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Baseball is on....what are you watching now instead? (1 Viewer)

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What is this crap? I watch the Series. I haven't missed the Series in years. Even when I was in the cooler....they run it
there or they'll have a riot. What's the matter with you guys  Come on, be good Americans!
 
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That was awesome and would have been even better were it not for tree nagging suspicion that it was rigged.

NFL ratings are down and the Cubs win the series? I mean, COME ON! Have a little subtlety.

:tinfoilhat:

 
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I am not a baseball fan so I did not watch the game(s) but I am a fan of sports trends and TV ratings and I do a lot of reading on the subject.  Here are some thoughts I can share on the topic in case anyone is interested

* For years baseball's demographics have been aging.  They are particularly weak in the 18-35 bracket where the "younger" sports like MMA, Basketball and Soccer have taken a huge chunk from them.

* More importantly for sponsors, every year seems to bring a new article saying that baseball is shedding fans in the key demo of 18-49 year olds.

* It should be noted that while the age of the average baseball fan certainly seems to be increasing, it is not in any way affecting game day revenue which continues to run at a strong pace

* We can not make many judgements about how the aging group is affecting TV because we are at a moment in TV history where the broadcasters are paying for sports for reasons far beyond what they can charge per add minute on tv.  In any case, it does not seem to be hurting baseball.

* This World Series was the highest average rated series since 2004.  Last nights game was the most watched single baseball game since way back in 1991

* However that 2004 year should be looked at closely.  It also contained a novelty item in the Red Sox finally winning, similar to the Cubs. 

* So the real question to me is, will baseball be able to convert the large group of casual viewers who tuned in due to the novelty factor to more frequent fans or does it more go inline with the 2004 series which turned out to be a blip instead of a trend?

It will probably take years to know one way or another but fun to watch.

 
NewlyRetired said:
I am not a baseball fan so I did not watch the game(s) but I am a fan of sports trends and TV ratings and I do a lot of reading on the subject.  Here are some thoughts I can share on the topic in case anyone is interested

* For years baseball's demographics have been aging.  They are particularly weak in the 18-35 bracket where the "younger" sports like MMA, Basketball and Soccer have taken a huge chunk from them.

* More importantly for sponsors, every year seems to bring a new article saying that baseball is shedding fans in the key demo of 18-49 year olds.

* It should be noted that while the age of the average baseball fan certainly seems to be increasing, it is not in any way affecting game day revenue which continues to run at a strong pace

* We can not make many judgements about how the aging group is affecting TV because we are at a moment in TV history where the broadcasters are paying for sports for reasons far beyond what they can charge per add minute on tv.  In any case, it does not seem to be hurting baseball.

* This World Series was the highest average rated series since 2004.  Last nights game was the most watched single baseball game since way back in 1991

* However that 2004 year should be looked at closely.  It also contained a novelty item in the Red Sox finally winning, similar to the Cubs. 

* So the real question to me is, will baseball be able to convert the large group of casual viewers who tuned in due to the novelty factor to more frequent fans or does it more go inline with the 2004 series which turned out to be a blip instead of a trend?

It will probably take years to know one way or another but fun to watch.
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Am I right in that a far lower percentage of baseball revenues are television-based than football and basketball? I follow sports fandom trends pretty closely, too, and I've been reading that, while national ratings are down for the NFL, local interest remains as strong as ever. People identify and follow their local teams as much as ever. Which makes me think that baseball could lose a huge chunk of tv revenues and still be financially healthy for a while. At least until that creaky old fan base walks off into that great cornfield.

 
roadkill1292 said:
Am I right in that a far lower percentage of baseball revenues are television-based than football and basketball? 
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This is correct.  That is why I mentioned "game day revenue" remains strong for baseball, in the above post.

Because baseball plays so many more games than the other sports, its game day revenue remains an important component of their overall revenue structure.  Baseball comfortably draws more than 70 million fans to the parks every summer.   

The NFL with its significantly lower amount of games draws around 17 million fans per year.  Even with higher prices across the board, the NFL does not achieve the level of game day revenue that MLB does.

 
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NewlyRetired said:
This is correct.  That is why I mentioned "game day revenue" remains strong for baseball, in the above post.

Because baseball plays so many more games than the other sports, its game day revenue remains an important component of their overall revenue structure.  Baseball comfortably draws more than 70 million fans to the parks every summer.   

The NFL with its significantly lower amount of games draws around 17 million fans per year.  Even with higher prices across the board, the NFL does not achieve the level of game day revenue that MLB does.
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Surely there must be increased costs of stadium operations, groundskeeping, concessions, etc. as well.  Gameday revenue is significantly higher as they have 10x as many games as the NFL, but the cost of stadium operations must eat into some of that, I would imagine.

 
Steve Tasker said:
Surely there must be increased costs of stadium operations, groundskeeping, concessions, etc. as well.  Gameday revenue is significantly higher as they have 10x as many games as the NFL, but the cost of stadium operations must eat into some of that, I would imagine.
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 Revenue has to always significantly out perform operation cost or the whole stadium plan will collapse financially.

There is no worse use of a stadium financially than to have it sit unused.  For example empty stadium parking lots make no money.  But during game day you hire a bunch of people to wave flags, pay them minimum wage and rake in a TON of revenue for extremely little operation cost.

It is significantly better to be drawing stadium revenue from game day use (which is why NFL stadiums try and get as much cross usage as possible from other sports, concerts etc) than to have it sit idle.

 
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baseball tickets are so cheap that people will go just to socialize, people watch and eat junk food for a few hours. There's no tailgating so the concessions will rake in the cash there too.

 
Do people tailgate at baseball games? With the usual 7:15pm start time, I've always rushed to the park after work to make the first pitch. Food, beer and desserts are all purchased inside the stadium.

 
 
EYLive said:
Do people tailgate at baseball games? With the usual 7:15pm start time, I've always rushed to the park after work to make the first pitch. Food, beer and desserts are all purchased inside the stadium.
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Well not like football and not everyday but yes here there is some tailgating. But you are right. During the week not a huge occurrence here

 
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