Baseball lost me with their last strike (1 Viewer)

[Ballstein]

I stopped 10 years ago, when I realized baseball sucks. It's dying every day.

 

[FantasyTrader]

I will come back, and actually I would not mind it at all it they took a season off. Would probably start enoying my Sundays again.

Here here. I'll be back regardless, but would welcome a year off with open arms. I've always wanted to dabble with college fantasy but can't justify the amount of time I'd need to spend on Sat. AND Sun.

 

[SuperJohn96]

If it wasnt for fantasy football i wouldnt pay attention to it this much. Reason...Goodell. He is trying to fix what isn't broken at the cost of the sport itself. Fans want a 18 game schedule...no we dont.Fans want games out of the states...no we don't.

You know...as a Canadian who was a diehard NHL fan...the NHL did the same thing to hockey.Canada and a few select US markets were their core fan base, and they kept expanding the schedule and kept whoring themselves out to expansion dollars in "hockey hotbeds" like Florida, Arizona, California, Dallas, etc...Then they stopped playing and I just stopped caring.Same thing happened with me and baseball...I went one game maybe 10 years after the strike, and I just didn't care.I hope they don't stop playing, because I don't know if I will come back.

 

[Choke]

Far more concerned about the vagification that the league is trying to insist upon.

 

[cvnpoka]

It depends. I'll still be a fan of the NFL but if they go down the same road as the NBA then all bets are off. The NBA is full of overhyped duds that ESPN and the NBA sells as the best thing since sliced bread....a true fan knows better. The game is unwatchable and I hope the NFL doesn't get to that point.

lol at nba haters. talent level is at an all time high and if you cant recognize that, then no, you arent a true fan.as for the nfl, ill still watch, but right now the only reason i watch is bc its the perfect sport for fantasy and gambling. its an insuperior, abbreviated, luck driven product in comparison to more exciting sports like nba and world class soccer.

 

[cvnpoka]

Yes. Honestly, the only reason I pay attention is because of fantasy football. There are a lot of problems the league has failed to address, while concerning itself with non-issues instead. My list of complaints include:

1) Lack of a solid PED drug testing policy; I hate to see cheaters prosper and the game is infected much worse than any of us know.

2) Lack of quality refereeing, lack of system to ensure that the refs are not compromised by gambling industry, and a need to simplify the rules so that a fan can tell when a fumble is a fumble and a catch is a catch, without needing to be a lawyer. It's a simple game and shouldn't be so complicated; and beyond that, I am not at all convinced that the integrity of the game hasn't been compromised.

3) I hate how the league and teams blackmail cities into spending hundreds of millions of dollars to provide the billionaire owners and millionaire players with a place of business. Meanwhile, they raise ticket prices even more so the average person cannot bring his family. AI hate how they claim the team's own the naming rights...to a stadium they didn't fund. And then call the revenue from the naming rights the "teams' contribution." The whole thing smacks of Corporate Welfare, and at a time when we are massively underfunding public schools and screaming bloody crazy about providing public assistance so people can get health care, I think it is pretty irresponsible.

4) I hate the exclusive deals they have with DirectTV, effectively raping fans who want to watch their favorite team. It's a monopoly, and it should be illegal.

The NFL as a business pretends to be about the fans and about loyalty and about principles of hardwork and teamwork and so on, but it really is about money today. It wasn't always this way. And that makes me sad.

great post until the bolded.

 

[Choke]

its an insuperior, abbreviated, luck driven product in comparison to more exciting sports like nba and world class soccer.

Holy ####... for a minute I thought you were serious. You got me!

 

[Steve Tasker]

its an insuperior, abbreviated, luck driven product in comparison to more exciting sports like nba and world class soccer.

Holy ####... for a minute I thought you were serious. You got me!

NBA no, but world class soccer is far, far, far more exciting than the NFL. The NFL has been on decline, for me, for a number of years. I've given up on FF...I play in one league and plan to quit next year. I watch the Bills game on Sundays and very little else - I'll watch a few drives of a good game involving the Pats/Jets/Colts, etc. but I rarely sit down and watch a non-Bills game for more than 15 minutes at a time.It's not about wussification...it's about over-saturation. The NFL is everywhere you look....and the product isn't as exciting, IMO, as college football. The games are way too long, the "characters" are tired and annoying, and the game simply isn't as fun to watch as a good, close college game.I will always be a diehard Bills fan, and I would come back (as long as the Bills stay in town). But the NFL has been losing my attention for years...and a lockout wouldn't help.

 

[kinghill]

The NFL has been on decline, for me, for a number of years. ...I watch the Bills game on Sundays and very little else

 

[Runningman]

Depends a lot on how it plays out. I can envision a scanario where it would sour me quite a lot on the sport.

 

[EBF]

I find myself less interested in the NFL than I have been in the past. I like football, but I don't like the fact that the game is inherently unhealthy for the players and I think Roger Goodell is a massive tool. In the past few months I have watched more soccer games than NFL games, although I have been enjoying this Stanford football season quite a bit.

 

[Steve Tasker]

The NFL has been on decline, for me, for a number of years. ...I watch the Bills game on Sundays and very little else

Well, sure....but in prior years, I've had no trouble wasting all day Sunday watching football, watching MNF exclusively, etc. The Bills haven't been good in 10 years...but the last two years, specifically, I've just stopped caring. It seems like every time I turn on ESPN, it's more NFL chatter about Brett Favre or Ochocinco or Rex Ryan, etc...frankly, I'm just sick of it. I can't watch ESPN other than actual sporting events anymore, either.

 

[omahabrad]

My wife would jump for joy if there were no NFL season and I might actually find something to do on sundays.

 

[Jagov]

Strike or not, I'll be less interested next year and am close to bailing on everything but the weekly Steeler game. No more fantasy, full Sundays of games, etc

There is just too much stuff that is not even close to what I know as football. Roger and his junta, greed, stupid show offs, etc

Guys like Peyton Hillis, Hines Ward and Ray Lewis are becoming extinct. Idiots and spoiled kids like Roger, Ocho, TO, Moss, Vick, Big Ben, Rivers, Favre suck up all the attention and have ruined what used to be a great thing.

I believe that I am in the minority here and I guess there were others in the past who thought the same when the face mask was introduced and other changes were made. Regardless, it still feels like being robbed of something important.

So you group Ray Lewis with the guys who aren't show-offs and you lump Rivers in with the spoiled kids who are ruining the game? Are you sure you're watching the same games as me?

I am quite certain that we are watching the same games; there is only one NFL AFAIK. The OP basically asked for various points of view on this subject. I have shared mine as you have seen and there are apparently parts of it that you do not agree with. Fair enough, this is a normal thing in life. Well in my life anyway

It could be that you have lost sight of my main message by focusing on the specific players that I listed. Players aside ... do you see anything valid in my post regarding the direction that the NFL is currently going in? Care to share YOUR thoughts on this topic?

 

[Crusaderfan]

I stopped 10 years ago, when I realized baseball sucks. It's dying every day.

Guess you're not from Philly. It's very alive and well here.I'm not sure how I will react to a football strike but probably not well. I was a die-hard hockey fan and they pretty much lost me with their last strike (2004-2005). Still tune-in once in awhile but before the strike, I rarely missed a game.

 

[Please See Mine]

I stopped 10 years ago, when I realized baseball sucks. It's dying every day.

Guess you're not from Philly. It's very alive and well here.I'm not sure how I will react to a football strike but probably not well. I was a die-hard hockey fan and they pretty much lost me with their last strike (2004-2005). Still tune-in once in awhile but before the strike, I rarely missed a game.

yeah, all it took was a world series championship.

 

[renesauz]

Post #11

If this is just fun talk I understand but there will not be a lockout next year. The owners are making entirely too much money to stop the gravy train right now.

Except the TV deal negotiated by the owners with the networks guarantees that they'll get their money regardless of whether games are played or not. The players are the ones with no leverage here.

Be careful with this "fact". It's misleading. Any TV money the owners collect during the lockout would be a loan..they have to pay it back.

 

[dennis.moore]

I stopped 10 years ago, when I realized baseball sucks. It's dying every day.

Baseball is far from dying. Thanks for playing.

 

[Crusaderfan]

I stopped 10 years ago, when I realized baseball sucks. It's dying every day.

Guess you're not from Philly. It's very alive and well here.I'm not sure how I will react to a football strike but probably not well. I was a die-hard hockey fan and they pretty much lost me with their last strike (2004-2005). Still tune-in once in awhile but before the strike, I rarely missed a game.

yeah, all it took was a world series championship.

That didn't hurt but since the new stadium (2004) they have put well over 3 million butts in their seats every year except two years (2.6M & 2.7M).

 

[SwampDawg]

I guess to some extent it will, I paid less attention to baseball after the strike for awhile, really all that brought me back was the Yankees great run in the late 90's and the fact it had been awhile since they had been really good. That said I don't watch like I did in the 80's but I was also a kid/teenager then with less on my plate.

I'd drop Sunday ticket for sure and would take great incentive to get me back on it, college football does little for me until they get a playoff, too much chest beating about what conference is so great and why so I guess through October I'd have more time to golf, November to January is where I would miss it and what might draw me back is that I have little interest in the NBA and none at all in the NHL so not much else sports wise going on then.