance like Barry. Hmm... I wonder what kind of moves he could show on Dancing With the Stars.. :thumbup:
 
prymetyme25 said:
Hairy Snowman said:
Im not putting him in Barry's class - but............I like MJD and see his running style to be very similar to Barry. Not exactly, but similar. I haven't seen a running back who could dip in and out of seams the way MJD does since Barry. Plus I see MJD as having more top end speed right now.But there will never be another like Barry. Nor Sayers. Nor Emmit. Or even a Thurman (who I always thought was one of the more balanced RBs).Amd I miss him on Thanksgiving too.
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:goodposting: I think you may be right. I was watching some Jax footage and thinking the samething. But like I said before I doubt if another coach would put that amount of faith in a guy and let him dance like Barry. Hmm... I wonder what kind of moves he could show on Dancing With the Stars.. :lmao:
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:shock: You are aware that he didn't dance behind the line for the fun of it, right? It was because he had nowhere to go.
 
He's too small and runs too upright in the open field. Also, he's not a very good pass blocker. I don't think that he'll make it as an everydown back in the NFL.

 
Grigs Allmoon said:
prymetyme25 said:
Hairy Snowman said:
Im not putting him in Barry's class - but............I like MJD and see his running style to be very similar to Barry. Not exactly, but similar. I haven't seen a running back who could dip in and out of seams the way MJD does since Barry. Plus I see MJD as having more top end speed right now.But there will never be another like Barry. Nor Sayers. Nor Emmit. Or even a Thurman (who I always thought was one of the more balanced RBs).Amd I miss him on Thanksgiving too.
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:thumbdown: I think you may be right. I was watching some Jax footage and thinking the samething. But like I said before I doubt if another coach would put that amount of faith in a guy and let him dance like Barry. Hmm... I wonder what kind of moves he could show on Dancing With the Stars.. :lmao:
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:rolleyes: You are aware that he didn't dance behind the line for the fun of it, right? It was because he had nowhere to go.
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I do know that but most coaches are so full of themselves that they blame the RB for that and yank them when it happens or tells then to run where the play i designed to go.
 
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