Bears vs Raiders - Week 5 (1 Viewer)

[dickey moe]

Great leap by Jacobs.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Could we please -- PLEASE -- cover Robinson out there? 

 

[Chaka]

You are not wrong about the Raiders needing to put effort in consistently on all 4 Qs. You are also not wrong that we could use some more dynamicism and not be too predictable in play calling. 

But I don't think it's fair to use bad playcalling as blanket excuse without bothering to watch the play to determine if that's the issue or not, or using "bad playcalling" as a blanket excuse when the apparent issue in this game by far is discipline and turnovers, which has nothing to do with the plays being sent in.

We should be up by 10 points -- should have had a FG in our first drive (penalty moved us out of range) and TD that got punched out for the turnover at the 1 yard line as we were driving to score. Had nothing to do with bad playcalling.

And yes, the fumble and turnovers are exactly the cause in momentum change. Not the playcalling. The Raiders not holding their fire and fight when they need to is preventing us from getting it back. Not the playcalling.

You are absolutely right that I'm oversimplifying, and I am loving the heart and play calling this drive, but Gruden is playing a conservative, and stubborn style of football that is far more reminiscent of Norv Turner and Marty Schottenheimer (I'm decision making and adjustments, not necessarily play calling) that simply does not win in the long run.

TOUCHDOWN!!!

If you have talent you can win a lot of games with that style but you simply need to be more dynamic to take it to the next level and Gruden/Guenther haven't shown that yet...Bears driving with 1:30 left down but 3 with 2 TOs.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

YEEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Chadstroma]

No F'ing BS roughing the passer this time!!!

 

[Chaka]

PICK!!!

Doesn't change anything I have said FTR.

 

[McJose]

Well piss up a rope

 

[dickey moe]

What a duck.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

The Bears still something something

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

You are absolutely right that I'm oversimplifying, and I am loving the heart and play calling this drive, but Gruden is playing a conservative, and stubborn style of football that is far more reminiscent of Norv Turner and Marty Schottenheimer (I'm decision making and adjustments, not necessarily play calling) that simply does not win in the long run.

TOUCHDOWN!!!

If you have talent you can win a lot of games with that style but you simply need to be more dynamic to take it to the next level and Gruden/Guenther haven't shown that yet...Bears driving with 1:30 left down but 3 with 2 TOs.

You are right in general.

You are dead wrong in this game.

I'd 100% argue that playcalling won this game -- the fake FG, the PA misdirection, some perfect -- and very non-conventional, non-conservative calls -- made this game what it was.

 

[Chaka]

Bartender just commented "The Bears out-Raidered the Raiders."

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Bartender just called commented "The Bears out-Raidered the Raiders."

The game ain’t over yet

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Bears would rather miss the playoffs than sign Kaepernick.

 

[Chadstroma]

Game. 

Should have been a complete blowout. The Bears did next to nothing this game. If not for one big mistake a few penalties, this game wouldn't have been close. 

 

[Staley Da Bear]

 

[Chadstroma]

Bears would rather miss the playoffs than sign Kaepernick.

My gawd, give that crap up. Kaep sucked when he was playing and now he has been out of the NFL for how many years?! Seriously. Give it up.

 

[Chadstroma]

Don't need to go through it if you can go over it.

Yea, but would like that option. 

 

[Chaka]

You are right in general.

You are dead wrong in this game.

I'd 100% argue that playcalling won this game -- the fake FG, the PA misdirection, some perfect -- and very non-conventional, non-conservative calls -- made this game what it was.

Did I miss a fake FG or did you mean the punt? Which I absolutely agree about. We need more of that aggression. It was one great call an multiple misses.

The game should have never been this close after half. You can put that on Carr's horrible pitch to Jacobs but it has been far to consistent to convince me it is anything other that coaching. Gruden has the mind but he has to go full Andy Reid, be more confident and just say "What the ####!" (Ala Risky Business) far more often.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Did I miss a fake FG or did you mean the punt? Which I absolutely agree about. We need more of that aggression. It was one great call an multiple misses.

The game should have never been this close after half. You can put that on Carr's horrible pitch to Jacobs but it has been far to consistent to convince me it is anything other that coaching. Gruden has the mind but he has to go full Andy Reid, be more confident and just say "What the ####!" (Ala Risky Business) far more often.

Yes, meant the punt, of course. Not used to winning this kind of game so you'll excuse my giddiness getting in the way of clarity.

And dude -- enjoy the win. We're 3-2, dominated -- physically and outgamed -- the best D in the NFL and all with a rag tag bunch of 2nd and 3rd (hell, 4th for the WR corps) string guys.

We have the bye, we'll heal up and maybe we even get Gabe back after the break to help with our tough middle schedule.

If you can't be happy for this team doing what it's doing now, would argue that you'll never be happy with this team. 

 

[Chaka]

Thrilled with the win, hope it is a sign of things to come. Would never have called 3-2 going into the bye even with Antonio, so it's all good.

But I want to see Gruden be more consistently aggressive before I get excited about this season.

 

[Chadstroma]

That is not only a win but also a higher 1st round pick too!

 

[DocHolliday]

That is not only a win but also a higher 1st round pick too!

Now we are talking.  

Only caught highlights but this team plays hard.  Some really dumb mistakes kept the game close but playing hard for 60 minutes is half the battle.