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Bears v/s Chargers Official Game Thread (1 Viewer)

Sweetness_34

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< 1 week to go now.....fire this puppy up now. Anything on this game including in-game comments, post it here. Pin this mods.

Here is a nice article about some cool sub plots in this game.....easily the best game of the week.....maybe a SB preview already

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L.T., Turner, Rivera all part of subplots when Bears visit Chargers

By BERNIE WILSON - AP Sports Writer

2007-09-03 18:34

SAN DIEGO (AP) -There won't be any shortage of subplots and motivational factors when the Chicago Bears visit the San Diego Chargers in a season opener Sunday.

First off, there's that shoe commercial in which reigning NFL MVP LaDainian Tomlinson spins and slashes through the Bears for a long touchdown run, leaving several defenders grasping at air and sprawled on the ground.

``Was that against the Bears?'' Tomlinson said Monday, feigning ignorance.

Yes it was, and it also features appearances by fellow Chargers stars Philip Rivers, Antonio Gates and Shawne Merriman. The ad begins with the Chargers trailing 22-17 with 10 seconds left in the fourth quarter.

Tomlinson said he's heard that Bears middle linebacker Brian Urlacher isn't thrilled with how the Bears' defense - one of the league's best - is portrayed.

``I'm pretty sure they're not happy about it,'' Tomlinson said. ``In fact I read something somebody sent me that Urlacher said to ask me how many yards I had the last time I played them four years ago. There you go. That tells me how they feel about it.''

For the record, the Bears held Tomlinson to 61 yards and one touchdown on 16 carries in 2003, when the Bears won 20-7 at Soldier Field.

The teams haven't played since.

The Bears' defense is ``aggressive and fast and smart. We're going to have a big challenge,'' Tomlinson said.

``Once you start playing and you're three to four plays into the game, I don't think there's anyone in Chicago who's going to be thinking about the Nike commercial,'' Chargers coach Norv Turner said.

Then there's Ron Rivera, who went from being the Bears' defensive coordinator to working as San Diego's linebackers coach.

Two weeks after the Bears lost the Super Bowl to Indianapolis, Rivera interviewed for but didn't get the job that went to Turner. On the same day the Chargers hired Turner, the Bears told Rivera his contract wouldn't be renewed. Hours later, the Chargers brought Rivera on board.

Having Rivera on his staff ``helps a lot,'' Turner said. ``I think he's been a good insight to both sides of the ball. He's been there and he knows the personnel. Obviously once the game starts, the players decide the game. If it gives us a little insight to what they're thinking, then it is a help.''

A team spokesman said Rivera wouldn't be speaking with reporters this week.

``My guess is that Ron decided it would be best for him not to,'' Turner said. ``It certainly wasn't initiated by me. I think I was in his position last year and I don't think I did any either, so sometimes it's the best way to go.''

Turner was fired by the Oakland Raiders following the 2005 season, then hired as offensive coordinator of the San Francisco 49ers. The 49ers beat the Raiders last season.

The Bears aren't overly concerned.

``He's been in the system here, he knows what we do, but we're not doing everything exactly the same,'' cornerback Nathan Vasher said.

``If I were on the coaching staff out there, I would pick his mind constantly,'' wide receiver Muhsin Muhammad said. ``If I were a player out there, I would be asking about all the guys. They've got a good advantage with coach Rivera out there, but you've got to line up, you've got to play. It's still a game of talent. Rivera can't be out there.''

As cornerback Ricky Manning Jr. said, ``That's the NFL. You see it all the time. ... It'll be fun. I'm pretty sure they're trying to get any information they can from him.''

Rivers said Rivera will be an asset, to a point.

``Obviously they'll do some different things. They know he's here, too,'' Rivers said. ``At the same time you don't want to get too caught up in what they've done and what he knows, then your mind's bogged down. So I think you use what you can to help you. It's still going to happen in between the lines on Sunday.''

Then there will be Turner versus Turner: Norv against his younger brother, Ron, the Bears' offensive coordinator.

Family pride won't be an issue, Norv Turner said.

``We're way past that, you know? You play a lot of games and you play against a lot of your real close friends and all that. But we all know what this is about. It's about our football team getting prepared to do the best we can. Do everything you can to win.

``We've done this four or five times and we really don't talk much about it. You know it's there, you've got family members involved and all those things, but it's really not an issue,'' Turner said.

---

AP Sports Writer Andrew Seligman in Chicago contributed to this report.

http://wcoff.rtsports.com/php/nfl-content....5b062be31a0f7f2

 
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I like IND v. NO better, personally.
None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.
Bears can play Offense? News to me.
Maybe you should watch more football....look at the stats shown below. Oh, and their worst scoring game (7 pts) was in the last meaningless game where they did not care and benched everyone at half time. Next time, bring some facts to the party :) Bears points scored first for all games below:

26-0

34-7

19-16

37-6

40-7

24-23

41-10

13-31

38-20

10-0

13-17

23-13

42-27

34-31

26-21

7-26

NFL Ranks for Offense Scoring for 2006 Regular season (Chargers & Bears were 1 & 2):

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Pts Pts/G Rsh Rec PRet KRet INT FUM Blk FG Blk Pnt XPM FGM SFTY 2-PT

1 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 492 30.8 32 24 0 0 0 3 0 0 58 26 0 1

2 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 14 24 3 2 1 2 0 0 47 32 1 0

2 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 17 31 1 0 0 1 0 0 47 26 0 1

4 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 425 26.6 21 26 1 0 3 1 0 0 49 20 0 2

5 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 413 25.8 19 27 1 0 0 1 0 1 46 23 0 2

6 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 398 24.9 13 31 0 0 4 1 0 0 48 18 0 1

7 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 385 24.1 20 25 0 1 0 0 0 0 43 20 1 2

8 Cincinnati Bengals 16 23.3 373 373 23.3 14 28 0 0 1 0 0 0 40 25 0 0

9 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 23.2 371 371 23.2 23 17 0 1 1 0 0 0 41 26 0 0

10 St. Louis Rams 16 22.9 367 367 22.9 13 24 0 0 1 1 0 0 35 32 0 1

11 New York Giants 16 22.2 355 355 22.2 14 24 0 0 2 1 0 0 38 23 1 0

12 Baltimore Ravens 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 11 21 0 0 5 1 0 0 37 28 2 0

12 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 16 23 1 0 2 0 0 0 41 20 0 0

14 Seattle Seahawks 16 20.9 335 335 20.9 8 26 1 0 1 1 0 0 36 25 0 1

15 Kansas City Chiefs 16 20.7 331 331 20.7 17 18 1 0 0 0 0 1 35 24 0 1

16 Tennessee Titans 16 20.2 324 324 20.2 15 13 3 0 2 3 0 0 32 22 2 3

17 Denver Broncos 16 19.9 319 319 19.9 12 20 0 0 2 0 0 0 34 27 0 0

18 New York Jets 16 19.8 316 316 19.8 15 17 0 2 0 1 0 0 34 24 0 0

19 Arizona Cardinals 16 19.6 314 314 19.6 12 17 0 1 1 2 0 0 32 28 0 0

20 Washington Redskins 16 19.2 307 307 19.2 13 19 1 1 0 0 0 0 31 22 1 2

21 Detroit Lions 16 19.1 305 305 19.1 9 21 0 0 1 0 0 0 30 29 1 0

22 Green Bay Packers 16 18.8 301 301 18.8 9 18 0 0 4 1 0 0 31 26 0 0

23 Buffalo Bills 16 18.8 300 300 18.8 9 19 1 0 2 2 0 0 33 23 0 0

24 San Francisco 49ers 16 18.6 298 298 18.6 12 16 0 0 1 1 0 0 29 29 1 0

25 Atlanta Falcons 16 18.2 292 292 18.2 9 21 0 0 1 1 0 0 31 23 0 0

26 Minnesota Vikings 16 17.6 282 282 17.6 12 13 1 0 3 3 0 0 27 21 0 0

27 Carolina Panthers 16 16.9 270 270 16.9 7 19 0 0 2 0 0 0 28 24 1 0

28 Houston Texans 16 16.7 267 267 16.7 13 14 0 0 1 2 0 0 26 19 0 2

29 Miami Dolphins 16 16.2 260 260 16.2 7 16 0 0 2 1 0 0 22 26 0 2

30 Cleveland Browns 16 14.9 238 238 14.9 7 15 0 1 1 1 0 0 25 21 0 0

31 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 13.2 211 211 13.2 6 14 0 0 3 0 0 0 22 17 0 0

32 Oakland Raiders 16 10.5 168 168 10.5 5 7 0 0 2 2 0 0 16 18 1 0

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?arc...amp;Submit=Find

 
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OP, please post a hyperlink to the original article, especially if you're going to cut and paste the entire thing. It's the right thing to do. TIA.

 
OP, please post a hyperlink to the original article, especially if you're going to cut and paste the entire thing. It's the right thing to do. TIA.
I found it at rtsports at my wcoff sat league site. I posted the link from there (not sure if it will work though). Thanks for the advice..... :crazy:
 
I like IND v. NO better, personally.
None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.
Bears can play Offense? News to me.
Maybe you should watch more football....look at the stats shown below. Oh, and their worst scoring game (7 pts) was in the last meaningless game where they did not care and benched everyone at half time. Next time, bring some facts to the party :popcorn: Bears points scored first for all games below:

26-0

34-7

19-16

37-6

40-7

24-23

41-10

13-31

38-20

10-0

13-17

23-13

42-27

34-31

26-21

7-26

NFL Ranks for Offense Scoring for 2006 Regular season (Chargers & Bears were 1 & 2):

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Pts Pts/G Rsh Rec PRet KRet INT FUM Blk FG Blk Pnt XPM FGM SFTY 2-PT

1 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 492 30.8 32 24 0 0 0 3 0 0 58 26 0 1

2 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 14 24 3 2 1 2 0 0 47 32 1 0

2 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 17 31 1 0 0 1 0 0 47 26 0 1

4 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 425 26.6 21 26 1 0 3 1 0 0 49 20 0 2

5 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 413 25.8 19 27 1 0 0 1 0 1 46 23 0 2

6 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 398 24.9 13 31 0 0 4 1 0 0 48 18 0 1

7 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 385 24.1 20 25 0 1 0 0 0 0 43 20 1 2

8 Cincinnati Bengals 16 23.3 373 373 23.3 14 28 0 0 1 0 0 0 40 25 0 0

9 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 23.2 371 371 23.2 23 17 0 1 1 0 0 0 41 26 0 0

10 St. Louis Rams 16 22.9 367 367 22.9 13 24 0 0 1 1 0 0 35 32 0 1

11 New York Giants 16 22.2 355 355 22.2 14 24 0 0 2 1 0 0 38 23 1 0

12 Baltimore Ravens 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 11 21 0 0 5 1 0 0 37 28 2 0

12 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 16 23 1 0 2 0 0 0 41 20 0 0

14 Seattle Seahawks 16 20.9 335 335 20.9 8 26 1 0 1 1 0 0 36 25 0 1

15 Kansas City Chiefs 16 20.7 331 331 20.7 17 18 1 0 0 0 0 1 35 24 0 1

16 Tennessee Titans 16 20.2 324 324 20.2 15 13 3 0 2 3 0 0 32 22 2 3

17 Denver Broncos 16 19.9 319 319 19.9 12 20 0 0 2 0 0 0 34 27 0 0

18 New York Jets 16 19.8 316 316 19.8 15 17 0 2 0 1 0 0 34 24 0 0

19 Arizona Cardinals 16 19.6 314 314 19.6 12 17 0 1 1 2 0 0 32 28 0 0

20 Washington Redskins 16 19.2 307 307 19.2 13 19 1 1 0 0 0 0 31 22 1 2

21 Detroit Lions 16 19.1 305 305 19.1 9 21 0 0 1 0 0 0 30 29 1 0

22 Green Bay Packers 16 18.8 301 301 18.8 9 18 0 0 4 1 0 0 31 26 0 0

23 Buffalo Bills 16 18.8 300 300 18.8 9 19 1 0 2 2 0 0 33 23 0 0

24 San Francisco 49ers 16 18.6 298 298 18.6 12 16 0 0 1 1 0 0 29 29 1 0

25 Atlanta Falcons 16 18.2 292 292 18.2 9 21 0 0 1 1 0 0 31 23 0 0

26 Minnesota Vikings 16 17.6 282 282 17.6 12 13 1 0 3 3 0 0 27 21 0 0

27 Carolina Panthers 16 16.9 270 270 16.9 7 19 0 0 2 0 0 0 28 24 1 0

28 Houston Texans 16 16.7 267 267 16.7 13 14 0 0 1 2 0 0 26 19 0 2

29 Miami Dolphins 16 16.2 260 260 16.2 7 16 0 0 2 1 0 0 22 26 0 2

30 Cleveland Browns 16 14.9 238 238 14.9 7 15 0 1 1 1 0 0 25 21 0 0

31 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 13.2 211 211 13.2 6 14 0 0 3 0 0 0 22 17 0 0

32 Oakland Raiders 16 10.5 168 168 10.5 5 7 0 0 2 2 0 0 16 18 1 0

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?arc...amp;Submit=Find
:rolleyes:
 
Every time I see LT posing in the end zone i throw something not very valuable at the T.V and yell like a beligerent drunk, I can just imagine what the actual Bears players think of it.... :rolleyes:

I can't wait to see the Bear D under Bob Babich, I for one grew tired of the inexperienced Rivera

Benson's first game as a starter with a huge tough match up, How he will respond?

Has Grossman corrected his problems.

How will Hester be involved in the gameplan

and many more...

I CANT WAIT

 
I like IND v. NO better, personally.
None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.
Bears can play Offense? News to me.
Maybe you should watch more football....look at the stats shown below. Oh, and their worst scoring game (7 pts) was in the last meaningless game where they did not care and benched everyone at half time. Next time, bring some facts to the party :rolleyes:
The Bears defense and special teams are responsible for a good share of those points. You cant honestly think the Bears offense is any where near as good as the Colts or Saints, can you? :bag:
 
Should be a very good game but I expect SD to prevail largely due to the big difference in the SD offense compared to Chicago offense. Both defenses are stout and largely a push. I think Chicago will have a tough time running which will put the ball in Grossman's hands. SD is vulnerable in the 2ndary so Grossman may connect on a couple deep balls but the more he goes back to pass the worse the Bears chances IMO. Great week 1 matchup.

 
TitusIII said:
Sweetness_34 said:
fridayfrenzy said:
Sweetness_34 said:
zoonation said:
I like IND v. NO better, personally.
None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.
Bears can play Offense? News to me.
Maybe you should watch more football....look at the stats shown below. Oh, and their worst scoring game (7 pts) was in the last meaningless game where they did not care and benched everyone at half time. Next time, bring some facts to the party :rolleyes: Bears points scored first for all games below:

26-0

34-7

19-16

37-6

40-7

24-23

41-10

13-31

38-20

10-0

13-17

23-13

42-27

34-31

26-21

7-26

NFL Ranks for Offense Scoring for 2006 Regular season (Chargers & Bears were 1 & 2):

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Pts Pts/G Rsh Rec PRet KRet INT FUM Blk FG Blk Pnt XPM FGM SFTY 2-PT

1 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 492 30.8 32 24 0 0 0 3 0 0 58 26 0 1

2 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 14 24 3 2 1 2 0 0 47 32 1 0

2 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 17 31 1 0 0 1 0 0 47 26 0 1

4 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 425 26.6 21 26 1 0 3 1 0 0 49 20 0 2

5 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 413 25.8 19 27 1 0 0 1 0 1 46 23 0 2

6 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 398 24.9 13 31 0 0 4 1 0 0 48 18 0 1

7 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 385 24.1 20 25 0 1 0 0 0 0 43 20 1 2

8 Cincinnati Bengals 16 23.3 373 373 23.3 14 28 0 0 1 0 0 0 40 25 0 0

9 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 23.2 371 371 23.2 23 17 0 1 1 0 0 0 41 26 0 0

10 St. Louis Rams 16 22.9 367 367 22.9 13 24 0 0 1 1 0 0 35 32 0 1

11 New York Giants 16 22.2 355 355 22.2 14 24 0 0 2 1 0 0 38 23 1 0

12 Baltimore Ravens 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 11 21 0 0 5 1 0 0 37 28 2 0

12 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 16 23 1 0 2 0 0 0 41 20 0 0

14 Seattle Seahawks 16 20.9 335 335 20.9 8 26 1 0 1 1 0 0 36 25 0 1

15 Kansas City Chiefs 16 20.7 331 331 20.7 17 18 1 0 0 0 0 1 35 24 0 1

16 Tennessee Titans 16 20.2 324 324 20.2 15 13 3 0 2 3 0 0 32 22 2 3

17 Denver Broncos 16 19.9 319 319 19.9 12 20 0 0 2 0 0 0 34 27 0 0

18 New York Jets 16 19.8 316 316 19.8 15 17 0 2 0 1 0 0 34 24 0 0

19 Arizona Cardinals 16 19.6 314 314 19.6 12 17 0 1 1 2 0 0 32 28 0 0

20 Washington Redskins 16 19.2 307 307 19.2 13 19 1 1 0 0 0 0 31 22 1 2

21 Detroit Lions 16 19.1 305 305 19.1 9 21 0 0 1 0 0 0 30 29 1 0

22 Green Bay Packers 16 18.8 301 301 18.8 9 18 0 0 4 1 0 0 31 26 0 0

23 Buffalo Bills 16 18.8 300 300 18.8 9 19 1 0 2 2 0 0 33 23 0 0

24 San Francisco 49ers 16 18.6 298 298 18.6 12 16 0 0 1 1 0 0 29 29 1 0

25 Atlanta Falcons 16 18.2 292 292 18.2 9 21 0 0 1 1 0 0 31 23 0 0

26 Minnesota Vikings 16 17.6 282 282 17.6 12 13 1 0 3 3 0 0 27 21 0 0

27 Carolina Panthers 16 16.9 270 270 16.9 7 19 0 0 2 0 0 0 28 24 1 0

28 Houston Texans 16 16.7 267 267 16.7 13 14 0 0 1 2 0 0 26 19 0 2

29 Miami Dolphins 16 16.2 260 260 16.2 7 16 0 0 2 1 0 0 22 26 0 2

30 Cleveland Browns 16 14.9 238 238 14.9 7 15 0 1 1 1 0 0 25 21 0 0

31 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 13.2 211 211 13.2 6 14 0 0 3 0 0 0 22 17 0 0

32 Oakland Raiders 16 10.5 168 168 10.5 5 7 0 0 2 2 0 0 16 18 1 0

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?arc...amp;Submit=Find
:goodposting:
Actually their offense only scored 3 points against Arizona and 7 points in the second game versus Minnesota. You can't lump in Hester's kick returns and the Bears defensive returns for scores and say the offense is good. If you take out all the Bears kick returns and defensive scores, they only averaged about 22 points per game. Whipping on great defenses of San Fran ranked 32nd in points allowed, Detroit ranked 30th in points allowed, St. Louis ranked 28th in points allowed, New York Giants ranked 24th in points allowed and TB ranked 21st in points allowed. In fact the only team they scored more than 20 points against ranked in the top half of the league in points allowed was Buffalo. Every other team the offense couldn't must 20 measly points. And I don't even want to look at how many of those offensive points were scored because of the defense or return game put them in field goal range to start the drive. I bet it would be more than a few.4 field goals and a TD against GB the first game and Minnesota the first game.

3 points against Arizona.

13 points against Miami.

10 points against the NYJ.

13 points against NE.

7 points against Minnesota the second time.

And I won't count the last GB game because they didn't try to win that one.

 
PatytonsGhost said:
Every time I see LT posing in the end zone i throw something not very valuable at the T.V and yell like a beligerent drunk, I can just imagine what the actual Bears players think of it.... :lmao: I can't wait to see the Bear D under Bob Babich, I for one grew tired of the inexperienced Rivera Benson's first game as a starter with a huge tough match up, How he will respond?Has Grossman corrected his problems.How will Hester be involved in the gameplanand many more... I CANT WAIT
:yes: Very pumped for this season. 1st time in a while. :yes:
 
gferrell20 said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Sweetness_34 said:
Spiderman said:
How this game didn't get picked for the 2nd game of the ESPN double-header is beyond me.
I think CBS protected it since it is :popcorn:
games on Foxand this game will come down to how many mistakes Rex makes.
:goodposting: I'm afraid us Bear fans are in for another long season.
If by "another long season" you mean one that ends with a Super Bowl appearance, I'm all for it. :no: Amazingly, Angelo took one of the best teams in the NFC and made it better:

The addition of Archuleta and Darwin Walker on defense only solidifies one of the best defenses in the league. Having Mike Brown and Tommy Harris healthy is also a big plus on that side of the ball.

Adding Olsen and Hester on the offensive side will help a great deal as well. IF (and I realize I should make that bigger) Benson can stay healthy, there are things he can do in the running game that T. Jones simply couldn't. Don't get me wrong - I liked TJ, but Benson is a pounder. If Rex can reduce his mistakes (I'm realistsic - he aint gonna get rid of him completely) - the Bears will be well on their way to the big dance...again.

 
TitusIII said:
Sweetness_34 said:
fridayfrenzy said:
Sweetness_34 said:
zoonation said:
I like IND v. NO better, personally.
None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.
Bears can play Offense? News to me.
Maybe you should watch more football....look at the stats shown below. Oh, and their worst scoring game (7 pts) was in the last meaningless game where they did not care and benched everyone at half time. Next time, bring some facts to the party :bag: Bears points scored first for all games below:

26-0

34-7

19-16

37-6

40-7

24-23

41-10

13-31

38-20

10-0

13-17

23-13

42-27

34-31

26-21

7-26

NFL Ranks for Offense Scoring for 2006 Regular season (Chargers & Bears were 1 & 2):

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Pts Pts/G Rsh Rec PRet KRet INT FUM Blk FG Blk Pnt XPM FGM SFTY 2-PT

1 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 492 30.8 32 24 0 0 0 3 0 0 58 26 0 1

2 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 14 24 3 2 1 2 0 0 47 32 1 0

2 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 17 31 1 0 0 1 0 0 47 26 0 1

4 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 425 26.6 21 26 1 0 3 1 0 0 49 20 0 2

5 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 413 25.8 19 27 1 0 0 1 0 1 46 23 0 2

6 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 398 24.9 13 31 0 0 4 1 0 0 48 18 0 1

7 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 385 24.1 20 25 0 1 0 0 0 0 43 20 1 2

8 Cincinnati Bengals 16 23.3 373 373 23.3 14 28 0 0 1 0 0 0 40 25 0 0

9 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 23.2 371 371 23.2 23 17 0 1 1 0 0 0 41 26 0 0

10 St. Louis Rams 16 22.9 367 367 22.9 13 24 0 0 1 1 0 0 35 32 0 1

11 New York Giants 16 22.2 355 355 22.2 14 24 0 0 2 1 0 0 38 23 1 0

12 Baltimore Ravens 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 11 21 0 0 5 1 0 0 37 28 2 0

12 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 16 23 1 0 2 0 0 0 41 20 0 0

14 Seattle Seahawks 16 20.9 335 335 20.9 8 26 1 0 1 1 0 0 36 25 0 1

15 Kansas City Chiefs 16 20.7 331 331 20.7 17 18 1 0 0 0 0 1 35 24 0 1

16 Tennessee Titans 16 20.2 324 324 20.2 15 13 3 0 2 3 0 0 32 22 2 3

17 Denver Broncos 16 19.9 319 319 19.9 12 20 0 0 2 0 0 0 34 27 0 0

18 New York Jets 16 19.8 316 316 19.8 15 17 0 2 0 1 0 0 34 24 0 0

19 Arizona Cardinals 16 19.6 314 314 19.6 12 17 0 1 1 2 0 0 32 28 0 0

20 Washington Redskins 16 19.2 307 307 19.2 13 19 1 1 0 0 0 0 31 22 1 2

21 Detroit Lions 16 19.1 305 305 19.1 9 21 0 0 1 0 0 0 30 29 1 0

22 Green Bay Packers 16 18.8 301 301 18.8 9 18 0 0 4 1 0 0 31 26 0 0

23 Buffalo Bills 16 18.8 300 300 18.8 9 19 1 0 2 2 0 0 33 23 0 0

24 San Francisco 49ers 16 18.6 298 298 18.6 12 16 0 0 1 1 0 0 29 29 1 0

25 Atlanta Falcons 16 18.2 292 292 18.2 9 21 0 0 1 1 0 0 31 23 0 0

26 Minnesota Vikings 16 17.6 282 282 17.6 12 13 1 0 3 3 0 0 27 21 0 0

27 Carolina Panthers 16 16.9 270 270 16.9 7 19 0 0 2 0 0 0 28 24 1 0

28 Houston Texans 16 16.7 267 267 16.7 13 14 0 0 1 2 0 0 26 19 0 2

29 Miami Dolphins 16 16.2 260 260 16.2 7 16 0 0 2 1 0 0 22 26 0 2

30 Cleveland Browns 16 14.9 238 238 14.9 7 15 0 1 1 1 0 0 25 21 0 0

31 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 13.2 211 211 13.2 6 14 0 0 3 0 0 0 22 17 0 0

32 Oakland Raiders 16 10.5 168 168 10.5 5 7 0 0 2 2 0 0 16 18 1 0

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?arc...amp;Submit=Find
:thumbup:
Actually their offense only scored 3 points against Arizona and 7 points in the second game versus Minnesota. You can't lump in Hester's kick returns and the Bears defensive returns for scores and say the offense is good. If you take out all the Bears kick returns and defensive scores, they only averaged about 22 points per game. Whipping on great defenses of San Fran ranked 32nd in points allowed, Detroit ranked 30th in points allowed, St. Louis ranked 28th in points allowed, New York Giants ranked 24th in points allowed and TB ranked 21st in points allowed. In fact the only team they scored more than 20 points against ranked in the top half of the league in points allowed was Buffalo. Every other team the offense couldn't must 20 measly points. And I don't even want to look at how many of those offensive points were scored because of the defense or return game put them in field goal range to start the drive. I bet it would be more than a few.4 field goals and a TD against GB the first game and Minnesota the first game.

3 points against Arizona.

13 points against Miami.

10 points against the NYJ.

13 points against NE.

7 points against Minnesota the second time.

And I won't count the last GB game because they didn't try to win that one.
:nerd: :own3d:

The Chargers will win this game. The Bears feasted on a cake schedule last year, and while I think they have the best D in the league, their offence is bottom tier. They will be better when Griese takes over.

 
gferrell20 said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Sweetness_34 said:
Spiderman said:
How this game didn't get picked for the 2nd game of the ESPN double-header is beyond me.
I think CBS protected it since it is :thumbup:
games on Foxand this game will come down to how many mistakes Rex makes.
:bag: I'm afraid us Bear fans are in for another long season.
If by "another long season" you mean one that ends with a Super Bowl appearance, I'm all for it. :nerd: Amazingly, Angelo took one of the best teams in the NFC and made it better:

The addition of Archuleta and Darwin Walker on defense only solidifies one of the best defenses in the league. Having Mike Brown and Tommy Harris healthy is also a big plus on that side of the ball.

Adding Olsen and Hester on the offensive side will help a great deal as well. IF (and I realize I should make that bigger) Benson can stay healthy, there are things he can do in the running game that T. Jones simply couldn't. Don't get me wrong - I liked TJ, but Benson is a pounder. If Rex can reduce his mistakes (I'm realistsic - he aint gonna get rid of him completely) - the Bears will be well on their way to the big dance...again.
I agree with you. I meant a couple things by that statement, "another long season". One, being that we'll have to listen to QB controversy week in week out, and pray that Rex doesn't lose us games, and two that I believe we will go deep into the playoffs again. I'm with you thinking that the Bears did get quite a bit better.
 
TitusIII said:
Sweetness_34 said:
fridayfrenzy said:
Sweetness_34 said:
zoonation said:
I like IND v. NO better, personally.
None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.
Bears can play Offense? News to me.
Maybe you should watch more football....look at the stats shown below. Oh, and their worst scoring game (7 pts) was in the last meaningless game where they did not care and benched everyone at half time. Next time, bring some facts to the party :bag: Bears points scored first for all games below:

26-0

34-7

19-16

37-6

40-7

24-23

41-10

13-31

38-20

10-0

13-17

23-13

42-27

34-31

26-21

7-26

NFL Ranks for Offense Scoring for 2006 Regular season (Chargers & Bears were 1 & 2):

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Pts Pts/G Rsh Rec PRet KRet INT FUM Blk FG Blk Pnt XPM FGM SFTY 2-PT

1 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 492 30.8 32 24 0 0 0 3 0 0 58 26 0 1

2 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 14 24 3 2 1 2 0 0 47 32 1 0

2 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 17 31 1 0 0 1 0 0 47 26 0 1

4 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 425 26.6 21 26 1 0 3 1 0 0 49 20 0 2

5 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 413 25.8 19 27 1 0 0 1 0 1 46 23 0 2

6 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 398 24.9 13 31 0 0 4 1 0 0 48 18 0 1

7 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 385 24.1 20 25 0 1 0 0 0 0 43 20 1 2

8 Cincinnati Bengals 16 23.3 373 373 23.3 14 28 0 0 1 0 0 0 40 25 0 0

9 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 23.2 371 371 23.2 23 17 0 1 1 0 0 0 41 26 0 0

10 St. Louis Rams 16 22.9 367 367 22.9 13 24 0 0 1 1 0 0 35 32 0 1

11 New York Giants 16 22.2 355 355 22.2 14 24 0 0 2 1 0 0 38 23 1 0

12 Baltimore Ravens 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 11 21 0 0 5 1 0 0 37 28 2 0

12 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 16 23 1 0 2 0 0 0 41 20 0 0

14 Seattle Seahawks 16 20.9 335 335 20.9 8 26 1 0 1 1 0 0 36 25 0 1

15 Kansas City Chiefs 16 20.7 331 331 20.7 17 18 1 0 0 0 0 1 35 24 0 1

16 Tennessee Titans 16 20.2 324 324 20.2 15 13 3 0 2 3 0 0 32 22 2 3

17 Denver Broncos 16 19.9 319 319 19.9 12 20 0 0 2 0 0 0 34 27 0 0

18 New York Jets 16 19.8 316 316 19.8 15 17 0 2 0 1 0 0 34 24 0 0

19 Arizona Cardinals 16 19.6 314 314 19.6 12 17 0 1 1 2 0 0 32 28 0 0

20 Washington Redskins 16 19.2 307 307 19.2 13 19 1 1 0 0 0 0 31 22 1 2

21 Detroit Lions 16 19.1 305 305 19.1 9 21 0 0 1 0 0 0 30 29 1 0

22 Green Bay Packers 16 18.8 301 301 18.8 9 18 0 0 4 1 0 0 31 26 0 0

23 Buffalo Bills 16 18.8 300 300 18.8 9 19 1 0 2 2 0 0 33 23 0 0

24 San Francisco 49ers 16 18.6 298 298 18.6 12 16 0 0 1 1 0 0 29 29 1 0

25 Atlanta Falcons 16 18.2 292 292 18.2 9 21 0 0 1 1 0 0 31 23 0 0

26 Minnesota Vikings 16 17.6 282 282 17.6 12 13 1 0 3 3 0 0 27 21 0 0

27 Carolina Panthers 16 16.9 270 270 16.9 7 19 0 0 2 0 0 0 28 24 1 0

28 Houston Texans 16 16.7 267 267 16.7 13 14 0 0 1 2 0 0 26 19 0 2

29 Miami Dolphins 16 16.2 260 260 16.2 7 16 0 0 2 1 0 0 22 26 0 2

30 Cleveland Browns 16 14.9 238 238 14.9 7 15 0 1 1 1 0 0 25 21 0 0

31 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 13.2 211 211 13.2 6 14 0 0 3 0 0 0 22 17 0 0

32 Oakland Raiders 16 10.5 168 168 10.5 5 7 0 0 2 2 0 0 16 18 1 0

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?arc...amp;Submit=Find
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Actually their offense only scored 3 points against Arizona and 7 points in the second game versus Minnesota. You can't lump in Hester's kick returns and the Bears defensive returns for scores and say the offense is good. If you take out all the Bears kick returns and defensive scores, they only averaged about 22 points per game. Whipping on great defenses of San Fran ranked 32nd in points allowed, Detroit ranked 30th in points allowed, St. Louis ranked 28th in points allowed, New York Giants ranked 24th in points allowed and TB ranked 21st in points allowed. In fact the only team they scored more than 20 points against ranked in the top half of the league in points allowed was Buffalo. Every other team the offense couldn't must 20 measly points. And I don't even want to look at how many of those offensive points were scored because of the defense or return game put them in field goal range to start the drive. I bet it would be more than a few.4 field goals and a TD against GB the first game and Minnesota the first game.

3 points against Arizona.

13 points against Miami.

10 points against the NYJ.

13 points against NE.

7 points against Minnesota the second time.

And I won't count the last GB game because they didn't try to win that one.
:nerd: :own3d:

The Chargers will win this game. The Bears feasted on a cake schedule last year, and while I think they have the best D in the league, their offence is bottom tier. They will be better when Griese takes over.
Their defense helps the offense, no question, but the Bears offense is only bottom tier at one position. I guess we will see how much that matters this weekend.
 
Burning Sensation said:
Sweetness_34 said:
fridayfrenzy said:
Sweetness_34 said:
zoonation said:
I like IND v. NO better, personally.
None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.
Bears can play Offense? News to me.
Maybe you should watch more football....look at the stats shown below. Oh, and their worst scoring game (7 pts) was in the last meaningless game where they did not care and benched everyone at half time. Next time, bring some facts to the party :rolleyes:
The Bears defense and special teams are responsible for a good share of those points. You cant honestly think the Bears offense is any where near as good as the Colts or Saints, can you? :confused:
Nobody is saying the Bears O is near as good as the Colts or Saints. But what I am saying is that the Bears O is pretty decent compared to the average O in the league....OTOH the Colts & Saints D are horrible compared to the average D in the league. Bears play on O and D....Saints & Colts do not. Yes, the Colts D woke up for the playoffs last year, but this is the same D that gave up a NFL record rushing performance to the Jags a few weeks back last year. And the Aints D is so horrible, that the "so called bad Bears O" pounded them for 30+
 
TitusIII said:
Sweetness_34 said:
fridayfrenzy said:
Sweetness_34 said:
zoonation said:
I like IND v. NO better, personally.
None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.
Bears can play Offense? News to me.
Maybe you should watch more football....look at the stats shown below. Oh, and their worst scoring game (7 pts) was in the last meaningless game where they did not care and benched everyone at half time. Next time, bring some facts to the party :rolleyes: Bears points scored first for all games below:

26-0

34-7

19-16

37-6

40-7

24-23

41-10

13-31

38-20

10-0

13-17

23-13

42-27

34-31

26-21

7-26

NFL Ranks for Offense Scoring for 2006 Regular season (Chargers & Bears were 1 & 2):

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Pts Pts/G Rsh Rec PRet KRet INT FUM Blk FG Blk Pnt XPM FGM SFTY 2-PT

1 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 492 30.8 32 24 0 0 0 3 0 0 58 26 0 1

2 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 14 24 3 2 1 2 0 0 47 32 1 0

2 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 17 31 1 0 0 1 0 0 47 26 0 1

4 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 425 26.6 21 26 1 0 3 1 0 0 49 20 0 2

5 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 413 25.8 19 27 1 0 0 1 0 1 46 23 0 2

6 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 398 24.9 13 31 0 0 4 1 0 0 48 18 0 1

7 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 385 24.1 20 25 0 1 0 0 0 0 43 20 1 2

8 Cincinnati Bengals 16 23.3 373 373 23.3 14 28 0 0 1 0 0 0 40 25 0 0

9 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 23.2 371 371 23.2 23 17 0 1 1 0 0 0 41 26 0 0

10 St. Louis Rams 16 22.9 367 367 22.9 13 24 0 0 1 1 0 0 35 32 0 1

11 New York Giants 16 22.2 355 355 22.2 14 24 0 0 2 1 0 0 38 23 1 0

12 Baltimore Ravens 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 11 21 0 0 5 1 0 0 37 28 2 0

12 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 16 23 1 0 2 0 0 0 41 20 0 0

14 Seattle Seahawks 16 20.9 335 335 20.9 8 26 1 0 1 1 0 0 36 25 0 1

15 Kansas City Chiefs 16 20.7 331 331 20.7 17 18 1 0 0 0 0 1 35 24 0 1

16 Tennessee Titans 16 20.2 324 324 20.2 15 13 3 0 2 3 0 0 32 22 2 3

17 Denver Broncos 16 19.9 319 319 19.9 12 20 0 0 2 0 0 0 34 27 0 0

18 New York Jets 16 19.8 316 316 19.8 15 17 0 2 0 1 0 0 34 24 0 0

19 Arizona Cardinals 16 19.6 314 314 19.6 12 17 0 1 1 2 0 0 32 28 0 0

20 Washington Redskins 16 19.2 307 307 19.2 13 19 1 1 0 0 0 0 31 22 1 2

21 Detroit Lions 16 19.1 305 305 19.1 9 21 0 0 1 0 0 0 30 29 1 0

22 Green Bay Packers 16 18.8 301 301 18.8 9 18 0 0 4 1 0 0 31 26 0 0

23 Buffalo Bills 16 18.8 300 300 18.8 9 19 1 0 2 2 0 0 33 23 0 0

24 San Francisco 49ers 16 18.6 298 298 18.6 12 16 0 0 1 1 0 0 29 29 1 0

25 Atlanta Falcons 16 18.2 292 292 18.2 9 21 0 0 1 1 0 0 31 23 0 0

26 Minnesota Vikings 16 17.6 282 282 17.6 12 13 1 0 3 3 0 0 27 21 0 0

27 Carolina Panthers 16 16.9 270 270 16.9 7 19 0 0 2 0 0 0 28 24 1 0

28 Houston Texans 16 16.7 267 267 16.7 13 14 0 0 1 2 0 0 26 19 0 2

29 Miami Dolphins 16 16.2 260 260 16.2 7 16 0 0 2 1 0 0 22 26 0 2

30 Cleveland Browns 16 14.9 238 238 14.9 7 15 0 1 1 1 0 0 25 21 0 0

31 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 13.2 211 211 13.2 6 14 0 0 3 0 0 0 22 17 0 0

32 Oakland Raiders 16 10.5 168 168 10.5 5 7 0 0 2 2 0 0 16 18 1 0

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?arc...amp;Submit=Find
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Actually their offense only scored 3 points against Arizona and 7 points in the second game versus Minnesota. You can't lump in Hester's kick returns and the Bears defensive returns for scores and say the offense is good. If you take out all the Bears kick returns and defensive scores, they only averaged about 22 points per game. Whipping on great defenses of San Fran ranked 32nd in points allowed, Detroit ranked 30th in points allowed, St. Louis ranked 28th in points allowed, New York Giants ranked 24th in points allowed and TB ranked 21st in points allowed. In fact the only team they scored more than 20 points against ranked in the top half of the league in points allowed was Buffalo. Every other team the offense couldn't must 20 measly points. And I don't even want to look at how many of those offensive points were scored because of the defense or return game put them in field goal range to start the drive. I bet it would be more than a few.4 field goals and a TD against GB the first game and Minnesota the first game.

3 points against Arizona.

13 points against Miami.

10 points against the NYJ.

13 points against NE.

7 points against Minnesota the second time.

And I won't count the last GB game because they didn't try to win that one.
Miami, NE and Minny are actually very good defenses, in case you did not notice. Most teams could not score points on them :shrug: Against the Jets, the Bears intentionally decided to play very conservative on O and do just enough to win the game.

Arizona was an anamoly because of the turnovers.....the Cards were pumped on their opening night of their new stadium and they brought it all to the Bears. Everyone has a bad night.....the Bears O had it that day/night. Are you going to point to Peyton Manning's horrible playoff performances and claim he is bottom tier since he could not perform against the Ravens or Chiefs D?

 
TitusIII said:
Sweetness_34 said:
fridayfrenzy said:
Sweetness_34 said:
zoonation said:
I like IND v. NO better, personally.
None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.
Bears can play Offense? News to me.
Maybe you should watch more football....look at the stats shown below. Oh, and their worst scoring game (7 pts) was in the last meaningless game where they did not care and benched everyone at half time. Next time, bring some facts to the party :rolleyes: Bears points scored first for all games below:

26-0

34-7

19-16

37-6

40-7

24-23

41-10

13-31

38-20

10-0

13-17

23-13

42-27

34-31

26-21

7-26

NFL Ranks for Offense Scoring for 2006 Regular season (Chargers & Bears were 1 & 2):

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Pts Pts/G Rsh Rec PRet KRet INT FUM Blk FG Blk Pnt XPM FGM SFTY 2-PT

1 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 492 30.8 32 24 0 0 0 3 0 0 58 26 0 1

2 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 14 24 3 2 1 2 0 0 47 32 1 0

2 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 17 31 1 0 0 1 0 0 47 26 0 1

4 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 425 26.6 21 26 1 0 3 1 0 0 49 20 0 2

5 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 413 25.8 19 27 1 0 0 1 0 1 46 23 0 2

6 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 398 24.9 13 31 0 0 4 1 0 0 48 18 0 1

7 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 385 24.1 20 25 0 1 0 0 0 0 43 20 1 2

8 Cincinnati Bengals 16 23.3 373 373 23.3 14 28 0 0 1 0 0 0 40 25 0 0

9 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 23.2 371 371 23.2 23 17 0 1 1 0 0 0 41 26 0 0

10 St. Louis Rams 16 22.9 367 367 22.9 13 24 0 0 1 1 0 0 35 32 0 1

11 New York Giants 16 22.2 355 355 22.2 14 24 0 0 2 1 0 0 38 23 1 0

12 Baltimore Ravens 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 11 21 0 0 5 1 0 0 37 28 2 0

12 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 16 23 1 0 2 0 0 0 41 20 0 0

14 Seattle Seahawks 16 20.9 335 335 20.9 8 26 1 0 1 1 0 0 36 25 0 1

15 Kansas City Chiefs 16 20.7 331 331 20.7 17 18 1 0 0 0 0 1 35 24 0 1

16 Tennessee Titans 16 20.2 324 324 20.2 15 13 3 0 2 3 0 0 32 22 2 3

17 Denver Broncos 16 19.9 319 319 19.9 12 20 0 0 2 0 0 0 34 27 0 0

18 New York Jets 16 19.8 316 316 19.8 15 17 0 2 0 1 0 0 34 24 0 0

19 Arizona Cardinals 16 19.6 314 314 19.6 12 17 0 1 1 2 0 0 32 28 0 0

20 Washington Redskins 16 19.2 307 307 19.2 13 19 1 1 0 0 0 0 31 22 1 2

21 Detroit Lions 16 19.1 305 305 19.1 9 21 0 0 1 0 0 0 30 29 1 0

22 Green Bay Packers 16 18.8 301 301 18.8 9 18 0 0 4 1 0 0 31 26 0 0

23 Buffalo Bills 16 18.8 300 300 18.8 9 19 1 0 2 2 0 0 33 23 0 0

24 San Francisco 49ers 16 18.6 298 298 18.6 12 16 0 0 1 1 0 0 29 29 1 0

25 Atlanta Falcons 16 18.2 292 292 18.2 9 21 0 0 1 1 0 0 31 23 0 0

26 Minnesota Vikings 16 17.6 282 282 17.6 12 13 1 0 3 3 0 0 27 21 0 0

27 Carolina Panthers 16 16.9 270 270 16.9 7 19 0 0 2 0 0 0 28 24 1 0

28 Houston Texans 16 16.7 267 267 16.7 13 14 0 0 1 2 0 0 26 19 0 2

29 Miami Dolphins 16 16.2 260 260 16.2 7 16 0 0 2 1 0 0 22 26 0 2

30 Cleveland Browns 16 14.9 238 238 14.9 7 15 0 1 1 1 0 0 25 21 0 0

31 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 13.2 211 211 13.2 6 14 0 0 3 0 0 0 22 17 0 0

32 Oakland Raiders 16 10.5 168 168 10.5 5 7 0 0 2 2 0 0 16 18 1 0

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?arc...amp;Submit=Find
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Actually their offense only scored 3 points against Arizona and 7 points in the second game versus Minnesota. You can't lump in Hester's kick returns and the Bears defensive returns for scores and say the offense is good. If you take out all the Bears kick returns and defensive scores, they only averaged about 22 points per game. Whipping on great defenses of San Fran ranked 32nd in points allowed, Detroit ranked 30th in points allowed, St. Louis ranked 28th in points allowed, New York Giants ranked 24th in points allowed and TB ranked 21st in points allowed. In fact the only team they scored more than 20 points against ranked in the top half of the league in points allowed was Buffalo. Every other team the offense couldn't must 20 measly points. And I don't even want to look at how many of those offensive points were scored because of the defense or return game put them in field goal range to start the drive. I bet it would be more than a few.4 field goals and a TD against GB the first game and Minnesota the first game.

3 points against Arizona.

13 points against Miami.

10 points against the NYJ.

13 points against NE.

7 points against Minnesota the second time.

And I won't count the last GB game because they didn't try to win that one.
:) :own3d:

The Chargers will win this game. The Bears feasted on a cake schedule last year, and while I think they have the best D in the league, their offence is bottom tier. They will be better when Griese takes over.
:lmao: so now it was the schedule. :lmao: The bottom tier Bears offense (read carefully - not offence like you said) scored 38 TDs on O last year (this does not count 5 that were scored on returns; 4 by defense)....that is top 10. Next time bring facts.

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Total Rsh Rec Ret Def

1 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 59 32 24 0 3

2 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 52 21 26 1 4

3 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 50 17 31 1 1

4 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 49 19 27 1 2

4 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 49 13 31 0 5

6 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 47 14 24 5 4

7 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 46 20 25 1 0

8 Cincinnati Bengals 16 23.3 373 43 14 28 0 1

9 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 23.2 371 42 23 17 1 1

9 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 42 16 23 1 2

11 New York Giants 16 22.2 355 41 14 24 0 3

12 St. Louis Rams 16 22.9 367 39 13 24 0 2

13 Baltimore Ravens 16 22.1 353 38 11 21 0 6

14 Kansas City Chiefs 16 20.7 331 37 17 18 1 1

14 Seattle Seahawks 16 20.9 335 37 8 26 1 2

16 Tennessee Titans 16 20.2 324 36 15 13 3 5

17 New York Jets 16 19.8 316 35 15 17 2 1

18 Denver Broncos 16 19.9 319 34 12 20 0 2

18 Washington Redskins 16 19.2 307 34 13 19 2 0

20 Arizona Cardinals 16 19.6 314 33 12 17 1 3

20 Buffalo Bills 16 18.8 300 33 9 19 1 4

22 Atlanta Falcons 16 18.2 292 32 9 21 0 2

22 Green Bay Packers 16 18.8 301 32 9 18 0 5

22 Minnesota Vikings 16 17.6 282 32 12 13 1 6

25 Detroit Lions 16 19.1 305 31 9 21 0 1

26 Houston Texans 16 16.7 267 30 13 14 0 3

26 San Francisco 49ers 16 18.6 298 30 12 16 0 2

28 Carolina Panthers 16 16.9 270 28 7 19 0 2

29 Miami Dolphins 16 16.2 260 26 7 16 0 3

30 Cleveland Browns 16 14.9 238 25 7 15 1 2

31 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 13.2 211 23 6 14 0 3

32 Oakland Raiders 16 10.5 168 16 5 7 0 4

 
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TitusIII said:
Sweetness_34 said:
fridayfrenzy said:
Sweetness_34 said:
zoonation said:
I like IND v. NO better, personally.
None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.
Bears can play Offense? News to me.
Maybe you should watch more football....look at the stats shown below. Oh, and their worst scoring game (7 pts) was in the last meaningless game where they did not care and benched everyone at half time. Next time, bring some facts to the party :rolleyes: Bears points scored first for all games below:

26-0

34-7

19-16

37-6

40-7

24-23

41-10

13-31

38-20

10-0

13-17

23-13

42-27

34-31

26-21

7-26

NFL Ranks for Offense Scoring for 2006 Regular season (Chargers & Bears were 1 & 2):

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Pts Pts/G Rsh Rec PRet KRet INT FUM Blk FG Blk Pnt XPM FGM SFTY 2-PT

1 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 492 30.8 32 24 0 0 0 3 0 0 58 26 0 1

2 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 14 24 3 2 1 2 0 0 47 32 1 0

2 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 17 31 1 0 0 1 0 0 47 26 0 1

4 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 425 26.6 21 26 1 0 3 1 0 0 49 20 0 2

5 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 413 25.8 19 27 1 0 0 1 0 1 46 23 0 2

6 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 398 24.9 13 31 0 0 4 1 0 0 48 18 0 1

7 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 385 24.1 20 25 0 1 0 0 0 0 43 20 1 2

8 Cincinnati Bengals 16 23.3 373 373 23.3 14 28 0 0 1 0 0 0 40 25 0 0

9 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 23.2 371 371 23.2 23 17 0 1 1 0 0 0 41 26 0 0

10 St. Louis Rams 16 22.9 367 367 22.9 13 24 0 0 1 1 0 0 35 32 0 1

11 New York Giants 16 22.2 355 355 22.2 14 24 0 0 2 1 0 0 38 23 1 0

12 Baltimore Ravens 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 11 21 0 0 5 1 0 0 37 28 2 0

12 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 16 23 1 0 2 0 0 0 41 20 0 0

14 Seattle Seahawks 16 20.9 335 335 20.9 8 26 1 0 1 1 0 0 36 25 0 1

15 Kansas City Chiefs 16 20.7 331 331 20.7 17 18 1 0 0 0 0 1 35 24 0 1

16 Tennessee Titans 16 20.2 324 324 20.2 15 13 3 0 2 3 0 0 32 22 2 3

17 Denver Broncos 16 19.9 319 319 19.9 12 20 0 0 2 0 0 0 34 27 0 0

18 New York Jets 16 19.8 316 316 19.8 15 17 0 2 0 1 0 0 34 24 0 0

19 Arizona Cardinals 16 19.6 314 314 19.6 12 17 0 1 1 2 0 0 32 28 0 0

20 Washington Redskins 16 19.2 307 307 19.2 13 19 1 1 0 0 0 0 31 22 1 2

21 Detroit Lions 16 19.1 305 305 19.1 9 21 0 0 1 0 0 0 30 29 1 0

22 Green Bay Packers 16 18.8 301 301 18.8 9 18 0 0 4 1 0 0 31 26 0 0

23 Buffalo Bills 16 18.8 300 300 18.8 9 19 1 0 2 2 0 0 33 23 0 0

24 San Francisco 49ers 16 18.6 298 298 18.6 12 16 0 0 1 1 0 0 29 29 1 0

25 Atlanta Falcons 16 18.2 292 292 18.2 9 21 0 0 1 1 0 0 31 23 0 0

26 Minnesota Vikings 16 17.6 282 282 17.6 12 13 1 0 3 3 0 0 27 21 0 0

27 Carolina Panthers 16 16.9 270 270 16.9 7 19 0 0 2 0 0 0 28 24 1 0

28 Houston Texans 16 16.7 267 267 16.7 13 14 0 0 1 2 0 0 26 19 0 2

29 Miami Dolphins 16 16.2 260 260 16.2 7 16 0 0 2 1 0 0 22 26 0 2

30 Cleveland Browns 16 14.9 238 238 14.9 7 15 0 1 1 1 0 0 25 21 0 0

31 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 13.2 211 211 13.2 6 14 0 0 3 0 0 0 22 17 0 0

32 Oakland Raiders 16 10.5 168 168 10.5 5 7 0 0 2 2 0 0 16 18 1 0

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?arc...amp;Submit=Find
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Actually their offense only scored 3 points against Arizona and 7 points in the second game versus Minnesota. You can't lump in Hester's kick returns and the Bears defensive returns for scores and say the offense is good. If you take out all the Bears kick returns and defensive scores, they only averaged about 22 points per game. Whipping on great defenses of San Fran ranked 32nd in points allowed, Detroit ranked 30th in points allowed, St. Louis ranked 28th in points allowed, New York Giants ranked 24th in points allowed and TB ranked 21st in points allowed. In fact the only team they scored more than 20 points against ranked in the top half of the league in points allowed was Buffalo. Every other team the offense couldn't must 20 measly points. And I don't even want to look at how many of those offensive points were scored because of the defense or return game put them in field goal range to start the drive. I bet it would be more than a few.4 field goals and a TD against GB the first game and Minnesota the first game.

3 points against Arizona.

13 points against Miami.

10 points against the NYJ.

13 points against NE.

7 points against Minnesota the second time.

And I won't count the last GB game because they didn't try to win that one.
:goodposting: :own3d:

The Chargers will win this game. The Bears feasted on a cake schedule last year, and while I think they have the best D in the league, their offence is bottom tier. They will be better when Griese takes over.
Rex's turnover problems are definitely a huge concern. But he's far and away a more talented player than Griese. When you watch them make throws, it's not even close. Rex just makes too many bad decisions at times, but those clamoring for Griese to take over forget how inconsistent he can be as well. Those potential turnover problems won't go away with Griese behind center. Rex has so much more upside, and ability to stretch defenses. He's got a much higher ceiling with his talent, while Griese has already hit his ceiling. Rex just needs to take the snap cleanly, and make better decisions when pressured. If he can limit the turnovers, he will help win a lot more games than Griese could.
 
gferrell20 said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Sweetness_34 said:
Spiderman said:
How this game didn't get picked for the 2nd game of the ESPN double-header is beyond me.
I think CBS protected it since it is :lmao:
games on Foxand this game will come down to how many mistakes Rex makes.
:yes: I'm afraid us Bear fans are in for another long season.
If by "another long season" you mean one that ends with a Super Bowl appearance, I'm all for it. :hot: Amazingly, Angelo took one of the best teams in the NFC and made it better:

The addition of Archuleta and Darwin Walker on defense only solidifies one of the best defenses in the league. Having Mike Brown and Tommy Harris healthy is also a big plus on that side of the ball.

Adding Olsen and Hester on the offensive side will help a great deal as well. IF (and I realize I should make that bigger) Benson can stay healthy, there are things he can do in the running game that T. Jones simply couldn't. Don't get me wrong - I liked TJ, but Benson is a pounder. If Rex can reduce his mistakes (I'm realistsic - he aint gonna get rid of him completely) - the Bears will be well on their way to the big dance...again.
I agree with you. I meant a couple things by that statement, "another long season". One, being that we'll have to listen to QB controversy week in week out, and pray that Rex doesn't lose us games, and two that I believe we will go deep into the playoffs again. I'm with you thinking that the Bears did get quite a bit better.
I think you sum up the feeling of many Bears fans out there - every Sunday/Monday will be a question of "which Rex is it today", which I think is the only weakness this team has. The defense should be as strong or stronger, and I also think the offense has more weapons. We'll find out a lot more about things on Sunday.
 
I think it will boil down to what mechanics, improvement Rex made over the offseason. I heard him on Sirius 2 weeks ago, and he clearly understood what gets him into trouble....throws made under pressure, while on the move, or when forcing it deep. Obviously, SD can bring the heat a la Merriman (but more importantly from Phillips side). If Grossman has learned nothing and is just talk....he is in line for 2 picks, 2 forced fumbles.

If he improved his mechanics and thinking (which he says he did), it might not bode as well for the SD secondary if he exploits the mid range (10-15 yard) pass D, and throws ball away when he is in trouble.

I'm a little nervous..... :lmao:

 
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Rex under pressure = turnover machine. At least last year. If he has corrected this then it should be a great game, if he hasn't then they are going to struggle. It doesn't matter how good the D is. They won't survive 4+ turnovers.

 
TitusIII said:
Sweetness_34 said:
fridayfrenzy said:
Sweetness_34 said:
zoonation said:
I like IND v. NO better, personally.
None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.
Bears can play Offense? News to me.
Maybe you should watch more football....look at the stats shown below. Oh, and their worst scoring game (7 pts) was in the last meaningless game where they did not care and benched everyone at half time. Next time, bring some facts to the party :lmao: Bears points scored first for all games below:

26-0

34-7

19-16

37-6

40-7

24-23

41-10

13-31

38-20

10-0

13-17

23-13

42-27

34-31

26-21

7-26

NFL Ranks for Offense Scoring for 2006 Regular season (Chargers & Bears were 1 & 2):

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Pts Pts/G Rsh Rec PRet KRet INT FUM Blk FG Blk Pnt XPM FGM SFTY 2-PT

1 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 492 30.8 32 24 0 0 0 3 0 0 58 26 0 1

2 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 14 24 3 2 1 2 0 0 47 32 1 0

2 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 17 31 1 0 0 1 0 0 47 26 0 1

4 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 425 26.6 21 26 1 0 3 1 0 0 49 20 0 2

5 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 413 25.8 19 27 1 0 0 1 0 1 46 23 0 2

6 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 398 24.9 13 31 0 0 4 1 0 0 48 18 0 1

7 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 385 24.1 20 25 0 1 0 0 0 0 43 20 1 2

8 Cincinnati Bengals 16 23.3 373 373 23.3 14 28 0 0 1 0 0 0 40 25 0 0

9 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 23.2 371 371 23.2 23 17 0 1 1 0 0 0 41 26 0 0

10 St. Louis Rams 16 22.9 367 367 22.9 13 24 0 0 1 1 0 0 35 32 0 1

11 New York Giants 16 22.2 355 355 22.2 14 24 0 0 2 1 0 0 38 23 1 0

12 Baltimore Ravens 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 11 21 0 0 5 1 0 0 37 28 2 0

12 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 16 23 1 0 2 0 0 0 41 20 0 0

14 Seattle Seahawks 16 20.9 335 335 20.9 8 26 1 0 1 1 0 0 36 25 0 1

15 Kansas City Chiefs 16 20.7 331 331 20.7 17 18 1 0 0 0 0 1 35 24 0 1

16 Tennessee Titans 16 20.2 324 324 20.2 15 13 3 0 2 3 0 0 32 22 2 3

17 Denver Broncos 16 19.9 319 319 19.9 12 20 0 0 2 0 0 0 34 27 0 0

18 New York Jets 16 19.8 316 316 19.8 15 17 0 2 0 1 0 0 34 24 0 0

19 Arizona Cardinals 16 19.6 314 314 19.6 12 17 0 1 1 2 0 0 32 28 0 0

20 Washington Redskins 16 19.2 307 307 19.2 13 19 1 1 0 0 0 0 31 22 1 2

21 Detroit Lions 16 19.1 305 305 19.1 9 21 0 0 1 0 0 0 30 29 1 0

22 Green Bay Packers 16 18.8 301 301 18.8 9 18 0 0 4 1 0 0 31 26 0 0

23 Buffalo Bills 16 18.8 300 300 18.8 9 19 1 0 2 2 0 0 33 23 0 0

24 San Francisco 49ers 16 18.6 298 298 18.6 12 16 0 0 1 1 0 0 29 29 1 0

25 Atlanta Falcons 16 18.2 292 292 18.2 9 21 0 0 1 1 0 0 31 23 0 0

26 Minnesota Vikings 16 17.6 282 282 17.6 12 13 1 0 3 3 0 0 27 21 0 0

27 Carolina Panthers 16 16.9 270 270 16.9 7 19 0 0 2 0 0 0 28 24 1 0

28 Houston Texans 16 16.7 267 267 16.7 13 14 0 0 1 2 0 0 26 19 0 2

29 Miami Dolphins 16 16.2 260 260 16.2 7 16 0 0 2 1 0 0 22 26 0 2

30 Cleveland Browns 16 14.9 238 238 14.9 7 15 0 1 1 1 0 0 25 21 0 0

31 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 13.2 211 211 13.2 6 14 0 0 3 0 0 0 22 17 0 0

32 Oakland Raiders 16 10.5 168 168 10.5 5 7 0 0 2 2 0 0 16 18 1 0

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Actually their offense only scored 3 points against Arizona and 7 points in the second game versus Minnesota. You can't lump in Hester's kick returns and the Bears defensive returns for scores and say the offense is good. If you take out all the Bears kick returns and defensive scores, they only averaged about 22 points per game. Whipping on great defenses of San Fran ranked 32nd in points allowed, Detroit ranked 30th in points allowed, St. Louis ranked 28th in points allowed, New York Giants ranked 24th in points allowed and TB ranked 21st in points allowed. In fact the only team they scored more than 20 points against ranked in the top half of the league in points allowed was Buffalo. Every other team the offense couldn't must 20 measly points. And I don't even want to look at how many of those offensive points were scored because of the defense or return game put them in field goal range to start the drive. I bet it would be more than a few.4 field goals and a TD against GB the first game and Minnesota the first game.

3 points against Arizona.

13 points against Miami.

10 points against the NYJ.

13 points against NE.

7 points against Minnesota the second time.

And I won't count the last GB game because they didn't try to win that one.
Miami, NE and Minny are actually very good defenses, in case you did not notice. Most teams could not score points on them :lmao: Against the Jets, the Bears intentionally decided to play very conservative on O and do just enough to win the game.

Arizona was an anamoly because of the turnovers.....the Cards were pumped on their opening night of their new stadium and they brought it all to the Bears. Everyone has a bad night.....the Bears O had it that day/night. Are you going to point to Peyton Manning's horrible playoff performances and claim he is bottom tier since he could not perform against the Ravens or Chiefs D?
On the converse, in case you did not notice. Most teams COULD score against the teams the Bears scored on. :rolleyes: Should we annoint the Bears offense as good because they were able to score TDs against the some of the worst Ds in the NFL?

 
PatytonsGhost said:
Every time I see LT posing in the end zone i throw something not very valuable at the T.V and yell like a beligerent drunk, I can just imagine what the actual Bears players think of it.... :thumbup:
Maybe they think their teammates shouldn't have participated in a commercial that made them look bad.
 
Sweetness_34 said:
fridayfrenzy said:
Sweetness_34 said:
zoonation said:
I like IND v. NO better, personally.
None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.
Bears can play Offense? News to me.
Maybe you should watch more football....look at the stats shown below. Oh, and their worst scoring game (7 pts) was in the last meaningless game where they did not care and benched everyone at half time. Next time, bring some facts to the party :shock: Bears points scored first for all games below:

26-0

34-7

19-16

37-6

40-7

24-23

41-10

13-31

38-20

10-0

13-17

23-13

42-27

34-31

26-21

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NFL Ranks for Offense Scoring for 2006 Regular season (Chargers & Bears were 1 & 2):

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Pts Pts/G Rsh Rec PRet KRet INT FUM Blk FG Blk Pnt XPM FGM SFTY 2-PT

1 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 492 30.8 32 24 0 0 0 3 0 0 58 26 0 1

2 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 14 24 3 2 1 2 0 0 47 32 1 0

2 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 17 31 1 0 0 1 0 0 47 26 0 1

4 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 425 26.6 21 26 1 0 3 1 0 0 49 20 0 2

5 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 413 25.8 19 27 1 0 0 1 0 1 46 23 0 2

6 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 398 24.9 13 31 0 0 4 1 0 0 48 18 0 1

7 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 385 24.1 20 25 0 1 0 0 0 0 43 20 1 2

8 Cincinnati Bengals 16 23.3 373 373 23.3 14 28 0 0 1 0 0 0 40 25 0 0

9 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 23.2 371 371 23.2 23 17 0 1 1 0 0 0 41 26 0 0

10 St. Louis Rams 16 22.9 367 367 22.9 13 24 0 0 1 1 0 0 35 32 0 1

11 New York Giants 16 22.2 355 355 22.2 14 24 0 0 2 1 0 0 38 23 1 0

12 Baltimore Ravens 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 11 21 0 0 5 1 0 0 37 28 2 0

12 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 16 23 1 0 2 0 0 0 41 20 0 0

14 Seattle Seahawks 16 20.9 335 335 20.9 8 26 1 0 1 1 0 0 36 25 0 1

15 Kansas City Chiefs 16 20.7 331 331 20.7 17 18 1 0 0 0 0 1 35 24 0 1

16 Tennessee Titans 16 20.2 324 324 20.2 15 13 3 0 2 3 0 0 32 22 2 3

17 Denver Broncos 16 19.9 319 319 19.9 12 20 0 0 2 0 0 0 34 27 0 0

18 New York Jets 16 19.8 316 316 19.8 15 17 0 2 0 1 0 0 34 24 0 0

19 Arizona Cardinals 16 19.6 314 314 19.6 12 17 0 1 1 2 0 0 32 28 0 0

20 Washington Redskins 16 19.2 307 307 19.2 13 19 1 1 0 0 0 0 31 22 1 2

21 Detroit Lions 16 19.1 305 305 19.1 9 21 0 0 1 0 0 0 30 29 1 0

22 Green Bay Packers 16 18.8 301 301 18.8 9 18 0 0 4 1 0 0 31 26 0 0

23 Buffalo Bills 16 18.8 300 300 18.8 9 19 1 0 2 2 0 0 33 23 0 0

24 San Francisco 49ers 16 18.6 298 298 18.6 12 16 0 0 1 1 0 0 29 29 1 0

25 Atlanta Falcons 16 18.2 292 292 18.2 9 21 0 0 1 1 0 0 31 23 0 0

26 Minnesota Vikings 16 17.6 282 282 17.6 12 13 1 0 3 3 0 0 27 21 0 0

27 Carolina Panthers 16 16.9 270 270 16.9 7 19 0 0 2 0 0 0 28 24 1 0

28 Houston Texans 16 16.7 267 267 16.7 13 14 0 0 1 2 0 0 26 19 0 2

29 Miami Dolphins 16 16.2 260 260 16.2 7 16 0 0 2 1 0 0 22 26 0 2

30 Cleveland Browns 16 14.9 238 238 14.9 7 15 0 1 1 1 0 0 25 21 0 0

31 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 13.2 211 211 13.2 6 14 0 0 3 0 0 0 22 17 0 0

32 Oakland Raiders 16 10.5 168 168 10.5 5 7 0 0 2 2 0 0 16 18 1 0

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glad you brought the pwnage so I didn't have to. Let people keep talking trash while watching their teams finish below .500
 
Chargers Notes

Norv Turner inherits a team that has won two of the last three AFC West titles and 35 games in the last three years (third-most in the NFL). The Chargers return 19 starters in 2007, including all 11 on offense.

The offense is centered around the NFL’s Most Valuable Player in 2006, running back LaDainian Tomlinson. A four-time Pro Bowl selection, Tomlinson turned the NFL on its ear in 2006, scoring a League record 31 touchdowns and capturing his first-ever rushing title with 1,815 yards. Tomlinson and quarterback Philip Rivers will line up behind an offensive line that returns all five starters, including Pro Bowlers Nick Hardwick and Marcus McNeill, plus three-time Pro Bowl tight end Antonio Gates, the Bolts leading receiver in ’06 with 71 catches, 924 yards and nine scores. Under Turner, the Chargers will run the same offense that he originally implemented as the team’s offensive coordinator in 2001.

On defense, veteran defensive coordinator Ted Cottrell will operate virtually the same 3-4 defense that the Chargers have run since 2004. Last season, San Diego ranked 10th in the league in total defense and seventh against the run. Cottrell’s defense will be anchored by a pair of two-time Pro Bowlers, nose tackle Jamal Williams and outside linebacker Shawne Merriman. Last season, Williams racked up a career-high 84 tackles and Merriman a career-high 17 sacks to claim the NFL’s sack title. Fellow OLB Shaun Phillips set a career high with 11.5 sacks as San Diego’s defense recorded a league-leading 61 sacks as a team.

Also returning are all three of the team’s special teams performers: kicker Nate Kaeding, punter Mike Scifres and long snapper David Binn. A Pro Bowler in 2006, Kaeding hit 26-of-29 field goals and comes into 2007 with a streak of 129 conscutive made PATs. A Pro-Bowl first alternate a year ago, Scifres led the league by landing 35 punts inside the 20 and his two touchbacks were a league low. One of the most accurate snappers in league history, Binn earned his first-ever Pro Bowl nod in ’06, following a season that saw him break the team’s all-time service record.

MATCHUP WITH BEARS HAS SPECIAL MEANING FOR LT

When the Chicago Bears invade Qualcomm Stadium on Sunday afternoon, the game will have special meaning for every player on the field, but especially for LaDainian Tomlinson, who grew up idolizing former Chicago Bear and Hall of Fame rusher, Walter Payton. LT named one of his dogs, “Sweetness,” after Payton and he keeps a framed jersey and helmet of Payton’s among his vast collection of sports memorabilia. LT recently shared some of his thoughts on facing the defending NFC Champions and the origins of his fondness for Payton.

On facing Chicago on Kickoff Weekend, one of the NFL’s most historic franchises and the NFC’s representative in Super Bowl XLI: “It’s very special. It’s a big game starting off the bat to play a team like Chicago. It’s meaningful for us as far as confidence going into the game. This is the team that went to the Super Bowl last year and was the NFC champs so it’s going to be real special to play them in our first game.”

On facing Brian Urlacher and the NFL’s sixth-ranked run defense from a year ago: “It’s definitely going to be a challenge. Chicago has one of the best defenses in the National Football League and they’re very tough, so yes, it’s going to be a challenge. That’s why we play the game and that’s what athletes are made of…challenges. This is another challenge and we’ll see how we do.”

On whether he expects a physical battle in the trenches on Sunday afternoon: “It will be a physical battle. That’s all a part of it, especially when two teams have the same mentality of being physical, so it’s all going to start in the trenches. It’s going to be a heck of a battle in there.”

On how he came to be such a big fan of Walter Payton: “I was five years old when I first saw him play. For me, the joy of playing football started with him. He was the reason why I wanted to play football in the first place, seeing him play. When I was growing up in Texas, we got a lot of the Bears’ games because they were good at the time and I was just drawn to Walter Payton. I wanted to play football because of him and I wanted to be a running back because of him.”

On paying tribute to Payton by naming his dog, “Sweetness,” and keeping a jersey and helmet of Payton’s in his house: “That’s how much he meant to me, for me to have some of his memorabilia in my house and also to name my dog after him. It’s just kind a tribute to what he’s meant to me in my career and in my life.”

2007 OFFENSE AT A GLANCE

QUARTERBACK: The Chargers’ quarterbacking corps is led by Philip Rivers, who was a Pro Bowl selection in 2006, his first as San Diego’s starter…Rivers finished 2006 with 3,388 yards passing, 22 touchdowns and only nine interceptions…he posted a 61.7 completion percentage (284 of 460) and a 92.0 passer rating…in Weeks 9-10, Rivers led the Chargers to big come-from-behind wins on the road at Cincinnati and Denver…in the Bengals’ game, the Bolts overcame 21-point deficits of 21-0 and 28-7 by rallying for a team-record 42 second-half points to win the game, 49-41…a week later in Denver, the Bolts overcame a 17-point deficit (24-7) and rallied to beat the Broncos for their first win in Denver since the 1999 season…it was the first time in NFL history that a team overcame 17-point deficits in consecutive weeks…serving as Rivers’ backup is eighth year veteran Billy Volek, traded to the Chargers from Tennessee in September ’06…a dependable backup through much of his career, Volek possesses the talent to be a starter, something he last did for the Titans in 2004 when he completed 218 of 357 for 2,486 yards and 18 touchdowns…late in that ’04 season, Volek became the fourth player in NFL history to record back-to-back 400-yard passing games and the second to record 900 or more passing yards in a two-game span after throwing for 426 yards against Kansas City and 492 yards against Oakland...second-year quarterback Charlie Whitehurst gained valuable experience as a rookie in 2006 and will be the third stringer in 2007…in limited action as a rookie, Whitehurst scored a touchdown on a 14-yard carry late in a Week 2 win against Tennessee.

RUNNING BACK: Leading the way in the offensive backfield for the Bolts in 2007 is the NFL’s reigning Most Valuable Player and Offensive Player of the Year, LaDainian Tomlinson…”LT” won the league’s rushing title with 1,815 yards in 2006 and set NFL records by scoring 28 rushing touchdowns and 31 total TDs…he became San Diego’s first-ever NFL MVP and by the time the season had ended, he had set a total of 13 new NFL records…LT racked up 2,323 total yards from scrimmage, the sixth-most in a single season in league history…a four-time Pro Bowl choice in six NFL seasons, Tomlinson has rushed 2,050 times for 9,176 yards and 100 touchdowns during his career…he has also caught 398 passes for 2,900 yards and 11 scores…Tomlinson’s backup in San Diego is the dependable Michael Turner, who finished the ’06 campaign with 502 yards and two touchdowns on 80 carries, a 6.3 yards per carry average…Turner was also San Diego’s primary kickoff returner, adding 954 yards on 36 returns…Darren Sproles returns to the offense after spending the ’06 season on injured-reserve while recovering from a broken ankle…as a rookie in 2005, Sproles was the Chargers featured kickoff return man, amassing 1,528 yards on 63 returns for an average of 24.3 yards a return.

FULLBACK: Much of the success of the Chargers running game can be attributed to the play of the team’s veteran fullback, Lorenzo Neal…he has started each of the past two Pro Bowls and is one of the most decorated fullbacks in league history…Neal joined the Chargers in 2003, following a career in which he has paved the way for 1,000-yard seasons for the likes of Warrick Dunn, Eddie George and Corey Dillon…Neal has received the most attention however in his time with the Chargers, laying key blocks for LaDainian Tomlinson and Michael Turner…his tenacity is evident in his ability to finish blocks, such as the one that he threw against Kansas City linebacker Kendrell Bell in Week 14 that helped spring Tomlinson loose for a career-long 85-yard touchdown run…behind Neal, San Diego’s running backs have gained more than 2,000 yards rushing in each of his four seasons with the Chargers…Neal finds relief from veteran Andrew Pinnock, a fifth-year man from South Carolina who can also line up as a running back.

TIGHT END: In recent years, many teams have increasingly found more ways to utilize tight ends in their offense, and the Chargers are no exception…the Bolts have the NFL’s most prolific pass-catching tight end in Antonio Gates, a Pro Bowl starter and consensus first-team All-Pro the last three seasons…Gates led the Chargers during the 2006 season with 71 receptions for 924 yards and nine touchdowns…a big-play threat, Gates led the NFL in 2006 with 14 catches of 20+ yards…he also contributed mightily to the Chargers’ run game, utilizing blocking skills that he has worked to refine since entering the league…one of the League’s best blocking tight ends is Brandon Manumaleuna, who came to the Chargers in a 2006 draft-day trade with the St. Louis Rams in exchange for a fourth-round draft choice…at 6-2 and close to 300 pounds, Manumaleuna’s frame is similar to that of an offensive lineman and he certainly blocks like one…he’s a versatile player who has lined up at fullback and H-back during the course of his career…Manamaleuna finished last season tied for second on the team with three touchdown catches…in the fourth round of the 2007 NFL Draft, the Chargers added Scott Chandler…only one tight end in Iowa history caught more passes than Chandler, but the 6-7, 265 pounder is dedicated to being a two-dimensional player…in college, Chandler worked under former NFL offensive line coach Kirk Ferentz to improve his blocking…fifth-round draft pick Legedu Naanee played wide receiver and quarterback at Boise State but is working with Bolts tight ends and wide receivers…at 6-2, 226 pounds, Naanee is big, strong and athletic and lines up all over the field…Head Coach Norv Turner loves his versatility and plans to find various ways to use Naanee.

WIDE RECEIVER: Late last season, Vincent Jackson took over a starting role and the 6-5, 240-pounder took full advantage of his opportunity to contribute…in the final seven games of the season, Jackson caught 20 passes for 357 yards and four touchdowns, including the game-winner at Seattle on Christmas Eve…like Jackson, fellow third-year receiver Malcom Floyd showed flashes in 2006 and hopes to build on that experience this fall…Floyd caught 15 passes for 210 yards and three touchdowns…he turned in a 109-yard performance, the only 100-yard game by a Chargers wide receiver last season, during the team’s dramatic comeback win at Cincinnati, but in the process he suffered an ankle injury that eventually cost him his season…Floyd spent the offseason working on his strength and consistency…with the size of Jackson and Floyd, the Chargers have two enticing red-zone targets who have shown the ability to make big plays…the Chargers believe they’ve found the perfect complement to their bigger receivers in speedster Craig “Buster” Davis, their first-round pick from LSU in the 2007 NFL Draft (30th overall)…the 6-1, 207-pound Davis has the speed to stretch NFL defenses and the route-running ability to allow him to affectively work underneath…Head Coach Norv Turner said on draft day that he believes Davis has the best hands of any receiver in this year’s rookie class…Kassim Osgood has established himself as one of the game’s top special teams players, but the Pro Bowler would like an opportunity to be more involved in the offense…at 6-5, Osgood is another big receiver who has the speed to stretch the field and could contribute to the passing game…sixth-year veteran Eric Parker has caught 105 passes for 1,384 yards over the past two seasons…he had toe surgery on Aug. 3 and is expected to be out of action through at least the first six weeks of the regular season…Parker’s tireless work ethic and ability to lead by example has endeared him to teammates, and Parker’s reliability has allowed him to gain the utmost confidence of his quarterback.

OFFENSIVE LINE: Due in large part to the outstanding play of their offensive line, the Chargers amassed 5,840 total yards and a league-high 59 touchdowns in 2006, including a team-record 2,578 yards rushing…the unit also posted a League-high 32 rushing touchdowns, 11 more than the next highest run-TD producing team…for the fifth consecutive season, the Chargers’ offense gained more than 2,000 yards rushing, the longest streak in team history and tying the Denver Broncos for the longest active streak in the NFL…working with the offensive line are coaches Jack Henry and Hal Hunter, who stress assignment responsibility and attention to detail…such principles paid off in 2006 as the labors of the offensive line led to 506 more yards and 10 more rushing touchdowns than the season prior…the line also helped running back LaDainian Tomlinson earn NFL MVP honors after racking up a league rushing title 1,815 yards, including a record-breaking 28 rushing and 31 total touchdowns…behind this unit, quarterback Philip Rivers appeared poised in his first year as a starter, finishing with 3,388 yards passing, 22 touchdowns and a Pro Bowl selection…such composure can be attributed largely to an offensive line which allowed only 28 sacks all year, tied for eighth fewest in the NFL…although relatively young, the line finds leadership and experience in durable 10-year veteran guard Mike Goff, who enters the season with a string of 74 consecutive starts, the last 48 with the Chargers…the unit’s next senior lineman is five-year veteran guard Kris Dielman whose efforts over the last two seasons recently earned him a new six-year contract…setting the tone with his physicality, Dielman is ascending as one of the League’s most respected guards and it would come as no surprise to see him in Hawaii after the regular season…situated between the two guards is center Nick Hardwick, who was selected to his first Pro Bowl last season…Hardwick is a former high school wrestler who is quite effective at using his leverage to hold off oversized opponents…he also serves as a leader on the field as he is charged with calling the blocking schemes prior to each snap…his easy-going personality and sense of humor help keep the group loose…joining Hardwick in Hawaii this past February was then-rookie left tackle Marcus McNeill, whose talent was evident early in the season when he earned September’s NFL Offensive Rookie of the Month accolades…despite suffering broken bones in both hands in training camp, McNeill never missed a start, allowed only two sacks all season and wasn’t called for a single holding penalty…McNeill ended the year on a high note, finishing fourth in NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year voting and looks to build on his success in 2007…Shane Olivea maintains the starting right tackle job that he won as a rookie four years ago…Olivea plays with a mean streak and uses his strong punch to push opponents off the ball…over the past couple of years, he’s faced many of the NFL’s elite pass rushers and delivered impressive performances…a tribute to their toughness, the five starters missed only one start in the entire regular season last year…this consistency allowed the unit to develop camaraderie and confidence, particularly towards the latter part of the season when the Chargers enjoyed a 10-game winning streak…the few times starters did miss action in 2006, it provided an opportunity for younger linemen to gain valuable experience…guard Scott Mruczkowski successfully neutralized Raiders defensive tackle Warren Sapp while playing in place of Dielman in Week 11…Twelve-year veteran tackle Roman Oben stood strong in Week 15 in relief of McNeill…veteran center Cory Withrow appeared in 11 contests and played well against a tenacious Cincinnati D-line in Week 9…tackle Jeromey Clary, a 2006 sixth-round draft pick, spent last season on the Bolts’ practice squad.

2007 DEFENSE AT A GLANCE

DEFENSIVE LINE: Standing strong against the run has become a trademark for the Chargers’ defense, and the return of a talented defensive line should make 2007 no exception…the Chargers have ranked in the top 10 in rushing yards allowed both per game and per carry in seven out of the past 10 seasons…despite starters missing nine games along the defensive line last fall, the Bolts gave up just 100.8 yards per game on the ground, seventh best in the NFL…Jamal Williams is one of the main reasons why the Chargers have been so successful against the run over the last decade…the 10-year veteran is coming off another stellar season in which he earned his second-consecutive vote to the Pro Bowl…although nose tackles in a 3-4 defense generally help others make plays rather than making plays themselves, Williams ranked third on the team with a career-high 84 tackles in 2006…Williams remains at the top of his game and is poised for another strong season anchoring the defense…while the man in the middle receives plenty of attention, the starters stationed next to him are also getting recognized…despite missing six games last season due to an ankle injury, defensive end Luis Castillo still finished the season with seven sacks…of defensive linemen playing in a 3-4 defense, only Baltimore’s Trevor Pryce and New England’s Ty Warren surpassed Castillo’s sack total a year ago…although he was slowed by his nagging ankle, Castillo was named an alternate to the Pro Bowl…few players in the NFL work harder at maintaining their physical tools than starting right end Igor Olshansky…a warrior in the weight room, Olshansky uses his brute strength to gain leverage on opposing linemen and win battle after battle in the trenches…the former Oregon Duck was primed for a huge year last fall before a knee injury he suffered just minutes into the season opener at Oakland set him back…Olshansky missed three starts after having his knee scoped, yet still posted 33 tackles and 1.5 sacks…with health on his side in 2007, Olshansky’s fourth professional season could be a big one…perhaps no reserve lineman was more valuable to his team in 2006 than defensive end Jacques Cesaire…with Olshansky and Castillo sidelined, Cesaire started 10 games last season and finished the year with career highs in tackles (47) and sacks (4)…Cesaire proved versatile as well as he started at both end positions while the Chargers didn’t miss a beat defensively…Ryon Bingham’s third NFL season provided his first major playing time, and Bingham took advantage of his opportunities…he posted 20 tackles and 1.5 sacks while playing both end and tackle and proved to be a valuable reserve throughout the season…defensive tackle Brandon McKinney began the 2006 season on the practice squad but performed well enough to earn his way onto the active roster by Week 10…McKinney was able to spell Williams late in the season and gained valuable experience that he’ll carry into the second year of his pro career.

INSIDE LINEBACKER: The most significant change on the roster takes place at in side linebacker where Stephen Cooper and Matt Wilhelm take over as starters…they replace the retired Randall Godfrey and Donnie Edwards, who signed with Kansas City…both are veteran players who have seen extensive playing time, particularly Cooper who was the team’s fourth-leading defender in 2006 with 82 stops…Wilhelm hasn’t seen the defensive reps that Cooper has, but he has logged extensive action on special teams…at 6-4 and 245 pounds, Wilhelm is one of the team’s most athletic linebackers…second-year man Tim Dobbins, a fifth-round choice from Iowa State in 2006, and rookie Anthony Waters of Clemson, a third-round choice in 2007, are the backups…Dobbins was the team’s third-leading performer on special teams in 2006, logging 18 tackles in the kicking game…also providing depth is Brandon Siler, a 2007 seventh-round draft choice from Florida.

OUTSIDE LINEBACKER: The strength of San Diego’s defense rests in its linebacker corps, particularly its outside linebackers…Shawne Merriman, a Pro Bowl selection each of his first two seasons and runner-up for the NFL’s Defensive Player of the Year Award in 2006, anchors the group…Merriman won the NFL’s sack title with 17 sacks in 2006 and he is one of the league’s most ferocious hitters…lining up opposite Merriman on the outside is Shaun Phillips, who came into his own as a first-year starter in 2006…Phillips tied for ninth in the league and ranked second to Merriman among linebackers with 11.5 sacks…Merriman and Phillips helped the Bolts rack up a league-leading 61 sacks in 2006, second-most in a season in team history…depth at outside linebacker comes from veterans Marques Harris and Carlos Polk…Harris made a name for himself for his patented back-handspring following big plays, which were plenty in 2006 as he racked up three sacks and a couple of tackles for loss among his 25 stops…Polk is a fiery leader of the defense who bounced back in 2006 after two injury-plagued seasons…Polk collected 32 tackles and a pair of sacks while being named his team’s winner of the Ed Block Courage Award.

CORNERBACK: Right corner Quentin Jammer had the best season of his career in 2006 and looks to build on that performance this fall…he tied a career-high with four interceptions last season and finished second on the team with 89 tackles…the Chargers will continue to count on him to shut down the opponents’ best receiver…opposite Jammer, Drayton Florence returns as the starting left corner…Florence had another solid season last fall with three interceptions and 63 tackles…he’ll continue to move inside and play the nickel position when opponents bring out three wide receivers…Antonio Cromartie, the team’s top selection in the 2006 NFL Draft, saw his share of action as a rookie serving as the team’s third corner…he also contributed on special teams…the Chargers are deep at corner, and that position grew even deeper in early July when the team grabbed Georgia cornerback Paul Oliver in the fourth round of the NFL’s Supplemental Draft…Oliver is an instinctive athlete who plays hard and competes with passion…Cletis Gordon had a chance to display his athleticism on special teams as a rookie and hopes to contribute defensively this year…he also has experience as a returner and could be looked at to contribute on both punt and kickoff returns…Steve Gregory can play both corner and safety and was one of the Bolts’ top special teams players last year, finishing fifth on the squad with 12 tackles in the kicking game.

SAFETY: Heading into the 2006 season, several members of the Chargers’ secondary made it known that it was time for perception to change…after finishing 28th in the NFL against the pass in 2005, the Bolts improved to 13th last fall as several players in the defensive backfield turned in solid years and continued to enhance their play…the 2007 season brings a few new faces to the Chargers secondary, but the attitude that helped the group enjoy a productive 2006 remains strong as the defensive backs look to continue to grow as a unit…the secondary is under new leadership as Bill Bradley and Kevin Ross are now the coaches in charge….both Bradley and Ross are former Pro Bowl players who pride themselves on fundamentals and preparation…one of the biggest competitions of training camp was for the starting job at strong safety, where fifth-year veteran Clinton Hart edged out rookie Eric Weddle, the team’s second-round pick in April’s draft…Hart had a strong offseason and is widely considered one of the best all-around athletes on the team…he’s started 15 games in his career and has shown a knack for getting to the ball, as evident by his three interceptions last season despite playing mostly as a reserve…Weddle is a versatile and smart athlete who lined up all over the field in college and regularly showed up in highlight reels…prior to the 2006 season, the Chargers made only one significant move in free agency, one that delivered a big payoff…Marlon McCree made an immediate impact on the group with his leadership skills…the seventh-year veteran is back to lock down the free safety spot after posting 80 tackles (fifth on the team), one sack, a fumble recovery and one interception in his first season as a Charger.

2007 SPECIAL TEAMS AT A GLANCE

SPECIALISTS: The Chargers special teams are among the NFL’s best…kicker Nate Kaeding kicked the game-winning field goal for the AFC in the 2007 Pro Bowl to conclude a season in which he delivered on 26-of-29 field goal attempts…he has also hit a team-record 129 consecutive point after attempts coming into the ’07 season…Kaeding’s leg strength has improved year-to-year and last season, the fourth-year player from Iowa and former third-round draft choice had a career-high 11 touchbacks…punter Mike Scifres, who also holds on placements, was named the AFC’s first-alternate to the Pro Bowl in 2006…Scifres’ career average of 42.9 yards per punt is among the highest in team history…he’s coming off a season in which he landed a team record 35 punts inside the 20-yard line with only two of his 69 attempts going for touchbacks, the lowest touchback total of his career…veteran long snapper David Binn, who is the team’s all-time record-holder for career games played, was finally selected to his first career Pro Bowl as he was selected as the AFC’s special teams “needs” player for the 2007 rendition of the game…Binn is one of the most accuarate deep snappers in the NFL.

HIGHLIGHTS OF THE 2006 SEASON

• The Chargers went 14-2 and captured their second AFC West title in the last three seasons.

• The Bolts clinched the top-seed in the AFC and home-field advantage in the AFC Playoffs for only the third-time in team history.

• The Bolts went 8-0 at home, winning eight games at home for the first time in team history.

• The Chargers went 5-0 against teams that were in the playoffs the previous season.

• The Chargers closed out the regular season with 10 straight wins.

• The Chargers led the NFL and set a team record by scoring 492 points.

• The Bolts set a new team record with 32 rushing touchdowns, including an NFL record 28 by League MVP and Offensive Player of the Year LaDainian Tomlinson.

• The Chargers rushed for a team-record 2,578 yards to finish second in the NFL in rushing…Tomlinson captured the League’s rushing title with 1,815 yards.

• Quarterback Philip Rivers had a Pro Bowl season in his first year as the Bolts’ starter…he completed 61.7 percent of his passes (284-of-460) for 3,388 yards, 22 TDs and just 9 INTs for a passer rating of 92.0.

• The Bolts led the NFL with 61 sacks, including an NFL-best 17 by Shawne “Lights Out” Merriman.

• The Chargers led the NFL in touchdowns (42) and touchdown percentage (.677) inside the 20-yard line.

• The Chargers posted come from behind wins of 21 and 17 points at Cincinnati and Denver, respectively, in consecutive weeks…they became the first team in NFL history to overcome 17-point-or-greater comebacks in consecutive weeks.

• The Bolts had a team-record 11 players selected to the 2007 Pro Bowl.

• The Chargers set a team attendance record with 531,031 fans turning out for their eight regular-season home games.

Bears Notes

The defending NFC Champion Chicago Bears begin their 2007 regular season on Sunday at Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego against the Chargers. The two teams square off after finishing with the best record in their respective conferences last season. The Bears finished the 2006 regular season with a 13-3 record en route to their second consecutive NFC North title and would go on to win their first NFC Championship in 21 years in just their third season under head coach Lovie Smith. Chicago will be opening the regular season on the road for a third consecutive season and sixth time in the last eight years against a Chargers squad that went 14-2 in the AFC last season, the best record in the NFL.

Returning 20 regular starters from last season when they went 7-1 on the road, the Bears will be looking for their fifth-straight victory in the series with the Chargers, including a third-straight win in San Diego. After defeating the Packers in Green Bay, 26-0, to open the 2006 regular season, the Bears aim to record back-to-back wins in season openers on the road for the first time since 1962-63.

Beginning their fourth year under the tutelage of Smith, Chicago will seek to jump out to another quick start after opening the 2006 regular season with seven consecutive victories. The Bears went 2-2 against AFC opponents last season and are 92-92-1 all-time against foes currently belonging to the conference.

"O" IT'S YOU AGAIN

The projected starters for the 2007 Chicago Bears offense will look very similar to last year’s high-scoring lineup that ranked tied for second in the NFL in points per game (26.7). Ten of the Bears 11 opening day starters last season are back with the only change coming at running back where Cedric Benson will take over for Thomas Jones. The Bears 2007 projected starting lineup has played 1078 career regular season games with 870 starts.

STEA-"D"

Ten of 11 primary starters are returning from the Bears defensive unit that allowed the third fewest points per game (15.9) last season and fifth fewest total yards per contest (294.1). With added depth, the Bears defense will have a slightly different look compared to last season. At defensive end Mark Anderson will start on the right side and Adewale Ogunleye on the left, with last year’s starting RDE Alex Brown rotating in at both ends. After spending last season on IR, Dusty Dvoracek will start at nose tackle. In the secondary, Mike Brown will return to free safety where he spent the first five seasons of his career. Off-season acquisition Adam Archuleta will start at SS. MLB Brian Urlacher anchors the defense having started 103-of-105 career games played. As a unit, the defense averages almost 51 starts per player with Anderson and Dvoracek the only two players without at least 35 career starts.

ENOUGH CED

As the Bears increased RB Cedric Benson’s workload in the final 7 games of the 2006 regular season he responded with in an rise in production as well. With 432 yards on 88 carries, Benson finished 7th in the NFL in rushing average (4.9 ypc) during that 7 week span.

REX FACTOR

Since joining the NFL in 2003, Bears QB Rex Grossman has shown his ability to create big plays. He ranks 6th in the NFL during that time in yards per completion.

GROSS PRODUCT

Owning the second-best career regular season winning percentage of any Chicago QB dating back to 1961 at .739 (17-6), Rex Grossman looks to continue his winning ways after recording the highest single-season victory total for a Bears QB since the adoption of the NFL’s 16-game schedule with 13 in 2006. Grossman will aim to become the first individual Bears QB since Erik Kramer in 1994-1995 to record season opening wins in back-to-back seasons. Grossman is also second among active QBs with at least 20 career starts in win percentage.

BIG PLAY BERNARD

Bernard Berrian ranks 7th in the NFL over the last three seasons among players with at least 60 receptions with an average of 15.8 yards per catch.

ELITE COMPANY

Muhsin Muhammad enters the 2007 needing just 636 receiving yards to reach the 10,000-career receiving yards mark, a plateau achieved by just 27 players in the history of the NFL. Muhammad would become the first player ever to don a Chicago uniform to join the elusive group. His 1,613 yards with the Bears in just two seasons in Chicago already ranks 32nd in franchise history.

ON THE MARK

During his first two NFL seasons, Mark Bradley has shown flashes of being a big-play threat ranking among the NFL’s best in yards per catch. In each of his first two seasons Bradley has recorded the Bears longest play from scrimmage. During his rookie season in 2005, Bradley’s 54-yard reception at DET (10/30) tied for the Bears longest play from scrimmage. Last year the Oklahoma product recorded a career-long 75-yard touchdown reception in the regular season finale.

YO ADRIAN

While mostly known for his strong special teams play, sixth-year veteran Adrian Peterson has been one of the most productive running backs in the NFL when given the football on offense. For his career, Peterson ranks 10th in the NFL among active running backs with at least 100 rushes, with a 4.68 yards per carry average.

CORNERING THE MARKET

Bears starting cornerbacks Nathan Vasher (11) and Charles Tillman (10) form the only CB tandem in the NFL to each record double-digit INTs with the same team over the course of the last two seasons. Their 21 INTs since 2005 are the most by an NFC CB duo and tied for 2nd most in the NFL during that time.

AIR CONTROL

The Bears defense has held opposing quarterbacks to a league-low 68.4 passer rating since the Lovie Smith era started in 2004. During that time the Bears defense has forced their quarterbacking foes to throw 65 interceptions (second-most in NFL) while allowing just 51 touchdown passes (fourth-fewest). Over the past three years Chicago is allowing an NFL-low 6.1 yards per passing attempt (10,048 yards on 1,646 attempts).

THREE STRIKES AND THEY'RE OUT

Last season the Bears defense finished second in the NFL by allowing opponents to convert on third-down 31.0 percent of the time. Under the tutelage of head coach Lovie Smith, Chicago leads the NFL in the third-down defense, as the opposition has been successful just 31.1 percent of the time on third-down opportunities over the last three seasons.

RED ALERT

Leading the NFL since 2004 by allowing opponents to score on just 75.4 percent of their trips to the red-zone, the Bears defense has given up just 55 touchdowns and 46 field goals in 134 opponent red zone incursions during that time. Chicago’s defense also ranks second in the NFL under head coach Lovie Smith’s leadership with a three-year redzone TD ratio of 41.04-percent.

GOULD DIGGIN'

PK Robbie Gould finished the 2006 season leading all NFL kickers with 143 points and became the first Bears kicker to lead the NFC in scoring since Kevin Butler led the conference with 120 points in 1986. Gould is the Bears all-time leader in field goal percentage among kickers with at least 50 attempts, connecting on 84.1 percent of his kicks.

ANYTIME, ANYWHERE

Bears KR/PR Devin Hester enters his second season in the NFL after setting an NFL record for return touchdowns in a season with six (3 - PR, 2 - KR, 1 - missed FG). Hester enters the 2007 season as the NFL’s active leader in punt return average at 12.8 yards per return after setting a single-season franchise record with 600 punt return yards.

 
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I like IND v. NO better, personally.
None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.
Bears can play Offense? News to me.
Maybe you should watch more football....look at the stats shown below. Oh, and their worst scoring game (7 pts) was in the last meaningless game where they did not care and benched everyone at half time. Next time, bring some facts to the party :rolleyes: Bears points scored first for all games below:

26-0

34-7

19-16

37-6

40-7

24-23

41-10

13-31

38-20

10-0

13-17

23-13

42-27

34-31

26-21

7-26

NFL Ranks for Offense Scoring for 2006 Regular season (Chargers & Bears were 1 & 2):

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Pts Pts/G Rsh Rec PRet KRet INT FUM Blk FG Blk Pnt XPM FGM SFTY 2-PT

1 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 492 30.8 32 24 0 0 0 3 0 0 58 26 0 1

2 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 14 24 3 2 1 2 0 0 47 32 1 0

2 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 17 31 1 0 0 1 0 0 47 26 0 1

4 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 425 26.6 21 26 1 0 3 1 0 0 49 20 0 2

5 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 413 25.8 19 27 1 0 0 1 0 1 46 23 0 2

6 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 398 24.9 13 31 0 0 4 1 0 0 48 18 0 1

7 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 385 24.1 20 25 0 1 0 0 0 0 43 20 1 2

8 Cincinnati Bengals 16 23.3 373 373 23.3 14 28 0 0 1 0 0 0 40 25 0 0

9 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 23.2 371 371 23.2 23 17 0 1 1 0 0 0 41 26 0 0

10 St. Louis Rams 16 22.9 367 367 22.9 13 24 0 0 1 1 0 0 35 32 0 1

11 New York Giants 16 22.2 355 355 22.2 14 24 0 0 2 1 0 0 38 23 1 0

12 Baltimore Ravens 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 11 21 0 0 5 1 0 0 37 28 2 0

12 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 16 23 1 0 2 0 0 0 41 20 0 0

14 Seattle Seahawks 16 20.9 335 335 20.9 8 26 1 0 1 1 0 0 36 25 0 1

15 Kansas City Chiefs 16 20.7 331 331 20.7 17 18 1 0 0 0 0 1 35 24 0 1

16 Tennessee Titans 16 20.2 324 324 20.2 15 13 3 0 2 3 0 0 32 22 2 3

17 Denver Broncos 16 19.9 319 319 19.9 12 20 0 0 2 0 0 0 34 27 0 0

18 New York Jets 16 19.8 316 316 19.8 15 17 0 2 0 1 0 0 34 24 0 0

19 Arizona Cardinals 16 19.6 314 314 19.6 12 17 0 1 1 2 0 0 32 28 0 0

20 Washington Redskins 16 19.2 307 307 19.2 13 19 1 1 0 0 0 0 31 22 1 2

21 Detroit Lions 16 19.1 305 305 19.1 9 21 0 0 1 0 0 0 30 29 1 0

22 Green Bay Packers 16 18.8 301 301 18.8 9 18 0 0 4 1 0 0 31 26 0 0

23 Buffalo Bills 16 18.8 300 300 18.8 9 19 1 0 2 2 0 0 33 23 0 0

24 San Francisco 49ers 16 18.6 298 298 18.6 12 16 0 0 1 1 0 0 29 29 1 0

25 Atlanta Falcons 16 18.2 292 292 18.2 9 21 0 0 1 1 0 0 31 23 0 0

26 Minnesota Vikings 16 17.6 282 282 17.6 12 13 1 0 3 3 0 0 27 21 0 0

27 Carolina Panthers 16 16.9 270 270 16.9 7 19 0 0 2 0 0 0 28 24 1 0

28 Houston Texans 16 16.7 267 267 16.7 13 14 0 0 1 2 0 0 26 19 0 2

29 Miami Dolphins 16 16.2 260 260 16.2 7 16 0 0 2 1 0 0 22 26 0 2

30 Cleveland Browns 16 14.9 238 238 14.9 7 15 0 1 1 1 0 0 25 21 0 0

31 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 13.2 211 211 13.2 6 14 0 0 3 0 0 0 22 17 0 0

32 Oakland Raiders 16 10.5 168 168 10.5 5 7 0 0 2 2 0 0 16 18 1 0

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Actually their offense only scored 3 points against Arizona and 7 points in the second game versus Minnesota. You can't lump in Hester's kick returns and the Bears defensive returns for scores and say the offense is good. If you take out all the Bears kick returns and defensive scores, they only averaged about 22 points per game. Whipping on great defenses of San Fran ranked 32nd in points allowed, Detroit ranked 30th in points allowed, St. Louis ranked 28th in points allowed, New York Giants ranked 24th in points allowed and TB ranked 21st in points allowed. In fact the only team they scored more than 20 points against ranked in the top half of the league in points allowed was Buffalo. Every other team the offense couldn't must 20 measly points. And I don't even want to look at how many of those offensive points were scored because of the defense or return game put them in field goal range to start the drive. I bet it would be more than a few.4 field goals and a TD against GB the first game and Minnesota the first game.

3 points against Arizona.

13 points against Miami.

10 points against the NYJ.

13 points against NE.

7 points against Minnesota the second time.

And I won't count the last GB game because they didn't try to win that one.
Miami, NE and Minny are actually very good defenses, in case you did not notice. Most teams could not score points on them :rolleyes: Against the Jets, the Bears intentionally decided to play very conservative on O and do just enough to win the game.

Arizona was an anamoly because of the turnovers.....the Cards were pumped on their opening night of their new stadium and they brought it all to the Bears. Everyone has a bad night.....the Bears O had it that day/night. Are you going to point to Peyton Manning's horrible playoff performances and claim he is bottom tier since he could not perform against the Ravens or Chiefs D?
On the converse, in case you did not notice. Most teams COULD score against the teams the Bears scored on. :rolleyes: Should we annoint the Bears offense as good because they were able to score TDs against the some of the worst Ds in the NFL?
While some homerism can be appreciated (it's why I'm replying to your post - displaced Chargers homer here), you have to admit that the Chargers' offense is vastly superior to the Bears. QB: Rivers >> Grossman

RB: Tomlinson (>>)>>> Benson

TE: Gates >> Clark

WR: SD > CHI

O-line: SD > CHI

D-line: wash

LB: Bears by a little

DB: SD < CHI

ST: SD < CHI

I can understand you getting a little testy when a post reads that the Bears can't play offense, but IMO the Bears O is average. If they had an average D and average ST, they'd be a middle of the pack NFC team.

 
While some homerism can be appreciated (it's why I'm replying to your post - displaced Chargers homer here), you have to admit that the Chargers' offense is vastly superior to the Bears. QB: Rivers >> GrossmanRB: Tomlinson (>>)>>> BensonTE: Gates >> ClarkWR: SD > CHIO-line: SD > CHID-line: washLB: Bears by a littleDB: SD < CHIST: SD < CHII can understand you getting a little testy when a post reads that the Bears can't play offense, but IMO the Bears O is average. If they had an average D and average ST, they'd be a middle of the pack NFC team.
While that's all when and good, at no time on Sunday will the two offenses play each other. Yes, if the Bears "had an average D and average ST, they'd be a middle of the pack NFC team." - just like if you took LT, Gates and Rivers off the Chargers they'd be a middle of the pack AFC team. :rolleyes: And I do take exception to two of your rankings:Vincent Jackson and Craig Davis > Moose and Berrian :shrug: So 2 guys that have started 7 NFL games combined are better than two guys who combined for over 1,600 receiving yards last year? Ummm...no. Now Vincent Jackson should have more than 453 yards this season, but still. Or are you including the oft injured Eric Parker in that thought - who has never had more than 725 yards receiving in a season (Just for comparison, in the last 5 years, Moose hasn't had LESS than 750).D-Line = wash Really? I'm not sure where to start with this one. Just look at Maurille's notes. While the Chargers have a stout run D, the Bears pass rush coming from their front four (especially with a healthy Tommy Harris) is a thing to behold - unless you're an opposing QB.
 
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....OTOH the Colts & Saints D are horrible compared to the average D in the league. Bears play on O and D....Saints & Colts do not. ...
Isn't the average defense 16th or 17th in the league " :shrug: Let's at least keep the facts straight: in 2006, the Saints were 13th overall in points allowed, 11th in total yards allowed, and 4th in first downs allowed (plus 3rd in 3 and outs, and 6th in 3rd down defense efficiency). Seems that they were at least average on D last year.

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And the Aints D is so horrible, that the "so called bad Bears O" pounded them for 30+
A 5-0 turnover advantage will do that ...
 
While some homerism can be appreciated (it's why I'm replying to your post - displaced Chargers homer here), you have to admit that the Chargers' offense is vastly superior to the Bears. QB: Rivers >> GrossmanRB: Tomlinson (>>)>>> BensonTE: Gates >> ClarkWR: SD > CHIO-line: SD > CHID-line: washLB: Bears by a littleDB: SD < CHIST: SD < CHII can understand you getting a little testy when a post reads that the Bears can't play offense, but IMO the Bears O is average. If they had an average D and average ST, they'd be a middle of the pack NFC team.
While that's all when and good, at no time on Sunday will the two offenses play each other. Yes, if the Bears "had an average D and average ST, they'd be a middle of the pack NFC team." - just like if you took LT, Gates and Rivers off the Chargers they'd be a middle of the pack AFC team. :shrug: And I do take exception to two of your rankings:Vincent Jackson and Craig Davis > Moose and Berrian :shrug: So 2 guys that have started 7 NFL games combined are better than two guys who combined for over 1,600 receiving yards last year? Ummm...no. Now Vincent Jackson should have more than 453 yards this season, but still. Or are you including the oft injured Eric Parker in that thought - who has never had more than 725 yards receiving in a season (Just for comparison, in the last 5 years, Moose hasn't had LESS than 750).D-Line = wash Really? I'm not sure where to start with this one. Just look at Maurille's notes. While the Chargers have a stout run D, the Bears pass rush coming from their front four (especially with a healthy Tommy Harris) is a thing to behold - unless you're an opposing QB.
Yeah, I got the bracket going the wrong way on the receivers, my bad. That said Berrian is only marginally better than Jackson if you buy into most projections and Muhammad is getting a little long in the tooth. Factor in Gates and Tomlinson as receivers and the Chargers have the edge.As for the Bears 'thing to behold' pass rush, perhaps the comparison is better as front 7 to front 7 when you put a 3-4 against a 4-3. The Bears recorded a respectable 40 sacks last year vs. the Chargers 61.Yeah, I agree about the middle of the pack AFC team if the Chargers were playing without a quarterback, tight end and running back. Ha.
 
Just throwing this out there.

Last year's Bears vs. AFC Teams (2-2)

Last year's Chargers vs. NFC Teams (4-0)

 
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....OTOH the Colts & Saints D are horrible compared to the average D in the league. Bears play on O and D....Saints & Colts do not. ...
Isn't the average defense 16th or 17th in the league " :headbang: Let's at least keep the facts straight: in 2006, the Saints were 13th overall in points allowed, 11th in total yards allowed, and 4th in first downs allowed (plus 3rd in 3 and outs, and 6th in 3rd down defense efficiency). Seems that they were at least average on D last year.

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And the Aints D is so horrible, that the "so called bad Bears O" pounded them for 30+
A 5-0 turnover advantage will do that ...

So you are telling me the Saints O is horrible? Because we all know when Grossman/Bears make turnovers, it means their O is horrible right?I love some of the flip flops around here some times.... pure comedy :thumbup:

 
While some homerism can be appreciated (it's why I'm replying to your post - displaced Chargers homer here), you have to admit that the Chargers' offense is vastly superior to the Bears.

QB: Rivers >> Grossman

RB: Tomlinson (>>)>>> Benson

TE: Gates >> Clark

WR: SD > CHI

O-line: SD > CHI

D-line: wash

LB: Bears by a little

DB: SD < CHI

ST: SD < CHI

I can understand you getting a little testy when a post reads that the Bears can't play offense, but IMO the Bears O is average. If they had an average D and average ST, they'd be a middle of the pack NFC team.
While that's all when and good, at no time on Sunday will the two offenses play each other. Yes, if the Bears "had an average D and average ST, they'd be a middle of the pack NFC team." - just like if you took LT, Gates and Rivers off the Chargers they'd be a middle of the pack AFC team. :thumbup: And I do take exception to two of your rankings:

Vincent Jackson and Craig Davis > Moose and Berrian :headbang: So 2 guys that have started 7 NFL games combined are better than two guys who combined for over 1,600 receiving yards last year? Ummm...no. Now Vincent Jackson should have more than 453 yards this season, but still. Or are you including the oft injured Eric Parker in that thought - who has never had more than 725 yards receiving in a season (Just for comparison, in the last 5 years, Moose hasn't had LESS than 750).

D-Line = wash Really? I'm not sure where to start with this one. Just look at Maurille's notes. While the Chargers have a stout run D, the Bears pass rush coming from their front four (especially with a healthy Tommy Harris) is a thing to behold - unless you're an opposing QB.
Yeah, I got the bracket going the wrong way on the receivers, my bad. That said Berrian is only marginally better than Jackson if you buy into most projections and Muhammad is getting a little long in the tooth. Factor in Gates and Tomlinson as receivers and the Chargers have the edge.As for the Bears 'thing to behold' pass rush, perhaps the comparison is better as front 7 to front 7 when you put a 3-4 against a 4-3. The Bears recorded a respectable 40 sacks last year vs. the Chargers 61.

Yeah, I agree about the middle of the pack AFC team if the Chargers were playing without a quarterback, tight end and running back. Ha.
Who cares about projections....call me when Vincent Jackson actually even has a 1000 yard season. Other than that it is all hype.
 
Just something to think about the Chargers have to travel to New England in week 2 so they may over look the bears, I wouldn't be surprised if the bears came out of San Diego 1-0.

 
I like IND v. NO better, personally.
None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.
Bears can play Offense? News to me.
Maybe you should watch more football....look at the stats shown below. Oh, and their worst scoring game (7 pts) was in the last meaningless game where they did not care and benched everyone at half time. Next time, bring some facts to the party :excited: Bears points scored first for all games below:

26-0

34-7

19-16

37-6

40-7

24-23

41-10

13-31

38-20

10-0

13-17

23-13

42-27

34-31

26-21

7-26

NFL Ranks for Offense Scoring for 2006 Regular season (Chargers & Bears were 1 & 2):

Rank Team G Pts/G TotPts Pts Pts/G Rsh Rec PRet KRet INT FUM Blk FG Blk Pnt XPM FGM SFTY 2-PT

1 San Diego Chargers 16 30.8 492 492 30.8 32 24 0 0 0 3 0 0 58 26 0 1

2 Chicago Bears 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 14 24 3 2 1 2 0 0 47 32 1 0

2 Indianapolis Colts 16 26.7 427 427 26.7 17 31 1 0 0 1 0 0 47 26 0 1

4 Dallas Cowboys 16 26.6 425 425 26.6 21 26 1 0 3 1 0 0 49 20 0 2

5 New Orleans Saints 16 25.8 413 413 25.8 19 27 1 0 0 1 0 1 46 23 0 2

6 Philadelphia Eagles 16 24.9 398 398 24.9 13 31 0 0 4 1 0 0 48 18 0 1

7 New England Patriots 16 24.1 385 385 24.1 20 25 0 1 0 0 0 0 43 20 1 2

8 Cincinnati Bengals 16 23.3 373 373 23.3 14 28 0 0 1 0 0 0 40 25 0 0

9 Jacksonville Jaguars 16 23.2 371 371 23.2 23 17 0 1 1 0 0 0 41 26 0 0

10 St. Louis Rams 16 22.9 367 367 22.9 13 24 0 0 1 1 0 0 35 32 0 1

11 New York Giants 16 22.2 355 355 22.2 14 24 0 0 2 1 0 0 38 23 1 0

12 Baltimore Ravens 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 11 21 0 0 5 1 0 0 37 28 2 0

12 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 22.1 353 353 22.1 16 23 1 0 2 0 0 0 41 20 0 0

14 Seattle Seahawks 16 20.9 335 335 20.9 8 26 1 0 1 1 0 0 36 25 0 1

15 Kansas City Chiefs 16 20.7 331 331 20.7 17 18 1 0 0 0 0 1 35 24 0 1

16 Tennessee Titans 16 20.2 324 324 20.2 15 13 3 0 2 3 0 0 32 22 2 3

17 Denver Broncos 16 19.9 319 319 19.9 12 20 0 0 2 0 0 0 34 27 0 0

18 New York Jets 16 19.8 316 316 19.8 15 17 0 2 0 1 0 0 34 24 0 0

19 Arizona Cardinals 16 19.6 314 314 19.6 12 17 0 1 1 2 0 0 32 28 0 0

20 Washington Redskins 16 19.2 307 307 19.2 13 19 1 1 0 0 0 0 31 22 1 2

21 Detroit Lions 16 19.1 305 305 19.1 9 21 0 0 1 0 0 0 30 29 1 0

22 Green Bay Packers 16 18.8 301 301 18.8 9 18 0 0 4 1 0 0 31 26 0 0

23 Buffalo Bills 16 18.8 300 300 18.8 9 19 1 0 2 2 0 0 33 23 0 0

24 San Francisco 49ers 16 18.6 298 298 18.6 12 16 0 0 1 1 0 0 29 29 1 0

25 Atlanta Falcons 16 18.2 292 292 18.2 9 21 0 0 1 1 0 0 31 23 0 0

26 Minnesota Vikings 16 17.6 282 282 17.6 12 13 1 0 3 3 0 0 27 21 0 0

27 Carolina Panthers 16 16.9 270 270 16.9 7 19 0 0 2 0 0 0 28 24 1 0

28 Houston Texans 16 16.7 267 267 16.7 13 14 0 0 1 2 0 0 26 19 0 2

29 Miami Dolphins 16 16.2 260 260 16.2 7 16 0 0 2 1 0 0 22 26 0 2

30 Cleveland Browns 16 14.9 238 238 14.9 7 15 0 1 1 1 0 0 25 21 0 0

31 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 13.2 211 211 13.2 6 14 0 0 3 0 0 0 22 17 0 0

32 Oakland Raiders 16 10.5 168 168 10.5 5 7 0 0 2 2 0 0 16 18 1 0

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?arc...amp;Submit=Find
glad you brought the pwnage so I didn't have to. Let people keep talking trash while watching their teams finish below .500
:thumbup: Ignorance is bliss when it comes to most of these so called "sharks". It is fun to actually throw some facts out there that completely contradict their hateful bias.
 
I like IND v. NO better, personally.
None of them can play defense....pass. I will take 2 teams that can play O and D.
Shoot outs always make for more compelling and great games, whether right or wrong, it's how the overall football audience wants it. Very American indeed (larger strike zone, juiced ball, juiced players in baseball.... allowing Michael Jordan to take 4 steps from the top of the key, the absence of the traveling or palming call in basketball, ...etc...). Football rules have evovled to benefit the offense far more than defense for a reason, and it aint' safety. The list of greatest games doesn't include to many 13-10 matches.
 

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